2018.04.26 13:00 - Conference of the Birds 1

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Mick. The comments are by Agatha Macbeth.



    Tura Brezoianu: hi arabella
    Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
    Bleu Oleander: hi Ara, Tura :)
    Tura Brezoianu: hi Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: Evening all
    Mickorod Renard: hi folks
    Agatha Macbeth: Arababe :)))
    Agatha Macbeth: Woot
    Bleu Oleander: hey Aggers, Mick :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you back
    Agatha Macbeth: Still has the hair I gave her too
    Mickorod Renard: great to see Bruce back too
    arabella Ella: hi 
    Mickorod Renard: hi Raffi
    Bleu Oleander: hi Raffi
    Agatha Macbeth: Where's Brucie?
    arabella Ella: yes aggers
    Mickorod Renard: Bruce, thanks for sending the email and link to the mp3
    Raffila Millgrove: hi all. my babysitting got cancelled so I am not going to be late after all. lol. I put in my "going to be late" apology on Monday. Bruce is coming.
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Raff & Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Everyone!
    Bleu Oleander: hi Storm, Eden
    Eden Haiku: Hi everyone :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Stormy :)
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Storm
    Agatha Macbeth: And Edie :))
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Eden
    Raffila Millgrove: Bruce thought we were starting at noon cause of Zen.... so he was here then.. but he's coming again any minute.
    arabella Ella: hi storm and all
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Mickorod Renard: oh noo, sorry Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Agatha Macbeth: Here he is!
    Eliza Madrigal: Was Zen here also at that time?
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: Brucie :))
    Storm Nordwind: Hi all
    Bleu Oleander: hi Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: He's back
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow! HI, everyone!
    arabella Ella: hi bruce
    Mickorod Renard: Now then, I must make an appol on my behalf as I am away and not in control of what we are doing
    Raffila Millgrove: I emailed to Bruce as agreed but I couldn't seem to find Aph's mail address. Someone needs to remind her.
    Mickorod Renard: ah ty Raffi
    Agatha Macbeth: Looks like the gang's all here
    Eden Haiku: :)
    Mickorod Renard: we did have a small get together on monday
    arabella Ella: :) 
    Mickorod Renard: just in case we had some monday folk
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Mickorod Renard: and in our chat there was a suggestion that questions could be posted on email prior to the next meeting so we have a chance to choose questions about sections
    Agatha Macbeth: Good idea
    Bruce Mowbray nods, agrees.
    Bruce Mowbray: I can also send out mp3 readings, but we'll need to agree on a translation.
    Mickorod Renard: and that the previous method of reports might become cumbersome but we will see how it pans out
    Agatha Macbeth: Ooh
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, Bruce, you are reading it aloud?
    Mickorod Renard: yes, great idea Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: No, the computer does that.
    Eliza Madrigal: ah :) okay that's nice too
    arabella Ella: /nods
    Mickorod Renard: we have had some confusion over translation and pretty well ironed it out
    Bruce Mowbray: I can give a link to that now, if you like. But we should also agree on a translation.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, confusion.
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Mickorod Renard: Storm, can you recall the one we are doing?
    Mickorod Renard: its in emails
    Storm Nordwind: Yes
    Eden Haiku: Darbandi and Davis Miick
    Mickorod Renard: great
    Storm Nordwind: Hold on
    Storm Nordwind: Translated by Afham Darbandi and Dick Davis London: Penguin, 1984
    Bruce Mowbray: This is the one my reading was from: http://thekingdomwithin.net/wp-conte...ddin_Attar.pdf
    Eden Haiku: Available online as a PDF
    Eden Haiku: Same same :)
    Bleu Oleander: ah ok I have a newer translation
    Mickorod Renard: I have a penguin book but on ebooks there is no prequil or what its called
    Storm Nordwind: Starts of page 12 of that PDF
    Agatha Macbeth: Prologue?
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, introduction.
    Mickorod Renard: the main story ..thats it Ags
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm referencing a few different versions. Unfortunately I must have been so wrapped up reading the version on Kindle that I misplaced my ipad so can't say :)
    Agatha Macbeth: 'It came to pass...'
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Storm Nordwind: Starts: "Dear hoopoe, welcome! You will be our guide; It was on you King Solomon relied To carry secret messages between His court and distant Sheba’s lovely queen. He knew your language and you knew his heart"
    Agatha Macbeth: Sorry
    Tura Brezoianu: Yes, the ebook has a different introduction form the Penguin, and doesn't include the Prologue (part of the poem)
    Mickorod Renard: anyway, this is what our run up sessions are about
    Bruce Mowbray thinks, we are a bit like the birds.
    Eliza Madrigal smiles
    Mickorod Renard: we are indeed
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Do I get to be the peacock?
    Agatha Macbeth: Conference of the PaB
    arabella Ella: tweet 
    Mickorod Renard: but the main bit,,which we start from today,,is from line 616
    Bruce Mowbray: yes, that's where my reading started.
    Santoshima Resident: 's current display-name is "San".
    Mickorod Renard: so I think in previous get togethers we decided that our reading starts today from line 616
    Bruce Mowbray: http://hermitdog.com/Conference%20of...Part%20One.mp3
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello San :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ty Bruce, and hi San
    Santoshima Resident: hello everyone
    Bleu Oleander: hi San
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, San!
    Mickorod Renard: but............{hi san{
    Eden Haiku: hi san :)
    Agatha Macbeth sanhugs
    Mickorod Renard: we are open today for any reportage /input/pictures or anything about the book so far
    Bruce Mowbray listens...
    Mickorod Renard: if we have nothing to offer thats ok too
    Mickorod Renard: although Bruce has brought the mp3 which is fantastic
    Bruce Mowbray wonders why mystics who know very well that these truths cannot be spoken - go right ahead and try to explain it, anyway.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: has anyone read the prologue?..he he Beruce
    Bruce Mowbray: and I'm so glad that they do.
    Agatha Macbeth: That's mystics for you Brucie ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: yeah.
    Bruce Mowbray: identify closely with that tradition.
    Bleu Oleander: unspoken truths don't sell
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Eden Haiku: Liked the fact that it was in a dream that Farid Attar was taught, by poet Mansour.
    Bruce Mowbray listens carefully.
    Mickorod Renard: I read most of the prologue and found it a bit heavy on the religious sidecan you say more Eden?
    arabella Ella: truths that cannot be spoken are alleged ly explained 
    Storm Nordwind: Do you mean allegorically?
    Eden Haiku: Well, I just liked the fact that Attar had no living teacher, Only a dead sufi poet :)
    Mickorod Renard: sometimes . for me anyway. my dreams are governed to a degree wit what I have read...the reading could open up dreaming
    arabella Ella: cool
    Bruce Mowbray ponders LoJong's "First consider everything to be a dream."
    Mickorod Renard: nice idea Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: not mine, though.
    Agatha Macbeth: Ineresting that the Simurgh turns up in China first
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh, excellent point, aggers.
    Eden Haiku: Yes, and looses a feather :)
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: It mentions the Way too...made me think of a T'aoist connection
    Mickorod Renard: yes, somewehere i read that the term china is used to relate to all places that have a high knowledge
    Eden Haiku: oh!
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh?
    Agatha Macbeth: Snap
    Agatha Macbeth: Interesting
    Mickorod Renard: or something like that
    Eliza Madrigal: feel that (dream source) speaks to the sensibility at at first, the tale parallels Moses going to the mountain, rather than everyone, and the people saying they'd rather have him to talk to Gd. But someone who doesn't let the 'reasons' get in the way isn't hindered by even circumstances of waking life...
    Eliza Madrigal: that at*
    Bruce Mowbray: I find it interesting that Westerners look to the East for wisdom, and I wonder whether easterners look West. . . .
    Agatha Macbeth: Had a feeling Moses would get in here somewhere
    Eden Haiku: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) just was the most obvious connection
    Bruce Mowbray: Moses went east to the Promised Land.
    Agatha Macbeth: If they do Brucie they're gonna be disappointed!
    Mickorod Renard: just digesting that Eliza
    Tura Brezoianu: And then the Simorgh is also said to be hidden in each person's heart
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eden Haiku: Interesting one Eliza :) The finch " like Moses have seen the flames burn high" :)
    Tura Brezoianu: but without the sign (the feather) He would never be known
    Mickorod Renard: yes Tura, I think the discovery is on several levels
    Agatha Macbeth: Heart is where the home is
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eden Haiku: Hidden secrets :)
    Eliza Madrigal: homing in
    Agatha Macbeth: That's a thought - where was the pidgeon?
    Bruce Mowbray: I think most mystics would agree that every ground is holy . . . so Moses is taking off his shoes would be appropriate for everyone?
    Agatha Macbeth: They do it all the time in Japan
    Bruce Mowbray and And in every Zendo
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Bruce Mowbray: Hm
    arabella Ella: most of asia
    Eliza Madrigal: text seems to say everyone already has access they want the other to get for them? That's just a first glance reading though
    Mickorod Renard: . I am a little concerned I may be asking everyone to read too far each week. has anyone any concerns?
    Agatha Macbeth: Not from me
    Bruce Mowbray: thank you, Eliza, for pointing that out. . . excellent.
    Mickorod Renard: thats good
    Bruce Mowbray: I think that most laymen expect the priests to be holy for them....
    Bruce Mowbray: which of course is impossible.
    Storm Nordwind is reading and enjoying the interspersed mini-stories, but not the straw-man moralizing ;-)
    Bruce Mowbray: the birds seem to have the same problem.
    Mickorod Renard: perhaps they as the book is, just mediums or mediators?
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah, the straw men
    Bruce Mowbray: Dharma Gates, also. . . . ?
    Agatha Macbeth: See a lot of those online
    Eliza Madrigal: there is definitely some contextualizing to do while reading
    Bruce Mowbray: contextualizing = framing?
    Eden Haiku: Sent me looking for the Bismallah on Wikipedia...
    Bleu Oleander: as in context in which it was written?
    Mickorod Renard: I am gripped in suspense to find out what we uncover, I dont know if it will be as deep as dhama gates
    Eliza Madrigal: yes Bleu
    Bleu Oleander: 12th C?
    Storm Nordwind: I find the author is setting up cases, human foibles, that he can easily knock down and which don't really match the complexities of what humans are in general really like, neither in those individual foibles or their personalities as a whole.
    Eden Haiku: Opening word of the Koran: In the name of God.
    Agatha Macbeth: It's in Bohemian Rhapsody too
    Bruce Mowbray agrees with Storm. each bird is a personality type.
    Agatha Macbeth agrees with Bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: or if you like, a "frame."
    Mickorod Renard: yes, I found myself relating to each one in some way though,,maybe i am bad
    Bruce Mowbray: Mick is BAAAAAADDDD!
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eliza Madrigal: I started to read it as about distancing and measuring of each bird - agree 'excuses' were shallow but maybe most sermons are in that way
    Eden Haiku: likes the fact that the hoopoe first sees the positive trait of each bird
    Agatha Macbeth: You *are* bad Mick...like Michael Jackson :p
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: true Eden
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh, great point, Eden.
    Agatha Macbeth: JUst don't start walking backwards
    Mickorod Renard: a sort of teacher reation from the hoopee
    Storm Nordwind: The hoopoe doesn't come across to me as a compassionate being worthy of emulation.
    Mickorod Renard: oh, I was hoping so, but have not read far enough
    Bruce Mowbray: Is the hoopoe not honest to his disciples?
    Agatha Macbeth: The Hoopoe wears a feathered 'truth crown' which makes me think of the Egyptian goddess Maat
    Eden Haiku: Hoopoe carries secrets messages...
    Storm Nordwind: Are they his disciples?
    Bruce Mowbray: I sort of assume that they were disciples, since they came to a conference at which he is the main speaker and guide.
    Bruce Mowbray: Yikes!
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Mickorod Renard: In some write ups it is alledged that the story relates to the birds being a masters deciples
    Eden Haiku: Maat, yes Agatha. She wears the feather of justice/ and "justness' on her head :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah not a government then
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Storm Nordwind: I think it's more that he pronounces himself the best qualified, and they leave it at that!
    Eliza Madrigal: probably a good thing that the hoopoe isn't so likable, since it is trying to get them to be themselves? (agreeing that not too likable)
    Bleu Oleander: a power grab ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: I like him
    Storm Nordwind: hehe

    An old friend returns...

    Darren Islar: 's current display-name is "leaping Panther".
    Tura Brezoianu: yes, all the birds come together and the hoopoe inspires them with the quest
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Darren :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Darren!!!
    Agatha Macbeth: Wow
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Darren
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Darren :)
    Darren Islar: hi there
    Bleu Oleander: Hi Darren
    Raffila Millgrove: wow Darren. what a nice suprrise to see you!
    Agatha Macbeth: Long time...
    arabella Ella: hi Darren 
    Mickorod Renard: wow, good turn out today
    Eden Haiku: hi!
    Agatha Macbeth: Woot
    Storm Nordwind notices we have two birds present on shoulders. Perhaps they should be mandatory attire? ;)

    Agatha Macbeth: Yeh!
    arabella Ella: smiles
    Mickorod Renard: so, .....oh yes, have you seen my shirt? a great pressie from Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes...I wondered
    Raffila Millgrove only wears her radioactive rat on her shoulder which tends to turn all the lighting in the room to a green glow. lol
    Eliza Madrigal: :) :) :)
    Bleu Oleander: yes, I have Hoopoe tshirts if anyone wants one :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Please!
    Eliza Madrigal raises hand, very cute
    Mickorod Renard: yippeee for Bleeu
    Agatha Macbeth: Bleuji is so talented
    Bleu Oleander: the black one or the one I have on?
    Eliza Madrigal: black please
    Agatha Macbeth: Black for me definitely :)
    Agatha Macbeth: TY ♥
    Raffila Millgrove: I'd like blue please? ty.
    Bruce Mowbray: THAT was ELEPHANTASTIC!
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    Bruce Mowbray: 
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Tura Brezoianu puts on clockwork shoulder beetle
    Tura Brezoianu: I'd like a black hoopoe shirt please
    Mickorod Renard: so, the following section that we read..616 on...........how are we going to chat about it?,,next week?
    Bruce Mowbray: I find it difficult to separate myself from my own understandings of mysticism . . . and to remain completely neutral as I read The Conference of the Birds.....
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Bruce Mowbray: it will be a good practice for me.
    Tura Brezoianu: thanks!
    Bleu Oleander: yw!
    Mickorod Renard: I would like to think that with our diverse backgrunds we will have an interesting discussion
    Eliza Madrigal: aren't we? :)
    arabella Ella: how do you see mysticism then bruce
    Bruce Mowbray: indeed, Mick
    Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully
    Bruce Mowbray: . Well, frankly, we mystics tend to feel that God is the most obvious thing in the universe. Or, as Jesus said, that those who have years hear. ( and those who have eyes, see.)
    Mickorod Renard: Are we happy about how the story starts?
    Bruce Mowbray: let those who have*
    Mickorod Renard: sorryBruce
    Agatha Macbeth: It works for me Mick
    Bruce Mowbray: np.
    Mickorod Renard: listens
    arabella Ella: mmm Bruce that sounds rather simple 
    Eden Haiku: What do you mean Mick?
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm just hoping I can keep my focus on the book . . . or the text . . . without polluting it by my own experiences and feelings.
    Mickorod Renard: I mean, did anyone want a brief description of how it starts
    Mickorod Renard: ?
    Eliza Madrigal is here for personal feelings as much as text
    arabella Ella: we hear or see what suits us more often than not 
    Bruce Mowbray nds to Eliza.
    Agatha Macbeth: Right Liz
    Bruce Mowbray: nods*
    Mickorod Renard: yeh, I agree eliza
    Eden Haiku: agrees too
    Bleu Oleander: I'm here for my interest in world literature
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhh!
    Eliza Madrigal: but I understand... have to be aware of hobby horses too
    Bruce Mowbray: comparative religion, too?
    Mickorod Renard: we are all gonna take something from the read even though we may take something diferent
    Santoshima Resident: am here for my interest in talking birds
    Eliza Madrigal has an army of hobby horses
    Eliza Madrigal: lolllol San
    Bleu Oleander: :) San
    Bruce Mowbray: :)))
    Darren Islar: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: I suspect that in some cultures birds are revered because they can fly into the heavens, escaping the burdens of Earth . .
    Mickorod Renard: somewhere what I have read suggests to me a little of what we did in TSK......a sort of identifying our attachments
    Bruce Mowbray: I'm thinking now of the dove that represented the Holy Spirit.
    Bruce Mowbray: YIKES!
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes, wings are a common representation of divinity (hence angels)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: 
    Eden Haiku: How do you see " The Conference of the Birds" in the large context of World Literature Bleu?
    Bruce Mowbray loves it!
    Storm Nordwind regards San as Mistress of Subtlety
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Agatha Macbeth loves it too
    Bleu Oleander: similar to some sensibilities of "1001 Nights"
    Bleu Oleander: which I'm studying now
    Agatha Macbeth: Right Bleuji
    Bruce Mowbray: ahhhh. . . wonderful comparison.
    Bleu Oleander: a specific time and place ... cultural themes
    Bleu Oleander: similar ... not specific :)
    Eden Haiku: 1001 night came from oral transmission though which is not the case with "Conference"
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Bleu Oleander: but some of 1001 nights was written also
    Eden Haiku: And 1001 nights is ealier in time, around 10th century I think
    Bleu Oleander: by a frenchman in the 19th C
    Eden Haiku: Yes, sure, it was put in writing from the 14th centiury
    Bleu Oleander: no also written as in adding new stories
    Mickorod Renard: it would be interesting to get your opinion of whether 1001 nights or gilgamesh would be a good follow on book Bleu?
    Bleu Oleander: well, both very interesting
    Eden Haiku: But what do you see specific to "the Conefernce of the Birds' Bleu. I think you are the only one here who read the whole book already.
    Agatha Macbeth: I can never remember if it's 'NIghts' or 'Knights' :p
    Bleu Oleander: Gilgamesh is oldest
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bleu Oleander: its too much to go into here, but I will comment as we go
    Eden Haiku: Ok
    Mickorod Renard: fantastic
    Agatha Macbeth: Woot
    Bleu Oleander: stories nested in stories is one similarity
    Mickorod Renard: ah yes
    Agatha Macbeth: Russian dolls
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I sometimes wonder whether the stories within stories are my crazy imagination or if its a form of enlightenment
    Bruce Mowbray ponders fractal stories. . . .
    Darren Islar: can you elaborate Mick
    Mickorod Renard: yes!
    Mickorod Renard: I mean.Daren, that when I read some storries they seem to reveal so many other truths about life..but I feel not everyone has the same experience
    Eden Haiku: The rethorical figure of embedment could be a form of enlightnment Mick, it's a good inuition I think :)
    Agatha Macbeth smiles
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: You're so cute Edie
    Mickorod Renard: also Bruce, there are the achetypes,,as in birds
    Bruce Mowbray: To each his story (and his Dulcinea.)
    Eden Haiku: smiles at Agatha :)
    Bleu Oleander: I was referring to an actual literary construction
    Bruce Mowbray: her story, too.
    Darren Islar: Is that as in understanding the words used as a seperate truth or phrases, or images?
    Mickorod Renard: is that to me Dareeren?
    Mickorod Renard: Darren*
    Eden Haiku: Finch understands unspoken words
    Darren Islar: sorry, yes Mick
    Bruce Mowbray: Finch is also rather paranoid.....
    Bruce Mowbray: at least anxious.
    Mickorod Renard: np, I would say as the imagination unrolls the narative
    Agatha Macbeth ponders a paranoid bird
    Mickorod Renard: if that makes sense
    Bruce Mowbray: sort of flighty.
    Storm Nordwind: So would you feel paranoid sitting with horns towering over you
    Eden Haiku: Well, you can focus on their excuses or stay with their positive traits for a while...
    Agatha Macbeth: Flighty! Love it
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eden Haiku: Parrot can flee despise the flames around its throat
    Mickorod Renard: I rarely see the words just the picture the words conjure up
    Eliza Madrigal: yes maybe contemplating those aspects together gives the complexity needed
    Tura Brezoianu: The finch reminds me of the saying that too humble is half proud.
    Darren Islar: I think so Mick, I thin it comes close to what I mean with images, which to me can be also be accompanied by words or feelings
    Darren Islar: *think
    Bruce Mowbray: ( I hope someone is getting a picture of this session. it should be preserved in the wiki.)
    Mickorod Renard: Ags
    Eliza Madrigal has taken a few
    Bruce Mowbray: Great! Thanks, Eliza.
    Darren Islar: right, the picture not the words itself
    Agatha Macbeth: I have two for the log
    Mickorod Renard: Ags is gonna post it for me as I am away at the mo
    Mickorod Renard: on borrowed laptop
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks both :)
    Mickorod Renard: cobvered in mosquito bites
    Agatha Macbeth bows graciously
    Eden Haiku: Partridge's laughter strikes the door of God and destroys the Mountain of the Self
    Agatha Macbeth: Edie is reading ahead I think x
    Mickorod Renard: ok, well its closing in to end and I think we are prepped now
    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, I'm hearing that I need to spend more time with the PDF rather than the version I've been reading!
    Eden Haiku: No, that's right in the beginning Agatha
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Eden Haiku: Falcon breaks nature's form and rest at peace in Unity black cave
    Agatha Macbeth: Missed that
    Bleu Oleander: yes, me too Eliza
    Agatha Macbeth: Wll re-read
    Eden Haiku: I printed the PDF in order to take notes.
    Darren Islar: which PDF?
    Agatha Macbeth: How diligent :)
    Eliza Madrigal: the language you are highlighting is so much more powerful Eden
    Mickorod Renard: would it be fun to ask if afterreading the first section whether we feel we relate individually to a bird..or would that be too personal?
    Eden Haiku: Yes, the poetic =form of this version is wonderful
    Storm Nordwind: My PDF came pre-marked up for some reason, but with the later versions of Acrobat reader, you can add your own comments and highlights to the PDF and save them.
    Agatha Macbeth: The whole thing reads like a Grail quest to me
    Eliza Madrigal: lol Mick... I'm a bit like you, whenever I hear descriptions I can find something similar
    Bruce Mowbray: http://thekingdomwithin.net/wp-conte...ddin_Attar.pdf
    Mickorod Renard: its a bit shakespearian too,,or maybe I am daft
    Agatha Macbeth: You're daft :p
    Eden Haiku: Francolin rides Self as a donkey and sees the Holy Ghost arise in glory
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Darren Islar: thanks Bruce :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Mick is DAAAAAFFFFFTTTT!
    Eliza Madrigal: self mastery
    Eden Haiku: Nightingale melts with love the mail coat of Self
    Mickorod Renard: so, any last requests ?
    Eliza Madrigal is suddenly impatient to leave and read, hahha
    Agatha Macbeth: A cigar?
    Bruce Mowbray feels that Love is where it all is headed. . . .
    Mickorod Renard: I hope so
    Eden Haiku: Which is in sync withn Mick's goal :).
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Excellent.
    Agatha Macbeth: Marx thought it was offside
    Eden Haiku: Thank you Mick for hosting while away :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, thank you, Mick!
    Storm Nordwind: Thank you Mick. I'm sorry I must disappear now
    Bleu Oleander: ty Mick :)
    Agatha Macbeth: TY Micko
    Mickorod Renard: its my plaeasure, and especially to such a fine group of freineds
    Santoshima Resident: bye Storm :)
    Raffila Millgrove: I yhave photos. who should i send to?
    Darren Islar: thanks Mick :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Fly away....
    Mickorod Renard: bye storm
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Storm
    Agatha Macbeth: TC Stormy
    Raffila Millgrove: for the log?
    Santoshima Resident: Bruce is alight
    Eliza Madrigal: Raffi you can attach them right to the log when posted, or I can if you like
    Bleu Oleander: must go too ... bye all
    arabella Ella: I must be off too bye everyone 
    Mickorod Renard: btw, are we doing Monday? nnooo?
    Santoshima Resident: bye Bleu, and Bruce
    Mickorod Renard: maybe
    Santoshima Resident: bye Arabella
    Eliza Madrigal: thanks everybody! Ntsy Ara
    Mickorod Renard: bye all going
    Santoshima Resident: bye folks
    Eliza Madrigal: I can't come two days per week, so I've chosen Thursdays
    Raffila Millgrove: ok. ty. i will send them to you then. ty Eliza. Ty Mick for hosting us. glad to see so many here.
    Agatha Macbeth: Good to see you back Darren!
    Mickorod Renard: great
    Darren Islar: bye everyione, pleasure to see you all again :)
    Santoshima Resident: Will come on Thursdays
    Darren Islar: thanks Ags
    Santoshima Resident: yes, good to see you Darren :)
    Mickorod Renard: Eliza, I will struggle two days too
    Raffila Millgrove: great San. Please come again darren.. so great to see old faces.
    Darren Islar: thanks San
    Mickorod Renard: so Thurdaay is my official being here day
    Eden Haiku: Lies being parrt ofyour group of' freineds': Mick :)
    Darren Islar: not sure I can make Thursdaus though
    Mickorod Renard: :))
    Darren Islar: I just remembered :)
    Raffila Millgrove: well we are meeting Mondays.
    Eden Haiku: *likes
    Raffila Millgrove: so you can come then as we pick up slack on Mondays.
    Darren Islar: Mondays .. okay
    Mickorod Renard: if i can do it Raffi I will
    Darren Islar: I can do once in a fourtnigjt
    Mickorod Renard: great!
    Raffila Millgrove: great. see you all laters. hugs.
    Santoshima Resident: so long
    Eliza Madrigal waves
    Eden Haiku: Bye!
    Darren Islar: bye everyone
    Mickorod Renard: ok, I need to go and hand back this laptop
    Mickorod Renard: thanks folks
    Eliza Madrigal: okay...thanks again Mick
    Eden Haiku: Bye Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: please feel free to im email if need to amend anything
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Tura :)
    Mickorod Renard: byeeeeeee
    Tura Brezoianu: goodnight all

    Agatha Macbeth: Well that broke the ice
    Eden Haiku: Yes Agatha! It's fun to have you onboard!
    Eliza Madrigal: and chiming in!
    Agatha Macbeth: It is
    Eden Haiku: yes!
    Eden Haiku: With interesting inputs!
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh I chime from time to time
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bit like a clock
    Eden Haiku: Like a faithful bell :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That too

    Liz rezzes a giant ladybird...

    Agatha Macbeth: Good heavens
    Eden Haiku: Who is traveling by ladybird?
    Eliza Madrigal: that is listed as though a bird in my inventory...
    Eliza Madrigal: so glad I didn't rezz it in session
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: It's a bird, but it isn't
    Eden Haiku: Ah! Mystery solved!
    Agatha Macbeth: Must be why some call them ladybugs
    Eden Haiku: Looking up her birds inventory :)
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm sorely lacking birds...
    Eliza Madrigal: just these :)
    Eden Haiku: Not a single bird. We need to go shopping Eliza :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I only seem to have a parrot
    Eden Haiku: And a beautiful colorful one Agatha!
    Eliza Madrigal: quite a dramatic parrot though Agatha
    Eliza Madrigal: yay shopping trip
    Agatha Macbeth: Woot
    Agatha Macbeth: Good excuse
    Eden Haiku: It left your shoulder?
    Agatha Macbeth: It's a bit big so I sent it home
    Eliza Madrigal: went to conference
    Eden Haiku: Good girl :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Dunno how Long John Silver coped
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah
    Agatha Macbeth: Imagine all the parrot crap down his back...
    Eliza Madrigal: he had a good excuse not to look for the simurgh (sp?)
    Eden Haiku: Woke up to a bird singing this morning
    Agatha Macbeth: Well he wasn't a bird
    Eliza Madrigal: oh?
    Agatha Macbeth: So excused duty
    Eden Haiku: And thought he was singing "The Conference of the Birds" :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Who Long John Silver?
    Eden Haiku: No, the bird :)
    Eliza Madrigal: an opera in 4 parts
    Agatha Macbeth is confused
    Eliza Madrigal: there is a bird here, who sounds like a car alarm...
    Eliza Madrigal: but as I've gotten used to him, not so terrible... am very impressed
    Eden Haiku: arrgh...
    Agatha Macbeth: Good job I have him turned down then
    Eden Haiku: A kind of geicko bird then Eliza ?
    Eliza Madrigal: yes precisely
    Agatha Macbeth: Com-pa-shun
    Eliza Madrigal: or some version
    Eliza Madrigal: in some ways I live in a gecko now
    Eden Haiku: giggles
    Agatha Macbeth: I often think of that
    Agatha Macbeth: Adams and the dog
    Eliza Madrigal smiles - I met a gecko in SL last week...
    Agatha Macbeth: They get around
    Eden Haiku: Oh!
    Eliza Madrigal: she wore a baseball cap, really sweet
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Probably after flies
    Eden Haiku: imagines a gecko with a baseball cap.Only in SL :)
    Eliza Madrigal: she made a box full of positive quotes
    Eliza Madrigal: so sort of a song :)
    Eden Haiku: Nice :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Can't beat a positive gecko
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Eden Haiku: hehe
    Eden Haiku: On this positive note, I will bow to you two sweet ladies and head to complete my 10,000 steps into the rain :)
    Eliza Madrigal: <3 sounds lovely
    Eliza Madrigal: don't slip!
    Agatha Macbeth: THat's a lotta steps
    Agatha Macbeth: The longest journey and all that
    Eden Haiku: Still, about 3,000 steps to go...
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: ah, so not terrible
    Eden Haiku: yes, been doing that for almost two years now Agatha. It feels great!ç
    Agatha Macbeth: Will be good when there are 39
    Eliza Madrigal: I've doubled my steps inspired by eden
    Eden Haiku: About 7 or 8 kilometers: I don't walk very fast. Urban walk :) Mostly in parks.
    Eliza Madrigal: but fall short of 10000 most of the time :(
    Eden Haiku: Wonderful Eliza!
    Agatha Macbeth: I tend to march unfortunately :P
    Eliza Madrigal: :)))
    Eden Haiku: Bye Eliza and Agatha, have a great week end!
    Eliza Madrigal: marching steps should count more lol
    Agatha Macbeth: Be well Edie good to see you again
    Eliza Madrigal: I have bruschetta to make for sudden guests too, but saw you two lingering :)
    Agatha Macbeth: I like to linger sometimes
    Eliza Madrigal nods... me too
    Agatha Macbeth: Is that a little brusca?
    Eliza Madrigal: don't think so :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hm
    Agatha Macbeth: I'll look it up
    Eliza Madrigal: am seeing a mobster...
    Agatha Macbeth: OMG
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: That looks nice
    Eliza Madrigal: I'm using fresh basil and tomatoes from my little patio garden
    Agatha Macbeth: Basil!
    Eliza Madrigal: yes that's my drug of choice, you too?
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Not now Sybil'
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah I see
    Agatha Macbeth: I love that Italian bread
    Agatha Macbeth: And your pink boots
    Eliza Madrigal: using ciabatta....and balsamic glaze at the end...
    Agatha Macbeth: Wonderful
    Eliza Madrigal: ^.^ ty... I think they are stuck on me
    Agatha Macbeth: Wish I was there
    Eliza Madrigal: when I get my grant from the universe to start a retreat center it will have a cafe and I'll make you some :)
    Agatha Macbeth: WHy thank you dear :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :) bye for now
    Agatha Macbeth: I will look forward to it
    Agatha Macbeth: Be well




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    Nice photos Agatha! I added just a few more. <3
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