Page last modified 23:32, 22 Nov 2012 by wol

*Wol Euler was guardian for this session.*

Wol Euler: buongiorno, qt

Qt Core: Hi Wol

Wol Euler: what's new?

Qt Core: i went to see the 3d Guernica, and as with the painting i can appreciate the effort but don't like it very much

Wol Euler nods.

--BELL--

Wol Euler: I don't think people are supposed to *like* it, I believe that Picasso's intention was to make something horrible and upsetting

Qt Core: i agree

Wol Euler: and I think he succeeded

Wol Euler: I'll have a look at that this afternoon

Qt Core: wondering at how rarely i go seeing/searching for paintings is it a decaying for of art ?

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: same here, although I have to admit that my RL gallery visits have also declined in the last few years

Wol Euler: if you mean "painting" itself, paint on canvas, I do still enjoy that greatly.

Qt Core: even sculpting, as for the announcement of new works i've heard is more engineering than classic marble hammering

Wol Euler nods.

Qt Core: yes, but there are new great ones or we enjoy only old (maybe only a few decades old) ones

Qt Core: ?

Wol Euler: oh yes, definitely new great paintings

Wol Euler: Ralph Fleck (I think that's the name) is somebody I discovered recently

Qt Core: good to know (that they exist and that i'm ignorant)

Wol Euler: http://www.artnet.de/K%C3%BCnstler/ralph-fleck/

Qt Core: he paint books, yes, he can't be bad ;-)

Wol Euler: heheheh

Wol Euler: I like his urban landscapes a lot

Wol Euler: if anything I think painting is coming back, after a hard couple of decades in which photography and installation sculptures made all the headlines

Wol Euler: it always disturbed me vaguely that Donald Judd didn't make his own sculptures, he designed them and had them built by furniture makers and shopfitters

Wol Euler: but I suppose that is no different from an architect having her designs built by a bricklayer :)

Qt Core: now photography is so technically easy... is this paintings revival some form of artist elitism ?

Wol Euler: perhaps :)

Qt Core: or they are just luddites ?

--BELL--

Wol Euler: or maybe it is a return of respect for "hand-work", for the ability to make things well

Wol Euler: it's funny that people say "anyone can do that" about painting, where it's manifestly not true, but not about photography where it obviuosly IS true

Qt Core: that's good, that anyone hit by something beautifu or interesting (for whatever reason) can save it wit a picture

Wol Euler nods.

Qt Core: then there are all the trick a pro can make with the camera itself or photoshop & friends, but still no subject no picture

Wol Euler nods.

Qt Core: the difference between the stick man averyone can draw and the vitruvian man is way greater than the everyday portrait pic i can take and a pulitzer pic

Wol Euler: agreed, and part of that is what I meant by hand-work

Wol Euler: manual ability

Qt Core: wondering at the mess i'll end up in if i would ever try to paint (or try to develop my pic on my own)

Wol Euler: perhaps the easy and cheap "perfection" of computer images is related to the return to painting

Wol Euler: a desire for something not easy, not fast, not automatically perfect

Qt Core: the little imperfection may keep the eyes on the thing until we got the message, perhaps, while the perfect image let out attention to slip away ?

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: that sounds possible, yes

Wol Euler: that might be why black-and-white images are so strong ...

--BELL--

Wol Euler: less perfect even when clearly an untreated no-tricks slice of life

Qt Core: in my room i have only one painting, the only one i liked between the ones my sister ever made

Wol Euler smiles.

Qt Core: as it is art i never understood what it is about, ;-)

Wol Euler: hehehhe

Wol Euler: did you ask her?

Qt Core: yes, it become even more puzzling

Wol Euler: ha!

Qt Core: but i like the colours, red/yellow/brown family, mostly

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: and because it was by her, perhaps

Wol Euler: (reasons to like it)

Qt Core: not just for that, i don't like most of them ;-) but maybe the fact that just for once she let me have one of her work

Wol Euler smiles.

--BELL--

Wol Euler: I'm afraid I must go, I'm invited to a 3-year-old's birthday party :)

Wol Euler grins.

Qt Core: you should go in your cat form :-)

Wol Euler: heheh, if only!

Qt Core: have fun!

Wol Euler: thank you, qt, I'm sure I will

Wol Euler: enjoy the day.

Qt Core: i'll try, bye

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