2016.12.01 13:00 - Heart Sutra: Self-Disappearing, Appearing, Sounds of Sunshine, Memories, and French

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Eliza Madrigal. The comments are by Eliza Madrigal, who had a bit of difficulty 'settling down' today, in a session that began with a surprise group of French avatars gathered in Bleu's beautiful stone garden (filling up with honored expressions), and included a visit from Sunshine after I reached out to her hoping for a language rescue. :)

    Bruce recapped his talk from last week, but with a different kind of feeling, that then sparked many disappearing associations. Nice offerings and personal stories today, even admist the chaos of unexpected events. ^.^


    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bruce, how's your french?
    Bruce Mowbray: Oui?
    Eliza Madrigal: the gathering over there is in French and mostly voice
    Bruce Mowbray: Not so good. Terrible, in fact.
    Eliza Madrigal: so I haven't been able to introduce us well... hah... okay... I did send an email to the group
    Bruce Mowbray ponders "over there."
    Eliza Madrigal: at the exhibit
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh!
    Bruce Mowbray: "Paris c'est une gran ville?"
    Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
    Bruce Mowbray: Aggers!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha!

    Eliza Madrigal: And I see Bleu... wow brilliant
    Eliza Madrigal: How is your French, ladies?
    Agatha Macbeth: Pourquoi?
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleuji
    Eliza Madrigal: the avies at the stones are french
    Bruce Mowbray: Bon jour, Bleu.
    Agatha Macbeth: Wait, Bruce is a lady? :p
    Eliza Madrigal: Bleu! Manifique!
    Bleu Oleander: hi y'all and Aggers!


    Eliza Madrigal: I already asked Bruce...
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Eliza Madrigal: and I know my French is inadequate
    Bleu Oleander: Je ne parle pas :(
    Bruce Mowbray: I've been known to be "diverse" in my day, aggers.
    Eliza Madrigal: :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Heheh
    Agatha Macbeth: Diversity is the spice of life eh
    Eliza Madrigal: Bruce, do you mean to have one arm?
    Visitor 1: hi
    Eliza Madrigal: Hello [visitors]
    Agatha Macbeth: Sit down Liz you make the place look untidy
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Tura
    Bruce Mowbray: Bonjour!
    Tura Brezoianu: hi all
    visitor 1: Hello everyone
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Tura.
    Bleu Oleander: hi :)


    Eventually we discover some know quite a bit of English...

    Bruce Mowbray: Bonjour, Cat!
    Eliza Madrigal: Hiya Cat
    benit Capalini: Excuse us, we come here every day at the same time
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, that's wonderful
    visitor 1: take a bath
    Bleu Oleander: nice!
    Eliza Madrigal: :P
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi everyone :)
    Bleu Oleander: we need some bubbles for you!
    Eliza Madrigal: Cat, how's your french? I'd love to be able to give a better intro to our guests....
    Agatha Macbeth: Hiya Cat :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, your english is OK really
    visitor 3: lol sorry for my friends, they are nuts :o
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Eliza Madrigal: feel free to float...
    Bleu Oleander: :D
    Catrinamonblue Resident: lol sorry I lost what little french I had
    Bruce Mowbray: Ohio, alas.
    Eliza Madrigal smiles at Cat
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm in England
    Bruce Mowbray: but I LOVE LOVE LOVE France - especially Paris.
    Agatha Macbeth: Aphie :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Agatha
    visitor3: everybody loves Paris.... except french people x)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Aggers!


    Bleu Oleander: hey Aph ... we're having a party
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Aph.
    Eliza Madrigal: oops, Aph
    Aphrodite Macbain: yayy
    Aphrodite Macbain: I love parties
    visitor 3: does we bother you ? :x
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Bleu Oleander: not at all ... pull up a cushion :)
    Eliza Madrigal: no bother... we have a session at this time, discussing topics, but you're welcome to be here
    visitor 3, but that's okay, I love floating in the air x)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello Bleu, Eliz, Tura
    Agatha Macbeth: It takes about half an hour to work out the poses tho
    Bleu Oleander: :P
    Bruce Mowbray: Norman invasion?
    Bleu Oleander: you're just pose challenged :P
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Cat
    Aphrodite Macbain: and Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Aph :)

    Aphrodite Macbain: and you strange visitors
    Eliza Madrigal: Where is Zen...
    Bruce Mowbray: Bonjour, APh.
    visitor 3: lol we are not stranges, but strangers x)
    Aphrodite Macbain: true
    Agatha Macbeth: Strangers in a strange land
    visitor 3: at least i'm not strange.... can't talk about those two :p
    Eliza Madrigal: :) hah
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    visitor 5: hello

    Eliza Madrigal: wondering about the symbolism of carrying around a leek?
    Bleu Oleander: hello!
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps he's Welsh
    Eliza Madrigal giggles
    Bleu Oleander: wiki leeks
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Agatha Macbeth: Da iawn
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) soup?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I think you three have drunk too much coffee
    visitor 3: wiki leeks lol
    Bruce Mowbray looks for coffee....
    visitor 3: I hate coffee :o
    Aphrodite Macbain: fabulous outfit Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: I might need more for this session!
    visitor 3: we are leaving
    Bleu Oleander: ty Aph!
    visitor 3: have a nice evening, guys ^^
    Aphrodite Macbain: byee
    Bruce Mowbray: Bye for now.
    Aphrodite Macbain: take care
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh... thanks for visiting
    visitor 3: you too ^^
    Agatha Macbeth: Au revoir
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Bleu Oleander: au revoir :)
    Bruce Mowbray: THAT was fun.
    Eliza Madrigal: funny...
    Eliza Madrigal: I was trying to hook in Savanna

    Aphrodite Macbain: I think they're going to dance amid the stones
    Bleu Oleander: nice
    Agatha Macbeth: Well that got things off to an ineresting start
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: for sure, it did.
    Bleu Oleander: feeling energized
    Aphrodite Macbain: woke me up
    Eliza Madrigal: they've been there a while, I like that feeling
    Bleu Oleander: maybe they should come to all our session lol


    Agatha Macbeth: Remind me again what we are talking about?
    Bruce Mowbray: Heart Sutra?
    Eliza Madrigal: Yes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah
    Aphrodite Macbain: how do we keep open
    Agatha Macbeth: Sutra self
    Bruce Mowbray nods.
    Eliza Madrigal: Forgive me... had IMed Sunshine and so am letting her know she dosen't need to come if not confident with her french :)) she's in the middle of something else

    Agatha Macbeth: Oh we're nothing if not open
    Aphrodite Macbain: moi, je parle francais
    Bleu Oleander: what is open anyway?
    Bruce Mowbray: Ouvre?
    Aphrodite Macbain: not closed
    Aphrodite Macbain: ouvert
    Bruce Mowbray: ouvrez le port?
    Agatha Macbeth: Pas fermé a clef
    Bleu Oleander: ok what is closed ...
    Tura Brezoianu: I wasn't feeling at all open about our visitors
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Agatha Macbeth: Not open :p
    Bruce Mowbray loved the leek.
    Aphrodite Macbain: great pun
    Eliza Madrigal: me too :))
    Bleu Oleander: :P
    Eliza Madrigal: >whew<
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth ponders a leek in the pool
    Bruce Mowbray: OK.
    Eliza Madrigal: are you ready?

    Bruce Mowbray: Very briefly, then:
    Bleu Oleander: lol Aggers
    Aphrodite Macbain: leeking pool?

    Actually beginning...

    Bruce Mowbray: I went into a long discourse - monologue - last week
    Bruce Mowbray: about the mantra.
    Bleu Oleander: I read the session Bruce, nice
    Bruce Mowbray: (or that my typist uses.)
    Agatha Macbeth: Discourses are good
    Bruce Mowbray: The one that I use in rl.
    Eliza Madrigal: very nice discourse
    Aphrodite Macbain: of course

    Last week2016.11.24 13:00 - Heart Sutra: Mantras & Meditation, Discipline & Effortlessness

    Bruce Mowbray: Perhaps there are just two notable things about what I said last week:
    Bruce Mowbray: one is that there is "no effort" if the mantra is to be used properly,
    Bruce Mowbray: and the second is
    Bruce Mowbray: that the mantra is a bit like a Cheshire cat....
    Bruce Mowbray: it is self-disappearing.
    Aphrodite Macbain: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Any questions?

    Eliza Madrigal: nice phrase, self-disappearing
    Agatha Macbeth: But the smile remains
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Bleu Oleander: :D
    Agatha Macbeth: See
    Bruce Mowbray smiles.
    Aphrodite Macbain: )
    Agatha Macbeth listens for more

    Tura Brezoianu: can you expand on "self-disappearing"



    Bruce Mowbray: The mantra is first sub-vocal...
    Bruce Mowbray: not actually spoken.
    Bruce Mowbray: Then it gets more and more subtle.

    Eliza Madrigal: one moment bruce... sun wants to hear... so hold on....
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay

    Bruce Mowbray: (less and less "effort" is concentrated on it.)
    Bruce Mowbray: It eventually disappears.
    Bruce Mowbray: But when the mind wanders,
    Bruce Mowbray: as will almost always happen,
    Bruce Mowbray: It means stress is being relieved,
    Bruce Mowbray: it is regarded as a good sign.
    Bruce Mowbray: and what's required then
    Bruce Mowbray: is simply returning to the mantra as a sort of "axis" oor centering point...
    Bruce Mowbray: which becomes subtler and subtler until it disappears again.

    Bruce Mowbray: OK?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)

    Bruce Mowbray: sry, I didn't see what you wrote....
    Eliza Madrigal: that's fine, I can IM her when she arrives...
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, ty.

    Eliza Madrigal: beautiful description
    Bruce Mowbray: So, let's not focus on me so much.
    Bruce Mowbray: What is YOUR experience?
    Eliza Madrigal: Did someone do the homework?


    Sunji and the elephants...

    Agatha Macbeth: Sunji ♥
    Bleu Oleander: Sunji :)
    Eliza Madrigal: Sunshine <3
    Bruce Mowbray: HEYA, Sun-ji!!!
    Aphrodite Macbain: sun!
    Bruce Mowbray: 
    szavanna Resident: ( sneaks in ❤ )
    Bruce Mowbray: 
    szavanna Resident: hugss :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Here comes the Sun...
    Catrinamonblue Resident: hi Sun so good to see you :)
    Bruce Mowbray: THAT is ELEPHANTASTIC!
    Bruce Mowbray: _____
    Bruce Mowbray: / 0 \____
    Bruce Mowbray: / _ \__/ \
    Bruce Mowbray: / / \ ____ I \
    Bruce Mowbray: /_/ I I I I
    Bruce Mowbray: I__I I__I
    Bruce Mowbray: 
    szavanna Resident: buuuu :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: This is .... ELEPHANTASTIC !!
    Agatha Macbeth: _____
    Agatha Macbeth: / 0 \____
    Agatha Macbeth: / _ \__/ \
    Agatha Macbeth: / / \ ____ I \
    Agatha Macbeth: /_/ I I I I
    Agatha Macbeth: I__I I__I
    szavanna Resident: This is .... ELEPHANTASTIC !!
    szavanna Resident: _____
    szavanna Resident: / 0 \____
    szavanna Resident: / _ \__/ \
    szavanna Resident: / / \ ____ I \
    szavanna Resident: /_/ I I I I
    szavanna Resident: I__I I__I
    szavanna Resident: Catrina :))
    Bruce Mowbray: THAT is ELEPHANTASTIC!
    Bruce Mowbray: _____
    Bruce Mowbray: / 0 \____
    Bruce Mowbray: / _ \__/ \
    Bruce Mowbray: / / \ ____ I \
    Bruce Mowbray: /_/ I I I I
    Bruce Mowbray: I__I I__I
    Bleu Oleander: that's the tiny cushion Sunji
    szavanna Resident giggles
    Eliza Madrigal smiles

    Agatha Macbeth: I'm always doing that
    szavanna Resident: but its next to Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: it took a group of french people to get sunshine here....
    szavanna Resident: hehe
    Bruce Mowbray: First it was the French; now it's the elephants.
    Eliza Madrigal: ((aw)))
    Agatha Macbeth: Nous sommes du soleil
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: we are sun?
    szavanna Resident: hugs Liz, Tura, Bleu, Aph, Bruce, Aga, Catrina :) please carry on

    Eliza Madrigal: actually Sunshine mentioned mantras just as you recapped your talk Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: One could do worse than being the sun.
    szavanna Resident: nods :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Sun is good.
    Bruce Mowbray listens for more from Sun.
    Eliza Madrigal sings, don't be so all alone...
    szavanna Resident sings one love one hearttt
    Bruce Mowbray: Marley!



    Eliza Madrigal: we've been talking about heart sutra for the last few weeks, Sun... and are sort of winding down now...
    szavanna Resident: oh I was telling Liz about ra ma da sa
    Agatha Macbeth: Jacob?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes! Listening
    Eliza Madrigal: sikh? sufi?

    szavanna Resident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYivP3gedCo
    szavanna Resident: sikh I think
    Catrinamonblue Resident: oh that is lovely!!!!!!
    Eliza Madrigal: oooh yes she's beautiful
    szavanna Resident: https://www.3ho.org/kundalini-yoga/m...e-healing-tool
    szavanna Resident: I don't usually know what it is - I just like it
    szavanna Resident: aw Bruce crashed?
    Eliza Madrigal: we overwhelmed him with our excitement

    Agatha Macbeth: Kaur is a Sikh name yes
    szavanna Resident: I restarted my little India corner
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    szavanna Resident: yes
    szavanna Resident: and so there I played Snatam Kaur all day
    szavanna Resident: it has really special vibe
    Eliza Madrigal: peaceful
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: you can hear the 'disappearing' quality Bruce mentioned
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: or maybe feel is a better word

    szavanna Resident:
    Ra - Sun
    Ma - Moon
    Daa - Earth
    Saa - Impersonal Infinity
    Saa Say - Totality of Infinity
    So - Personal sense of merger and identity
    Hung - The infinite, vibrating and real.


    szavanna Resident: ( so nice to see you guys :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Innit?
    Bleu Oleander: ((( Sunji )))
    szavanna Resident: yamaaaan
    Eliza Madrigal: Have you met Tura, Sunshine? Sunshine, Tura?
    szavanna Resident: (((BLeujiiiiii )))))))
    Catrinamonblue Resident: thank you Sun for coming :) this is so lovely :)
    Agatha Macbeth: The heart of the Sun
    szavanna Resident: hi Tura :)
    Tura Brezoianu: hi Sun!
    Eliza Madrigal: Tura is our newest guardian, and also very artistic...
    szavanna Resident: oo I love surprise visits
    szavanna Resident smiles and waves to Tura
    Eliza Madrigal: Welcome back Bruce!
    Bleu Oleander: we have missed your Sunji-ness !!
    szavanna Resident: ooo there is mr Mowbray
    Agatha Macbeth: buu
    Agatha Macbeth: WB Brucie
    szavanna Resident: oo I am never gone just all over the place
    Eliza Madrigal: (will send Bruce the meaning of the mantra Sun shared)
    Bruce Mowbray: Sry. My internet connection became a cheshire cat...
    szavanna Resident: ty Liz :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: A Suntra
    Eliza Madrigal smiles @ Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth also smiles @ Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: Thank you, Eliza.

    Eliza Madrigal: I want to ask, did anyone practice the Heart Sutra, or the mantra at the end? homework?


    Catrinamonblue Resident: I didn't do the homework per say but have put together a few thoughts of my own. A bit late into the discussion
    Agatha Macbeth: Better late than never Cat
    Bruce Mowbray loves Sun's suggestion that we merge our so-called "selves" with all that is.
    Agatha Macbeth: ^.^
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :) it's going to copy paste bare with me :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)


    Catrinamonblue Resident: I have not studied this as much as others have, these notes are just my small observations.
    Agatha Macbeth bares with cat
    Bruce Mowbray listens/reads carefully.

    Catrinamonblue Resident: I found the following version on youtube
    Catrinamonblue Resident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUzz...LoA9E9gNLQtvoe
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Sanskrit sounds very poetic in this one. I did listen to others, English and Sanskrit both.

    Catrinamonblue Resident: When you let go of everything you are there is only emptiness but because you are empty so empty is you. For me feels along the line of "go with the flow"
    Catrinamonblue Resident: To go with the flow does not mean no action for action must happen but that the action will flow naturally from the emptiness that you are. Trying to force action causes suffering.

    Catrinamonblue Resident: When i was very sick about 3.5 years ago I was in the hospital for 5 days. During those days other life altering things were happening and I was too sick to do anything about it, I could only sit by and wait. Something in me changed during those days, and in the weeks that followed. Something deep and profound that I have no words for. Since that time i have been more inclined to wait and go with the flow, and there have been some wonderful and amazing things happen in the time since.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: done

    Aphrodite Macbain: claPS
    Agatha Macbeth: Imee Ooi
    Eliza Madrigal: mmm, me too... very profound Cat

    Agatha Macbeth: Something similar happened to moi too
    Eliza Madrigal: so you think it was a time of sort of replenishing ? not being able to act?
    Bruce Mowbray: Physical illness can be a great doorway - gate.
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure was
    Catrinamonblue Resident: being forced to inaction showed me that inaction can be more powerful? than action
    Aphrodite Macbain: A CHANGE OF STATES
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops
    Aphrodite Macbain: sorry
    Agatha Macbeth rubs her ear
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Agatha
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    szavanna Resident: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: quite Tao.... "nature does nothing yet leaves nothing undone..."
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :) yes
    szavanna Resident: mm nice
    Eliza Madrigal: and Lonchenpa... who "nothing, but everything arises from it."
    Agatha Macbeth: Woo for wu wei
    szavanna Resident: ponders it
    Bruce Mowbray: Nothing is lacking and nothing is in excess.

    Agatha on the bridge

    Eliza Madrigal: Agatha your time in hospital was creative too?
    Aphrodite Macbain: hospital?
    Agatha Macbeth: Not so much creative as boring as hell
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm not good at stillness at the best of times
    Catrinamonblue Resident: that too :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I need to be doing something
    szavanna Resident: me three
    Agatha Macbeth: But it did change me yes
    Bruce Mowbray: Ever since my hospitalization of five years ago, I've felt absolutely no fear of death whatsoever.
    Bruce Mowbray listens for more from aggers.
    Aphrodite Macbain: how aggers?
    szavanna Resident: really Bruce
    szavanna Resident: how so?
    Bruce Mowbray: aggers?

    Agatha Macbeth: Kind of a Gandalf on the bridge thing
    Agatha Macbeth: Where the balrog 'kills' him
    Agatha Macbeth: And then he reappears later
    Agatha Macbeth: It's him but he's different
    Agatha Macbeth: Not Grey but White
    Aphrodite Macbain: transformation
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Kind of a rebirth
    Aphrodite Macbain: laws of physics

    Aphrodite Macbain: we dont disappear we change
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Tell that to Bruce! :p
    Eliza Madrigal: alchemy
    Agatha Macbeth: He's doing a Cheshire cat on us
    szavanna Resident: oo where is he
    Eliza Madrigal just got a notice from another group on the topic of wu wei :P
    Agatha Macbeth: The vanishing Mowbray
    szavanna Resident: ah crashed
    szavanna Resident: while I was googling Gandalf
    Eliza Madrigal: he is having flickering issues
    Eliza Madrigal smiles at Sunshine


    Aphrodite Macbain: the dividing line is permeable
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe the squirrels got at his router
    Eliza Madrigal: what do you mean Aph?
    szavanna Resident: Bruce is pretty amazing :)
    szavanna Resident: but don't tell him
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: there is no think wall between states
    Agatha Macbeth: He is
    Aphrodite Macbain: thick!
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: understood, Aph, agree...

    Catrinamonblue Resident: I like no think wall too :)
    Agatha Macbeth ponders a think wall
    Eliza Madrigal: it is a good typo!
    Aphrodite Macbain: we still retain some part of ourselves
    Aphrodite Macbain: wn Bruce
    Eliza Madrigal: (((Brucie))))
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe there should be one around Washington now :p
    Agatha Macbeth: WB Brucie
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he
    szavanna Resident: wb Brucie :)
    Bruce Mowbray: ty.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I prefer a falling brick wall on Washington

    Dividing Lines, Grids and Servers

    Bruce Mowbray curses internet server.
    Aphrodite Macbain: we thought you were being a cheshire cat Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: I'm amazed it works as well it does way out there
    szavanna Resident: I am building a new grid - so I would say this is normal
    Aphrodite Macbain: out where?
    Agatha Macbeth: In the country
    szavanna Resident: or Africa :D
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah in Bruces world
    Agatha Macbeth: Brucie's monastery

    Eliza Madrigal has to pause youtube because the mantras are so beautiful I get caught up
    szavanna Resident: :)
    szavanna Resident: me too Liz :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes I'm still listening too!
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: same
    szavanna Resident: aw :)
    Eliza Madrigal: changes the atmosphere of the entire house
    Agatha Macbeth: Makes up for not having a stream here
    Aphrodite Macbain: relaxes everything
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I actually practice mantras and chants a lot, but not much with singing.... should do more
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh dear
    szavanna Resident: aw again
    Eliza Madrigal: aw Bruce
    szavanna Resident: yes good idea
    Agatha Macbeth: Wish Edie would do some more for us
    Eliza Madrigal: there is a Tara mantra Eden sings so beautifully

    szavanna Resident: I think it should be part of normal life
    Agatha Macbeth: Snap
    Eliza Madrigal: ! yes
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was...

    szavanna Resident: I keep exploring what sound does to us
    szavanna Resident: and how it affects daily life
    Agatha Macbeth: Need to know what 'normal' life is first tho
    szavanna Resident: giggles
    Eliza Madrigal: sound is some 'thing' but fleeting
    szavanna Resident: I suppose I mean - my life

    Eliza Madrigal: what have you discovered?
    szavanna Resident: like now these matras affected you
    Aphrodite Macbain: sound...not necessarily music...affects me physically and emotionally
    szavanna Resident: everyone felt really relaxed
    Agatha Macbeth: Right, me too
    Aphrodite Macbain: ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
    Catrinamonblue Resident: nods :)
    szavanna Resident: yes I don't mean only music
    szavanna Resident: anything your ear hears
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    szavanna Resident: sat naaaaam
    Aphrodite Macbain: but making the sound yourself is wonderful


    Eliza Madrigal: 'truth is my name'
    Aphrodite Macbain: it vibratyes
    szavanna Resident: yes I think so
    Agatha Macbeth: Sat naaaav
    Aphrodite Macbain: vibrates the whole body
    szavanna Resident: you become part of the big vibration

    Catrinamonblue Resident: yesterday I received a dvd copy of old home movies from when I was very little, Heard the sound of my grandparents voices for the first time in over 20 years,,,, affected me greatly
    szavanna Resident: :) yes
    Eliza Madrigal: ohhh
    Agatha Macbeth: Lord
    szavanna Resident: aw
    Catrinamonblue Resident: my Papa and Nana :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: tones of voice...yes
    szavanna Resident: wow
    szavanna Resident: how did you feel?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I cried a lot, happy and sad and pain and joy
    szavanna Resident: aw ♥
    szavanna Resident: see how it affects us

    Eliza Madrigal: keeping the heart open
    szavanna Resident: really deeply sometimes
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods

    Aphrodite Macbain: It can be frightening though
    szavanna Resident: i like to explore it because sound is universal so it applies to everyone and everything
    Eliza Madrigal: frightening?
    Catrinamonblue Resident: yes :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: unearthing unfamiliar feelings
    szavanna Resident: it can
    szavanna Resident: aw missed the bell
    Eliza Madrigal: and silence... the other side of the song
    szavanna Resident: :)

    Agatha Macbeth: Bleuji is very quiet
    szavanna Resident: she is
    Bleu Oleander: listening :P
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: she's immersed in thought
    Bleu Oleander: a lost art these days
    Aphrodite Macbain: listening? yes
    Bleu Oleander: yes

    Agatha Macbeth: Aww it finished
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Eliza Madrigal: such funny energy today... starting with our french visitors, haha...
    Aphrodite Macbain: yayy
    szavanna Resident: weeeee
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Return of the Bruce
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: but I'm so glad it has been like this... a little wild :)

    Itsy Bitsy Spider

    Agatha Macbeth: Remember that spider
    Eliza Madrigal: and musical
    Agatha Macbeth: buu
    szavanna Resident: :))
    szavanna Resident: buuu
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: lol
    Eliza Madrigal laughs
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    szavanna Resident: spider?
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
    Agatha Macbeth: Robert Bruce's spider
    Aphrodite Macbain: insy winsy?
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Never gave up
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    Agatha Macbeth: His web kept crashing too
    Eliza Madrigal: badum bump
    Bruce Mowbray ponders crashing webs.
    Aphrodite Macbain: even though it can feel meaningless, we continue to spin

    Bruce Mowbray wonders what he's missed.
    Catrinamonblue Resident: sound :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Sound and silence
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    szavanna Resident: we were listening
    szavanna Resident: sound of silence
    Aphrodite Macbain: silence and trickling water
    Bruce Mowbray: Did you continue the theme of the Heart Sutra?
    Eliza Madrigal: well... perhaps we should discuss next week... and whether to move on from this topic into a new one? switch gears?
    Agatha Macbeth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
    Eliza Madrigal: in a way, Bruce... quite profoundly I think when everyone begins to share personal experiences
    Bruce Mowbray: kk, thank you.
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: your phrase self-disappearing is fruitful :))


    Aphrodite Macbain: I find saying mantras are difficult for me. I tend to slow down and stop. I find it easier to just pay attention to my breath. It requires less effort.
    szavanna Resident: ty Agaji
    Agatha Macbeth: YW!
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdB-8eLEW8g
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do others feel this way?
    Eliza Madrigal: what about listening, Aph?
    szavanna Resident: aw Brucie :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Which way?
    Agatha Macbeth looks up
    Eliza Madrigal: I really love mantras.... I feel like doing them gives time, in a weird way
    Aphrodite Macbain: 3:54] Aph (aphrodite.macbain): I find saying mantras are difficult for me. I tend to slow down and stop. I find it easier to just pay attention to my breath. It requires less effort.

    Bruce Mowbray: The breath, mantra, perhaps a visual image, ...
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh right Aphie, agree
    Aphrodite Macbain: a mandala?
    Bruce Mowbray: all can be part of it...
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I'm not comfortable to say mantras but find listening to the ones on you tube help me to open up
    Aphrodite Macbain: but why do more when you can do less?
    Eliza Madrigal: but they're quite different practices... I rarely do mantras on meditation cushion, etc. that might just be me
    szavanna Resident: its very different
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh? when do you do mantras Eliza?
    Bruce Mowbray: Whatever serves to return the balance....
    Agatha Macbeth: You could do them lying in bed Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: hm, depends on various things... used to do them in the morning... or for a while, Fridays
    Eliza Madrigal: I change too much :)

    Catrinamonblue Resident: i did use the heart sutra i found for helping to fall asleep :)
    szavanna Resident: mantras appear everywhere in the world I think .... a repetition of a certain word or words
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Bruce Mowbray: Mantras -- or tonglen -- are wonderful for falling to sleep.
    szavanna Resident: it is beautiful
    szavanna Resident: the heart sutra
    Aphrodite Macbain: the words must just become sounds when repeated often enough
    Bruce Mowbray nods, agrees with Sun.
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: there is some idea of primary syllables
    Eliza Madrigal: like primary colors
    Aphrodite Macbain: oh?
    szavanna Resident: in Africa they appear in ceremonies or songs
    Aphrodite Macbain: certain sounds Sun?
    szavanna Resident: hmm not sure haven't really researched it
    Eliza Madrigal: everything arising out of Ohm... but perhaps in every corner of the world there are representative sounds...


    Agatha Macbeth: Ohm's law
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sun - I hope you can come to our Solstice celebration and lead us in a sound
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooh there's a solstice?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Dec 18
    Agatha Macbeth: We need to call the druids
    Eliza Madrigal points toward monolith garden...
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: we will be dancing there

    Bruce Mowbray: In a way, mantra meditation is like solstice --- in that it is a sort of retreat into our inner reservoirs of wisdom and strength.
    Aphrodite Macbain: and Zen will bring music
    Agatha Macbeth: W00t
    Aphrodite Macbain: lots of drumming
    Eliza Madrigal: such a nice parallel Bruce
    szavanna Resident: oh so 18th Dec
    Aphrodite Macbain: yes
    Aphrodite Macbain: 1pm I think
    Bruce Mowbray: ty, Eliza.
    szavanna Resident: oh I think I will be by the ocean
    Aphrodite Macbain: agrees with Eliza
    szavanna Resident: sighs
    Agatha Macbeth: The ocean?
    szavanna Resident: yes a few days holiday
    Eliza Madrigal: how lovely
    Aphrodite Macbain: I hope you can come Sun - and herald the return of your namesake
    Bleu Oleander: would love to be by the ocean :)
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    szavanna Resident: I put you in my pocket Bleuji
    Agatha Macbeth: Sol Invictus
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-)
    Bruce Mowbray is pretty sure that the sun will be returning -- and hopes for Sun, as well.
    Bleu Oleander: ty ty :)
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: me too
    Agatha Macbeth: The Sun also rises
    Aphrodite Macbain: Dec 18 at 1pm slt
    Bruce Mowbray also rises --- to be scraping up supper.
    Aphrodite Macbain: wear your best druid garb
    szavanna Resident: aw so I think I can't come
    Catrinamonblue Resident: Happy eating Bruce :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: aww
    Bruce Mowbray: THANK you everyone.
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-(
    szavanna Resident: bon appetitos :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Scrape well Brucie
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks Bruce, so much
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye Bruce
    szavanna Resident: scrape well hehe :)
    Bleu Oleander: must go too
    Agatha Macbeth: TC bleuji
    Eliza Madrigal: Bye quiet Bleu
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: nice to listen ... and see you all
    Agatha Macbeth: And Aphie
    Aphrodite Macbain: bye bye Bleu
    Catrinamonblue Resident: I must be going too :)
    Eliza Madrigal: And Aph :)
    Tura Brezoianu: see you
    Agatha Macbeth: buu
    szavanna Resident: hugs all
    Eliza Madrigal: And Cat :) thank you
    Aphrodite Macbain: he he
    szavanna Resident: buuuuu
    Catrinamonblue Resident: :)
    szavanna Resident: so nice to see you
    Agatha Macbeth: And Cat ^.^
    Bleu Oleander: bye bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: buuu to yuuuu
    szavanna Resident: smiles and waves
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Tura, quiet too :))
    szavanna Resident: byebyee Tura :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Tura
    Tura Brezoianu: bye all

    Agatha Macbeth: She was enjoying the silence
    Eliza Madrigal: we were a bit chaotic today, hha
    Eliza Madrigal: or rather I was
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    szavanna Resident: hehe
    Agatha Macbeth: Nothing new for our Liz :p
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: fun though.... I wonder if our french visitors actually do come every day...
    Agatha Macbeth: At least you weren't catching turkeys this week
    Eliza Madrigal: and how they learned about us
    szavanna Resident: they just appeared here?
    Agatha Macbeth: The French connection
    Eliza Madrigal: we don't have a counter to see, I don't think
    Eliza Madrigal: yes
    szavanna Resident: out of the blue?
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: at first I thought they might be from the french classes
    Eliza Madrigal: yes, out of the blue :D
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: You can get things on MP to record who comes and goes
    Eliza Madrigal: I think Storm used to have that
    szavanna Resident: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Might be an intersesting exercise
    Eliza Madrigal: but we've been bereft of visitors
    Eliza Madrigal: so it hasn't come up before
    Agatha Macbeth: (Can't type that word!)

    szavanna Resident: so there is PaB land and then there is nothing?
    szavanna Resident: I see green everywhere
    Eliza Madrigal: oh?
    Eliza Madrigal: what are your settings?
    Agatha Macbeth: Lots of green
    szavanna Resident: 360
    Eliza Madrigal: bleu and San made a hud...
    Eliza Madrigal: lots to see... and on the 900 level etc
    Agatha Macbeth: And always those people standing AFK up north

    Building a Grid

    szavanna Resident: Iam building my own grid
    szavanna Resident: so I am learning the inner workings of sims
    Eliza Madrigal: and the retreat house that still bears your, and sophiasharon's signature :)
    szavanna Resident: :)
    szavanna Resident: yay
    Eliza Madrigal: how is that going?
    szavanna Resident: oh it is going well
    Agatha Macbeth: Glad about that
    szavanna Resident: I am gathering all materials that is needed for a grid
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: such as? :))
    Agatha Macbeth: Sunworld?
    Eliza Madrigal: a grid? lollol
    szavanna Resident: hmm like scripts, objects, clothes
    szavanna Resident: yes yesss
    szavanna Resident: everything you see here
    szavanna Resident: I need to have it there
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I see... it must be self contained
    Agatha Macbeth: How big will it be?
    szavanna Resident: hmm I made 4 sims
    szavanna Resident: as a start
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Agatha Macbeth: Daboom mk II
    szavanna Resident: and will arrange a meeting with the peeps on the hypergrid
    szavanna Resident: once ready
    Eliza Madrigal: well you have a big place in SL don't you?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah those peeps
    Eliza Madrigal: that's a lot to manage
    szavanna Resident: yes hyper peeps
    szavanna Resident: at the moment I do
    szavanna Resident: but not sure for how long
    Agatha Macbeth: Well you can't do worse than LL eh

    Eliza Madrigal: you are transforming...moving energies :))
    szavanna Resident: hehe
    szavanna Resident: hmm 3D worlds are becoming normal
    szavanna Resident: everyone will have one
    Agatha Macbeth: Talk about living in a world of your own
    Eliza Madrigal may be left upon the shore
    szavanna Resident: I want to experiment using it for all sorts of things
    szavanna Resident: like sound experiments even
    szavanna Resident: or therapy
    Agatha Macbeth: Good idea
    Eliza Madrigal: yes!
    szavanna Resident: creative projects
    Eliza Madrigal: look at the difference in feelings listening to the mantras
    szavanna Resident: :) it will be like MS word
    szavanna Resident: everyone can have one
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    szavanna Resident: yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Except it will work :p
    szavanna Resident: hehe no it won't
    Eliza Madrigal: but hm, don't want to be an ms word to myself
    szavanna Resident: its so buggy
    szavanna Resident: :D
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww

    szavanna Resident: so the idea is
    Agatha Macbeth: Just like M$ then
    szavanna Resident: that anyone can set up a grid
    szavanna Resident: and this grid is connected to the hypergrid
    szavanna Resident: like the internet is a collection of websites
    szavanna Resident: hypergrid is the collection of grids
    Eliza Madrigal: can move through, with an occulus>?
    szavanna Resident: hmm you can use that or just use like now
    szavanna Resident: there are about 300 grids
    szavanna Resident: on the hypergrid at the moment
    Eliza Madrigal: I've noticed VAI having meetings outside of SL
    szavanna Resident: ah really
    szavanna Resident: yes there is a non profit grid
    Eliza Madrigal nods... so perhaps moving faster than I realize
    szavanna Resident: that has events also
    Eliza Madrigal: ah
    szavanna Resident: its just a natural evolution of grids
    szavanna Resident: I think :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: makes sense actually
    Eliza Madrigal: change is healthy
    szavanna Resident: and it started actually when SL started
    szavanna Resident: been around for 10 years
    szavanna Resident: I didn't know about it
    Agatha Macbeth: My my
    Eliza Madrigal: I think adelene and threedee were doing that also... but not sure if still

    Eliza Madrigal: (another mantra... from an experimental beatle... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNGnIKUdMI)
    szavanna Resident: some peeps have had their grids for so many years
    szavanna Resident: click
    Eliza Madrigal: inworldz, osgrid... what else....
    szavanna Resident: oo I listened to this recently
    Agatha Macbeth: Blue mars
    szavanna Resident: love it
    Eliza Madrigal: he brought Ravi to the rest of the beatles
    szavanna Resident: there is Frankogrid
    szavanna Resident: German grid
    Eliza Madrigal: frankogrid?
    Eliza Madrigal: ah
    szavanna Resident: yes
    szavanna Resident: Italian grid
    szavanna Resident: Canadian grid
    szavanna Resident: those are the big ones
    Eliza Madrigal: is there a list? or do people just share?
    Eliza Madrigal: well, I'd trust myself to your grid Sunshine :)
    szavanna Resident: http://www.hypergridbusiness.com/sta...ergrid-worlds/
    szavanna Resident: hehe

    szavanna Resident: I am still learning
    szavanna Resident: but getting there now
    Eliza Madrigal: nice, thank you!
    szavanna Resident: halleluyyaa
    Eliza Madrigal: like epcot
    Eliza Madrigal: haha...
    szavanna Resident: see it comes very naturally
    Agatha Macbeth: Epwho?
    szavanna Resident: the repetition
    Eliza Madrigal: want to go to japan...
    Agatha Macbeth: What now?
    Eliza Madrigal: seeing grid :)
    szavanna Resident: lets go
    szavanna Resident: ah there is Japan grid
    szavanna Resident: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: repetition is natural...like rocking a baby
    szavanna Resident: you see
    szavanna Resident: it is like ...heart beat
    szavanna Resident: may be
    Eliza Madrigal: mmmm
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: africa buddha...africa buddha... lol
    szavanna Resident: I just listened to AliG who said
    Agatha Macbeth: booyaka!

    szavanna Resident: heart beat is boring - why doesn't our heart play a rap beat
    szavanna Resident: :D
    Agatha Macbeth: Mine does
    szavanna Resident: booyakashaaaa
    szavanna Resident: oo really
    Eliza Madrigal: :) Mine has an extra beat, not supposed to be the best thing
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh? Aggers?
    szavanna Resident: grooves to Aga's heart
    Agatha Macbeth: Sure ain't regular
    szavanna Resident: extra beat?
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah....love that... grooving to Aggers heart....
    szavanna Resident: I have to listen to mine now
    Agatha Macbeth: No, just irregular
    Eliza Madrigal: they only pick up the extra beat during pregnancies or when I'm quite ill

    Agatha Macbeth: Blue rondo a la turk
    Eliza Madrigal: what is that?
    szavanna Resident: oo ok
    Agatha Macbeth: 11 beats to a bar :P
    Eliza Madrigal: ah :))
    szavanna Resident: the extra beat is not the baby's heart?
    Agatha Macbeth: Dave Brubeck
    szavanna Resident: :o)
    Eliza Madrigal has so much to learn
    szavanna Resident: sorry I am being silly
    szavanna Resident: :D
    Agatha Macbeth: You?
    szavanna Resident: nods
    szavanna Resident: I go silly after a while

    Eliza Madrigal: you are calm Sun :)
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: or at least you feel calm
    szavanna Resident: yes people say that sometimes
    Agatha Macbeth: Listening to all those mantras did it
    szavanna Resident: but I feel like a spider on the wall
    Eliza Madrigal: :) need to tune to sunshine more often
    szavanna Resident: they do work for me
    szavanna Resident: hehe you know my stream is always on
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Agatha Macbeth: Set the controls for the heart of the sun

    Eliza Madrigal: btw Aggers you look so cute today...
    Eliza Madrigal: I gave my daughter a pair of those earphones for her birthday, hah
    Agatha Macbeth: Don't I always? ;-)
    szavanna Resident: http://eu.ishout.net:2199/start/szavanna_resident_1/
    Agatha Macbeth: Nerdy moi
    Eliza Madrigal clicks and saves
    szavanna Resident: snatam is playing on our India stream
    szavanna Resident: earphones?
    szavanna Resident: yes but today especially cute
    Eliza Madrigal: see what aggers is wearing?
    Agatha Macbeth haz pink pussy earphones
    szavanna Resident: I see
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: And geeky glasses
    szavanna Resident: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: and vuvuzela
    Eliza Madrigal: never far
    szavanna Resident: really cute
    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Agatha Macbeth: The geeks shall inherit the Earth
    Agatha Macbeth: buu
    szavanna Resident: and vuvu
    Eliza Madrigal: I hate to go but have to....
    szavanna Resident: :o)
    szavanna Resident: aw yes I should go too
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm so happy to spend time with you ladies today
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't they cook for themselves?
    szavanna Resident: this was sooooo nice
    Eliza Madrigal: :) George needs me
    szavanna Resident: lol that would be so nice
    szavanna Resident: hugs to George
    Eliza Madrigal: :)) Ty
    Agatha Macbeth: Teach him to cook a bone or something
    Eliza Madrigal: ♥ ♥ ♥
    szavanna Resident: hehehe
    Agatha Macbeth: ♥
    Eliza Madrigal: he must walk or I will have issues... ha
    szavanna Resident: see you soon friendies
    szavanna Resident: hehe
    Eliza Madrigal: see you soon
    Agatha Macbeth: Friendies :p
    szavanna Resident: niteniteee
    szavanna Resident: zzzzz
    szavanna Resident: yes friendies
    Eliza Madrigal: nite and sweet dreams
    szavanna Resident: :D
    Agatha Macbeth: Tatty bye
    szavanna Resident: ♥ ♥ ♥
    szavanna Resident: .*♥*...║║║║╔╗╔╗*♥*
    szavanna Resident: ...*♥*.╠╣║║║╗╚╗.....*❤*
    szavanna Resident: *♥*....║║╚╝╚╝╚╝........
    Eliza Madrigal: ♥ ♥ ♥
    Agatha Macbeth: Huggies
    Agatha Macbeth: buu

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    Adding a video to those here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBhCuTf8Yb0
    Isabella Rajotte, who at some point had a wonderful Tara mantra on youtube but seems to have taken it down. :(
    Posted 01:06, 2 Dec 2016
    I was wrong. Here is the Green Tara mantra, labeled as White Tara :)


    About the mismatch title, Isabella wrote in comments:

    "pregnantsoul8 years ago
    i always worked with no lyrics ..just sounds and intentions..this time i sang this mantra but the energy that came out..and what i have seen and felt..was the white one. intention is the key that makes me sing and mine was to bring some peace.
    i am happy to share a collaboration with my dear frend butterflygris and give you a possibility to feel some serenity with our sounds and images .since i have chant it, ...more joy came into my life." edited 02:37, 3 Dec 2016
    Posted 01:08, 2 Dec 2016
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