2012.04.01 19:00 - Moments, Joined by a Thread

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Lucinda Lavender: whispering hello
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening, CInda
    Lucinda Lavender: good evening
    Lucinda Lavender: cal
    Calvino Rabeni: how has your weekend been?
    Lucinda Lavender: pretty busy..
    Lucinda Lavender: reheasal yesterday with friends for lunch...then watched Tin Tin...then concert today
    Lucinda Lavender: Easter oratorio by Bach
    Lucinda Lavender: less rain than I thought...during the gardening hours
    Lucinda Lavender: and you?
    Calvino Rabeni: I can imagine that, except Tin Tin .. has he escaped from the book somehow ?
    Lucinda Lavender: he is in a movie now!
    Lucinda Lavender: with Captain Haddock
    Calvino Rabeni: Well ! that's great
    Calvino Rabeni: how was it done?
    Lucinda Lavender: and Snowy, the Thompson Twins
    Lucinda Lavender: through the wonder of animation aI think
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: the dog huh
    Lucinda Lavender: yes:)
    Lucinda Lavender: love snowy...
    Calvino Rabeni: gotta have him as the trusty sidekick
    Lucinda Lavender: what a wonderful name...
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm thinking of an old movie that had a dog character
    Lucinda Lavender: ...swas it Lassie?
    Lucinda Lavender: probably something else...
    Calvino Rabeni: Asta
    Lucinda Lavender: Oh Love Asta...
    Lucinda Lavender: from the Thin Man Moviews
    Calvino Rabeni:

    The Thin Man is a 1934 American comic detective film starring William Powell and Myrna Loy as Nick and Nora Charles, a flirtatious married couple who banter wittily as they solve crimes with ease. Nick is a hard-drinking retired detective and Nora a wealthy heiress. Their dog, the wire-haired fox terrier Asta, played by Skippy, was also a popular character.

    Lucinda Lavender: movies
    Calvino Rabeni: yes that one :)
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: We watched those movies once upon a time
    Calvino Rabeni: Before my time :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Thanks to video stores
    Calvino Rabeni: but I like the combination of style and detective and comedy
    Lucinda Lavender: me too!
    Lucinda Lavender: great entertainment
    Lucinda Lavender: I have been reading some Lord Peter Wimsey mysteries
    Lucinda Lavender: same sort of thing
    Lucinda Lavender: by Jill Paton Walsch
    Paradise Tennant: hiya luci cal :) gtsy :)
    Lucinda Lavender: extends the work of Dorathy Sayers
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Para :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles all round and listens
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Paradise:)
    Calvino Rabeni: Happy PaB anniversary to both of you :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Yes!! happy day of remembering
    Calvino Rabeni: PaB turns four ... four is a great age for human children too, isn't it
    Lucinda Lavender: Yes:))
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at luci :)
    Lucinda Lavender: much growth then
    Lucinda Lavender: more undersrtanding
    Calvino Rabeni: a lot of sociality
    Lucinda Lavender: getting ready for five
    Calvino Rabeni: and innocence
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: that's the charm of it at that age, the combination of those two things
    Paradise Tennant: and the energy !
    Calvino Rabeni: Having mastered not just hearing stories, but telling them too:)
    Lucinda Lavender: sociality. innocence and energy
    Paradise Tennant: hiya san
    Calvino Rabeni: nods

    Lucinda Lavender: Hi San:)
    Santoshima Resident: hello
    Lucinda Lavender: after the pause Luci is wondering what is getting planted in gardens that anyone knows of...
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Calvino Rabeni: Had the first harvest of fresh broccoli
    Lucinda Lavender: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: mine all are container ones .. so lavender rosemary .. but .. mostly an all year round thing :)
    Paradise Tennant: lucky you cal
    Lucinda Lavender: nodding
    Calvino Rabeni: onions are still indoors
    Lucinda Lavender: we went ahead and put ours out:)
    Paradise Tennant: may try parsley
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: the brussel sprouts are incredibly tough .. weathered the frozen week or two over the winter just fine
    Paradise Tennant: dog seems to like it and it is very good for your eyes
    Lucinda Lavender: ^)^
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Santo :)
    Paradise Tennant: like brussel sprouts
    Santoshima Resident: hi Cal :)
    Lucinda Lavender: love the sprouts
    Lucinda Lavender: brb...
    Paradise Tennant: have a great recipe by lucy waverman for them grated ..
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.cook-book.com/recipes/shredded_brussel_sprouts.html
    Paradise Tennant: smiles the internet is a wonderful thing !
    Calvino Rabeni: It's getting hard to remember life before Google
    Calvino Rabeni: (sigh ..?)
    Paradise Tennant: yes kind of like having a really huge brain at your finger tips
    Lucinda Lavender: Yummm!
    Calvino Rabeni: Yumm, recipe tasted good eh? :)
    Paradise Tennant: what is everyone reading right now :) yes it is realy lovely a nice dish
    Paradise Tennant: eh :)
    Lucinda Lavender: At my school we call it...Mr. Google...
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Lucinda Lavender: Go ask Mr. google
    Calvino Rabeni: liking the Prosciutto , not sure about the pine cone seeds :)
    Lucinda Lavender: but Ms would be fine with me...
    Lucinda Lavender: as well
    Paradise Tennant: hmm toasted they are rally tasty
    Paradise Tennant: really
    Lucinda Lavender: pine nut ...
    Calvino Rabeni: I have a need for a recipe that uses a lot of sesame seeds
    Paradise Tennant: that sounds good too
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Santoshima Resident: sesame seeds, and honey ... mix to a paste ... add a few almonds
    Santoshima Resident: enjoy
    Calvino Rabeni: with the right grinder ? then somethng like halvah
    Santoshima Resident: that's about the complexity of my cooking these days
    Santoshima Resident: no don't grind at all
    Paradise Tennant: this is one of my fav recipes of hers always make it if I have a crowd in the winter very yummy
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.somesmiths.com/Recipes/Vegetable/Potato%20gratin%20w%20onion%20a%20goat%20cheese.pdf
    Paradise Tennant: potatoes goat cheese and cream with lots of chopped herbs
    Calvino Rabeni: almonds are a good breakfast food, according to the science news column I get every morning
    Paradise Tennant: comfort food
    Calvino Rabeni: that sounds good
    Calvino Rabeni: did you ask "what's on your reading list?" ?
    Santoshima Resident: ?
    Lucinda Lavender: I am reading...Thrones ,Dominations by Jill Paton Walsh
    Calvino Rabeni: Lord Peter Wimsey?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: I like mysteries when I am not reading non fiction
    Paradise Tennant: right now I am drinking cococa unsweetened undutched ghirardelli with soy milk and cayenne pepper .. pretty tasty chocolate with a bit of a burn
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Paradise Tennant: hmm googles it
    Calvino Rabeni: I've been reading "The Complete Brothers Grimm Fairy Tales", and also a book on story / drama / screenplay writing
    Calvino Rabeni: Plus one on ethics
    Santoshima Resident: good stuff

    Santoshima Resident: i am reading the last days of socrates
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/132671.Thrones_and_Dominations
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.amazon.com/The-Last-Days-Socrates-Euthyphro/dp/014044582X
    Paradise Tennant: he had a sad life at the end I think
    Paradise Tennant: but such a fine thinker like buddha in a way he made great progress just thinking
    Paradise Tennant: oh sorry bell
    Calvino Rabeni: This philosopher, Alain de Botton, came to town.
    Calvino Rabeni: Actually I didn't go ... too cheap to pay the admission, but I did start video surfing
    Calvino Rabeni: He started a school in London, the School of Life
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: about using everyday life as the setting for education
    Calvino Rabeni: rather than using abstract categories
    Calvino Rabeni: It's a little counter-culture
    Calvino Rabeni: For instance one of the Sunday Sermons was in praise of "Obliquity"
    Calvino Rabeni: Being indirect
    Paradise Tennant: helllo stev you are vision in pink :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello, thanks
    stevenaia Michinaga: the quiet after the party?
    Santoshima Resident: it would seem so
    Lucinda Lavender: perhaps so...the quiet arter the concert too
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.alaindebotton.com/cv.asp
    Calvino Rabeni: The School of Life's videos are at http://vimeo.com/theschooloflife/videos
    Paradise Tennant: looks interesting I love .. the profoundness of the everyday :)
    Calvino Rabeni: yes !
    Lucinda Lavender: sounds interesting
    Paradise Tennant: was thinking I have my chores done .. the sheets are in the dryer .. the floors are washed the dogs meals for tomorrw are bubbling in the crock pot there is cosyness to some moments in the day that make them very dear
    Paradise Tennant: kind of an essence
    Calvino Rabeni: Having done those things opens a space in which the essence may be seen
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...for me it is the concert done, the floors swept, the laundry done, dinner being heated on the stove...not too different
    Paradise Tennant: the small pleasures the morning coffee .. watching the city wake up tonight watching the sun set in a beautiful wash of foggy blue that was wprthy of renoir ..
    Calvino Rabeni: Cleaned kitchen, made bed, vaccumed carpet, lit candle, time of about 11pm
    Paradise Tennant: thinks back on Luci's concert schedule and wonders which one this was
    Paradise Tennant: smiles I have a duvet which is well worth the investment you don't really have to make your bed a brillant idea
    Lucinda Lavender: easter oratorio by bach with Der rosenkavalier and
    Lucinda Lavender: sibelius val triste

    Paradise Tennant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az7WSBW8WeY
    Lucinda Lavender: everything was in 3:4 time:)
    Lucinda Lavender: amazing flute work
    Paradise Tennant: smiles yes listening beautiful
    stevenaia Michinaga: nothing loading tonight
    stevenaia Michinaga: :(
    Lucinda Lavender: it was interesting watching the flutist and the soprano soloist...brading back and forth
    Lucinda Lavender: trading
    Paradise Tennant: funny read that for braiding :) which works too :)
    Santoshima Resident: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...it does
    Lucinda Lavender: what were the other dear moments of the day...Luci wonders
    Santoshima Resident: light through the day, so beautyiful
    Santoshima Resident: certain golden
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at san yes there is so much beauty in light ;)
    Calvino Rabeni: that's a great question, Cinda
    Santoshima Resident: i can barely string a sentence together about it
    Lucinda Lavender: stringing the beads of dearness
    Calvino Rabeni: yes :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Imagining having a necklace of those beads, one for each day
    Paradise Tennant: smiles a huge smile what a lovely image
    Lucinda Lavender: interestingly after the concert I went to a gift stor and bought a bracelet...of beads that change color with heat...like a mood bracelet:)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: wonders what lucinda's favourite stone is ?
    Lucinda Lavender: I like them all...
    Lucinda Lavender: this was popping out at me tho and I thought of my dream where mixing colors was my work:)
    Lucinda Lavender: think it is kind of interesting that it has figured in to the conversation...
    Lucinda Lavender: playing with color
    Calvino Rabeni: yes .. how did that happen?

    Lucinda Lavender: stringing the sentence of dearness
    Santoshima Resident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Axc16CNkNS0
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, not available in the US san
    Santoshima Resident: a moment


    Calvino Rabeni: a nice metaphor.. life as a set of moments, with the thread of awareness making them into string or a sentence
    Paradise Tennant: somehow the position of things give them meaning
    Calvino Rabeni: and their accessibility, and the way they are combined
    Lucinda Lavender: it allows for the shift of attention too
    Lucinda Lavender: like a mala
    Santoshima Resident: and sutra

    Santoshima Resident: please excuse me ... have been working on a treehouse, and it's ready to plant ~ please come and visit some time ~
    Santoshima Resident: good night
    Lucinda Lavender: is it nearby?
    stevenaia Michinaga: night san
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite san sweet dreams :)
    Santoshima Resident: on my plot, beside Storm meditation hut
    Santoshima Resident: see ya
    Paradise Tennant: okies !
    Lucinda Lavender: great! seeyousoon then
    Calvino Rabeni: Good night Santo
    Calvino Rabeni: I noticed myself dreaming during that pause
    stevenaia Michinaga: awake dreaming is fun
    Lucinda Lavender: ^^:)
    Calvino Rabeni: Not so awake I'm afraid :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: a nice edge to be on
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, true
    Lucinda Lavender: Have you heard of a program called Awake?
    stevenaia Michinaga: no
    stevenaia Michinaga: isn't it what we are normally
    Lucinda Lavender: :) a detective experiences a trauma and his consciousness splits kind of and he keep waking to two different worlds
    Paradise Tennant: that is just awkward :) but intriguing
    Lucinda Lavender: well in one he lost a son and in the other he lost a wafe
    Lucinda Lavender: wife
    Calvino Rabeni: That is a new TV series or movie?
    Lucinda Lavender: and the clues from the two paprallel world inform the mystery being solved
    Lucinda Lavender: fairly new
    Lucinda Lavender: tv series
    Paradise Tennant: interesting I never watch tv and I suspect I am missing out ..
    Calvino Rabeni: Same here ... Have not owned one in a long time
    Lucinda Lavender: I do not watch much but this I have enjoyed
    stevenaia Michinaga: may be available online
    Calvino Rabeni: What is its title, Cinda?
    Lucinda Lavender: I like how images from one dream help the other
    Lucinda Lavender: Awake
    Calvino Rabeni: oh, I was dreaming when you told the title :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Or I was in the other world line
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Lucinda Lavender: he has counselors in each too
    Lucinda Lavender: each suggesting that he is in denial
    Calvino Rabeni: An interesting premise
    Lucinda Lavender: yes

    stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.nbc.com/awake/
    Lucinda Lavender: I will keep watching...he is about to move to another city in one life
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at cal we did not have a tv in the house growing up dad did not see the sense in it ..really enjoyed it at friends houses but never missed it at home :)
    Paradise Tennant: but there are some programs that are really worthwhile and you are truly missing out
    Lucinda Lavender: keeping the connection between the two threads
    Paradise Tennant: wonders if all of us are sitting in another world saying sllightly different things wearing slightly different clothes
    Paradise Tennant: sorry bell
    Calvino Rabeni: Sorry, Bell
    Calvino Rabeni: And, you're welcome
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry to bell as well:)
    Calvino Rabeni: So yes, Awake is available in the US on Hulu
    Calvino Rabeni: even for the tv-less like me
    Lucinda Lavender: what I like is how he pics up information and then uses it in the other thread
    Paradise Tennant: kind of like what you do with your dreams luci
    Lucinda Lavender: it feels very real to me
    Calvino Rabeni: so it has a kind of metaphysical aspect to it .. that's interesting
    Calvino Rabeni: yes I'm glad you mentioned this, that it works for you
    Calvino Rabeni: I'd have given it a pass
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...a dream image that is connected to what I will see in the next 24 hours etc
    Lucinda Lavender: when an image pops in...is noticable...then I watch for it...
    Lucinda Lavender: kind of like the beads on the string
    Lucinda Lavender: particularly when a dream image has either mystery or love underyling it
    Paradise Tennant: what kind of dream images have you seen echo in your life luci ?
    Calvino Rabeni: do they do something to signal the dream sequences?
    Lucinda Lavender: for me it is almost always that a dream image is then seen in waking...
    Lucinda Lavender: like my chicken dead in the yard..or my son throwing up...or the buildings falling down on 911
    Paradise Tennant: so they are traumatic ones ?
    Lucinda Lavender: those were strong enough images that I remembered them
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Lucinda Lavender: or noticiable...with a bit of a charge to them
    Lucinda Lavender: in the tv show there are two lives being lived
    Lucinda Lavender: onse with his son and one with his wife
    Lucinda Lavender: with 2 counselors
    Calvino Rabeni: It's a long way from The Thin Man, eh?
    Lucinda Lavender: just very interesting yes a long way
    Calvino Rabeni: anyway I think I'd better head dreamward myself
    Lucinda Lavender: me too:)
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Cal, Luci
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks everyone .. have a great week :)
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite nite cal sweet dreams
    Calvino Rabeni: thanks :) Happy trundling
    Calvino Rabeni: bye all
    Lucinda Lavender: night Cal:)
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry to go on an on
    Paradise Tennant: no was very interesting
    stevenaia Michinaga: perked my interest
    Paradise Tennant: finding the concept of dream echos .. very engaging
    Paradise Tennant: you must be a sensitive luci :)
    Paradise Tennant: in tune I think
    Lucinda Lavender: perhaps so...
    Paradise Tennant: jto be able to pick up ..
    Lucinda Lavender: I did have trauma as a child...so I would have my radar up so to speak
    Lucinda Lavender: radar for those I love and care for
    Lucinda Lavender: never knew about my conductor tho...
    Lucinda Lavender: had many dreams about him
    Lucinda Lavender: never about what would happen tho
    Paradise Tennant: you were connected .. in a way

    Lucinda Lavender: yes..tho not quite like a family member
    Paradise Tennant: yes family is much more intense
    Paradise Tennant: or a stronger bond
    Lucinda Lavender: when we dream and see parts of our family landscape show up then there feels like a special situation going on...each object has an important meaning?
    Lucinda Lavender: something unknown becoming known
    Lucinda Lavender: something familiar becoming newly of interest
    Paradise Tennant: always wonder if there are not endless possibilites of what could happen that just bubble away below the surface of reality with only a fraction making it into being
    Lucinda Lavender: well I should go I guess
    Lucinda Lavender: rest well everyone:)
    Paradise Tennant: yes me too I have a last dog walk to do and then time to trundle off to bed :))
    Lucinda Lavender: and all your families too:)
    Paradise Tennant: sweet dreams luci :))
    Lucinda Lavender: sweet dreams to you both:)
    Paradise Tennant: sweet dreams stev :))
    stevenaia Michinaga: night Luci, Para, enjoy your walk
    Paradise Tennant: thank you both always enjoy the company


    There’s a thread you follow. It goes among
    things that change.  But it doesn’t change.
    People wonder about what you are pursuing.
    You have to explain about the thread.

    You don’t ever let go of the thread.

    "The Way it Is", by William Stafford

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