2012.02.13 07:00 - Fragments of Sound Jewels, Rose Petals and Lotus Blossoms

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.

     


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    Sunshine Vayandar: hi ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oooh :)) Hi Sunshine
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: pleasure to see you
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: you too ;)Sunshine Vayandar: how is the Monday
    Eliza Madrigal: Thus far, the Monday is quite fine, thanks

    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey there you two
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi yaku
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Yaku ;)

    Eliza Madrigal: How is the Monday for you both?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: when did zen give up this slot btw ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: pretty well, but drinking cold coffee which i forgot before work :P
    Eliza Madrigal: He has Wednesday now, generous Zen
    Sunshine Vayandar: Monday is ok already 5pm here


    Sunshine Vayandar: I am listening to Moshang - you know him?
    Sunshine Vayandar: sl artist
    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, I don't...
    Eliza Madrigal: do you have a sharable sample of his music?
    Sunshine Vayandar: he is doing chinese chill music
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol
    Sunshine Vayandar: one sec yes
    Eliza Madrigal: Chinese Chill... hm, an SL specific genre?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: is it this one ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.youtube.com/user/MoShang/featured
    Eliza Madrigal: cold coffee is better with an ice cube maybe Yaku :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: http://moshang.net/soundjeweler_blog/
    Sunshine Vayandar: his web
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ah let me see ;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: but i see snow outside, not really in the mood for something colder :)
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, awesome description:

    MoShang is a sound jeweler living in Taiwan. He collects rough audio diamonds from the streets of Taiwan (be they overheard conversations, street-ads blared from the ubiquitous blue-trucks, street processions or funeral chants) and fuses them with traditional Chinese instruments and laid-back beats to create a unique blend of downtempo electronica he likes to call Chinese Chill.

    Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;))
    Eliza Madrigal: (from the you tube channel)
    Sunshine Vayandar: he is fantastic
    Eliza Madrigal: sound jeweler
    Sunshine Vayandar: and he plays in SL too
    Sunshine Vayandar: what a great expression
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm... nice ear
    Sunshine Vayandar: his SL group is : Chinese chill appreciation club
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: in my list of groups
    Eliza Madrigal: K....looking....
    Sunshine Vayandar: you can download a lot of his music free
    Sunshine Vayandar: from his site
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, Sun
    Sunshine Vayandar: he fuses all kinds of things
    Sunshine Vayandar: from all over the world
    Sunshine Vayandar: into his vibes
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Sunshine Vayandar: I downloaded a piece where someone sings in spanish
    Eliza Madrigal: nice when someone has a talent to blend everything while keeping distinction
    Sunshine Vayandar: so it's cold Yaku
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes Liz ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: he is talented guy
    Eliza Madrigal waves hello to observrm :)


    Eliza Madrigal: It would actually be nice for Zen to stop by... as I've been reading Dogen and have questions about "Igi"
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Obs ;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello multi and obs
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi multi ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Multi
    Eliza Madrigal: About Igi (love introducing new [to some] vocab):

    In his practice instructions Dogen emphasizes dignified, upright posture or manner. He particularly discusses this in his 1241 essay Gyobutsi Igi, "The Awesome (or Dignified) Presence of Active (or Practicing) Buddhas." But in this essay Dogen also points to the support of the dharmadhatu, or buddha field, "What allows one corner of a buddha's dignified presence is the entire universe, the entire earth, as well as the entirety of birth and death, coming and going, of innumerable lands, and lotus blossoms."[xxiii] Dignified presence is not accomplished through the strength of self-power or personal efforts.

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    Multiverse1 Resident: hmm, bit laggy for me
    Eliza Madrigal: there is a jive to this too :))
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: one can sort of feel the giving up and letting the gems of the universe shine themselves
    Eliza Madrigal: So what comes to mind to discuss today?
    Sunshine Vayandar: hmm ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: not sure ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: Yaku any ideas
    Eliza Madrigal: yesterday's topic was "setting boundaries"
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: I am still getting into the PaB mood ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: but a good question was asked.... does a focus of setting protective boundaries jive with exploring "no self"? :)


    --BELL--


    Multiverse1 Resident: for me framentation of my boundaries, and all the pices as part of my "whole" or piece of being me. Kind of grabbing them out of the (air) as they are flying in every direction. Pulling them back in , then examining what they were.
    Eliza Madrigal: (not that no-self exploration is necessarily what PaB is all about)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes yaku?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: nothing sensful :)
    Eliza Madrigal doubts that :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Eliza Madrigal: that's interesting Multi
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zen :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Zenji ;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey zenji
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, and are they part of the boundary
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hi zen
    Eliza Madrigal: the fragments are part of the boundary?
    Zen Arado: Hi all :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, the boundary becomes irregular
    Multiverse1 Resident: not defined as such
    Multiverse1 Resident: not like a fence or wall
    Eliza Madrigal: so they may change from context to context?
    Eliza Madrigal: company to company?
    Multiverse1 Resident: no self
    Alfred Kelberry: hi :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Boxy :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hi boxy


    Multiverse1 Resident: can you be another self?
    Sunshine Vayandar: meep!
    Eliza Madrigal: /wakaon
    Zen Arado: Hi boxy
    Alfred Kelberry: music session - sun is here! :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh.... good question Mutli


    Multiverse1 Resident: we all have many parts which make up our entities
    Multiverse1 Resident: heart, feet, head
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Multiverse1 Resident: do we have the same in, "self"
    Alfred Kelberry: mult, you mean roles? yes
    Multiverse1 Resident: no, not at all
    Zen Arado: if you decide to define them that way
    Zen Arado: but all one really?
    Eliza Madrigal: free fragments which play up into wholeness
    Zen Arado: we do the fragmenting
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, and gathering them from the past to see what they entail
    Zen Arado: reality is a seamless whole
    Multiverse1 Resident: exactly Zen
    Zen Arado: (nondual perspective)
    Zen Arado: useful to do it
    Multiverse1 Resident: singularity, hmm, more thinking of how many"wholes" make us whole

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    Eliza Madrigal: "Igi" has relevance here too.... as described as an alive dignified buddha presence... a kind of stability that allows for many forms... perhaps even Chinese Chill ;-)
    Zen Arado: we love tinking and wondering
    Zen Arado: Igi?
    Zen Arado: what's that?
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, familiar? a Dogen word
    Multiverse1 Resident: non-duality, the whole, but each to ourseelves as we change
    Eliza Madrigal: we are in a continual exchange with one another
    Zen Arado: interdependence
    Multiverse1 Resident: and ourselves
    Zen Arado: with everything
    Eliza Madrigal: but on the whole we aren't doing anything ... but dancing is dancing and grass is grassing...?
    Multiverse1 Resident: yep


    Zen Arado: an inexplicable dance
    Zen Arado: that we try to explain :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: but the grass may stick to our toes as we dance, though we may not see it.

     

    Eliza Madrigal turns up volume just in case Boxy and Sun let playing play....hehe....
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: laughing laughs
    Zen Arado: dancing dances
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: playing plays out
    Zen Arado: singing songs

    Alfred Kelberry: onigokko
    Alfred Kelberry: stop

    Multiverse1 Resident: on the fast track today , Alf
    Zen Arado: onigokkoing onigokko
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
    Eliza Madrigal: I wrote an early Valentine for PaB....
    Eliza Madrigal: tomorrow is our anniversary, PaB and Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: anniversary?

    --BELL--

    Eliza Madrigal: yes... 3 years
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Samúð :)

    Multiverse1 Resident: kind of what I was saying earlier about taking the fragments back in, and looking at the directions they came from, and where they will go afterwards. And to grasp them for an instant to examine them from nowhere, and yet they are (were) there.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sam
    Alfred Kelberry: congrats, eliza :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Multiverse1 Resident: Hiya ooOoo
    Eliza Madrigal: so let the fragments play Multi?
    Zen Arado: Hi Sam :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi ooOoo
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Multiverse1 Resident: well, yes, but to look at each step of the dance
    Eliza Madrigal: doesn't that interrupt the dance?
    Multiverse1 Resident: no, just slows it down, relativly
    Zen Arado: that's part of the dance


    Eliza Madrigal: slow... like yaku and boxy... turning turning turning....
    Multiverse1 Resident: like boxy flying around earlier, but now it's in slow motion
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice, Zen
    Multiverse1 Resident: each step is the same, but seen differently
    Eliza Madrigal: by whom?
    Zen Arado: different perspecives
    Multiverse1 Resident: then the steps make up the dance, by each of us, in our own view, of course, in mine at least
    Zen Arado: all unique
    Eliza Madrigal: each gem shining :)
    Zen Arado: unique individuals with different viewpoint
    Zen Arado: s
    Zen Arado: but all part of same reality
    Eliza Madrigal: :)


    Multiverse1 Resident: the timing of the steps, are the dance, and the dancers intent, hopefully, becomes known
    Eliza Madrigal: time presents
    Multiverse1 Resident: only to imagine anothers view
    Zen Arado: nonduality perspective isn't popular I am realising
    Eliza Madrigal: still listening btw, to : http://bit.ly/zdkyFt ... he is described as a "sound jeweler" who gathers from all over as he goes about
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Zen Arado: people seem to want to be on a path going somewhere
    Eliza Madrigal: actually Zen it may be that the word is cold?
    Eliza Madrigal: non-duality?
    Eliza Madrigal: doesn't sound very fun
    Zen Arado: cold?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... what it points to is wonderful maybe...
    Multiverse1 Resident: sounds warm and fuzzy to this entity
    Zen Arado: but present reality is a wondrous vibrant dance
    Eliza Madrigal: do many people think that duality is what is holding back paradise?
    Zen Arado: better than fuzzy dreams
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Multiverse1 Resident: inner struggles?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, not arguing with what it means but with how presented


    Eliza Madrigal: what do others think?
    Multiverse1 Resident: or observed
    Multiverse1 Resident: boxy's floating"away"
    Eliza Madrigal: :) slip sliding away
    Zen Arado: dualistic thinking maybe
    Multiverse1 Resident: say more zen
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Zen Arado: separating a self for a start
    Multiverse1 Resident: in 2 pieces?
    Zen Arado: or making a place we have to seek for always in the future
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, the illusive "out there"
    Zen Arado: never here right now


    --BELL--


    Eliza Madrigal: "some day my prince will come" ;-)
    Multiverse1 Resident: I see the future as the past, in a different tyme. An illusion of our here and now. Or our hopes? for some.
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks Boxy :)
    Zen Arado: neither exists
    Multiverse1 Resident: yep
    Alfred Kelberry: huh?
    Multiverse1 Resident: our own inventions
    Eliza Madrigal: :) you pause the ribbon, so polite
    Zen Arado: only now exists
    Alfred Kelberry: oh :)
    Alfred Kelberry: not me. the ribbon does it on its own :)
    Zen Arado: don't we love strategies and techniques?
    Eliza Madrigal: impressive
    Multiverse1 Resident: is that, non-duallity, zen?
    Zen Arado: non duality is aother label
    Multiverse1 Resident: oh, ok
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: just trying to pin it to the ground
    Zen Arado: no non duality in non duality :)
    Zen Arado: don't think you can
    Eliza Madrigal: what other words would point to the same sense of wholeness Zen?
    Zen Arado: but we sure try :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: the ground moves, much too fast.
    Zen Arado: ah maybe just experience it and stop loking for words
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: I think the session has been interesting, the way it has jumped around yet stayed in the same place
    Multiverse1 Resident: like boxys view
    Zen Arado: actually Darryl Bailey talks about that this month
    Eliza Madrigal: the session itself participates too
    Zen Arado: http://darrylbailey.net/questions-answered/
    Multiverse1 Resident: thx zen
    Zen Arado: maybe I prefer looking for a nice shiny enlightenment nirvana experience
    Zen Arado: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: shine on you crazy diamond
    Zen Arado: where I can be blissful and happy all the time :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: pink floyd, for those whom it may be a strange saying
    Zen Arado: Sid Barrett had an unhappy end
    Multiverse1 Resident: in sleep? no


    Eliza Madrigal: Have been reading someone who says that there is the unity place (nonduality perhaps) which is a near enemy to letting go
    Zen Arado: hmmm like many famous singers
    Zen Arado: sleep is either dreams or nothing to me
    Multiverse1 Resident: the moment before it is grasped,for me.
    Multiverse1 Resident: yes, sleep, was a metaphor
    Eliza Madrigal: ::::: well we all shine on, like the moon and the stars and boxy's antlers.::::
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine this is pretty nice...
    Sunshine Vayandar: what is?
    Eliza Madrigal: the ribbon, have you tried?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: other problem is we don't direct our lives
    Zen Arado: but another time :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: I like the "word" ribbon, better than track
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: no it is interesting Zen
    Eliza Madrigal: that might be the opposite of a problem
    Alfred Kelberry: all aboard! :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: I was wondering what you mean
    Eliza Madrigal: someone grab oO0Oo :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: I wasi thinking of O's ribbon ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: oh :))

    Alfred Kelberry: yes, "ribbon" has a kind tone to it
    Multiverse1 Resident: we spin by the world, rather than it spinning by us.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i always sitt facing to the outside
    Eliza Madrigal: swirling around in 0's ribbon
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;) what was this ribbon born?
    Zen Arado: I'm an inside spinner
    Multiverse1 Resident: nice pace , this is.
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: the steps, and I don't even have to dance!
    Eliza Madrigal: Boxy made this only in the last few weeks
    Eliza Madrigal: a ribbon unfurling from future to present to past (a Dogen inspired way of describing time)
    Zen Arado: cyclic
    Multiverse1 Resident: perfect description
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    --BELL--


    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Alfred Kelberry: onigokko
    Multiverse1 Resident: we are the circle?
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: eeeeeeeeeeeeek
    Multiverse1 Resident: yeow
    Multiverse1 Resident: sensory overload!
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Alfred Kelberry: stop
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Eliza Madrigal: OM
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: shanti
    Zen Arado: dizzy
    Eliza Madrigal: shanti shanti
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: model of the moment
    Multiverse1 Resident: the pose
    Alfred Kelberry: rain! :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :::delights::::
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: mmm, love the sound of it
    Alfred Kelberry: so spring-like :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Zen Arado: raining again :)

    Eliza Madrigal: mmmm :::human kindness overflowing:::::
    Zen Arado: it's getting like Ireland
    Alfred Kelberry: zen, lucky you :)
    Zen Arado: I suppose
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Zen Arado: have to go
    Zen Arado: byee
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye zen, bye everyone
    Sunshine Vayandar: take care Zenji
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Zen :)
    oO0Oo Resident: 〜waves〜
    oO0Oo Resident: ☻/
    oO0Oo Resident: /▌
    oO0Oo Resident: / \ 
    Multiverse1 Resident: bye zen, be whole
    Eliza Madrigal: and bye Sam


    Multiverse1 Resident: darkness,hmm
    Multiverse1 Resident: got stuck behind the pillar an instant
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: haha
    Alfred Kelberry: pillar of worship? :)
    Multiverse1 Resident: no column of the pavillion
    Eliza Madrigal: that's a major obstacle
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Alfred Kelberry: hehe
    Alfred Kelberry: yes...
    Eliza Madrigal: :D
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)

    Alfred Kelberry: we need frequent rotation on executive positions

    Multiverse1 Resident: see you all, have a wonderful ribbon in tyme, all
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Mutli
    Eliza Madrigal: wow ...
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyeee
    Alfred Kelberry: rainbow!
    Alfred Kelberry: very fitting
    Eliza Madrigal: the sun is coming out
    Eliza Madrigal: and now there is a rainbow :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: yay
    Eliza Madrigal: "let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me"

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    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Alfred Kelberry: oh! have an idea...
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Sunshine Vayandar: what?
    Eliza Madrigal giggles that the rainbow is also rotating
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol
    Alfred Kelberry: sitara :)
    Eliza Madrigal: underground music
    Sunshine Vayandar: sun dancing to the raga
    Alfred Kelberry: wonderful
    Eliza Madrigal: the land of the dancing sun
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmmm
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: can't really fix the anim
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, let me test something...
    Sunshine Vayandar: underground it is
    Alfred Kelberry: don't freak out :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol
    Eliza Madrigal: uh oh
    Eliza Madrigal: :::freaks out:::::
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Alfred Kelberry: haha
    Sunshine Vayandar: freaks in and out
    Eliza Madrigal: hahaha

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    Eliza Madrigal: that is a true musician.... move the world and they keep playing
    Alfred Kelberry: ok, it was too low
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: wheeee


    --BELL--


    Alfred Kelberry: a bit more :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: where are we
    Sunshine Vayandar: yay I see
    Eliza Madrigal: but Sunshine really needs to be brought up higher :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: better now but sitar anim will not work
    Eliza Madrigal: hmmm
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: I still hear the music...
    Eliza Madrigal: MMMM
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes
    Sunshine Vayandar: the music goes on
    Eliza Madrigal: ***beautiful****
    Sunshine Vayandar: just not the anim
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: I made them yesterday
    Alfred Kelberry: hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: lovely
    Alfred Kelberry: something is ont right here
    Eliza Madrigal: just figuring that out?
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Bird :)
    Eliza Madrigal feels like the ferris wheel stopped
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes
    Eliza Madrigal: pretty effect Sunshine... the golden lightss
    Alfred Kelberry: doesn't go higher
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah
    Eliza Madrigal: http://bit.ly/AdzkJj , http://bit.ly/x558tN  <--sad song but pretty
    Sunshine Vayandar: checking

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    Eliza Madrigal: :) Boxy this was fun....
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you both
    Eliza Madrigal: so much
    Sunshine Vayandar: ty guys
    Sunshine Vayandar: Gassho _/|\_ 
    Eliza Madrigal gassho
    Alfred Kelberry: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: that was nice ty Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: this was lovely and unusual and profound in places and odd.... just right
    Eliza Madrigal: haaha
    Sunshine Vayandar: take care lil Boxy
    Eliza Madrigal: (((Boxy)))) bfn
    Sunshine Vayandar: meep!
    Eliza Madrigal: Meep Meep ;P :p:P :p :P

     

    Added later: Wondered where to post my little PaB Valentine and feel it is appropriate here, also to say *Thank You* to Storm for his beautiful gesture and point to the pavilion so others can share #happiness too. Feel very thankful. Everything is gonna be alright.  :)

     

    Happy accident
    or funny valentine,rose petals_005.png
    Take your pick.
     
    A heart-shaped invitation,
    Unfolded the space
    Between your screens
    your dreams,
    and mine.

    And we all fell,
    All in --
    Though not an in, 
    one climbs out of.

    Someone is laughing,
    Someone is singing,

    Songs of Enoughness
    from ten directions
    travel the angles of time.


    -Eliza

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