2012.02.27 01:00 - Would Mother Teresa be attached to the beds she puts her patients in?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Wester Kiranov. The comments are by Wester Kiranov.

    I sat with Raffila Millgrove, and we talked about losses and balloons.

    Wester Kiranov: hi raffila
    Raffila Millgrove admires the balloons and was sorry she had to miss the party.. had to go to wedding instead. did you go Wester?
    Wester Kiranov: no, i didn't. i'm not really the partying type
    Raffila Millgrove: oh. well it was special occasion.. like for family. i don't know too many, but even so. was sorry to miss it.
    Raffila Millgrove: the balloons look so good. with the logo on them!
    Wester Kiranov: they do look good, i admit
    Raffila Millgrove: oh they are copy!
    Raffila Millgrove wears the balloons in a belated cheering of four years.
    Wester Kiranov: nice!
    Raffila Millgrove: yes! wow .. they are a lot to hold onto. i hope i don't blow away into sky. tho that could be fun!
    Wester Kiranov: balloon rides are ususally fun :-)
    Raffila Millgrove: i never did that. did you do it Wester?
    Wester Kiranov: not in SL, but I did once in RL :-)
    Wester Kiranov: when my parents had been married 30 years
    Wester Kiranov: they took us on a balloon ride
    Wester Kiranov: it was fun, but my dad kept leaning out too far, so that was a bit scary
    Raffila Millgrove: omg how totally cool! what a wonderful idea!
    Raffila Millgrove: where was this?
    Wester Kiranov: in the Netherlands, near Utrecht
    Raffila Millgrove: ah.
    Wester Kiranov: and over 10 years ago
    Raffila Millgrove: that sky in HOlland. it is so.. intersting. i liked it.
    Raffila Millgrove: must have been fab.., to go up in it.. and look down.
    Wester Kiranov: the sky here is pretty famous, i guess
    Wester Kiranov: but you can't do a balloon ride when it is cloudy, too much turbulence
    Raffila Millgrove watches Wester fall over in the familiar afk position.
    Raffila Millgrove: oopsie. RAffi said afk and fell over herself.
    Raffila Millgrove: well. I think I will update the news on this inventory loss that crippled me last night.
    Raffila Millgrove: oh there you are.
    Wester Kiranov: sorry
    Raffila Millgrove: i am updating on the recorder.. what i decide regarding this HOrrible loss i took last night.
    Wester Kiranov: what happened?
    Raffila Millgrove: my inventory.. i lost a Main folder. hundreds of items. My entire collection of medical stuff. Five years of it. heart wrench. really staggered me.
    Raffila Millgrove: cause that is my identiry here. i am a dr.
    Raffila Millgrove: and last month.. i had to take my center down.. and so Everything.. was inside this folder.
    Wester Kiranov: oh no
    Raffila Millgrove: so. to lose this stuff. most of which is not replacable.. i cannot get another of it.. the creators are gone, they were also many strange and beuatiful freebie things from long ago.. well.. a big loss.
    Wester Kiranov: that must be awful
    Wester Kiranov: how did you lose it?
    Raffila Millgrove: i am not sure really.
    Raffila Millgrove: because i went to put something.. into the file., and it was Gone.
    Raffila Millgrove: and so i went immediately to this old SL mentor friend of mine.. to cover all possible remedy to recover it.
    Raffila Millgrove: which we did.
    Raffila Millgrove: so i think.. a. i crashed.. so much .. on this new viwer.. many odd things occur. that i don't know.. region? viewer? why am i crashing?
    Raffila Millgrove: b. i was doing huge huge inv cleanup.. and tho i am paranoid about checking trash before tossing. maybe I am the one accidentally deleted.
    Raffila Millgrove: one or the other.
    Raffila Millgrove: anyway. a monk named Moon was here last night. so when he heard about this.
    Raffila Millgrove: he went into his lecture on detachment.. which frankly was kind of illl-timed. lol
    Wester Kiranov: i have to admit i had to stop myself from saying something about detachment here
    Raffila Millgrove: well it's ok.. cause.. there is something to be said on the topic. but.
    Raffila Millgrove: if you are a dr. you do need tools.
    Wester Kiranov: because it feels like you're comforting someone by saying that, but actually at this moment it's just smug to talk about detachment
    Raffila Millgrove: you cannot be a dr. without your tools.. and therefore.. i would not really put detachment from objects.. into this category.
    Raffila Millgrove: if i say. to you. Well Mother Teresa should not be attached to the beds she puts her patients in.. i think you would get my point on that.
    Raffila Millgrove: not that i would ever be comparing myself with her.. but you know what i mean. you need your clinic if you want to help the sick.
    Wester Kiranov: yes, i know
    Raffila Millgrove: it's not like i lost all my shoes. who would care. that is nothing.
    Wester Kiranov: these thing happen, big and small losses
    Raffila Millgrove: anyho.. i did .. think on it. and decided that since i already resigned my position as medical director after four years. and removed my clinic as wel.. perhaps it was just a sign.. that I should really let it go.. losing the tools as well.
    Raffila Millgrove: i have seen many doctors retire. it is so hard on them. very very hard.
    Raffila Millgrove: but.. i think.. that is the case. Need to accept the retirement.
    Wester Kiranov: it's nice that you can take it that way
    Raffila Millgrove: so it's about "letting go". not of the objects.. not detaching from them.. but accepting a closure.
    Wester Kiranov: :-)
    Raffila Millgrove: well, thank you Wester for listen to all that.
    Raffila Millgrove: hehe.
    Raffila Millgrove: i appreciate that i could update on that.. since it was pretty blinking Huge sad thing for me.. here.
    Raffila Millgrove: and it will be ok now.
    Wester Kiranov: good
    Raffila Millgrove: i don't know you.. did you come to Pab long ago like the others?
    Wester Kiranov: i've been a member of PaB since 2008, i think
    Raffila Millgrove: yes. that was beginning. how has it been for you? you learned things? you practiced the nine seconds?
    Wester Kiranov: i sometime do the nine seconds, although not as much as i used to
    Raffila Millgrove: i was reading the book on Time by Pema. you read it?
    Wester Kiranov: do you mean exploring the magic?
    Raffila Millgrove: well he only has one book up on the web.. so maybe yes. i am bad in remembering titles.
    Wester Kiranov: this one? http://wiki.playasbeing.org/PaB_Books/Magic_of_Time
    Raffila Millgrove: yes.
    Raffila Millgrove decides to sit quietly with Wester for a few minutes since he is repeatedly faling over in "away" position.
    Wester Kiranov: i went to quite a few of the discussions about it
    Raffila Millgrove: ah. what was your "take" on it. was it interesting or helpful to you?
    Wester Kiranov: i found it very interesting
    Raffila Millgrove: did it fit your view? how or why not?
    Wester Kiranov: it was very much an exploration that fit all views
    Wester Kiranov: so there was room for different takes on the subject
    Raffila Millgrove: mm. a perceptive comment. thank you.
    Wester Kiranov: everyone was very curious about what the others had found, there were no "rights" and "wrongs"
    Raffila Millgrove nods.
    Wester Kiranov: i will have to leave at the hour, as hubby wants to use the computer
    Raffila Millgrove: that is a very much exploration then.. i word that you used.
    Raffila Millgrove: a word you used at first.
    Raffila Millgrove: where there are no right/wrong. and lots of "views"
    Raffila Millgrove: i too must run along.
    Wester Kiranov: that's what i like about PaB in general, the open character
    Raffila Millgrove: Thank you for sitting here with the balloons and sharing some time...
    Raffila Millgrove: we look very cute i think.. holding them!
    Wester Kiranov: thank you as well
    Raffila Millgrove: Hope you will have a great day! xo
    Wester Kiranov: bye

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