2019.02.11 07:00 - Yellow, the forbidden color to Spain

    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.


    Riddle Sideways: Eden should be in Cuba having the most fun anybody from the frozen Canada can have in the sunny beach in Feburary ㋡
    Riddle Sideways: Adams IM'd a note that a huge storm is scheduled for tomorrow. The larger family is gathering, going supply shopping and playing toddler fun during this session time :))
    Riddle Sideways: The local computers were all taken down, repaired, patched, messed with, partially fixed, mended, etc. over the entire weekend.
    Riddle Sideways: Results are the main desktop is stuck in a M$ Windows reboot-scan issue.
    Riddle Sideways: laptop is now healthier and ready for next step in dual-boot setup. need Linux for AGI work.
             An IM session with Xirana, including the following and then at the pavilion.

    [07:25] Riddle Sideways: Hi, hope all is fine with you.  Been hearing news of Catalonia, protests, etc. etc.
    [07:26] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): hi Riddle! yes...no worries...we have our catalan politiciens in jail for a year without trial...and now it will start... we don't trust Spanish justice at all...
    [07:27] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): they have build a story about rebellion with violence that has never existed...so we will see what happens...
    [07:28] Riddle Sideways: Googling gives lots of different stories.  hard to pick facts, truth and story out of all of them.  So situation is normal
    [07:28] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): the only violence was the Spanish police trying to stop a referendum about independence :)
    [07:29] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): they say it was illegal....but it only can be charged as 'disobeying'
    [07:29] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes...it's full of confusing news...also in Spain
    [07:31] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): the catalan politiciens that went to exil had had trials in Germany, Belgium and Ireland...and all of them have said they were not guilty of rebelion...they are free everywhere except  in Spain
    [07:32] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): and we are scared about the ultra-right parties getting votes...
    [07:32] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): catalans, gays, women...all what we have get after Franco's death may go back again to repression...
    [07:33] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): we feel Franco was never death...well he died, but all people around him has still the power
    [07:34] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): we must do a revolution like in France ... :)
    [07:34] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): 1789 :)
    [07:34] Riddle Sideways: that was pretty bloody
    [07:35] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): yes
    [07:35] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): we are trying the peacifically way
    [07:35] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): :-)
    [07:36] Riddle Sideways: is it ok if I edit some of this into the PaB chat log for readers to how you and yours are doing?
    [07:36] Xirana (xirana.oximoxi): sure, of course :)


    Xirana Oximoxi: 's current display-name is "Xirana".
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Xir ㋡
    Xirana Oximoxi: hi rid :)
    Riddle Sideways: did not mean to take you away from new gallery or art creations
    Xirana Oximoxi: no...I was trying clothes :-) long time I did not play with it :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: I've found this sweater in my inventory ...I like it :)
    Riddle Sideways: just that small slices of news about your country were heard between our mr.T stories
    Xirana Oximoxi: mrT?
    Riddle Sideways: nice sweater
    Xirana Oximoxi: ty :-)

    Riddle Sideways: and comes with Pokemon shoulder friends
    Riddle Sideways: our News cycled are all about US pres., chaos, conflicts, issues
    Riddle Sideways: blah blah
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes:) I call it Yellow ...it's a forbidden colour in Spain now...it simbolises our protests having our politiciens in Jail
    Xirana Oximoxi: there was a song about a yellow ribbon...
    Riddle Sideways: Funny, a color (yellow) is now a protest
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes... I agree with Harari when he sais that if we want good news we will have to pay for it...
    Riddle Sideways: "tie a Yellow ribbon round the old oak tree"
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: while news are controlled by big media...all are manipulated
    Riddle Sideways: yes! even the 'Free World' US News is in the hands of like 4 (or 6?) controlers
    Xirana Oximoxi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-RlLFxgCkk
    Xirana Oximoxi: the song :-)
    Riddle Sideways: thanks... but heard it toooooo much when it came out and am sick of that song
    Xirana Oximoxi: ahh ok :) it was not so famous here

    Riddle Sideways: wondering if clicking and reading the Al Jazeera news feed about Catalonia will give a different angle and get our NSA (hi Bob) watching this computer
    Xirana Oximoxi: maybe even BBC...alll much better than Spanish news
    Xirana Oximoxi: they don't allow international observers during the trial ...
    Xirana Oximoxi: and they will control the news ....they don't want Spain to be seen as a false democracy...
    Riddle Sideways: it is sort of like years ago people use to have secret short-wave radios to listen to the news from far away countries
    Riddle Sideways: right... no observers reporting
    Xirana Oximoxi: well... here we still have the Catalan tv and news....they do the best they can, but the rest of Spain has a completly point of view

    Riddle Sideways: at least you have your Art to take out your feelings into
    Xirana Oximoxi: ahh yes...and I go walking and enjoy reading etc. :)
    Riddle Sideways: how can others releive stress and troubles
    Xirana Oximoxi: at the moment is all quiet in the streets...we will see what happens depending of the results of this trial
    Xirana Oximoxi: some people is angry...they say we live too well...so we have too much to lose so we will not fight for our rights
    Riddle Sideways: well, sometimes it is good NOT to relieve the inner tension and turn it into action
    Xirana Oximoxi: to vote for self-determination is a recognised right... for exemple

    Riddle Sideways: so it is somewhat like the french protests that happen every weekend and then are nice during the week?
    Xirana Oximoxi: at the moment we do just some demostrations....
    Xirana Oximoxi: mostly supporting people in jail
    Riddle Sideways: good. violence is bad

    Xirana Oximoxi: but if you want to have some power to change things maybe you need to stop the economy, if not...no one pays attention
    Xirana Oximoxi: I mean general strike
    Xirana Oximoxi: but...this is not so easy ...
    Riddle Sideways: ok, you didn't mean stop the economy to get a wall built
    Xirana Oximoxi: nooo :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: I saw some reportages about the 'wall'...and the interests around it...it was Wol who shared it on FB
    Riddle Sideways: don't have the PaB FB page/connections. and don't do FB really any more. Friend called phone last week to ask why no response to the last year's worth of posts
    Xirana Oximoxi: I think there is not a Pab fb PAGE
    Riddle Sideways: oh ok
    Xirana Oximoxi: I am friend of some pabbers :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: I will look for you :-))
    Riddle Sideways: and the Friends list has so many divergent groups, relatives, special interests, music (local and far), etc.
    Riddle Sideways: is a mess

    Xirana Oximoxi: I have FB, Twitter, Instagram.... it is tiring if you want to really follow all
    Xirana Oximoxi: I usually have a quick look ... Twitter for politics, Instagram for pictures and share images...
    Riddle Sideways: don't want to Follow All. not sure what to think about a high school friend's cat photos.

    Xirana Oximoxi: I will go now Rid! It has been nice talking with you! :-)
    Riddle Sideways: however, daugther's Instagrams of newest Art is amazing
    Xirana Oximoxi: hahaha :-))
    Riddle Sideways: yes, and keep us informed
    Xirana Oximoxi: you've made me laugh with you 'cat' comment :-)
    Riddle Sideways: wish y'all well
    Xirana Oximoxi: yes...thanks a lot for your interest :-)
    Xirana Oximoxi: take care too! :)
    Xirana Oximoxi: bye for now!
    Riddle Sideways: bye

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