2012.02.21 07:00 - Brimming

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    No session was recorded so Eliza posted a snippet from an early session...


    Adams Rubble was taken with Pema's statement that we look to others for what we think we need and do not have
    Adams Rubble: If I said that correctly
    Pema Pera: most of those in the past who have truly seen have reported on pretty terrifying journeys to get to the point where they could really see clearly . . . but perhaps that is related to starting with too limited a view of religion and spiritual practices . . . .

    Pema Pera: Yes, we think we need others to provide us with something
    Pema Pera: so we treat others as providers, not freely as others to love and share openness with
    ..and the cost of seeing others as providers...
    Pema Pera: we plunder the Earth and frankly, subtly, we plunder our friends
    Pema Pera: and we plunder ourselves
    Pema Pera: in desperation

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ourselves?
    Pema Pera: until we learn to drop what we have

    Adams Rubble: We certainly limit ourselves
    Pema Pera: yes, we shortchange ourselves
    Pema Pera: a form of plundering
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.

    Pema Pera: view ourselves as too limited, unworthy, needy
    Pema Pera: 'cause we stare ourselves blind at what we have, forgetting to see what we are
    Pema Pera in an unusually serious mood :-)
    Geo Netizen: at least we bury ourselves
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Adams Rubble enjoying Pema's serious mood
    Adams Rubble: learning from it
    Pema Pera: brimstone!!
    Pema Pera: oh yea of little faith!!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ha!
    Udge Watanabe: :)

    Adams Rubble has heard brimstone and this isn't brimstone :)
    Pema Pera: it's brimming at least, I hope
    Adams Rubble not quaking yet
    Geo Netizen: looking at other as providers: as a source of gratification
    Pema Pera: yes
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Pema Pera: very hard to see that
    Pema Pera: but when you really see it, easy to drop or at least to relax the tendency


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