2012.09.09 19:00 - Subliminal

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Cinda :)
    Lucinda Lavender: boo!
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: just done with dinner by the fire pit
    Calvino Rabeni: You've got a lot from that fire pit !
    Lucinda Lavender: yep
    Lucinda Lavender: got more broken concrete that has been placed and so it expands it a bit
    Lucinda Lavender: what are you doing by pointing at the fountain?
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks for asking :)
    Calvino Rabeni: No one was here, so I started getting curious about the "space" around
    Lucinda Lavender: nice
    Calvino Rabeni: and noticed how much I don't know / not aware of
    Calvino Rabeni: that makes it seem like "space"
    Calvino Rabeni: I have no sense of the cardinal directions
    Calvino Rabeni: in second life
    Lucinda Lavender: that makes you a space explorer
    Lucinda Lavender: I do a bit
    Lucinda Lavender: off to our right is south I think
    Lucinda Lavender: and up toward the dome is north
    Calvino Rabeni: You're right ... not sure how you know that though?
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Santoshima
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening Santoshima :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Remember Cinda your idea of doing a medicine wheel in SL?
    Santoshima Resident: good evening, Lucinda and Calvino
    Calvino Rabeni: If I remember right?
    Lucinda Lavender: yes! I never ended up doing it did I?
    Calvino Rabeni: No ?
    Lucinda Lavender: no
    Lucinda Lavender: I thought about it...
    Lucinda Lavender: and did not follow through
    Calvino Rabeni: This circle could become a medicine wheel
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: In a subtle way
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: there is a lot of head space
    Santoshima Resident: what is needed?
    Calvino Rabeni: if you look up at the circular ceiling
    Lucinda Lavender: dependeds on the wheel that you want to create
    Santoshima Resident: yes, often look up and take images of the circle up there
    Calvino Rabeni: there could be a few symbols marking the cardinal directions

    Lucinda Lavender: if we made the fountain the center then I would be in the west...
    Santoshima Resident: it's very funny,
    Santoshima Resident: people are storing things under the fountain edge
    Lucinda Lavender: like what?
    Santoshima Resident: a deck chair and other items
    Lucinda Lavender: hmm...I wonder why?
    Santoshima Resident: please excuse me, i am just amusing myself
    Calvino Rabeni: I am now facing North, I believe, based on what you said earlier CInda
    Santoshima Resident: pls continue
    Calvino Rabeni: (looks under)
    Calvino Rabeni: So under the ground is a closet, in second life ?
    Calvino Rabeni: That's weird :) if this were RL there would be animals or ghosts there :)
    Santoshima Resident: appears to be without ghost
    Calvino Rabeni: Nods
    Lucinda Lavender: What I like about the wheel I have used are the words and things associated with directions....it was used for dream circle tho and I think of the wheel as organic in a way
    Lucinda Lavender: changeable
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes .. wondering how could that be designed with SL objects
    Lucinda Lavender: If one were to look at what is in the current directions one could assign things that are seen there...like east having sacred art or north having art and resting places, and south having freespace and west a meeting place as well as KuanYin
    Lucinda Lavender: free space seems wild
    Lucinda Lavender: and undeveloped
    Lucinda Lavender: museums as containers
    Calvino Rabeni: It is funny, this town I'm in is a little like living in a big museum
    Calvino Rabeni: it reminds me a bit of a SL in RL
    Lucinda Lavender: artdomes and personal resting places, in the west places to meet as well as the oracular and meditative
    Lucinda Lavender: spots
    Calvino Rabeni: everything works by the clock .. fills up a lot of space with cultural objects
    Lucinda Lavender: really can you say more Cal?
    Calvino Rabeni: Sound travels well in the valley ... there are numerous venues,
    Calvino Rabeni: the main one being the Shakespeare Festival
    Lucinda Lavender: nods
    Calvino Rabeni: and every day from 7to 7:55 there is a music on open stage
    Calvino Rabeni: half a mile away
    Calvino Rabeni: maybe less
    Lucinda Lavender: wow! quite a place
    Santoshima Resident: yeah
    Calvino Rabeni: and then at 7:55 it stops, and there are medieval trumpets
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    Calvino Rabeni: announcing the movement into the main theatre
    Santoshima Resident: :) to herald in the thesbians
    Calvino Rabeni: a replica based on the Globe Theater - circular
    Lucinda Lavender: back in time
    Santoshima Resident: great!
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes it is a herald indeed
    Lucinda Lavender: brb

    Calvino Rabeni: And then there is the rabble of the crowd .. young rowdies .. who get going after midnight until about 2am
    Calvino Rabeni: brb green tea :)
    Santoshima Resident: ditto
    Lucinda Lavender: tea too
    Santoshima Resident: *
    Calvino Rabeni: bk
    Lucinda Lavender: lemon-ginger
    Santoshima Resident: tea in hand, green
    Santoshima Resident: raining here, no rowdies, just lulling sounds
    Lucinda Lavender: ah! is it the first in a while?
    Calvino Rabeni: Here it was the drumbeat announcing the theater ... no rain yet from the western regions
    Santoshima Resident: first since it has turned darker in the evening
    Calvino Rabeni: but it is starting to feel like that
    Lucinda Lavender: we are expecting it very soon too
    Calvino Rabeni: I will be traveling north ... probably to arrive just in time for it :)
    Lucinda Lavender: aw...so drive carefully
    Calvino Rabeni: welcome back to the rainy northwest
    Lucinda Lavender: it is so dry here right now
    Lucinda Lavender: every piece of wood snaps
    Lucinda Lavender: oh! my tea bag has a message on it!...May your inner self be secure and happy.
    Santoshima Resident: :))
    Calvino Rabeni: Speaking of Lavender ... I was sitting outdoors and I noticed how well they grow .. huge and lush in spite of the drought .. there are big lavender bushes all around the area
    Lucinda Lavender: wow really
    Lucinda Lavender: drought tolerant then
    Santoshima Resident: very
    Lucinda Lavender: rosemary too?
    Calvino Rabeni: Nods .. dry climates seem really friendly to aromatic plants
    Calvino Rabeni: yes there is that too
    Lucinda Lavender: I like the aromatic ones
    Santoshima Resident: sage, lavender, mullen, rosemary
    Calvino Rabeni: Sage, many mint-like plants, lemony minty combinations
    Santoshima Resident: what else
    Lucinda Lavender: when I went to Port Townsend I say grasses on peoples yards
    Santoshima Resident: lemony mint sounds a good combination
    Lucinda Lavender: the deer won't eat them
    Santoshima Resident: grasses?
    Calvino Rabeni: well a lot of red-barked green-leaved plants
    Calvino Rabeni: manzanita, madrone
    Santoshima Resident: madrone, beautiful
    Calvino Rabeni: berries favoured by the bears
    Santoshima Resident: manzanita i don't know
    Santoshima Resident: is there another name?
    Lucinda Lavender: there is one that looks like pony tails blowing in the wind!
    Santoshima Resident: wind flowers
    Santoshima Resident: anemone
    Santoshima Resident: or something like that
    Santoshima Resident: grasses, you mean
    Lucinda Lavender: sorry grasses are like pony tails not sure their name at all
    Santoshima Resident: i was thinking of smaller flowers

    Santoshima Resident: prt townsend has a wonderful poetry press
    Santoshima Resident: called Copper Canyon
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Santoshima Resident: at least, i think it is still there
    Santoshima Resident: a wonderful designer i used to admire
    Santoshima Resident: designed for them
    Lucinda Lavender: it was right by where my husband took his gypsy Wagon class
    Santoshima Resident: ahh
    Santoshima Resident: a mythic press for me
    Santoshima Resident: i haven't ever visited
    Santoshima Resident: Tree Swensen
    Santoshima Resident: hello wherever you are
    Calvino Rabeni: I think I saw that grass
    Calvino Rabeni: (wow big lag)
    Calvino Rabeni: Here is manzanita
    Calvino Rabeni: google link


    Calvino Rabeni nods, PT is a great town
    Santoshima Resident: completely beautiful tree
    Calvino Rabeni: The trail is in a tunnel under it
    Calvino Rabeni: when I came here first in the 90s there was a whole trail network underneath it
    Santoshima Resident: nice
    Calvino Rabeni: all in tunnels, and it was named after Alice in Wonderland places
    Lucinda Lavender: lovely
    Santoshima Resident: quite, yes, lovely
    Santoshima Resident: is that an image you took?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, from today
    Calvino Rabeni: Add to that large looming sculpted boulders in some places .. fanciful names like the Mad Hatter trail, etc. .. it's a fun landscape
    Lucinda Lavender: did you imagine much while walking there?
    Lucinda Lavender: anything new or unusual?
    Calvino Rabeni: yes .. and now .. the tricky thing is familiarity ... the new and unusual seems shy under those conditions
    Calvino Rabeni: but .. Idid find a good one
    Lucinda Lavender: you mean...familiarity has what sort of effect...?
    Calvino Rabeni: the space becomes less numinous
    Calvino Rabeni: more mundane
    Lucinda Lavender: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: perhaps .. less of .. what's the word ... oh yes, "sublime" ... an old-fashioned word

    Lucinda Lavender: below limes
    Santoshima Resident: :)*
    Calvino Rabeni: Good question
    Lucinda Lavender: sometimes I imagine like there is a spiral of waves rotating around me or just in front...
    Calvino Rabeni: Of or relating to a transitional or initial stage of a process. Occupying a position at, or on both sides of, a boundary or threshold.
    Calvino Rabeni: The threshold I think you understand
    Calvino Rabeni: under the threshhold
    Calvino Rabeni: definition of "liminal"

    "Subliminal" also means something about perception and awareness, "present, beneath one's conscious notice"

    Lucinda Lavender: interesting word
    Calvino Rabeni: Can give a practical example...
    Calvino Rabeni: I'd been contemplating last week, the proverb "find a place to trust, and then try trusting it for a while"
    Calvino Rabeni: there are familiar places we pass by
    Calvino Rabeni: and on the edge of them , places we don't visit
    Calvino Rabeni: and don't know what is in there
    Calvino Rabeni: maybe down inside
    Santoshima Resident: only place
    Calvino Rabeni: and maybe slightly aversive because of that possible depth
    Calvino Rabeni: but I think it could happen almost anywhere
    Calvino Rabeni: Off to the side of a road i'd traveled hundreds of time, there was a small canyon I'd never stepped into
    Calvino Rabeni: not sure why .. being busy, on the way somewhere, or it seems unexceptional
    Calvino Rabeni: So I went there, sat down, and then, to my right, stone buddha appeared, or perhaps a troll
    Calvino Rabeni: with hair of ivy and a meditating eye
    Lucinda Lavender: rich then

    Calvino Rabeni: Like to see a photo of him?
    Santoshima Resident: yes!!
    Lucinda Lavender: yes!
    Calvino Rabeni: google link
    Calvino Rabeni: tell me if that works


    Santoshima Resident: really works
    Santoshima Resident: jizo
    Lucinda Lavender: wow!
    Lucinda Lavender: quite remarkable
    Santoshima Resident: sweet face
    Calvino Rabeni: the head about 1.5 meter diameter, with a perfect hair of ivy
    Calvino Rabeni: waiting there all these years
    Santoshima Resident: hmm
    Lucinda Lavender: nice...I have to go because i need to get ready for tomorrow...be well all:) see you soon...
    Santoshima Resident: good night, Lucinda
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks ...:)
    Calvino Rabeni: I should do the same, I think
    Lucinda Lavender: lovely pictures and thoughts Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks for your company, Santoshima and Lucinda
    Santoshima Resident: i'll go too ~ g'ninght Calvino ~ thanks for the images
    Calvino Rabeni: Good night :)
    Calvino Rabeni: dream well
    Santoshima Resident: bye, Cal :) you too

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    wow Calvin--ty for adding the images. This was a great session!
    Posted 04:25, 12 Sep 2012
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