2013.03.03 19:00 - Desert Caravan

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The lack of comments is by Calvino Rabeni.

    Calvino Rabeni: Hello druth, cat, and long time no see, Achmage :)
    druth Vlodovic: hi guys
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Cal, Arch :)
    druth Vlodovic: it's been an age arch, gtsy
    druth Vlodovic: hi korel
    Calvino Rabeni: good evening Korel
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Korel
    Korel Laloix: Hyea
    Korel Laloix: What did I interupt?
    Calvino Rabeni stretches and yawns whilst looking half awake
    Calvino Rabeni: Perhaps a groggy feeling, Korel :)
    Korel Laloix: So I woke you up ?.. that can be a good thing.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Korel Laloix: I could so use a nap.
    Calvino Rabeni feels the same today
    Calvino Rabeni: been busy, Korel?
    Korel Laloix: Silly busy.
    Korel Laloix: Moved.
    Korel Laloix: Start a new job Monday.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Aph
    Calvino Rabeni: oi
    druth Vlodovic: hey aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Cat. Hi everyone
    Korel Laloix: Figuring out my new familiy situation.
    Aphrodite Macbain: oi?
    Aphrodite Macbain: is that an aussie word?
    Calvino Rabeni: havent heard it here
    Calvino Rabeni: do you have "oi" or "oy" where you live?
    Archmage Atlantis: oy vey
    druth Vlodovic: what are you going to be doing korel?
    Archmage Atlantis: se us
    Calvino Rabeni: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/oy
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hear someone
    Aphrodite Macbain: someone's mic is on
    Archmage Atlantis: mine i think
    Calvino Rabeni: if they were yawning it would be me :)
    Archmage Atlantis: sorry
    Aphrodite Macbain: what time is it there Cal?
    druth Vlodovic: what was your seminar like this weekend aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh it was wonderful
    Korel Laloix: I wil be doing epidemiology reports as my primary job.
    Archmage Atlantis: I have not been well enough to be here in while
    Korel Laloix: But doing actual testing when not doing the reporting.
    Calvino Rabeni: 2:14 pm, and how bout that job and seminar ? :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: we were on Bowen Island about 60 miles from Vancouver
    Calvino Rabeni: sorry Arch to hear it

    Aphrodite Macbain: 3 conversations :-)
    Archmage Atlantis: sorry will work on it later
    Calvino Rabeni: Did anyone catch anything at the seminar, Aph?
    Aphrodite Macbain: catch?
    Aphrodite Macbain: as in flu?
    Calvino Rabeni: a viral idea perhaps .. an infectious laugh?
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: no
    Aphrodite Macbain: but we threw around a lot of good ideas
    Catrinamonblue Resident: sounds intersting
    Aphrodite Macbain: we were talking about the book, The Swerve"
    Aphrodite Macbain: just got a pulitzer prize
    Aphrodite Macbain: it is about the rediscovery of a poem called The Nature of things"
    Aphrodite Macbain: written in the 1st century bc
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.amazon.com/The-Swerve-World-Became-Modern/dp/0393343405/
    Aphrodite Macbain: thank you :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: we discussed both the poem and the book
    Calvino Rabeni: and that poem ... was it influential at the time?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Ewan
    Ewan Bonham: Hello friends..
    druth Vlodovic: hi ew
    Aphrodite Macbain: No but it was speaking about an earlier Greek philosopher who challenged the notion of a providential god, who said there was no afterlife, who said that we should enjoy life here on earth and said the world was made up of atoms and space
    Aphrodite Macbain: in the 3rd c bc
    Calvino Rabeni: Quote

    Nearly six hundred years ago, a short, genial, cannily alert man in his late thirties took a very old manuscript off a library shelf, saw with excitement what he had discovered, and ordered that it be copied. That book was the last surviving manuscript of an ancient Roman philosophical epic, On the Nature of Things, by Lucretius—a beautiful poem of the most dangerous ideas: that the universe functioned without the aid of gods, that religious fear was damaging to human life, and that matter was made up of very small particles in eternal motion, colliding and swerving in new directions.
    -- Publisher's Description

    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: we make a good pair of performers Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: ... unquote :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: laughs
    Aphrodite Macbain: yup
    Aphrodite Macbain: we had a great discussion
    Santoshima Resident: hello
    Aphrodite Macbain: the poem itself is really beautiful
    Calvino Rabeni: I am interested in that .. a great discussion ... about an ancient manuscript
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi San
    druth Vlodovic: a lot of what we think is new is really human isn't it?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi San, Hi Ewan
    druth Vlodovic: hey san
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi San and Ewan
    Aphrodite Macbain: what we think is new is really old and has been thought of before
    Aphrodite Macbain: but the time wasn't right
    Aphrodite Macbain: the church suppressed
    Aphrodite Macbain: it
    druth Vlodovic: the time is never right :)
    druth Vlodovic: truth makes control harder
    druth Vlodovic: sorry, what was the discussion like?
    Santoshima Resident: who was the cannily alert, genial man?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Poggio
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bracciolini
    Aphrodite Macbain: a collector of latin books in the 15th century
    Ewan Bonham: Am I just missing some of the chat?
    Santoshima Resident: see Calvino Rabeni ^, just before San arrived
    Aphrodite Macbain: I sent him the text
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: we discussed it in the afternoon, during dinner , after dinner and all morning
    Aphrodite Macbain: Met some interesting people
    Aphrodite Macbain: It was organized by the Graduate Liberal studies program of Simon Fraser Un
    Santoshima Resident: who is "we"?
    Aphrodite Macbain: the students and alumni and friends of same
    Santoshima Resident: a course?
    Santoshima Resident: ah, ty
    Aphrodite Macbain: a 3-year program
    Aphrodite Macbain: people are pushing me to sign up
    Catrinamonblue Resident: sounds interesting
    Catrinamonblue Resident: why not?

    Santoshima Resident: oh, well something to consider
    Aphrodite Macbain: It would be a lot of reading- at least 3 hrs a day
    Aphrodite Macbain: whispers- I still hear someone
    Aphrodite Macbain: Cal - what time is it there?
    druth Vlodovic: everyone start singing a different song, and we'll identify it
    Calvino Rabeni: 2:30 pm
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh. not so bad
    Aphrodite Macbain: now i hear squeeks
    Santoshima Resident: as for sounds, there are green indicators over you, Aph
    Santoshima Resident: and Cal
    Santoshima Resident: in case you actually want to know
    Aphrodite Macbain: I just sang a song
    druth Vlodovic: I missed it :(
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: for [19:32] druth Vlodovic: everyone start singing a different song, and we'll identify it
    druth Vlodovic: are you going to join?
    Aphrodite Macbain: OMG
    Santoshima Resident: ditto, had the dsoudn turned down due to excruciating noices coming through
    Aphrodite Macbain: someone is doing terrible things to their mic
    Ewan Bonham: I must excuse myself...thank yo folks..:)
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye Ewan
    druth Vlodovic: have fun ewan
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Bye Ewan
    Aphrodite Macbain: are you sick Korel?
    druth Vlodovic: aph can sing safely now
    Aphrodite Macbain: did you say?
    druth Vlodovic: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: lalalal
    Aphrodite Macbain: waves at stevenaia
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Steve :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: stevenaia you are missing your lower legs
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Santoshima Resident: how about that 500 year old aforementioned manuscript?
    stevenaia Michinaga: i have legs
    druth Vlodovic: hi half of 'naia
    stevenaia Michinaga: my better half?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: you look completely here to me :)
    druth Vlodovic: certainly :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: ty Cat
    Catrinamonblue Resident: We make a smiley face :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: she is sitting down
    Catrinamonblue Resident: in the mini map :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: lol
    druth Vlodovic: you completed our left eye
    Santoshima Resident: am waiting for the day when it becomes fashionable here to use the pronoun combo "s/he"
    druth Vlodovic: 'e
    druth Vlodovic: and hissr
    Santoshima Resident: in te meanqwhile can someone speak about the ancient manuscript discovered by the genial fellow?
    stevenaia Michinaga: (s)he
    Santoshima Resident: or sheshh
    Calvino Rabeni: Yes Aph, "we" want to hear about the genial fellow :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: manuscript?
    Santoshima Resident: he paradise
    Santoshima Resident: we do!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Hi Para
    Santoshima Resident: hi
    Calvino Rabeni: Or about the three year course based on it :)
    druth Vlodovic: sheesh seems most appropriate in the current circumstance
    Santoshima Resident: hi paradise
    Calvino Rabeni: that you might sign up for
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves all round
    druth Vlodovic: DON'T LOOK AT HER!
    Aphrodite Macbain: ??
    druth Vlodovic: we're having a hard enough time as it is
    Aphrodite Macbain: the 3 year course is a dgraduate degree in liberal studies designed for people who work
    Catrinamonblue Resident: http://www.amazon.ca/The-Swerve-World-Became-Modern/dp/0393064476
    Catrinamonblue Resident: the book we are talking about
    Santoshima Resident: on to the manuscript, please?
    Santoshima Resident: http://www.amazon.ca/Penguin-Classics-Nature-Things-Lucretius/dp/0140447962
    Aphrodite Macbain: students get an overview of the writings from Greece and Rome
    Aphrodite Macbain: up to the 20th century
    Catrinamonblue Resident: that sounds really neat Aph

    Aphrodite Macbain: and occasionally seminars are organized like the one this weekend that non students can attend.
    Calvino Rabeni: There must be some excitement in it, yes?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: I supose it depends if you are interested in the subject matter
    Aphrodite Macbain: we were a very lively group
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: they are going to print up a summary of the event . I'll send you the link
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: with photo!
    Catrinamonblue Resident: awesome!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Paradise
    Catrinamonblue Resident: gtg night all
    Aphrodite Macbain: nite Cat
    stevenaia Michinaga: night cat
    Calvino Rabeni: nitey night
    stevenaia Michinaga: so is this class remote or in a classroom?
    Aphrodite Macbain: in a classroom
    Calvino Rabeni: "radical" :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: every wednedsday night
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: there are about 30 people per "cohort"
    Aphrodite Macbain: time to un pack
    Aphrodite Macbain: and feed the cats
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye
    stevenaia Michinaga: night
    Aphrodite Macbain: and goodnight
    Calvino Rabeni: Bye Aph good night
    druth Vlodovic: ok
    druth Vlodovic: "hi para"
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite aph
    Calvino Rabeni: How are the Arabian NIghts, Paradise?
    Paradise Tennant: smiles finished it a while ago and then read caliph's house :)) both are excellent
    druth Vlodovic: g2g, have fun all
    stevenaia Michinaga: night druth
    Santoshima Resident: salut
    Calvino Rabeni: the author's father is regarded as a Sufi teacher, is there some of that in the book too?
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite druth
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: alot of his dad's wisdom is now his have added his dad's books to my reading list
    Calvino Rabeni: that's good to hear about it carrying forward
    Paradise Tennant: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahir_Shah
    Paradise Tennant: this is the author ..

    stevenaia Michinaga: i must be off, looks interesting Para
    stevenaia Michinaga: night
    Santoshima Resident: so long stevie
    Calvino Rabeni: I ordered it .. used for$ 0.01
    Calvino Rabeni: Good night Steveniai
    Paradise Tennant: nite nite stev sweet dreams scritch to fubu
    Santoshima Resident: excellent bargain hunting, cal
    Calvino Rabeni: ex-library :)
    Calvino Rabeni: I think they get more intelligent with use, rather than getting depleted
    Calvino Rabeni: I won't get it until I get back to the US though
    Calvino Rabeni: It called to mind and older book, by Murat Yagan, do you know him?
    Calvino Rabeni: a memoir
    Santoshima Resident: that name is very familiar ... will look up
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.amazon.com/I-Come-Behind-Kaf-Mountain/dp/0939660083/
    Paradise Tennant: smiles thanks cal :)) ahh the instant gratifications of a kindle
    Calvino Rabeni: Emigrated from Afghanistan to Canadaabout 30 years ago
    Calvino Rabeni: kindle magic
    Santoshima Resident: ohh, this is a book someone recommended to me, many years ago ... and this is a reminder that I have still not read it
    Calvino Rabeni: its a good read
    Calvino Rabeni: instructive look into a vanished culture, plus some adventure and mystery
    Calvino Rabeni: one of those true stories that reads like a novel
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Paradise Tennant: life as fiction :)
    Paradise Tennant: has a ring to it

    Paradise Tennant: smiles well I should scoot .. another day in the mines tomorrow :))) night all :) sweet dreams .. safe travels cal :)))
    Santoshima Resident: good night
    Calvino Rabeni: thanks Paradise ..
    Paradise Tennant: namaste my friends :))
    Calvino Rabeni: be careful in those mines
    Calvino Rabeni: and dream well
    Paradise Tennant: smiles sleepily :)) maybe of a moonlit desert and caravans :)))
    Calvino Rabeni: good breeze
    Calvino Rabeni: I will say goodnight too
    Calvino Rabeni: and to Korel



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