2018.06.04 13:00 - When will them Birds fly?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Mick. The comments are by Agatha.


    Bruce Mowbray: 's current display-name is "Bruce".
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Bruce
    Mickorod Renard: am I in your seat?
    Bruce Mowbray: No, you're fine.
    Bruce Mowbray: I was just waiting for everything to rez.
    Mickorod Renard: great, how are you?
    Bruce Mowbray: well I am great Mic,k.
    Bruce Mowbray: thank you for asking.
    Mickorod Renard: ah yes, I have to do that
    Bruce Mowbray: and how are you this fine day.
    Mickorod Renard: wow great, ..I am fine too Bruce ty
    Bruce Mowbray: Excellent!
    Mickorod Renard: I went along to that meet on saturday, with Elijah
    Bruce Mowbray: ohgreat!
    Mickorod Renard: it was quite interesting
    Agatha Macbeth: Greetings
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ags
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, aggers!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Storm
    Agatha Macbeth: Hello Stormy
    Bruce Mowbray: Hi, Storm.
    Storm Nordwind: Hi everyone
    Bruce Mowbray: Bleu, is looking good with her new head and body.
    Agatha Macbeth: TV girl
    Mickorod Renard: oh, I havnt seen her yet
    Bleu Oleander: 's current display-name is "Bleu".
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: You have ! :p
    Bruce Mowbray: or should I say, "Heads and body"?
    Bleu Oleander: hi all :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Hi Bleuji
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Bruce Mowbray: face and body how's that?
    Agatha Macbeth: 'Do not adjust your set
    Mickorod Renard: ah I see now, a bit spooky
    Agatha Macbeth: Spookeh
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bruce Mowbray ponders T.S. Eliot's "I shall go to prepare a face to meet the faces that I meet."
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Lets face it
    Bruce Mowbray: Instant Botox?
    Agatha Macbeth: Instant what?
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Mickorod Renard: boxtox
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought the t was an I for a minute
    Agatha Macbeth: Here comes Liz
    Agatha Macbeth: Thinking inside the box Brucie?
    Bleu Oleander: hi Eliza :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Yay
    Bruce Mowbray: Heya, Eliza!
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bleu, everyone :)
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Eliza :)
    Eliza Madrigal: my head suddenly seems too round
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: A wee bit too roond lassie
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: the Elijah meet was fun on Saturday
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes it was
    Eliza Madrigal nods, sorry you missed it Bruce, but I know you're already well familiar
    Mickorod Renard: I like vizualization
    Bruce Mowbray: So sorry I couldn't make it -- having dinner out of town with RL friends.
    Eliza Madrigal: nice
    Bruce Mowbray: I met with Elijah today, though.
    Mickorod Renard: ah!
    Agatha Macbeth: Not quite such a hermit then
    Bruce Mowbray: Mike typist does see humans now and then.
    Eliza Madrigal: Hermits go down from the mountain occasionally :)
    Bruce Mowbray: My*
    Mickorod Renard: yes Bruce, you sound like a socialite
    Bruce Mowbray:
    Storm Nordwind: Hobnobbing with the gentry
    Agatha Macbeth: And into cubism
    Mickorod Renard: How did the reading go? anyone get through the expected bit?
    Bruce Mowbray: My text didn't go that far.
    Eliza Madrigal: not yet, here to absorb others' pointers and insights
    Storm Nordwind: Yes and no. The PDF I've been following suddenly stops.
    Mickorod Renard: yikes
    Bleu Oleander: yes I noticed that too
    Bleu Oleander: I have too many versions of this book :)
    Mickorod Renard: thank goodness Bruce has the voice one
    Bruce Mowbray: No, I make the voice one from the other one.
    Eliza Madrigal: then my PDF will stop too, because I've been using the one from the link
    Bruce Mowbray: and the other one ran out!
    Mickorod Renard: oh nooooo
    Eliza Madrigal: "the birds fall off the cliff"
    Bruce Mowbray: oh yesssssss.
    Mickorod Renard: what should we do?
    Bleu Oleander: there's a nice more modern translation I've been using
    Bruce Mowbray: The hunter shiek shoots the birds. . .
    Storm Nordwind: It goes to the end of a subheading section called "The Arab in Persia" and then goes to commentary text
    Mickorod Renard: mmmmmm
    Bruce Mowbray: Yep, that's all I've got too.
    Bleu Oleander: the Wolpe translation
    Mickorod Renard: do you all think you can improvise?
    Eliza Madrigal runs to see which she has on kindle
    Storm Nordwind: The last lines of the poem we have are:Enter the Way or seek some other goal, But do so to the utmost of your soul; Risk all, and as a naked Beggar roam If you would hear that ‘Enter’ call you home.
    Bruce Mowbray: That's it, Storm.
    Mickorod Renard: well, what do you all think? can we carry one with it?
    Bruce Mowbray: Sure!
    Mickorod Renard: oh great!
    Agatha Macbeth: Why not?
    Mickorod Renard: was worried noone had the rest to read
    Storm Nordwind: There are other versions out there, but I haven't found an equivalent poem one yet. More just prose.
    Mickorod Renard: kk
    Mickorod Renard: I did a bit of a note ..should anyone wish me to paste it,,its short
    Agatha Macbeth: Go for it
    Bruce Mowbray: We all have lives full of experience to bring . . . to the questions raised by this poem.
    Mickorod Renard: ty
    Bruce Mowbray listens
    Mickorod Renard: In this section I found the stories still interesting, if not more so. Here we find there are 7 valleys to pass through. I found 'Eblis and Gods curse ' dificult but after googling discovered enough to help me understand 'pride' and the posible behind the scenes stuff re Eblis. fly and the bee hive (simple enough) re attachments/detachments 'A sheikh in love' note at the end there is a suggestion/complaint that noone (birds?) has yet set off.
    Mickorod Renard: 'A lover who slept' would love to here more about this one and along with 'watchman in love'
    Mickorod Renard: done ..but have a short thoughts thingy can paste afterwards
    Agatha Macbeth: Ah Eblis
    Agatha Macbeth: Born of fire
    Mickorod Renard: yeh, interesting chap
    Storm Nordwind: Reading Eblis and God's Curse, I found it easy to have sympathy with the devil. ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: Very
    Agatha Macbeth: Pleased to meet you :p
    Mickorod Renard: yeh, btw wasnt that a song?
    Mickorod Renard: stones
    Storm Nordwind nods and grins
    Mickorod Renard: he he Ags
    Agatha Macbeth: Hope you know my name
    Bruce Mowbray: Isn't th devile just a fallen angel, after all?
    Storm Nordwind: Actually 'for' rather than 'with', but the reference was the same :)
    Bruce Mowbray: me listens for more from Mick
    Bruce Mowbray: and Storm...
    Bruce Mowbray: and everyone.
    Bruce Mowbray ponders sympathizing with/for the devile.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, a few tales about him
    Bruce Mowbray: also devil.
    Bruce Mowbray: de-vile (curious). . . .
    Mickorod Renard: but he could have been set up by God
    Bruce Mowbray nods, agrees.
    Storm Nordwind notes, coincidentally, that Sympathy for the Devil was recorded by the Rolling Stones 50 years ago. Today.
    Eliza Madrigal: Thank you. ありがとうございました。
    Agatha Macbeth: Synchronicity
    Eliza Madrigal: oops
    Mickorod Renard: but from the point of the poem the thing is pride
    Bruce Mowbray: TODAY!
    Eliza Madrigal: :) meant to say, how interesting :))
    Mickorod Renard: wow Storm, is that so?
    Mickorod Renard: how spooky is that
    Storm Nordwind: Recorded 4–5, 8–10 June 1968
    Bruce Mowbray: 1968 -what a year!
    Agatha Macbeth: Isn't it the RFK anniversary soon?
    Bruce Mowbray: This week, I think.
    Agatha Macbeth nods
    Agatha Macbeth: Yes a lot went on that year
    Mickorod Renard: yesterday I went and revisited a seaside that I went to when I was 12
    Mickorod Renard: that year
    Agatha Macbeth: Not Weston by any chance?
    Mickorod Renard: first time since and felt quite emotional
    Agatha Macbeth: Happens
    Bruce Mowbray: I can imagine, ick.
    Bruce Mowbray: Mick*
    Mickorod Renard: no, Amroth near Saundersfoot wales
    Storm Nordwind: So the thing about the story in the poem is 'pride'. But whose pride, one wonders? ;)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ick! :P
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh nice
    Agatha Macbeth: I love Pembrokeshire
    Agatha Macbeth: World's end
    Bruce Mowbray has never been to the coast of England/Wales -- only of Scotland.
    Mickorod Renard: how do u mean Storm?
    Agatha Macbeth listens
    Storm Nordwind: Well, whose pride do you think is being illustrated, Mick?
    Mickorod Renard: the way I read other stuff on it was that these characters are within us, and Pride is one such that is our failing
    Storm Nordwind: I see.
    Mickorod Renard: I mean, the fallen angels/devil..is in our character
    Mickorod Renard: Eblis being the one with the curseoriginated from his Pride
    Storm Nordwind: It seems to me that the one who pushes him out is at least as guilty of pride as the fallen one.
    Agatha Macbeth: He was a djinn
    Bruce Mowbray: Are you ssaying that we ought to embrace our foibles?
    Mickorod Renard: I see Storm yes, Adam also was blamed for his part in things but he asked God for forgivness wheras Eblis did not as he was too full of self ego
    Storm Nordwind: Eblis saw himself as an equal. And why not? The flaws are there to see in both.
    Mickorod Renard: is everyone familiar with the story in any small way?
    Mickorod Renard: ah as an equal to Adam?
    Agatha Macbeth: An equal, or superior?
    Storm Nordwind: No. To God
    Agatha Macbeth: I thought the latter
    Agatha Macbeth: Oh
    Agatha Macbeth: Got it
    Bruce Mowbray: Like Lucifer, then?
    Storm Nordwind: Names shmames
    Bleu Oleander: reminded me of the story of Ham in the Bible
    Agatha Macbeth: As Reggie Perrin said
    Bruce Mowbray: Lucifer wanted to stay in Heaven and love God rather than bring Light to the world... so God kicked him out.
    Mickorod Renard: there was suggestion that God asked Eblis to bow to Adam, but Eblis didnt want to
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmm.... listens.
    Agatha Macbeth: He believed himself superior to Adam
    Mickorod Renard: well, Eblis thought that his worshipping God would be enough
    Storm Nordwind: Basically God's reaction to Eblis's pride or whatever the poem describes is not, in my view, exemplary or a role model. More a fit of pique that could be interpreted in one way as pride.
    Bleu Oleander: was it a question of seeing god's secrets that he shouldn't have seen?
    Agatha Macbeth: G is notorious for not being messed with ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Storm Nordwind: He and I agree to disagree :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha
    Mickorod Renard: I saw something about that Bleu but cannot comment
    Bleu Oleander: you must die because you have seen my secrets
    Bruce Mowbray: modesty on God's part?
    Storm Nordwind: That would be a first
    Bruce Mowbray: bashful?
    Eliza Madrigal: "you solved it, game over" :)
    Agatha Macbeth ponders Bleu's secrets
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Bleu Oleander: wonders if I read the right part ... :)
    Bruce Mowbray: So, basically, the birds are being told that they must sacrifice something . . . (Drop something) --- be it pride, or whatever.
    Mickorod Renard: but the emphasis in the story is that if Eblis had been totally submissive to God and love God as he claimed to during his worshipping, then he should not have questions Gods choice , be it a God made test ot not
    Bleu Oleander: yeah
    Bruce Mowbray: Very similar to Job, Mick. . . except that Job was more loyal, I guess.
    Mickorod Renard: yes, its the idea that one should not make an assumption of being superior to anyone else
    Bruce Mowbray: In Job, God and the Devil make a bet.
    Bleu Oleander: pay no attention to that man behind the curtain :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: "Man"?
    Agatha Macbeth: Eblis is the same as Melek Taus I think
    Mickorod Renard: did anyone understand the watchman in love?
    Agatha Macbeth: To be honest no :p
    Mickorod Renard: :)
    Storm Nordwind: watchman?
    Bruce Mowbray: I don't think that's in our version, Mick.
    Agatha Macbeth: Maybe lurve just ain't ma thang
    Mickorod Renard: erk
    Agatha Macbeth: Mein gott zere are different versions
    Agatha Macbeth: Ach 9
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Eliza Madrigal: So many versions! I found a kindle illustrated version for .99 just now, but can't find my way around to where we are
    Bruce Mowbray: Yes, not in the pdf version.
    Bleu Oleander: I find I don't resonate with most of these stories
    Bruce Mowbray: Really, Bleu?
    Bruce Mowbray: Please say more.
    Bleu Oleander: yep
    Storm Nordwind: I agree with Bleu
    Bruce Mowbray: Wow!
    Agatha Macbeth: Actually so do I
    Eliza Madrigal: something is hard to connect to
    Eliza Madrigal listens
    Bruce Mowbray: I resonate to almost all of them!
    Mickorod Renard: I like the stories
    Agatha Macbeth: The Shahnameh is way better
    Bruce Mowbray: but please say more.
    Bleu Oleander: basically have nothing to do with me and the modern world but am trying to see them in their context
    Agatha Macbeth listens
    Bruce Mowbray also listens.
    Storm Nordwind: One can like the stories, admire the artistry and technique and implementation of purpose, without resonating with any of them.
    Bleu Oleander: yes
    Mickorod Renard: true, maybe I resonate with them too
    Mickorod Renard: I find it facinating that we have a sort of split group
    Bleu Oleander: I don't find them to be particularly well written and some of the stories are really not messages I can see value in
    Mickorod Renard: as in previous reads we have been a bit too in agreement
    Eliza Madrigal: I think there is a way to read it that must be more harmonious, keeping poetical context, but at least for me it doesn't stay in that tone as I read
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmmmm.
    Mickorod Renard: I know I have changed over the years and become more the way I am, thought it was cos I am old and not to bothered about money n stuff
    Eliza Madrigal: which doesn't mean there aren't portions that stand out to me as meaningful personally, and beautiful
    Bruce Mowbray ponders becoming more the way I am....
    Agatha Macbeth: You too eh?
    Mickorod Renard: I was just thinking that I may not have resonated with it several years ago
    Agatha Macbeth: It may get better once they setout
    Bruce Mowbray: Me neither, Mick . . .
    Eliza Madrigal: I've gone to read Rumi a few times, to try to sort of key into the music, then come back to see if I could feel it more
    Agatha Macbeth: This is kind of a preamble
    Bruce Mowbray: The journey is the thing.
    Eliza Madrigal: Rumi seems different because he is all about his own trip
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Rumi is wonderful . . . and right in step with the major ideas of this poem, I feel.
    Agatha Macbeth: Pontification before the good bit
    Storm Nordwind: With the exception of the section we had a week or two ago about death (which is universal, whether or not you share the writer's beliefs) I haven't found anything useful to me in the poem. In fact very often I would see messages counter to the poet's intent.
    Mickorod Renard: journeys , even with friends often show up diferences not previously seen
    Bruce Mowbray: So, is what the hoopoe is suggesting more of a journey or a gate along the way?
    Storm Nordwind: Rumi is less of a bully than Attar and more of an artist. Much more satisfying to read in my humble opinion.
    Mickorod Renard: I have to be constantly reminded to stay on the right track, and even then I am naughty
    Bleu Oleander: agree Storm :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Rumi is pretty good yes
    Bruce Mowbray: OH YES, me too, Mick . . . I'm a wanderer off the beaten path.
    Agatha Macbeth: Let's rumi-nate on that
    Bruce Mowbray dies from laughing....
    Storm Nordwind groans
    Bleu Oleander: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I would love to finnish this poem/book, but more so would love to follow with a book that would be meaningful for us all
    Bruce Mowbray: This poem was meaningful to me -- and I' really glad you suggested it, Mick. Otherwise I'd never heard of it.
    Bleu Oleander: no book is meaningful to everyone ... perhaps some more than others
    Bruce Mowbray: I"m*
    Bruce Mowbray: I feel that the poem captured, to a large extent, the all or nothing emotionality of mysticism.
    Storm Nordwind: Meaningful to read and useful to read can be independent though. This has been useful to me but not meaningful.
    Mickorod Renard: do you think we should stick to more clinical books, like Maxines before?
    Eliza Madrigal: My hope is that once the group is really up and onward, the rest will have a more open feeling
    Eliza Madrigal: the group of birds*
    Agatha Macbeth ponders clinical books
    Bruce Mowbray ponders up and onward.
    Bruce Mowbray: is that transcendence?
    Mickorod Renard: yes Eliza, I was supprised that they have not taken flight yet
    Eliza Madrigal: I think book reading for us is complex and that it helps to have a 'teacher' sometimes
    Eliza Madrigal: or someone well on their way, though not strictly necessary
    Agatha Macbeth: Basically I think I'm just impatient and want them to get on with it
    Bruce Mowbray doesn't have a whole lot of faith and teachers, I guess.
    Mickorod Renard: that would be nice Eliza, although then we risk being steered in a direction
    Eliza Madrigal: hahah Agatha :)
    Bruce Mowbray: in teachers*
    Bleu Oleander: I think we're capable of reading without a teacher and I like that we offer different interpretations and can discuss them all
    Bruce Mowbray nods and agrees with aggers.
    Bruce Mowbray: no, it was Mick I agreed with.
    Bruce Mowbray: sorry, aggers.
    Mickorod Renard: agrees with Bleu
    Agatha Macbeth: YW
    Bruce Mowbray: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: sure, capable, just that it can be helpful sometimes, as with maxine peeking in once in a while
    Agatha Macbeth: Wish she'd peek more often
    Mickorod Renard: but as with Eliza, some guide would help someone who knows the techy stuff
    Bruce Mowbray: so for Thursday, what's the menu?
    Bleu Oleander: well who's to say how to interpret a book ... even authors aren't aware of how their books get understood many times
    Mickorod Renard: we gotta read what we should have for today
    Agatha Macbeth: Or if they do
    Bleu Oleander: I say once they put it out there let everyone get what they want from it
    Mickorod Renard: up to 'the valley of unity
    Eliza Madrigal: can it be both?
    Storm Nordwind reflects that Thursday's menu for him is burrito and fries followed by cheesecake flauta and ice cream
    Bruce Mowbray: Can anyone suggest a place (besides Kindle) that I can find the entire text?
    Agatha Macbeth loves a guy who gets hispriorities right
    Mickorod Renard: look at the bible and see how many types of church
    Bruce Mowbray loves cheesecake.
    Bruce Mowbray: Good analogy, Mick.
    Agatha Macbeth: Quite a few Mick
    Eliza Madrigal: I have 2 versions on kindle and neither are clearly numbered or sectioned
    Bruce Mowbray: Hmmm.
    Bleu Oleander: me too
    Agatha Macbeth: Hmmm
    Bruce Mowbray: Well then, how about an oni?
    Agatha Macbeth: Y not
    Bruce Mowbray: onigokko
    Bruce Mowbray: stop
    Eliza Madrigal is amazed to be wearing this for once
    Bleu Oleander: always forget to oni-up :)
    Bruce Mowbray: Opps. Time for me to be a-scraping now that I've worked up an appitite.
    Agatha Macbeth: Again again
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: Aww
    Storm Nordwind: Bye Bruce
    Mickorod Renard: if you can find 'a sheikh in love' then u read up to that
    Bleu Oleander: bye Bruce
    Agatha Macbeth: Scrape well Brucie
    Mickorod Renard: bye brucie
    Eliza Madrigal: Okay Mick, seems simple enough
    Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was a watchman
    Bleu Oleander: ok thanks Mick
    Mickorod Renard: or the valley of unity
    Mickorod Renard: yes, if u can focus on the watchman I would like to know what it means
    Mickorod Renard: I think its divided love
    Eliza Madrigal: divided?
    Eliza Madrigal: heaven/earth?
    Agatha Macbeth: Let's move them
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Mickorod Renard: well, for me i find it hard to love family and l
    Mickorod Renard: love outside in the way the book goes
    Mickorod Renard: soz, typos
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Eliza Madrigal tries to decipher
    Mickorod Renard: what I mean is, a suffi has to drop everything
    Storm Nordwind sees someone typing "soz" for the first time in years ;)
    Mickorod Renard: even his clothes almost
    Agatha Macbeth: Ha
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Eliza Madrigal: I see that, Mick
    Mickorod Renard: but can this book take account for normal family lives
    Storm Nordwind: A total abandonment of everything else.
    Eliza Madrigal: even time
    Mickorod Renard: I can see its posible to remove some of the fears and stresses that are unwarranted in a family life
    Eliza Madrigal: when I was younger I could sort of romanticize that these figures gave up everything, but as I've gotten older I think more of those they gave up
    Mickorod Renard: and trust more and taste the flavour of goodness
    Eliza Madrigal nods
    Mickorod Renard: yes Eliza
    Eliza Madrigal: maybe there is sorrow in it either way
    Mickorod Renard: in tsk we talked alot about attachments etc
    Storm Nordwind: I gave up everything at one point in my life. I lived in a religious community with nothing to my name. It destroyed all my family relationships by the way. I'm not there nowadays, as you might guess.
    Mickorod Renard: dropping and seeing the greater space etc
    Bleu Oleander: I never saw the wisdom in that myself
    Mickorod Renard: wow Storm, thanks for sharing that
    Eliza Madrigal: in the APAPB model, there is detachment via appreciation, of what is 'here' perhaps
    Storm Nordwind: Coincidentally, I read "Birds" at that time
    Agatha Macbeth: Drop everythingto see what you don't have
    Eliza Madrigal: Storm, wow... yes...
    Bleu Oleander: interesting Storm
    Eliza Madrigal: hard won wisdom
    Storm Nordwind: 40 years or more ago since I reentered the world.
    Mickorod Renard: This is where I am trying to get I think,
    Bleu Oleander: wb :)
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Storm Nordwind: haha! Thank yo Bleu. You have me laughing out loud!
    Bleu Oleander: ha!
    Eliza Madrigal: I've given up things related to this kind of learning, but more that I came to see everything differently
    Agatha Macbeth: To me that's like curing toothache by cutting your head off
    Mickorod Renard: grin
    Mickorod Renard: so, what can we take from this type of reading for our modern lives?
    Bleu Oleander: great question Mick
    Eliza Madrigal: it is hard because I think sometimes you do have to be willing to lose all, or, just keep the feeling of pull/division
    Agatha Macbeth: Patience?
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Bleu Oleander: sorry but I have to go ... will enjoy reading the rest of the log
    Bleu Oleander: bye all :)
    Eliza Madrigal: bye Bleu :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Bye Bleuji
    Mickorod Renard: bye Bleu, thanks for coming
    Bleu Oleander: bye bye
    Agatha Macbeth adjusts the horizontal hold
    Storm Nordwind waves
    Eliza Madrigal: well, to my picture last week, if the space ship comes, are you going? :))
    Mickorod Renard: yeh, the pull /division
    Agatha Macbeth: The Enterprise?
    Mickorod Renard: I wouldnt want to leave my grandkids
    Agatha Macbeth: Me either and I don't even have any
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Storm Nordwind: You'll miss the Rapture , Mick ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: but this kind of book in a srtrange way keeps me balanced
    Agatha Macbeth: You stand on it?
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Storm Nordwind: Balances it on his head
    Agatha Macbeth polishes Mick's head
    Storm Nordwind watches the sparks fly
    Mickorod Renard: otherwise I would allow my altruism to overtake me
    Eliza Madrigal: perhaps one can take away that it is important to make 'times' and 'retreats', to live life in a way that appreciates its transience
    Agatha Macbeth: Call me Al
    Mickorod Renard: and give everything and every minute to them
    Mickorod Renard: yes, I go out some nights
    Agatha Macbeth: Good for you Drac
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Eliza Madrigal: in a way, you are dropping attachments by being there for them Mick, even as you wrestle with it?
    Eliza Madrigal: you aren't choosing one solid path
    Mickorod Renard: thats true, all my usual vices
    Storm Nordwind: Love is less about what you feel and more about what you do. You do the best by your grandkids and set them an example. What more could they want?
    Agatha Macbeth: Chocolate
    Mickorod Renard: yeh, I might be a bad example
    Agatha Macbeth: Awww
    Eliza Madrigal: am sure not :) or not just
    Eliza Madrigal: ;-)
    Agatha Macbeth: An anti role model?
    Mickorod Renard: I spoze the underlying question is, how far crazy has this world gone?
    Storm Nordwind: I strongly doubt the hoopoe is setting a better example than you Mick.
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Agatha Macbeth: Strictly for the birds
    Mickorod Renard: well, this is it, do we still have morals to stand by, or are they old fashioned?
    Storm Nordwind: That is a huge topic Mick!
    Mickorod Renard: or, does the book still holding values?
    Storm Nordwind: Can't help with answering right now. I also have to depart.
    Eliza Madrigal: which set of stairs will you take?
    Agatha Macbeth admires Mick's huge topic
    Storm Nordwind chuckles
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,time for me to go too
    Eliza Madrigal waves to Storm
    Agatha Macbeth: Nice bounce Stormy!
    Mickorod Renard: good q Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: yup.... thought to absorb everyone's clarity but am leaving perplexed, haha
    Mickorod Renard: thanks for the session chat etc
    Storm Nordwind: Bye my friends. Travel safely :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Mickorod Renard: byeeeeeee
    Agatha Macbeth: Purrplexed?
    Agatha Macbeth: Surely not Liz
    Eliza Madrigal: puplexed
    Agatha Macbeth: Hoopoeplexed
    Eliza Madrigal: THAT!
    Agatha Macbeth: YEP!
    Eliza Madrigal: *hugs*
    Agatha Macbeth: Hurgies

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