2012.02.27 07:00 - Opening Up Up Up

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal.


    oO0Oo Resident: hello Hello!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Hello Samúð :)
    Eliza Madrigal seeing Bleu's balloons near the arrival spot, what a nice idea


    oO0Oo Resident: Really! and I'm seeing these banners for the first time.. wonderful!
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Bleu, Samúð and I were just admiring the balloons and banners you placed about
    oO0Oo Resident: Hiya Bleu !
    oO0Oo Resident: yes.. beautiful!
    Bleu Oleander: hiya Eliza, Sam
    Bleu Oleander: not sure how long the WG wants them left up
    Bleu Oleander: plans still under discussion?
    Eliza Madrigal: nor I... but I suppose they continue... building toward Aprifl 1...
    Eliza Madrigal: Oops :) April 1
    Bleu Oleander: ah ok
    oO0Oo Resident: fun pronunciation :)
    Eliza Madrigal tries to pronounce that
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    oO0Oo Resident: gesundheit!
    Eliza Madrigal is all about direct exploration and "try and see" haha

    Eliza Madrigal: I like the quote you chose for the example too Bleu.... re poking holes in reality
    Bleu Oleander: yes, me too

    When you reread what you wrote a few days later you probably get a
    different perspective, but the main idea is to poke holes in our ideas
    of reality.
    Pema Pera

    Bleu Oleander: I like the idea of going back to read what you wrote also
    Bleu Oleander: a history of your thoughts
    Bleu Oleander: and a chance to have a conversation with yourself

    Eliza Madrigal: Have you noticed anything interesting about your own journey or what have you, that way?
    Bleu Oleander: yes definitely ... want to continue to read what I wrote
    Eliza Madrigal: seeing ourselves caught in action

    Bleu Oleander: find that I say more now than I used to ... :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: we're happy of that
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: no complaints here

    Eliza Madrigal: I find it interesting sometimes to read myself seeming to understand something that I may still find illusive this day :)
    Bleu Oleander: :) yes
    Eliza Madrigal: like to think that I may be less 'experiences' centered than I used to be... especially when reading my Chronicles interview :)
    Bleu Oleander: say more?
    Eliza Madrigal: well, hm.... that isn't easy ... I suppose I feel like I was after 'proofs' of a certain sort...
    oO0Oo Resident listens intently
    Bleu Oleander listens as well
    Eliza Madrigal: one seeks validation or acceptance... and I feel I latched onto things in a way that is less easy to now...
    Eliza Madrigal: keeps opening up


    Eliza Madrigal: trust of intuition, uniqueness of path
    Eliza Madrigal: and that of others within themselves
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: it's all good :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) yes
    oO0Oo Resident: not that I understood what you said mind you ;)
    Eliza Madrigal giggles

    Bleu Oleander: so in a way you're experiencing your intuition or feelings and trusting that you are "reading" it in a valid way?
    Bleu Oleander: as a source of knowledge?
    oO0Oo Resident: Or.. less attached to validation?
    Eliza Madrigal: indeed so ...
    Eliza Madrigal: it is easy when one feels they've been changed or helped in some way, to sort of set up shop
    Bleu Oleander: yes :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: http://imm.io/hrYJ
    Eliza Madrigal: clicks....
    Bleu Oleander: the reward is the sense of change or being helped?
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice, oO0Oo, thanks :)
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, thinks
    Bleu Oleander: nice pic Sam!


    Eliza Madrigal: It is the pervasive tendency I think... in our way of life... to think in terms of objects that are gotten and given
    Eliza Madrigal: exchange
    oO0Oo Resident: materialism?
    Eliza Madrigal: and it can be difficult to see that dreams and visions can be objects too
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Bleu Oleander: thoughts can be considered objects as well
    Eliza Madrigal: which they aren't, if they continue ... unfold... like in the wonderful boomerang video you sent, Samúð
    oO0Oo Resident: stark non-spaces, non-objects of most value..
    Eliza Madrigal: yes

    oO0Oo Resident: can understand the desire for acknowledgement, or validation of sorts.. while dropping the paradigm of exchange... space... floaty
    oO0Oo Resident: lonely
    oO0Oo Resident: or.. hmmm.. alone

    Bleu Oleander: what does it mean to drop the paradigm of exchange?
    oO0Oo Resident: bliss its own virtue/reward

    oO0Oo Resident: I don't want to infer upon what Eliza was intending.. but...
    oO0Oo Resident: to give up any hope for return/thanks/reward/acknowledgement when flowing forward with change and intention

    Bleu Oleander: hi Raffila
    oO0Oo Resident: hi Raff :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Raffila :) Would you like a note of the session so far?
    Raffila Millgrove: hi. (ty for cool balloons, bleu) sorry to interrupt you Sam.
    Raffila Millgrove: yes ty Eliza.
    Bleu Oleander: yw!
    Eliza Madrigal: sure one moment :)
    oO0Oo Resident: not interupting.. welcome


    Bleu Oleander: could life be considered the ultimate return when flowing forward with change and intention?

    Eliza Madrigal: that's really beautiful
    oO0Oo Resident: seems a life worth living.. and alive at that
    oO0Oo Resident: although
    oO0Oo Resident: have to really take the "worth" out in a sense
    oO0Oo Resident: living enough

    Eliza Madrigal: less fixed worth, wealth, validation... open
    Eliza Madrigal waves to observerm :)
    Bleu Oleander: is happiness a reward for living a life well lived?
    oO0Oo Resident: virtue its own reward?
    Eliza Madrigal: virtuous cyles

    oO0Oo Resident thinks of parents love for child...
    oO0Oo Resident: no thoughts of exchange maybe
    Bleu Oleander: virtue is action to me, like in Sam's video ... happiness is the feeling that comes from those actions
    oO0Oo Resident: the locus of the reciever seems to be like time.. not really pinned down
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    Bleu Oleander: so could you say that happiness is from someone's point of view, where ones' unique past experiences serve as a context?
    oO0Oo Resident: but as a moral tale.. it works to hint at the forwardness

    Eliza Madrigal: you know Buddhism is full of all these interesting distinctions... maybe why I've been so drawn there ... one of those is some idea that the 'gods realm' where one is totally happy or hm something... is less wonderful in a sense, than our human realm where we are touched by suffering ... so a deeper happiness being given opportunties for kindness....

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    Eliza Madrigal sees Sun arriving with rainbow particles flashing
    oO0Oo Resident: greater opportunities
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey everyone
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Yaku :)
    Raffila Millgrove greets Yaku

    oO0Oo Resident: Off topic, but wanted to reference this documentary on view of happiness (Epicurus), that I have mentioned in sessions before, but it has been some time, and seemed timely. A save for later one:

    Bleu Oleander: hiya Yaku
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Sun, Yaku :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Obs !
    Eliza Madrigal: ty
    Bleu Oleander: hi Sun :)
    Eliza Madrigal greets the sun
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;o)
    Sunshine Vayandar: I am rezzing
    Sunshine Vayandar: a bit ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: and flipping about... haha
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;) why waste time ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
    oO0Oo Resident: lol

    Eliza Madrigal: getting into party mood :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes I heard some particles are needed
    Sunshine Vayandar: but pls carry on ;)
    Bleu Oleander: such colorful flipping ... smiling
    oO0Oo Resident: particular party particle practioner needed

    Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine have you met Raffila? :::introduces::::
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: hi Rafilla ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: nice meeting you ;)


    oO0Oo Resident likes a man in a tux with iceskates
    Sunshine Vayandar: Hi Sam, Bleu Yaku
    Eliza Madrigal is now thinking of compiling a book of Bleu's questions :)
    Bleu Oleander: ha ha!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Bleu Oleander: big book!!!
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;) Liz
    Sunshine Vayandar: we will need megaprims
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
    Bleu Oleander: hehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: excuse me one moment, son home from school ill...
    Sunshine Vayandar: ohh ok Liz
    Bleu Oleander: aww, hope he feels better
    oO0Oo Resident: aww
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes I hope too
    Bleu Oleander: I must get to work ... enjoyed our conversation as always :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: not easy when kids are sick
    Bleu Oleander: take care all :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: take care Bleuji
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Bleu :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye bleu
    Raffila Millgrove: Bye
    Eliza Madrigal: ::::rushes::: Bye BLeu :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: alas :)

    Sunshine Vayandar: how is he feeling
    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for the well wishes... he must have eaten something disagreeable... and he is laughing because he is watching a very old vhs tape of chitty chitty bang bang, which has an actual intermission
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;o)
    oO0Oo Resident grins
    Sunshine Vayandar: what is chitty chitty bang bang
    Sunshine Vayandar: sounds like something I would like
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
    Eliza Madrigal: a film about a magical car :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: oh I didn't think it was about a car
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;))

    Eliza Madrigal: http://imdb.to/ziHUOd
    Sunshine Vayandar: ty ty ;)
    oO0Oo Resident: http://is.gd/cwc83A

    Sunshine Vayandar: A hapless inventor finally finds success with a flying car, which a dictator from a foreign government sets out to take for himself.
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
    Sunshine Vayandar: ty Sam ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Eliza Madrigal giggling... such innocence
    oO0Oo Resident: :) nice energy to heal with.. at home with nice mom :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: 1968
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: 19 old woke just now in footie pajamas, thrilled to go watch it too
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: happy day

    Sunshine Vayandar: *:• •:*.-:¦:- -:¦:-.•:*¨¨*:• YAYYY *:• •:*¨¨*:•.-:¦:- -:¦:-.¨¨*:•
    oO0Oo Resident: that's it! Everyone over to Eliza's...!
    Sunshine Vayandar: ohh happy dayyy
    Sunshine Vayandar: ok I go pack
    oO0Oo Resident makes popcorn!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;) I bring bananas
    Eliza Madrigal: aside from the stomach ache... yes... I'll run for ice cream
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;D
    Raffila Millgrove is hungry and wonders what is fo breakfast at Eliza's.
    Sunshine Vayandar: pop corn and bananas
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm makings of french toast perhaps...
    Eliza Madrigal: long line of vhs tapes....
    Sunshine Vayandar: and french toast
    Raffila Millgrove: oh. ice cream and popcorn with bananas. sounds good!
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes ;p

    Sunshine Vayandar: I am already above Mali ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, what progress
    Sunshine Vayandar: with the bananas
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: sigh :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx sam
    Yakuzza Lethecus: is it salted or sugared popcorn ?
    Eliza Madrigal: ty oO0Oo :::munches:::::

    Raffila Millgrove: gee this is good popcorn. i don't have any as nice as this. very buttery.
    Sunshine Vayandar: hmm ty ;))
    oO0Oo Resident: Now if only we all had footie pajamas

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    Raffila Millgrove ties the balloon string around her wrist so she won't let go of it with the buttery fingers.
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Sunshine Vayandar tied balloon to the corner of the pillow
    Raffila Millgrove: balloons were so pricey when i was little. my mom always tied it on my wrist.
    Eliza Madrigal: what generous popcorn, gets to bottom and asks to give more
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes very kind pop corn
    Raffila Millgrove: you would buy at parade.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: a bit heavy for breakfast tho :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;o)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Yaku
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)


    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Raffila Millgrove nibbles daintily on the banana.
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
    Sunshine Vayandar: no shortage of food
    oO0Oo Resident: rofl
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Sunshine Vayandar: no more hungry hungarians present
    Eliza Madrigal: remembering that, when a balloon was a rare deal :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ops sorry bell ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Mrawwwww...
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol
    oO0Oo Resident: @@
    Sunshine Vayandar: Liz is not happy about something
    oO0Oo Resident: me carves steak with banana
    Eliza Madrigal: hahahaha
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    oO0Oo Resident: grrrr

    Eliza Madrigal: laughing.... amazing how quickly I unraveled our deep topic... heheh
    oO0Oo Resident: Hope this ritual is helping your son E
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;p
    Sunshine Vayandar: hehe
    Yakuzza Lethecus: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) my giggling is helping I'm sure
    Eliza Madrigal: lightness abounds
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;))
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: giggles
    Sunshine Vayandar laughs
    Yakuzza Lethecus: *smiles*
    oO0Oo Resident wishes for the temporarily chokes on food gesture
    Sunshine Vayandar: giggles
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol ty Liz
    Sunshine Vayandar: it migth be my fault .....that all went silly
    Sunshine Vayandar apologises
    Eliza Madrigal: nope :)))
    Yakuzza Lethecus giggles
    Yakuzza Lethecus: giggles

    Sunshine Vayandar: I usually have this effect ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: so not only me - thank god
    Eliza Madrigal: infusing everything celebration
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: thx for the happiness vid sam, just finished
    Eliza Madrigal: deep topic in itself
    Sunshine Vayandar: loved all the happy art yesterday
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes

    oO0Oo Resident: bananas, steak, popcorn, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.. and Baby giggles. Just another Monday at PaB ::yawns::
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol
    Sunshine Vayandar yawns too
    Eliza Madrigal: so glad you made it Sun
    Sunshine Vayandar: yes I was preparing all day to come
    Sunshine Vayandar: then suddenly I had to watch my daughter
    Sunshine Vayandar: I think she fell asleep on a leaf
    Eliza Madrigal: aw
    Sunshine Vayandar: in Perfect Paradise

    Eliza Madrigal: :) I've seen her stop by a few times here....
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Sunshine Vayandar: really
    Eliza Madrigal: but once at the end of a session...
    Eliza Madrigal: will she give a concert soon?
    Sunshine Vayandar: I hope so
    Sunshine Vayandar: I got a stage for her ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: (amazed by the hearty appetites here, fearful of making breakfast)
    Sunshine Vayandar: fearful?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: I am still busy with my meat

    oO0Oo Resident: may I quote you Sun?
    Sunshine Vayandar: me?
    Raffila Millgrove: lol
    Sunshine Vayandar: lol yes
    Sunshine Vayandar: I give you permission ;D
    oO0Oo Resident giggles
    Sunshine Vayandar: :D

    Eliza Madrigal: this has been fun, thanks so much :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ty Liz
    oO0Oo Resident: ty!
    Sunshine Vayandar: I hope your son will be better quick
    Raffila Millgrove: it was. So cheering. ty.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: it´s real dinnertime in germany now, stay happy everyone :)
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)) nice to meet you Raffila
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Raffila Millgrove: bye Yaku
    Sunshine Vayandar: love your name
    Sunshine Vayandar: ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Be happy Yaku
    Raffila Millgrove: NIce to meet you too Sun.
    Sunshine Vayandar: byebyeee all
    Sunshine Vayandar: back to PP ;)
    Eliza Madrigal: Be Happy Sunshine :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    oO0Oo Resident: 〜waves〜
    oO0Oo Resident: ☻/
    oO0Oo Resident: /▌
    oO0Oo Resident: / \
    Sunshine Vayandar: you all too
    Eliza Madrigal: Be Happy Raffila, oO0Oo :)

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