2012.12.23 19:00 - Scents of Money, Time, and Travel

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Aphrodite Macbain: evening Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi, good evening Aphrodite !
    Aphrodite Macbain: how are you tonight?
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm rather well :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: what are your plans for the holidays?
    Calvino Rabeni: Had a dinner party yesterday (here), and another on the 26th
    Calvino Rabeni: and just doing some organizing projects
    Calvino Rabeni: nothing too traditional
    Calvino Rabeni: how about you ?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Right now I'm still markig papers
    Calvino Rabeni: marking them, as in, what a teacher does?
    Aphrodite Macbain: yup - 15 of them on the Iternet
    Catrinamonblue Resident: 's current display-name is "Catrinamonblue".
    Calvino Rabeni: oh that's interesting, how did you get involved with it?
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Cat, good evening
    Catrinamonblue Resident: good evening :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: sorry have to go
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi / bye, Cat
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's the course I teach on line on community building
    Calvino Rabeni: is it for online or local community building?
    Aphrodite Macbain: on line- I teach people all over the English speaking world who are working in an arts organization
    Aphrodite Macbain: or cultura organization like libraries, archives, museums, galleries
    Calvino Rabeni: is it part of a network of such groups?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I teach for a University
    Aphrodite Macbain: who offers a certificate in Cultural Resource Management
    Aphrodite Macbain: I offer one of their courses; some are on line some are at the University
    Calvino Rabeni: that sounds really worthwhile
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope so
    --BELL--

    Aphrodite Macbain: I guess everyone is either shopping or partying
    Calvino Rabeni: often they seem to show up around 7:30
    Calvino Rabeni: its been that way a while
    Aphrodite Macbain: eithr tired from shopping or finished partying
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm interested in the online community building "space" .. wonder if you could tell me a bit more
    Calvino Rabeni: it seems like its really evolving steadily
    Aphrodite Macbain: It is a program called Moodle
    Calvino Rabeni: I know lots of little centers of it
    Calvino Rabeni: and thought leaders
    Aphrodite Macbain: all my study notes and texts to read are there
    Calvino Rabeni: Moodle, yes a content management system customized for education
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: exactly
    Calvino Rabeni: sort of learning management ... open source
    Aphrodite Macbain: I dont know if it's open source
    Calvino Rabeni: I think it is ... possible to install it on hosting services easily
    Calvino Rabeni: but they you still need to learn it
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's better than the one I had before. It collates all the marks and does all the math
    Calvino Rabeni: very handy
    Aphrodite Macbain: It's great b/c I give all my texts to the university and they download it
    Calvino Rabeni: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: including audio/video stuff
    Aphrodite Macbain: we can also lie chat if we want
    Aphrodite Macbain: live
    Calvino Rabeni: its been a couple of years since I looked at it
    Calvino Rabeni: live, not "lie"
    Aphrodite Macbain: Have you used it?
    Calvino Rabeni: not seriously no, I think I installed it once and started reading all the tech docs
    Calvino Rabeni: but didn't do anything real with it
    Calvino Rabeni: I was exploring different technical platforms
    Aphrodite Macbain: wow. why? Would you be able to use it in some way or are you just curious like the ?s over your head indicte
    Calvino Rabeni: Because I'm interested in the two fields, online communities and content management, and educational innovation is one place they meet
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    Calvino Rabeni: I try to explore the systems and the thought leaders
    Aphrodite Macbain: who are some leaders in online communities?
    Calvino Rabeni: but there are so many it's not really possible to be thorough
    Calvino Rabeni: oh well let's see ..
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have tried to persuade the tech dept at the university to include SL in their teaching tools. I would love to bring a class of mine into SL
    Aphrodite Macbain: at one of the universities here
    Calvino Rabeni: What comes to mind are Margaret Wheatley, George Por, Michel Bauwens, Robert Stilger, .. just ones I've come across
    Aphrodite Macbain: If I could justify it...
    Calvino Rabeni: I follow various social network sites where the talk is happening
    --BELL--

    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks. so much - I'll google them
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am curious about the process of creating and SUSTAINING an on line community.
    Calvino Rabeni: One good source is Scoop.it (for news and articles), and Quora (for discussion and analysis)
    Aphrodite Macbain: it as in Italy?
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it is the domain for italy but people register in it just because they want a certain internet name
    Calvino Rabeni: Here
    Calvino Rabeni: I can give you a link that directly addresses your question
    Calvino Rabeni: (but I think it requires site registration)
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh so many are accessible through that site
    Calvino Rabeni: https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-either-as-an-instructor-or-learner-build-and-sustain-a-community-of-learners-in-an-online-class
    Calvino Rabeni: "How do you, either as an instructor or learner, build and sustain a community of learners in an online class?"
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks!
    Calvino Rabeni: It actually works pretty well - the ability to ask a direct focused question on something like that and to find useful responses
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have to sign in - and answer questions. Smart idea
    Calvino Rabeni: there's a mix of interest and social web there
    Calvino Rabeni: so i found you can find an interesting topic, then find who is into it, then follow them and who they know
    Calvino Rabeni: guaranteeing a certain quality by doing that
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods. Now all I need is time...
    Calvino Rabeni: most sites don't mix social and interest as effectively
    Calvino Rabeni: hah :)
    Calvino Rabeni: yes !
    Aphrodite Macbain: I have to mark 2 more papers before the day is done so must say goodbye
    Calvino Rabeni: no web site can tell you, really - "we will save you lots of time"
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening - good talking to you
    Aphrodite Macbain: I am trying to spend LESS time on the Internet
    Aphrodite Macbain: see you tomorrow Cal. good talking to you too
    Paradise Tennant: hiya aph ..hiya cal ;)) happy holidays
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Paradise !
    Calvino Rabeni: Happy marking and dreaming, Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: thanks!
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Paradise
    Aphrodite Macbain: Have you seen Wol yet?
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves happy dreamtime .if I don't see you . .have a great xmas
    Paradise Tennant: no we are doing lunch one day after xmas :)
    Paradise Tennant: I think maybe in little italy :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: grins
    Aphrodite Macbain: awww
    Aphrodite Macbain: wish I could join you!
    Paradise Tennant: yes!!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: byeee
    Paradise Tennant: that would be fun !
    Paradise Tennant: byeeeeee
    Calvino Rabeni:  sounds pleasant / exciting to be able to meet in RL though
    Paradise Tennant: yes I have mets quite a few of my sl friends in rl
    Paradise Tennant: always struck by how even though the package may be a bit different they are the person you know :)
    --BELL--

    Calvino Rabeni: it seems there is a certain essence of a person that manifests bodily and actually in any other thing they touch in a significant way
    Paradise Tennant: yes their isness :))
    Calvino Rabeni: brb tea kettle is singing
    Paradise Tennant: ok hops up to put mine on too
    Calvino Rabeni has returned with green tea in hand
    Paradise Tennant: making mint tea ..
    Paradise Tennant: like it at night :))
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: shall we talk of isness or this week's theme ? solitude ?
    Calvino Rabeni reads the board over there
    Calvino Rabeni: Last week - "The Effect of Language on Imagination" - I wonder how that one played out?
    Calvino Rabeni: This week - "Solitude and Loneliness" - inspired by Alone Together
    Calvino Rabeni: I think that was by Stephen Batchelor?
    Paradise Tennant: hmm not sure googling
    Calvino Rabeni: I don't know it, the theme was touched well by Rilke, John ODonohue, and David Whyte
    Paradise Tennant: looks good putting it in my shoppin cart :))
    --BELL--

    Paradise Tennant: Confession of a Buddhist Atheist by Stephen
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.amazon.com/Alone-Others-Existential-Approach-ebook/dp/B005R18BA8/
    Paradise Tennant: he has 3 engaging books out
    Calvino Rabeni: that's Alone with Others
    Calvino Rabeni: then there
    Paradise Tennant: Martin Heidegger's classic Being and Time
    Paradise Tennant: this is one I have not read either ..
    Calvino Rabeni: is Sherry Turkle, http://www.amazon.com/Alone-Together-Expect-Technology-Other/dp/0465031463/
    Calvino Rabeni: more of a technology critic (not a Buddhist)
    Calvino Rabeni: but she was making the rounds of On Being with Krista Tippett
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.onbeing.org/
    Calvino Rabeni: I think I *tried* reading Being and Time one time :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles at you ...that was a great link ..
    Calvino Rabeni: :) ty
    Paradise Tennant: there are virtual spots that just have treasure really .. only way to decribe them like walking into a brain candy stoire
    Calvino Rabeni: hehe :)
    Calvino Rabeni: indeed
    Paradise Tennant: I have booked between xmas and new years' off so am accumulating a nice stack of books to read :))
    Calvino Rabeni: I wonder what it would be like if Heidegger were writing in a present-day blogger style
    Paradise Tennant: such a luxury to be albe to just lie about and read
    Calvino Rabeni: yes it seems like more of a luxury than online reading and web surfing, even when one has ample time ... I wonder why that is
    Calvino Rabeni: books are calming
    Calvino Rabeni: they don't push, cajole, tempt
    Paradise Tennant: I like the smell of them :))
    Calvino Rabeni: yes they all smell a bit different
    Paradise Tennant: no ads pop up
    Calvino Rabeni: I must have good ad blockers, I don't see many popups
    Calvino Rabeni: there's a design movement called the Slow Web Movement ...
    Paradise Tennant: I think old books smell the best .. like buying second books .. reading peoples little notes in the margins seeing their name on the inside cover page and wondering who they were
    Calvino Rabeni: it will be great if they figure out how to get that feeling of book reading into our online activities
    Calvino Rabeni: oh ... tempted .. /me goes to find the oldest book nearby
    Calvino Rabeni: 1951 ... The Rise of Scientific Philosophy ...not bad, smells calming if a bit dusty
    Calvino Rabeni: 1930 ... a bit more depth ... it was a very good year... 1908 - Shakespeare, The Tragedy of MacBeth, ahhh.
    Paradise Tennant: ok now my turn
    Calvino Rabeni: :)

    --BELL--
    Paradise Tennant: The lock and key Library Classic Mystery and Detective Stories by Julian Hawthorne .. 1909 has my grandfarther's name in it :))
    Paradise Tennant: Have one from 1958 :)) too
    Paradise Tennant: smells like .. time gone by :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I actually like the smell of United States paper money ... will not be happy if they convert to plastic like some other countries have
    Calvino Rabeni: I forget what Canadian money is printed on .. haven't had it for a while
    Paradise Tennant: lol hmm goes to her wallet don't think I have ever actually smelled money
    Calvino Rabeni: There's a lot about near life that we don't know :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps a blind man could tell the difference between different denominations by smell ..
    Calvino Rabeni: or your canine friend :)
    Paradise Tennant: hmmm smells like old books
    Paradise Tennant: always amazed at the mental processing of my canine friend he is very shrewd
    Calvino Rabeni: sometimes the book ink isn't so good on new printing ... it is raw and takes time to season
    Calvino Rabeni: actually I've lucked out buying used books
    Calvino Rabeni: only occasionally getting one from a smoker's house
    Calvino Rabeni: Recently got one with a strong signature of cannabis, but it was the seller, not the book owner, because the scent was only on the cover where it had been picked up (and it soon faded)
    Paradise Tennant: we are on plastic now
    Paradise Tennant: a polymer sbstrate :_)
    Calvino Rabeni: and the plastic smells good too?
    Calvino Rabeni: I wonder if they add "money smell" to the formula
    Paradise Tennant: lol don't have any right now only paper bills but I will give it a sniff for you in the future :)
    Calvino Rabeni: yes ... might be a good idea to keep some of the old issue around... for olfactory purposes
    Paradise Tennant: I sometimes like to smell blue's paws :))
    Paradise Tennant: if he has been to the beach they smell like sand and seaweed
    Paradise Tennant: if to the park there are grass notes :))
    Paradise Tennant: always a story there
    Paradise Tennant: if you were going to pick one or two of the books we cruised tonight which would be your first choices ??
    Calvino Rabeni: dogs must share their entire recent histories with each other through their noses
    Calvino Rabeni: hmm
    Paradise Tennant: yes they do peemail !!!!
    Paradise Tennant: a full form of correspondence which is rich in information and totally authentic
    Calvino Rabeni: yes, they do ... other animals do it too, insects, plants
    Calvino Rabeni: dogs have mail stations
    Calvino Rabeni: While I think about that last question, would you like to see David Whyte on solitude?
    Paradise Tennant: sure
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.panhala.net/archive/the_winter_of_listening.html

    --BELL--
    Paradise Tennant: that was beautiful loved the poem loved the picture ..
    Paradise Tennant: when blue was younger we would snowshoe
    Calvino Rabeni: that is a great web site .. every picture and poem of high quality
    Calvino Rabeni: dog snow shoes?
    Paradise Tennant: sometimes coming on scenes which were perfectly undisturbed
    Paradise Tennant: no he would leap about
    Paradise Tennant: and grind his face in the snow out sheer joy
    Calvino Rabeni: that would have been fun
    Paradise Tennant: it would cake on and he would end up with a little face helmet he could not see out of and start bouncing off the trees
    Calvino Rabeni: not trying to paw it off
    Paradise Tennant: would have to stop take off my mitts and dig out his eyes have some pics of it somehwere
    Calvino Rabeni: oh he has longish hair
    Calvino Rabeni: ?
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Calvino Rabeni: no complaints I suppose, from Blue?
    Paradise Tennant: nope
    Paradise Tennant: would just keep going and do it all over again does it in sand too
    Paradise Tennant: on my profile there is a sand face pic
    Calvino Rabeni: hmm, where would I take a dog in the city?
    Calvino Rabeni: ...
    Calvino Rabeni: ...
    Calvino Rabeni: .. Farmer's Market
    Calvino Rabeni: yes that should do nicely
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Paradise Tennant: yep that would be a good choice particularly the sausage stall :)
    Calvino Rabeni: yes and the cheese stalls ... (stilton is a favorite)
    Calvino Rabeni: SF had an ice cream store that would give free scoops to dogs
    Calvino Rabeni: oh hmm, more online now.  Here we go --  "bringfido.com"
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.bringfido.com/restaurant/city/seattle_wa_us/
    Calvino Rabeni: one can narrow it down to Greek restaurants, if fido has tastes
    Calvino Rabeni: but most dogs will like nearly anything
    Paradise Tennant: that is brillant we do a lot of patio dining here
    Paradise Tennant: love it in europe where they just walk in the door but toronto is pretty dog friendly most of the places I spend money admit blue :))
    Paradise Tennant: books stores .. small neighbour hood shopes
    Calvino Rabeni: This would be closer - http://www.bringfido.com/restaurant/section/search/?type=&term=Toronto%2C+ON%2C+CA
    Calvino Rabeni: ah ... dinner calls ... my nose leads me forth
    Calvino Rabeni: have a good night ... dream well
    Calvino Rabeni: you and Blue
    Paradise Tennant: http://www.pawsway.ca/en/About/Discovery
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite cal
    Calvino Rabeni: thanks
    Calvino Rabeni: nite :)
    Paradise Tennant: thanks for the links :)) and happy holidays :)
    Calvino Rabeni: And to you too ... bye

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