2012.11.02 19:00 - Three Awakenings

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eden Haiku. The comments are by Eden Haiku.
    Santoshima and Fc Play as Being Pavilion, Bieup (62, 35, 103).jpg
         Santoshima listening to Fc Seeker's story
    Xs Andree: me waves
    Xs Andree waves even
    Eden Haiku: Hi Xs Andree :)
    Xs Andree: Hello
    Eden Haiku: I haven't been here for a while Andree. I'm a bit rusted guardian:)
    Xs Andree: That is okay, I'm new so still learning
    Eden Haiku: How do you like Play as Being so far?
    Xs Andree: i love it.
    Eden Haiku: Great!
    Xs Andree: i think I've done more through here than muddling about blind on my own, certainly
    Eden Haiku: I'm celebrating my 3rd year at PaB today!
    Xs Andree: congratulations!
    Eden Haiku: Thanks. I' haven't been here often in the last year but I thought I might fly in here tonite :)
    Xs Andree: I"m glad you did, doesn't look like anyone else has shown yet.
    Xs Andree: but still early
    Eden Haiku: I know the guardian on duty won't be able to make it tonite. But others might come ;) Tell me about yourself Andree.
    Xs Andree: What do you want to know?
    Eden Haiku: Well, how did you find this place?
    Eden Haiku: Hi Fc, long time no see ;)
    Xs Andree: hello, FC Seeker, good to see you again, i think.
    FcSeeker Resident: _/!\_
    Eden Haiku: Bowing to you dear panda :)
    FcSeeker Resident: Hi *
    FcSeeker Resident: hm...your not sure Xs ?
    Xs Andree: nope. Do you remember me?
    FcSeeker Resident: I sadly must say that I dont...hve we met ?
    FcSeeker Resident: have
    Xs Andree: i don't know. I remember your name. I remember Play As Being, but not where from specifically.
    Xs Andree: Hieronymus told me he was at a meeting discussing Dualism, and i wanted to listen in, so i came here on his invitation. I was immediately struck by the sense that i'd been here before.
    FcSeeker Resident: well...I've appeared only to few meetings; on Hikari for a while, Kannnonjii for few times, twice to an other meditation group , but mostly here in Play as Being...ah yes; and in Kira Cafe few times
    Xs Andree: I remember boxy, i think, and Riddle Sideways, and i heard your name and it sounded familiar.
    FcSeeker Resident: ah; that I can understand more than well...
    Xs Andree: I looked for myelf in the logs, but didn't see me.
    Eden Haiku: The snes that you had been here before, that's interesting Andree, an SL sense of déjà vu?
    Eden Haiku: *sense
    FcSeeker Resident: but...that may not be so simple thing to discuss in chat...well...anyway; think that it was your spirit; your and Eden's that called me to log in right now...as I felt even a rush...
    Xs Andree: more powerful than deja vu. The longer i'm here, the more I remember, but i don't remmber things from the way they are now.
    Eden Haiku: Oh, how so?
    Xs Andree listens
    FcSeeker Resident: *so very understandable*
    FcSeeker Resident: but ...well...yes;
    FcSeeker Resident: I was called to bring a story to people being present here now....
    Eden Haiku: ((((Eliza))))!
    Eliza Madrigal: ((((Eden!!)))))
    FcSeeker Resident: Eliza
    Eden Haiku: Listening to Fc Seeker :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Xs :), Fc... listening too
    FcSeeker Resident: nobody against me to tell a story ?
    Xs Andree wave waves!
    Eliza Madrigal: would love to hear a story
    Eden Haiku: ": I was called to bring a story to people being present here now...." we are listening Fc...
    Xs Andree: Please do.
    A story from Finland
    FcSeeker Resident: then ok; it's something I wrote long time ago, and it was published also in the magazine in my home country....
    FcSeeker Resident: so; I have translated it and having on the notecard...so; just a sec...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: ok;)
    FcSeeker Resident: Today people say "This is the best place in the whole archipelago" to the nowadays owner of Rumar.
    FcSeeker Resident: so; the story itself;
    FcSeeker Resident: It was the holy number of people that gathered together in Korppoo; Rumar on the 13. of November 1999.
    Silver StargateRumar 0032.jpg
    In the island of Korppoo, in Finland, on the 13 of November 1999
    FcSeeker Resident: These people had no common language, so they had to use three different ones, but they had otherwise so much in common.
    FcSeeker Resident: For example, they all had creatred something that served people, also in business and as institutions.
    FcSeeker Resident: Each one's knowledge level was also very unic, but all of them knew about there roots, and the reasons, why do they live as a human being on Earth. It was also very obvious to all of them, thatt there's only a little of such things as obvious in life.
    FcSeeker Resident: Like it was also with understanding, what comes to the 'levels' of knowledge and awareness. That what comes even to one's own spirtual matters, the way how they reveal and so, has not so much to do with one's charachter or skills or so, but is always more based on what kind of mission one do have *
    FcSeeker Resident: Some of them had met only once; some never before. Inspite of that, the thoughts which brought these people together, were just like in any customary family reunion.
    FcSeeker Resident: These people are living in Northern countries, but one of them had just been participant in the conference in the middle of Europe, in which there was paritcipants from all ower the world. From that conference, he brought this very significent message tothis event;
    FcSeeker Resident: "The whole world is waiting for The Light from North to begin to shine from Finland".
    FcSeeker Resident: In this event, these people signed Magna Fakta, which declarations was sended also to the King of Sweden, and to the presidents of Finland and USA. Karl Gustav, Martti Ahtisaari and Bill Clinton.
    FcSeeker Resident: The sentencies of Magna Fakta are written by three languages; finnish, swedish and english;
    FcSeeker Resident: Human beings are entities, and have a spirit, that is soul, and free will. Every form of life is holy. Nothing controlls life itself.
    FcSeeker Resident: The words of Magna Fakta caused a very lively discussion. This 'prooved' to everybody, that affriming them with own signature was such, which each one wanted truely do; anything such good, that could get people to think and have conversations.
    FcSeeker Resident: All of them also knew and felt, taht they are creating 'something more' by there presens, which shall be for help to people. Something, about which nobody knew yet, that what it shall be. Yet; each one felt a warm and bright flash in the chest thinking about, and that feeling was enought to all.
    FcSeeker Resident: Some 'witchcraft', of which many people would us the terms of Fung Shui, were 'born' like by themselves, and guided the partiipants insted of that anybody would've been creating such with knowing to do so. For example such tiny decoration swans, which I did buy by instinct. The seller had packed them withouht coutning, how many of them looked to which direction...I myself had not even noticed that they were different, but in Rumar. There I noticed that and the 'message' too; they guided me with the order for people to sit. Which also was something such, that I didn't understand but years after, when I had learned much more of 'everything'. So there was many things done, which all could understand easily, but also many such things that 'got there meaning' years later.
    FcSeeker Resident: I've been participant to numerous events in order to open the stargate, but at least until these days (year 2008), it has turned out, that one special pheomena was needed to come true only in Rumar. Inspire of that, I'm willing to tell about it. Otherwise than the scientists usually bring out the most usuall phenomenas...allthough all of them scientists I've spoken about that way to examine things, have agreed with me, that them exeptions could prefere give much more new answers
    FcSeeker Resident: My will to bring that out is, cuz I've seen so many times happened, that people are trying to avoid something bad to happen, even that would've been the most purifying phenomena. To describe it, I dont know better word than this; the explosion.
    FcSeeker Resident: It was, that one of the participants thought, that he's got such very urgent request to bring, that he had decided save it for the 'best moment' to tell. The more he commanded himself to be patient, and them 'best moments' gave the disappointment, the more his eagerness grew up. Because there was not any specific 'manuscript' to follow, there was always 'something' that 'spoiled' the possibility to use such moment.
    FcSeeker Resident: When he finally took that THE best moment was in hand, he was not able to hear what the other people tried to tell him about the same thing. Naturally this created such state, that he couldn't unerstand 'in good time', that it was he, who had not got information enough of the matter. That surely took him up to the state, that he couldn't anymore controll himself, and he left the room in huge anger.
    FcSeeker Resident: It was completely unexpected 'explosion', like the lightning from the clear sky. Which expression indeed do also give a quite clear 'picture' of the power of the energetig level's phenomena. That evening people understood only, that somebody had understood something very wrong.
    FcSeeker Resident: Many people would expect, that this made something bad, but on the contrary; cuz of the true understanding of the bond of Love between all these people was 'there', it happened, that each one acted even more open and free.
    FcSeeker Resident: There was no more any such kind of questions left, like this; 'can I do something', 'may I do something', or 'must I do something'; no; as the Truth rose even stronger from each ones heart, and soon the peace was back. The 'lightning' was needed, and it worked, just like it does to the wider nature; purfiy *
    FcSeeker Resident: So...what was there to purify ? ALL of the thoughts, which stopped even one of the persons to KNOW, that everyone of us do Love, Value and Honour one and an other, no matter if all had met before. So because all good was genuin, the worry of one person's sadness helped each one to forget own shyness and doupts of rights to act completely free. In other words; to be what one is.
    FcSeeker Resident: So the new, even more tight harmony was born. The new road did appear; something that nobody couldn't have searched, expect or ask.
    FcSeeker Resident: There was also one new expression born :)*, like a by-product, which everybody understood immediately, this; 'piised off' :)* So also the flower of humor started to bloom more. With more words this means; reasonable resentment, which does not point to any person, and to what the person asks forgiveness and do know the one's got that already before asking.
    FcSeeker Resident: That all leaded also to the situation, all of the participants 'sat' more strong into the persent space, the present moment, and among the present people. The most important message had been brouhgt, and it was time to the question; "What do we want to do here and now". Nobody said that question aloud, but it came to each one's mind, but with the answer; Now it is time for us to enjoy of ourselves, so good company, the beautiful nature around...not to mention sauna.
    FcSeeker Resident: The nature of Rumar is balanced with all of the elements; soil, water and air/space, has complete harmony. The Spirit ? The Fire ? Oh yes; that we knew we had brought to be present also with ourselves, but also we all knew, that we had brought also huge amount of other spirits with us; so many people, who woud've want to take part with there physical existence too, but coudn't do that for different reasons: The feeling, that we and these spirts fullfilled the area, was clear and common to all.
    FcSeeker Resident: Nothing, and on the other hand all, happened like by 'itself'; somebody wanted to speak, sometbody wanted only to listen, but both happened with each one's whole exisence. Somebody was needed to ask to share 'something', and then they did that gladly.
    FcSeeker Resident: No trivial questions were present, and even the faintness came to all with the tenderness like the soflly darkening night.
    FcSeeker Resident: In the morning, we met with good mood and bright spirit, even many had normally have hard time to get awake early :)* Will to stay as long as ever possible, was to feel as alive energy in the whole area, but to me there was this feeling of 'knocking' rising...which ment that I'de need to go soon. That was not so strong, but got stronger 'all the time'...and I did listen to it, but didn't obey :)* I knwe that to be a warning of 'something' not so huge good to happen to me, if I do not obey, but also it was, that I felt the permission to tell about it to other. They surely asked me 'just to stay', cuz I was not worried myself, because I didn't feel that to be a command...
    FcSeeker Resident: Slowly it started to feel near like one, but to depart was so hard...but after few whiles, I started to understand more;
    FcSeeker Resident: I was standing quite in the middle of the room when I felt, that from above me happened just like explosion; as so huge powerfull energies did flow over me, that I nearly fell down for that. That moment I though, that it was the 'final countdown' for me to leave, and all the others realized also that it is time to say 'Sayonara'.
    FcSeeker Resident: I take, that all of the readers do understand, that it is impossible to leave such event, but with the body; the spirit and mind stays there much longer. Surely that happened to me too; my mind was flying around Rumar also when I woke up on the next day...to the enlightening insight what had happened.
    Eden Haiku: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: Taking contact to others, they all told about how they had returned home with such great, warm feelings, that they had never experienced before. That motion had not left even them, who needed to travel much, neither them, who had needed to go to work already too.
    Eden Haiku: Hi Santoshima:)
    FcSeeker Resident: Him, who owned Rumar those dsys, I reached to be there. Already his voice when he answered my call, told so huge much... He told how he ans his wife had left Rumar for visit there home, but returned to fix things for the winter...and how they had felt such huge srong new energies already approaching the area; far away. Crying and thanking he tried to describe the feeling wihtin it's greatness and glory...my saying helped him to understand that he do not need to find more words, as I told this;
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: "There has the Stargate been born in Rumar."
    FcSeeker Resident: He realized, that he's got the explanation, and he 'signed' that saying with sigh of releaf and his voice full of Love; "Everything is changed."
    Eden Haiku: Hi Lucinda:)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello San and Luci :)
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Hi Eden:)
    Kairos time
    Eden Haiku: Thank you fr your amazing story Fc. It resonates on many levels...
    Eliza Madrigal: lovely Story, FcS, thank you (indeed finished?)
    Lucinda Lavender: the sky is full of big grey squares coming down:)
    Santoshima Resident: wonderful, ty Fc
    Eliza Madrigal: they'll clarify a bit with time Luci
    Santoshima Resident: those are snow particles, Luci
    Eliza Madrigal: become snow :)
    FcSeeker Resident: ty
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...I guess I have to go...greetings to all:)
    Eden Haiku: How do you feel Fc, after telling your story?
    Eden Haiku: By Lucinda
    Eden Haiku: Welcome back Andree
    Xs Andree: thank you. crashed out my video card
    Xs Andree: lol
    Eden Haiku: ;)
    FcSeeker Resident: feeling still a bit busy....
    Eden Haiku: what do you mean?
    Eden Haiku: writing more notecards?
    FcSeeker Resident: well...have you ever heared that to smoke a Camel cigarrette takes 25 min ?
    Santoshima Resident: long smoke
    Eden Haiku: ah ah :)
    FcSeeker Resident: well...even 4 min more....
    Eden Haiku: can you smoke in the house? is it already cold in Finland?
    Eden Haiku: A friend of mine who died last week used to say that smoking cigarettes is a way to avoid your emotions:)
    FcSeeker Resident: but yes; I cheked the time; it was 9:41 and went out to have that smoke...returning to see time to be 10:10....
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry to hear of loss, Eden :(
    FcSeeker Resident: I am sorry for your lost Eden
    Eden Haiku: Ah, so you just fed us the notecards hehe
    Eden Haiku: Thn aks Eliza. She was a sweet soul. I feel she's with me on this Day of the Dead:)
    FcSeeker Resident: well; I felt that call just before I went out for the smoke, thinking I'll have good time for that...
    Eden Haiku: As my Mom was when I walked in here for the fisrt time on this very day 3 years ago :)
    Eliza Madrigal: thin lines
    Eliza Madrigal: (((((Eden))))))) thank you for being here
    FcSeeker Resident: _/!\_
    Santoshima Resident: peace to you, Eden
    FcSeeker Resident: ...my mom 'died' several years ago, but I've felt her presense almost each day....
    Xs Andree nods, knowing the feeling
    FcSeeker Resident: ....Silver is energy which gives strength to everything as it gives it's self....
    Eden Haiku: Your story about the opening of a «stargate» somewhere in Finland back in 1999 resonates with this feeling of thin lines between our world and the world of the Dead ...
    FcSeeker Resident: *yes*
    FcSeeker Resident: well...had no idea of the day, just got that feeling....'the call'....
    Eden Haiku: as well as other worlds I'm sure :)
    Xs Andree: I felt like the time i remember being here, but I didn't come to second life until 2006, and i don't think it was open then either.
    FcSeeker Resident: some of my friends here knows exactly what that means....
    Xs Andree: and not everything is the same as Seeker's story
    Xs Andree nods
    Eliza Madrigal: grace fills pavilion - in a ballerina dress - thin lines instant Friends
    FcSeeker Resident: well...Xs...we have never departed on the spiritual level, no matter our human 'part' of our existence has not known each other ....
    Eden Haiku: Oh, thank you for this haiku dearest Eliza:)))
    Xs Andree: The etenal moment, the here that is always now
    Eden Haiku: Kairos time :)
    Eliza Madrigal: <3
    Xs Andree: kairos time?
    Eden Haiku: Different from Chronos time, kairos time zeroeth tme, a jump into eternity...
    Xs Andree: To be as light, existing, not travelling, being at all spaces at all times. One here, one now, everywhere and everywhen
    Eden Haiku: Yes, excactly
    Xs Andree: Everyone has argued that except for you
    Eden Haiku: *exactly... oh typos, typos!!!
    Experiencing PaB for the first time
    Xs Andree: which is why when I first came here, I didn't know if it was the last time I was here, or the first. I don't feel that way often, but i did that day
    Xs Andree: i still don't nkow
    Xs Andree: know
    Eliza Madrigal: so familiar have you seemed Xs that I've done searches... but seems you are new ... or, you have all of us suspended :)
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Xs Andree: I haven't wanted to tell of my first memvory of this place until now, but I"m not sure if this is the time I tell it or not. Something keeps my mouth shut. I've said a little before, but not all.
    Eden Haiku: I certainly feel suspended in time right now :)
    Xs Andree: I do too, last night i felt disconnected, as if something had happened, but i couldn't tell what
    FcSeeker Resident: ah yes; this photo is From the house in which the silver stargate was born....it may help you to get more of it's help if you like, when you travel there in your mind
    Eden Haiku: Letting you decide :) But curious :)
    Xs Andree: i went out for a walk, and i felt being at all times for a very long time, longer than i've known before
    Eliza Madrigal: such an interesting tree in the picture FcS :)
    Santoshima Resident: yes
    Xs Andree: It looks like the Yggsdrasil
    Eliza Madrigal: would love to hear Xs, when you feel safe or easy with that
    Xs Andree: okay
    Xs Andree: I was on second life, I remember that, but sometimes i think it was a dream about second life.
    Xs Andree: A friend of mine told me about play as Being, said that it was what Second life essentially was about
    Eden Haiku: That is certainly an interesting state to be in when you end up at the PaB fountain Xs Andree:)
    Xs Andree: so i took a tp there, on their insistence that i go, it was an important event, and everyone had to be there.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    FcSeeker Resident: I am so sorry Xs that I must go....can I ask you to give me a note card of your telling which I cannot now hear ?
    Xs Andree: And we were on a disc of gold high up over the sim, it was very large, but you could see the edges of it, and there were pillars, but the top was open.
    Xs Andree nods
    Eden Haiku: You can read the log Fc :)
    Santoshima Resident: bye Fc
    Eliza Madrigal waves to Fc
    FcSeeker Resident: takes a humble bow
    Santoshima Resident: so good to see you
    FcSeeker Resident: take care
    Eden Haiku: waves
    Eliza Madrigal: and listens attentively... a golden disc... smiling....
    Eden Haiku: Mesmerized by the golden disk ;)
    Xs Andree: The pillars were larger and spaced further apart than here.
    Xs Andree: There were many avi's there of all kinds, nearly all were not human, but of some special sort, like dragons and mice and demons and angels of all sorts
    Xs Andree: just about everything you could think of and more
    Xs Andree: there were so many that people were shoulting not to move until we'd rezzed because people were getting pushed off
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Xs Andree: And i'd said something, and everyone got very angry with me
    Xs Andree: even though there was already a lot of noise and clamor
    Xs Andree: So I left, and I got a message asking that i not return. I got an apology from someone else as well, saying to be patient.
    Xs Andree: and then Play at Being closed
    Eden Haiku: In the dream right?
    Eliza Madrigal: interesting
    Xs Andree: it had to be, I haven't been here before.
    Eden Haiku: Right, that was before...
    Xs Andree: But as i was leaving, someone had set off an explosion.
    Xs Andree: like a troll attack
    Xs Andree: a push effect that knocked everyone off
    Xs Andree: or would have, it was meant to, but not everyone got knocked off
    Santoshima Resident: { please excuse me, need to go ... g'night everyone }
    Eden Haiku: oh, an explosion, like in Fc's story?
    Eliza Madrigal: Night San
    Eden Haiku: Bye San :)
    Eliza Madrigal: was there a sense of moving backwards or mixed up time?
    Xs Andree: I always have that sense
    Eliza Madrigal: premonistic dreams are so fascinating.... getting into a moment and remembering
    Xs Andree shrugs
    Xs Andree: It could have been another when, and another where, another universe
    Xs Andree: ones we only see with our imagination, thinking we've made them, instead of seeing them
    Eden Haiku: yes...
    Eliza Madrigal: could represent emotions too I suppose... or odd dynamics that happen under surfaces
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Xs Andree: few of my dreams come literally true
    Eliza Madrigal: I've been dreaming this way for a week or more now and waking exhausted every day....
    Xs Andree: sometimes I don't think I belong here, i get such strong impressions of things that are never true literally, but always metaphorically, close to true, but my impression of them is not accurate
    Eden Haiku: Still under the influence of last MondayMs full moon Eliza?
    Eliza Madrigal: perhaps Eden... I looked at dream logs and see that this time of year I dream darker dreams generally... so extra sensitive perhaps
    Eliza Madrigal: do you feel you are trying to solve a mystery here Xs?
    Eden Haiku: Thank you for sharing this Xs.
    Eden Haiku: I'm sorry I have to leave now.
    Xs Andree: not really. I'm used to being led by whatever reasons pull me to a place, or convince me to do something, even though the reasons are not the same as the ones which I do them.
    Eden Haiku: Hope I see you again soon.
    Xs Andree: i hope so too
    Xs Andree: because i remember you as well
    Eden Haiku: Bye Xs, bye bye sweet (((Eliza))).
    Eliza Madrigal: Night Eden <3
    Xs Andree: ♥
    Eliza Madrigal: wow even prettier dress when standing :)
    Three awakenings
    Eliza Madrigal: Xs can you phrase that a different way... re reasons?
    Xs Andree: I feel led, the things i do and say i don't always understand the reasons for...sometimes I can do them without reason, sometimes they have to be coaxed from me.
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, I see... thank you....
    Xs Andree: so these...ideas start worming into my head, innacurate ones, which lead me to do things that i need to or say things i need to, just not for the reasons I think
    Xs Andree: But they always work out.
    Eliza Madrigal: I've been playing with the idea of "3 awakenings" lately... have you ever heard of that?
    Xs Andree: not as such, but maybe I'll recognize it when you say it.
    Xs Andree: it sounds like I should
    Eliza Madrigal: well, I have met and come to know quite a few very insightful people....
    Eliza Madrigal: and I was puzzling over the idea that such awake people still have disagreements with one another, etc...
    Eliza Madrigal: but then I thought about myself, and what tends to be a trap, and it would be that maybe unlike you I'm not too 'gut oriented'... overly question things....
    Eliza Madrigal: so I heard the idea of 3 awakenings of heart, mind, body
    Eliza Madrigal: and lately I've been sort of watching this... that someone can be so connected, intuitive physically ...
    Eliza Madrigal: or so open hearted....
    Xs Andree listens very closely
    Eliza Madrigal: or so intellectually vast and intricate....
    Eliza Madrigal: and yet not necessarily all three at all times
    Eliza Madrigal: so what you describe in feeling pulled and going with that...
    Eliza Madrigal: so freely, in some ways, yet not really knowing why - seems both liberating and as though there is a mystery/question there
    Eliza Madrigal: not open in another way perhaps... not sure... I think about blind spots a lot because I need to develop this 'gut' action capacity more :)
    Eliza Madrigal: did that sound utterly strange? lol
    Xs Andree: not at all
    Xs Andree: I was raised to fully believe that all people had a valid point, a reason for being here, or else they would not be. No matter how dark or twisted or alien or wrong it seemed to me
    Xs Andree: So when I find i don't agree with someone, or I'm in conflict with them, I try to remember, if I understood all things at all times
    Xs Andree: I would be god
    Xs Andree: and I would not be here.
    Xs Andree: I would be god
    Eliza Madrigal nods.... yes I hope you didn't hear me as diagnosing, just sort of puzzling out a dynamic - different abilities working at different times - forefront and background
    Xs Andree: I would be godNo, I didn't...it is just what helps me to remember, and learn from others, to add to my own abilties and insights and knowledge
    Eliza Madrigal: >whew<
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: were you really raised that way? open-minded parents?
    Xs Andree: oops, lol, cut out that first part, was making a notecard for you.
    Eliza Madrigal: oh :)) ty
    Xs Andree: My mom was i contact with a navajo medicine woman near where she grew up
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Xs Andree: out of all the kids who looked for it, they could not find the sacred site where the medicine woman did her rituals, even though they all knew where it was
    Xs Andree: the couldn't climb the rocks and find the entrance, but my mom did.
    Xs Andree: and I think much of what i learned originally, about equality, and unity, came from that medicine woman, through her
    Eliza Madrigal: imparted knowledge
    Xs Andree: the rest came from wanting to know more. *nods*
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you for this ... deep well
    Eliza Madrigal: have you met personal teachers also, like your mother's friend?
    Eliza Madrigal: I will be reading your notecard a few more times :)
    Xs Andree: I don't know who wrote it.
    Xs Andree: I just found it a few days ago
    Eliza Madrigal: you may like some of the older sessions here, about timeless time....
    Xs Andree: I've found myself pulled away from reading the logs too much. I'm not sure why
    Eliza Madrigal: It would be interesting visit these ideas anew
    Eliza Madrigal: I used to read every word of every log :)
    Xs Andree: I get restless when I read them, as if I should be doing something else, yet, even in moments when there is nothing else needful of doing, I can't read them or focus on them, so I don't. But I might, soon. I don't know
    Eliza Madrigal: surely not necessary - you're here now
    Xs Andree: I met one. A Scientist
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh?
    Xs Andree: A virologist
    Xs Andree: studied viruses...at the time I met him, he was a curious fellow, I often thought he was some sort of con artist, but his work is out there, and he knows it well
    Xs Andree: he's a bit of a hedonist, like...the satyr
    Eliza Madrigal: hm :)
    Xs Andree: always trying to push my limits
    Xs Andree: lol
    Xs Andree: But he lives like an aescthetic
    Xs Andree: with few things to tie him down, always more concerned about the peace in the place he lives in than anything else, yet he stirs up trouble often
    Xs Andree: But I've found in observing him quietly...he disturbs those who disturb others, he's a cynic...like a dog, he knows his enemies and barks a warning at them.
    Xs Andree: and like a dog, he's seldom wrong
    Xs Andree: And like a dog, like diogenes...he acts as he believes.
    Xs Andree: no matter what anyone else thinks
    Eliza Madrigal: observing over a long period of time?
    Xs Andree: I did a mentorship with him over three months. AFter that we remained friends.
    Xs Andree: He was very surprised the next time we spent any length of time together. He'd say "I thought I taught you better than that"
    Xs Andree: and I had to tell him, many different ways..that while I learned under him, I accepted his teachings before adding them to my own before him, but afterward I included them with what I knew
    Xs Andree: and then I pointed out the times he'd say with utmost levity and seriousness, simple things that overturned everything he taught me. I said "you are a scientist. it is your occupation to think this way, to think other ways does you little good, and is dangerous
    Xs Andree: But i am not a scientiest
    Xs Andree: scientist
    Xs Andree: and i don't think I ever will be, as much as i'd like to
    Eliza Madrigal: you have the inquisitiveness for it ^.^
    Xs Andree: I"m not willing to make the sacrifices for it though...to live only in phenomenon
    Xs Andree: Before he left last time, before I came here the first time i know of...for certain...he introduced me to something his friend told him about, Noumenon
    Xs Andree: he was very excited, but I got the name wrong and couldn't find it. It was Giles and boxy that found it for me
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, yes... read that dialog
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you Xs...
    Eliza Madrigal: I'd better go.... sleepy and likely have a dancing date with the fortune telling fairie in dreams
    Xs Andree: Thank you.
    Xs Andree: lol I might go there soon myself.
    Eliza Madrigal: see you there
    Eliza Madrigal: hah
    Xs Andree: I have a lot of dreaming to do for many friends, and I feel well connected enough to do something big for them
    Eliza Madrigal: Night my friend
    Xs Andree: You too!
    Eliza Madrigal: Namaste'
    Xs Andree: Vea nah
    Xs Andree: ao on
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