2012.11.24 13:00 - Musing about Mozart, Mushrooms, and Michigan

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Bruce Mowbray. The comments are by Bruce Mowbray.

    Bruce Mowbray: Hello, Catrina!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: You've been here before, haven't you . . . I remember, I think.
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Kori!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes thank you :)
    Korel Laloix: Once or twice...smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, just thought I should check, since I'm a-wash with Ohio State's win over Michigan today.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Korel Laloix: What game?
    Bruce Mowbray: "THE Game," Kori. . .
    Korel Laloix: I mean, what sport? Football?

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    Bruce Mowbray: OSU vs. Michigan. . . . yeah, football. But nevermind.
    Korel Laloix: OK.... smiles
    Korel Laloix: Shows how much I pay attention to that....
    Bruce Mowbray: In other words, we can "dopr" it, since that's this week's theme.....


    Bruce Mowbray: also, "drop" it . . .  --- heh heh
    Korel Laloix: dopr it?
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: hard not to laugh when Bruce does
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Korel Laloix: I have had a couple of glasses of wine, so might be a bit on the tipsy side of things.
    Bruce Mowbray: Hey, Eliza!
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Eliza
    Bruce Mowbray: No problem, Kori.
    Eliza Madrigal: nice to see you all, boozing it up or not ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray looks for wine glass....
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    Catrinamonblue Resident: wine sounds like a good idea, wish I had some here :)
    Korel Laloix: Just pulling the last of my turkey enchiladas out of the oven... lovely smell the whole house.
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- wonderful, Kori!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: whilst I am watching the BBC version of Pride and Prejudice, for the nth time
    Korel Laloix: One of the best things about Thanksgiving culinary abuse.
    Eliza Madrigal: hah...
    Korel Laloix: Pride Prejudice and Zombies?
    Korel Laloix smiles
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) my daughter has read that
    Catrinamonblue Resident: my daughter as well :)
    Korel Laloix: Erin tried to get me to read it.
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Korel Laloix: I resisted.
    Eliza Madrigal: the cover is brilliant.. was tempted
    Eliza Madrigal: but resisted
    Korel Laloix: But Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter was surprisingly not horrible.
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.amazon.com/Pride-Prejudice-Zombies-Classic-Ultraviolent/dp/1594743347
    Korel Laloix: I might sit through a movie version if they make it.
    Korel Laloix: Can't wait till these cool down a bit.
    Bruce Mowbray: I have to drive 50 miles each way to see any movies.... so I try to be sure I REALLY want to see them before I go.
    Bruce Mowbray: What is that new one.... "Cloud Atlas"????
    Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
    Korel Laloix: I make two batches... ones for general consumption and one batch only insane people like to eat as they are so hot.
    Korel Laloix: I heard that was not so good.
    Eliza Madrigal: I liked it...
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh -- I thought you meant the movies needed to "cool down a bit" -- haha
    Korel Laloix: But.... I also heard, see it in a theatre due to how beautiful it is.
    Bruce Mowbray: "Cloud Atlas," Eliza?
    Korel Laloix: Don't wait for the rental.
    Eliza Madrigal: there was a lot not good about it, but it was also wonderful
    Bruce Mowbray: Then I shall definitely make the journey....
    Eliza Madrigal: some cannot follow the plotlines...
    Eliza Madrigal: and indeed it is twisty
    Eliza Madrigal: and woven
    Bruce Mowbray: There are at least four of them -- plotlines, I mean ...
    Eliza Madrigal: my son did okay
    Korel Laloix: I did not like the Lord of the Rings movies... but they were wonderful to see on a big screen.
    Eliza Madrigal: there is often something to appreciate, but sometimes takes an angle shift
    Korel Laloix: I will probably try and go see Cloud Atlas if Reeba is up for it.
    Bruce Mowbray: I think it takes a special sort of intelligence to follow four different plotlines simultaneously.
    Eliza Madrigal: I came away feeling the film was very meaningful and interesting that they were able to play with these insights
    Eliza Madrigal: and like it was a bunch of films in one
    Eliza Madrigal: but I can't disagree with criticisms either
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: "Lincoln" is worth seeing too... if one doesn't mind teachy films :)
    Korel Laloix: I have been told by more than one person that "Vampire Hunter" was better and more thought provoking than the Lincoln film....
    Korel Laloix: But then again, a lot of my friends consider him a genocidal psychopath.
    Bruce Mowbray: He did have bouts of depression. . .
    Korel Laloix: And mass murder.
    Eliza Madrigal: melancholia...
    Bruce Mowbray: Yeah, possibly bi-polar.... before that condition had been named.
    Korel Laloix: And genocide.
    Korel Laloix: And warmongering.
    Korel Laloix: etc.
    Eliza Madrigal: well interestingly the film didn't gloss over the idea that he might have ended the war sooner than he did
    Bruce Mowbray: Hiya, Zon!
    Eliza Madrigal: though generally the view was that of Team of Rivals
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Zon :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: HI Zon
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Zon Kwan: hi wise ones
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: In vino veritas -- but sophia, not not so much!
    Zon Kwan: which film eliza ?


    Bruce Mowbray: How has the "dropping" theme gone this week? New insights and/or experiences?
    Eliza Madrigal: "Lincoln," Zon
    Zon Kwan: new film ?
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: it is well done but a bit teachy :)
    Eliza Madrigal: enjoyed reading this morning's session... breathe in/breathe out (dropping/filling)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, we were talking about recent films -- and "Cloud Atlas" and "Lincoln" were both mentioned.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello Aph ^^
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Aph!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: How is everyone?
    Eliza Madrigal: fairly well aph, you?
    Korel Laloix: Tipsy and hungry.
    Zon Kwan: hi aph
    Bruce Mowbray: EXCELLENT -- Ohio State just finished a perfect football season by beating Michigan!!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: smiles. could be better
    Eliza Madrigal: congrats Bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ty.
    Bruce Mowbray: (but I had little - if anything - to do with it).
    Bruce Mowbray: San! Hello!
    Eliza Madrigal: sorry to hear aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: nothing wrong with a little home team pride
    Santoshima Resident: hello Bruce and everyone :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi San :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi San
    Korel Laloix: So if I read you right Bruce, if Ohio State had ONLY beaten Michigan and lost all the other games, it still would have been a perfect season?
    Eliza Madrigal: you are so colorful today San ^^
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, this was the BIG GAME -- but OSU went 12-0 for the season . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: and this is only the sixth time in history for that!  A big deal for the brand new coach.
    Bruce Mowbray: How are you today, San?
    Zon Kwan: hi san
    Santoshima Resident: really well, thanks ~ just finished work, sun is shining
    Santoshima Resident: blue sky after days of raining
    Bruce Mowbray: AHHHH!  Great!
    Santoshima Resident: tea soon, all is well
    Santoshima Resident: you?
    Bruce Mowbray: happy happy happy!
    Korel Laloix: Happy Happy Joy Joy?
    Korel Laloix: Wish I had an animation for that one.
    Bruce Mowbray: Well, mine is just the passing happiness of a brief football victory -- not actually the "Joy" thing.
    Bruce Mowbray: Also sort of sad for the Michigan folks,
    Bruce Mowbray:  . . . who now have to go back home feeling "defeated...."
    Zon Kwan: happiness is in little things
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: which, of course, they are NOT really defeated. . . except in one teensy game.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, happiness in little things.
    Santoshima Resident: heard TafelmusiK last night, and am still on a sonic cloud from that
    Santoshima Resident: http://www.tafelmusik.org/media-room/galileo-project/galileo-overview
    Bruce Mowbray: (but I needed the lift....)
    Santoshima Resident: football just as good :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Oh my!
    Bruce Mowbray: "Music of the Spheres" . . .

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    Santoshima Resident: there's a little film clip i think in there
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, I am watching the video now....
    Bruce Mowbray: and listening -- It is heavenly!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: beautiful
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: hi Guys
    Santoshima Resident: hi Mick :)
    Zon Kwan: mickey!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick :)
    Mickorod Renard: hiya
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Mick
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hello
    Mickorod Renard: :) hello
    Bruce Mowbray: Was this a live concert, San?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Lukey :)
    Korel Laloix: What is that string instrument he is holding?
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Lukey!
    Lukey Woodget: Hi
    Santoshima Resident: a lute
    Zon Kwan: hi Lukey
    Korel Laloix looks it up
    Santoshima Resident: { thinking you mean the one held against the chest, Korel}
    Santoshima Resident: yes, live, Bruce
    Korel Laloix: Yes.
    Bruce Mowbray: Is that a lute -- or a mandolin?
    Korel Laloix: I think I can ID the rest from my music class.
    Santoshima Resident: lute
    Bruce Mowbray: http://www.tafelmusik.org/media-room/galileo-project/galileo-overview
    Bruce Mowbray: Lute it is!
    Zon Kwan: waves
    Santoshima Resident: ciao Zon
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Zon!
    Mickorod Renard: bye zon


    Eliza Madrigal waves to Zon
    Lukey Woodget: Mickorod
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Santoshima Resident: hi Lukey
    Santoshima Resident: gtsy
    Bruce Mowbray wonders where this concert was performed. . . .
    Santoshima Resident: that one, in Banff ~ the one I saw, in West Vancouver
    Bruce Mowbray: Wonderful, San!
    Lukey Woodget: you got a rat crawled up your bum Mickorod
    Lukey Woodget: between you and me
    Mickorod Renard: I feel like it too
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't see anything in their schedule until December 5th. . . on the website.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Raffi :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Raffi!
    Raffila Millgrove greets everyone.
    Santoshima Resident: greetings Raffi
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hello :)
    Lukey Woodget: hi Raff
    Mickorod Renard: hi raff
    Lukey Woodget: what we talking about today
    Bruce Mowbray ponders emptying himself of "noise" and "filling" himself with baroque chamber music....
    Bruce Mowbray: Emptying and filling, I think.
    Bruce Mowbray looks over at the schedule board....
    Lukey Woodget: what like eating and weeing
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Dropping and filling up?
    Korel Laloix: That really was not hard to listen to. Thanks... smiles
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: There are physiological manifestations, yes. . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: Fascinating - - - that to one person baroque music is heavenly - and to another it might be hard to listen to.....
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe we could share our best dropping techniques - one of mine is getting really lost in something for a while... a piece of music can do that
    Catrinamonblue Resident: walking in the woods
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, Eliza, and thanks for the suggestion and the example from your own experience.
    Korel Laloix: walking in an open field.
    Lukey Woodget: I like looking for mushrooms in the woods
    Lukey Woodget: its too cold now though
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Lukey Woodget: they have all gone
    Eliza Madrigal: :) love to spot the bright pink and orange ones
    Korel Laloix: Can you eat those?
    Eliza Madrigal: I don't.... but not sure :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I love staring at the Milky Way -- on a summer's night.... from the middle of the farm's field.
    Lukey Woodget: I don't know - mushrooms are very deadly
    Lukey Woodget: they kill you in 3 days if you get it wrong
    Korel Laloix: At least you get three days.
    Lukey Woodget: and by the time you know, it's too late
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: can't think of anything positive at the moment
    Bruce Mowbray: When I walked across America in 1977, I found a wilderness family in Idaho -- and we collected a whole lot of mushrooms and ate them. . .

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    Korel Laloix: Not read anything about fungus toxicology... might look that up.
    Bruce Mowbray: and I was SICK SICK SICK for three days afterward.
    Lukey Woodget: oh that sounds great fun
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, it was an interesting experience.
    Korel Laloix: Did you keep the recipes?
    Lukey Woodget: maybe it's just that you were not used to it
    Bruce Mowbray: But generally I really LOVE mushrooms.
    Bruce Mowbray: They were morels.
    Lukey Woodget: so many different types
    Bruce Mowbray: and we cooked them in butter..
    Eliza Madrigal: me too.. it is a nice 'idea' to forage
    Bruce Mowbray: absolutely delicious!
    Bruce Mowbray: I probably ate too many of them.
    Korel Laloix: The button mushrooms you get all the time that crow on horse poop are not very good.
    Lukey Woodget: i'm always foraging
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Korel Laloix: But there are great ones.
    Lukey Woodget: you can grow them at home
    Lukey Woodget: you can get spores on ebay
    Bruce Mowbray: Really?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: neat :)
    Lukey Woodget: it's not too hard - you just need the right humidity and temperature
    Bruce Mowbray: Mushrooms like darkness, right?
    Lukey Woodget: yes
    Korel Laloix: Never tried growing mushrooms.. might give it a go.
    Lukey Woodget: they grow in the dark
    Korel Laloix: http://thegreatmorel.com/index.shtml
    Lukey Woodget: you can get a lot of different types of spores
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes! Those are the ones we gathered - morels.
    Lukey Woodget: strange looking thing


    Lukey Woodget: I always wanted to try giant puff balls
    Lukey Woodget: but have not yet
    Lukey Woodget: I have had magic mushrooms
    Santoshima Resident: Paul Stamets interview is very interesting, but quite long, worth having a look some time >
    Lukey Woodget: they are really cool
    Santoshima Resident: http://www.ted.com/talks/paul_stamets_on_6_ways_mushrooms_can_save_the_world.html
    Santoshima Resident: and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xqdWPlramQ
    Mickorod Renard: I tried some once, they were funny, all the animals everywhere were shagging each other
    Lukey Woodget: TED is such a great channel
    Bruce Mowbray bookmarks the TED vid on 6 ways mushrooms can save the world.
    Lukey Woodget: mycelium is the biggest organism on earth i think?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Me- prefer truffles - especially on pasta!
    Eliza Madrigal: deep foraging
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he
    Santoshima Resident: :)
    Lukey Woodget: they are really expensive though
    Lukey Woodget: i never had truffles
    Eliza Madrigal: not if you have a good snout
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    Aphrodite Macbain: I met a truffle dog called Dick - he worked in Umbria and made a lot of money for his master.
    Santoshima Resident: true!
    Santoshima Resident: true, eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Three hundred MILES of mycelium!
    Aphrodite Macbain: they rarely use pigs any more- I gather they tend to eat the truffles
    Bruce Mowbray: Extended neurological membranes. . . .
    Lukey Woodget: people are so lost to the food machine we lose so much
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think I'll go outside and take advantage of dry weather.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye all
    Catrinamonblue Resident: bye Aph
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Aph - enjoy the day :)
    Lukey Woodget: is it sunny there
    Santoshima Resident: bye Aph
    Bruce Mowbray: Have a good time out there, Aph.
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes- between the clouds
    Mickorod Renard: bye aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks
    Korel Laloix: ciao
    Raffila Millgrove: bye Aphro
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lukey Woodget: she is going to look for mushrooms i bet
    Bruce Mowbray: ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: Best time for that is in the early spring.
    Eliza Madrigal: must be, Lukey
    Santoshima Resident: good day for it, like spring here
    Mickorod Renard: i saw lots on my lawn the other day
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
    Lukey Woodget: it's winter here
    Lukey Woodget: whipping up a storm
    Bruce Mowbray wishes he were in Vancouver. . . .
    Lukey Woodget: I love seeing things like that in the garden
    Eliza Madrigal: resources everywhere
    Santoshima Resident: yes
    Lukey Woodget: does anybody watch doomsday preppers on tv?
    Bruce Mowbray: The largest organism in the world is in eastern Oregon . . . (the TED vid says). . . .
    Bruce Mowbray: Tell us more, Lukey.
    Mickorod Renard: i cant be doin with weird stuff these days
    Eliza Madrigal: sound a little on edge Mick
    Lukey Woodget: it's people who prep for if there is a disaster
    Mickorod Renard: yea
    Lukey Woodget: its quite interesting
    Lukey Woodget: its on National Geographic
    Mickorod Renard: i wondered about stocking a few bags of rice
    Eliza Madrigal: will look for that ... probably a lot of people in the NE who will watch that show more closely now
    Eliza Madrigal: (New England, US)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: bye all
    Bruce Mowbray: I also have trouble with the apocalyptic mind-set. . . . but if you want to save your family, I can understand it.
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye Catrina :)
    Mickorod Renard: i wondered how long a supply i would need before everyone else was dead
    Lukey Woodget: well in Japan when that disaster struck the supermarket shelves where cleared in 3 days
    Eliza Madrigal: well how are you cooking the rice Mick?
    Santoshima Resident: bye Cat ~ take good care
    Raffila Millgrove: bye Catrina
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Cat!
    Mickorod Renard: i would stash some water too
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... Hurricane Andrew was the same... amazing even when time to prepare things run out fast
    Eliza Madrigal: we just don't realize
    Eliza Madrigal: how fragile it all is
    Eliza Madrigal: I look around and everything looks quite sturdy ...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Lukey Woodget: If the supply of goods broke down we would be just a few meals away from starving
    Raffila Millgrove waves goodbye to all. Have a great weekend everyone.
    Mickorod Renard: for sure
    Eliza Madrigal: Nice to see you Raffi
    Santoshima Resident: bye raffi
    Mickorod Renard: bye raff
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, Raffi!
    Eliza Madrigal: time for me to move on too actually
    Eliza Madrigal: but nice to see you all
    Bruce Mowbray: Good to see you, Eliza!
    Eliza Madrigal waves
    Mickorod Renard: bye Eliza
    Lukey Woodget: i'm off too -  be well all
    Mickorod Renard: bye Lukey
    Santoshima Resident: bye eliz`` and Lukey


    Santoshima Resident: and me
    Mickorod Renard: bye San
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye, san!
    Mickorod Renard: I should go too, I am not so well at the mom
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, it is time for my dinner.
    Bruce Mowbray: May you be well soon, Mick...
    Bruce Mowbray: and you be well too, Kori.
    Mickorod Renard: ty Bruce
    Mickorod Renard: bye B and K

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    Great speech by one of the makers of Cloud Atlas:
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