2012.11.26 07:00 - On hindsight and intuition

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    The Guardian for this meeting was szavanna Resident. The comments are by szavanna Resident.


    Arisia Vita: welcome Zen
    Arisia Vita: just in time :)
    szavanna Resident: hi welcome Zenji °͜°
    Zen Arado: Hi Sunji, Arji :)
    Zen Arado: Lizji
    Zen Arado: :)
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi
    szavanna Resident: Lizji °͜°
    Arisia Vita: the sun is playing with us today :)
    szavanna Resident: we haven't played this for a while °͜°
    szavanna Resident: so I decided to rez them °͜°
    Eliza Madrigal: nice!
    Arisia Vita: great!
    Zen Arado: don't hear anything
    szavanna Resident: I am on the case °͜°
    Arisia Vita: me either Zen, except for the music of their smiles....
    Eliza Madrigal: it looks like I am cooking...
    szavanna Resident: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: hear now
    szavanna Resident: ahh there you go
    Zen Arado: me too
    Arisia Vita: hope I am in sync :)
    Eliza Madrigal: gentle sounds
    szavanna Resident: yes you are Ari °͜°
    szavanna Resident: ops I see grass
    szavanna Resident: did someone change it?
    Zen Arado: Liz grassed us
    Eliza Madrigal: ^^
    Arisia Vita: Liz also graced us with her presence :)
    szavanna Resident: mmm so nice you could come Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: wow, pretty Sun...
    szavanna Resident: °͜°
    Arisia Vita: Soon, an essential Spring will sing life's music at my door And it will be an enormous symphonic moment Of renewed joy and soft strength That I might dance deliriously once more.
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    szavanna Resident: Oh I see we have a topic
    szavanna Resident: not really sure of the word
    szavanna Resident: I always forget what it means hmm °͜°
    Arisia Vita: looking at the past
    Arisia Vita: seeing what came before
    szavanna Resident: ohhh pretty colors °͜°
    Eliza Madrigal: yike, haha... didn't mean for all this to happen
    szavanna Resident: hehe np at all
    szavanna Resident puts midnight
    szavanna Resident: can u give me a few examples .... of hindsight
    Arisia Vita: for example, in hindsight I knew I should have made a different choice...
    szavanna Resident: may be you could put it in a sentence
    szavanna Resident: "looking back"
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    szavanna Resident: ok then I knew it well
    Arisia Vita: hindsight means now that I know what happened, I would have done this or that
    Eliza Madrigal: the cliche' phrase is "hindsight is 20/20"
    Eliza Madrigal: as though something is quite obvious but wasn't at the time
    Arisia Vita: ty Liz
    szavanna Resident: hmm ok
    Arisia Vita: normally it used when one regrets a choice
    szavanna Resident: yes
    Arisia Vita: wishes they had seen more clearly the consequences
    szavanna Resident: I just saw a video about intuition ....
    Arisia Vita: interesting
    szavanna Resident: that if we are open enough to it
    szavanna Resident: and listen to the feelings rather than logic
    szavanna Resident: we might find that automatically - we know what is the right choice
    Arisia Vita: "The supreme task of the physicist is to arrive at those universal elementary laws from which the cosmos can be built up by pure deduction. There is no logical path to these laws; only intuition, resting on sympathetic understanding of experience, can reach them." Albert Einstein
    szavanna Resident: may be its a question of being more aware
    szavanna Resident: hmm ty Ari °͜°
    Arisia Vita: yw
    szavanna Resident: "There is no logical path to these laws; only intuition,"
    Eliza Madrigal: well foresight and hindsight require time
    Arisia Vita: intuition is knowing without knowing how you know... :)
    Zen Arado: intuition is a concept too
    Zen Arado: who knows what it is?
    szavanna Resident: hmm don't look at me ;p
    Eliza Madrigal: in hindsight I can think of situations where I trusted what I thought was intuition...
    Arisia Vita: Feelings of certainty and conviction are *involuntary* mental sensations, not logical conclusions. Intuitions, gut feelings and hunches are neither right nor wrong but tentative ideas that must be submitted to empirical testing. If such testing isn't possible, then we must accept that any absolute stance is merely a personal vision, not a statement of fact.
    Eliza Madrigal: and it was a little wobbly, if I judge by consequences...
    Eliza Madrigal: but if I judge with wider perspective I can say it is all part of learning
    szavanna Resident: hmm
    Eliza Madrigal: so maybe my intuition was baby intuition? hehe
    szavanna Resident: it is very different ...to be in the moment .... or looking back ..and analysing ...
    Zen Arado: maybe if we could to place where we have no knowledge
    szavanna Resident: hehe °͜°
    Arisia Vita: what place is that Zen?
    Zen Arado: knowing takes us away from reality
    Zen Arado: like an hour old baby
    Eliza Madrigal: what if we can drop that - looking forward and back - then that is insight - intuition
    Eliza Madrigal: well babies need a lot of others looking out for them
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    szavanna Resident: °͜°
    Arisia Vita: they are completely dependent
    Zen Arado: ah but able to switch to that and back
    Eliza Madrigal: keeping the openness
    Zen Arado: yes
    szavanna Resident hears her "little ones" in the next room °͜°
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Arisia Vita: they are totally innocent, free of bias or prejudice, seeking only love
    szavanna Resident wonders of they are ;o) feeling like the house will collapse just now hehe
    Eliza Madrigal grins
    szavanna Resident: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: they do teach much... wisdom of little children..
    szavanna Resident: when we are young we tend to make quick decisions, later in life ....we tend to take long ...and consider all angles
    Arisia Vita: Your children are not your children. They are the sons and daughters of Life's longing for itself. They come through you but not from you, And though they are with you, yet they belong not to you. You may give them your love but not your thoughts. For they have their own thoughts. You may house their bodies but not their souls, For their souls dwell in the house of tomorrow, which you cannot visit, not even in your dreams. You may strive to be like them, but seek not to make them like you. - Kahlil Gibran
    Eliza Madrigal: that long deliberative process... I guess it is one of comparing and measuring...
    szavanna Resident: smiles ty Ari - I love Kahlil Gibran
    Zen Arado: maybe intuition is another story of how we come to know things
    Arisia Vita: so do I
    Zen Arado: but we just know inexplicably
    Eliza Madrigal: need both I feel...
    szavanna Resident: both?
    Zen Arado: it's all stories I think today
    szavanna Resident: what do you mean zenji
    Eliza Madrigal: intuition and judgment/experience/ having learned from 'hindsight'
    Zen Arado: all these explanations are just stories
    szavanna Resident: ah yes ok Liz
    szavanna Resident: hmm so are you implying that we talk lots and we say nothing?
    szavanna Resident: ;p
    Zen Arado: good stories maybe but stories
    szavanna Resident: smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: I like stories :)
    szavanna Resident: I love spending time with you .,...the words are secondary importance °͜°
    Zen Arado: we are all storytellers
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    szavanna Resident: hmm yes
    szavanna Resident: we keep telling our stories
    Eliza Madrigal: that's it... where the stories situate
    Eliza Madrigal: :) heart of lotus
    szavanna Resident: °͜°
    Eliza Madrigal: thank you Sunshine this was a lovely way to start the day
    Eliza Madrigal: have to go... am lunching :)
    szavanna Resident: yw Lizji ;))
    Arisia Vita: I second that Liz
    szavanna Resident: have fun and keep safe
    Zen Arado: Byee Eliza ;)
    szavanna Resident: big hug
    Zen Arado: getting dark here already
    Eliza Madrigal: :) ty ty hugs hugs hugs
    szavanna Resident: here its the opposite
    szavanna Resident: still very bright and warm
    szavanna Resident: its interesting what you say about stories Zenji
    Arisia Vita: I too must fly, but will carry the memory of this lovely time with me...be well and happy till we meet again my friends...
    szavanna Resident: take care Ari
    Arisia Vita: which will be soon I hope...
    szavanna Resident: great to see you again
    szavanna Resident: °͜°
    Arisia Vita: I feel the same
    Zen Arado: kk see you later Ari
    Arisia Vita: yes, later Zen
    szavanna Resident: hmm u always make me thinks twice Zenji ;p
    szavanna Resident: Just when I think ...I know something hehe
    Zen Arado: heh
    szavanna Resident: how is your meditation going?
    Zen Arado: Mira has left SL she says
    szavanna Resident: ah yes Liz told me
    Zen Arado: ok
    szavanna Resident: hmm I hope she will be back
    Zen Arado: she has transferred to Facebook :)
    szavanna Resident: to have some chats and fun times
    szavanna Resident: hehe
    szavanna Resident: hmmm FB is not my scene
    szavanna Resident: I do miss her
    szavanna Resident: and PP in general
    szavanna Resident: not sure what the fate of the sim is
    Zen Arado: yeh
    szavanna Resident: but its normal for things to change
    Zen Arado: she says she doesn't feel like going in SL since she moved to mebourne
    szavanna Resident: why ?
    szavanna Resident: it doesn't really change things...
    szavanna Resident: I thought
    szavanna Resident: is it a very different life for her?
    Zen Arado: don't know
    szavanna Resident: and how are you doing - all well?
    szavanna Resident: have you redone your gallery?
    Zen Arado: no...did a little building last night
    szavanna Resident: °͜°
    Zen Arado: don't know what to put there
    szavanna Resident: IM me if I can help
    szavanna Resident: are you still meditating?
    Zen Arado: it's more difficult to know what to build than to build
    szavanna Resident: true
    szavanna Resident: I usually look at other examples
    Zen Arado: not even sure I want a gellery again
    szavanna Resident: then my own idea starts to take shape
    szavanna Resident: hmm °͜°
    szavanna Resident: first you need to decide about that
    szavanna Resident: ;o)
    szavanna Resident: hmm so IM me if you wanna build things °͜°
    szavanna Resident: and need some help
    Zen Arado: yeh thanks
    Zen Arado: haven't much time with this writing
    szavanna Resident: ah yes
    Zen Arado: should be doing it now
    szavanna Resident: well focus on that then
    szavanna Resident: ;))
    Zen Arado: SL distraction
    Zen Arado: :)
    szavanna Resident: I go RL for a bit also
    szavanna Resident: yes lol
    Zen Arado: yeh better make my dinner
    szavanna Resident: enjoy dinner °͜°
    szavanna Resident: and happy writing °͜°
    Zen Arado: see you soon Sunji
    Zen Arado: byee ;)
    szavanna Resident: take care hugs
    szavanna Resident: ;))
    Zen Arado: hugs

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