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    Nov 22 - 24, 2009, scribing by Eos

    2009.11.22 01:00 - Operating in PaB


    Quite an interesting discussion of the nature of Play as Being

    Vendy Walpole: I am surrounded by flowers, what happens?

    Vendy Walpole: Is this new landscaping or SL game ?

    Moon Fargis: both and neither of both :

    Moon Fargis: :)

    Vendy Walpole: Hm. well, I do not mind to sit among flowers, that I call a beautiful morning

    Stargate Tone: ah yes...star learned at very early age that she must not plan 'anything' 'ever'

    Calvino Rabeni: Hello PAB people!

    Vendy Walpole: I read somewhere that the chaos is not so bad actually

    Vendy Walpole: Because it is the step before the sorting things

    Vendy Walpole: so, it is neseccary at some stage to be in chaos even :)

    Stargate Tone: ...even to create the mess...

    Stargate Tone: (star is very good with that)

    Vendy Walpole: (vendy is not bad as well)

    Stargate Tone: smiles widely

    Vendy Walpole: giggles

    Moon Fargis: hmmm it was more simple at the begining, wch is naturally as pab growed by people, but it turned from a, meditation prcatise into a intellectual brainstorming expression war sometimes

    Vendy Walpole: can't we have the both at the same session?

    Vendy Walpole: there is time for meditation and discussion

    Stargate Tone: practicly that's been also possible

    Moon Fargis: ah i dont mean discussion, there here always loots of babbling goingon :)

    Moon Fargis: but people started over the time to express natural happenings my them with scientific expressions and unnessesary much analytics which drives them often into the trap that their ego blocks their way of free feeling and a open mind

    Vendy Walpole: I understnd what you say, well, each of us should try to be focused to the main point and share own eperience about practice with others

    Moon Fargis: but, hmm let me give a example, still feel everytime not verry well when i hear this expression once made in pab: "Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being"

    Vendy Walpole: hmm, not sure I get it

    Vendy Walpole: do you understand it Moon?

    Bertram Jacobus: why not moon ?

    Bertram Jacobus: and vendy - for me , i can reduce that sentence to one word : appreciation ...

    Moon Fargis: well i know the background so yes i have a idea about it, but this sentence is a expression of a special state archived by one who practised pab and tryd to express it with it intellectual mind instead with the feelings, then such sentenses appear

    Moon Fargis: let me quote this from the Pab page at the hint section : For starters, we can consider the following working hypothesis: all that appears is (in some sense yet to be explored) presented by Being. A way to work with this working hypothesis is to do the following homework: Appreciate the presence of appearance as a presentation by Being. In many different situations, take a moment: consider all that appears both inside your own thoughts and feelings as well as in the world outside of you, and simply appreciate their presence while considering them as given (in some sense; the sense may shift) by Being.

    What is Being, What is Play as Being?

    Vendy Walpole: just got a thought, how could we explain the Being best?

    Stargate Tone: no matter if the being is 'different'...

    Vendy Walpole: is there any close explanation of Being?

    Moon Fargis: is there any reason to explain being ?

    Bertram Jacobus: isn´t it clear by itself vendy ? being ? simply being ? without any mysticism ?

    Vendy Walpole: well, I would love to hear how other see it?

    Moon Fargis: :)

    Moon Fargis: just be

    Moon Fargis: and never stop to be

    Bertram Jacobus: i hope, my expression satisfies you vendy (?) :-)

    Vendy Walpole: thinking of it still :)

    Vendy Walpole: so, when we play as being what happens?

    Stargate Tone: star is curous why...

    Vendy Walpole: why thinking star?

    Stargate Tone: well...to star that expression means 'pretending'

    Vendy Walpole: play as ?

    Stargate Tone: that 'to play as being'

    Bertram Jacobus: when we are successful in doing that i guess, we come to a form of "pureness" - may be comparable with "pure consciousness" ?

    Moon Fargis: awareness

    Stargate Tone: well...as to star to be is 'just to exist'...and there's no option to chooce after one has choocen to receive the present; own life...

    Vendy Walpole: I read the log where was explained the difference betwen pretending and playing cause it was something I wanted to make clear to me

    Stargate Tone: so...star cannot understand that anybody could play to be as the being...

    Vendy Walpole: as i understood it, can't say, totaly, it is same as - go to being state

    Vendy Walpole: or play

    Vendy Walpole: anybody want to share own pratice?

    Stargate Tone: which kind of practice you mean ?

    Moon Fargis: 15 seconds waking up then napping again :)

    Vendy Walpole: playing as being

    Vendy Walpole: in your everyday life


    Stargate Tone: well; I learned to play to be various kind of beings in SL using different kind of Avatars...

    Stargate Tone: as to me it's to play to be for example the cat

    Vendy Walpole: Aree there various kinds of beings Star really? I believe it is one being

    Vendy Walpole: no matter what avatar we have, the being is same

    Stargate Tone: well...I'm not a cat, but a human kind being

    Vendy Walpole: yes, that is what i thought

    Moon Fargis: *mews*

    Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss

    Stargate Tone: **************

    Vendy Walpole: no matter what is your profession or nationality, the being is still one

    Vendy Walpole: same

    Vendy Walpole: or I am wrong?

    Stargate Tone: ah yes; but meant that we can play in SL

    Moon Fargis: yes sure you cant be someone else

    Vendy Walpole: you can believe you are someone else

    Vendy Walpole: but your true be is same

    Moon Fargis: thats possible yes

    Stargate Tone: is there truly limitless space in Universe for anybody to exist ?

    Bertram Jacobus: my impression is yes star

    Stargate Tone: do U Bert know some philosophy to be as the philosophy of PaB ?

    Bertram Jacobus: i think yes vendy

    Moon Fargis: bert: more or less yes :)

    Bertram Jacobus: i expected such a comment moon (!) ;o)

    Calvino Rabeni: Star, part of it is to see everything that is, as natural, and see the being in it wothout trying to control it

    Vendy Walpole: I am just thinking how these snowflakes help me stay in present moment


    2009.11.22 07:00 - Ungathered Together


    Wol Euler: death certainly is less worrying than the thought of a decade of helpless decrepitude 

    arabella Ella: that is so scarey Wol 

    Wol Euler nods soberly. 

    Adams Rubble: if we focus on the present we can accept anything 

    arabella Ella: yes ... our being here and now 

    Adams Rubble: Then it is what it is 

    Adams Rubble: decrepitude is something we have, not what we are 

    Adams Rubble: or may have (giggles) 

    SophiaSharon Larnia: :) 


    2009.11.22 08:00 - detail and wider focus : Guardian Meeting


    Our topic for today which Maxine suggested: the possible strain between the focus upon detail and the 'wider' focus

    Maxine Walden: My own experience is that when I am trying to practice that my mind just 'feels' less focussed, sort of like letting me eyes go soft, as they say in yoga.

    Maxine Walden: And this softer focus seems to allow more access to a wider range of experience. Very different for me from the more 'sharp-eyed' focus I need when I have to think of details. Quite strikingly different in my experience

    Maxine Walden: The wider focus is inclusive, gathering in, as it were, while the sharper focus differentiates detail, notices differences perhaps

    Eos Amaterasu: "soft eyes".... that rest, not "wandering eyes"

    Eos Amaterasu: keeping eyes soft and "rest loose your mind, neither hold it nor permit it to wander" is itself a "practice"

    Eos Amaterasu: not anti-detail.... though there is a spectrum

    Eliza Madrigal: yes and a settling in/finding balance...

    Eos Amaterasu: maybe also taking responsibility for guarding that softness, personally - makes rigid guidelines less necessary

    Maxine Walden: agree, Eos

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Maxine Walden: 'guarding the softenss' suggests different 'textures' of experience co-residing

    Storm Nordwind: It is a whole life skill, to be able to juggle such disparate textures. As with any skill, some people like structured rules and others much less so


    2009.11.22 13:00 - On Forgiveness


    Comments by Maxine Walden

    Mickorod Renard: is forgivness a good quality or is it just a load of bull to keep people tame?

    Not being quite sure but sensing this as an important question to Mick, I try to check.  The following discussion reveals the many perspectives on forgiveness depending upon the state of mind of the one considering offering forgiveness

    Maxine Walden: Mick, is that a serious question you are raising?

    Mickorod Renard: yes

    Mickorod Renard: isnt it appropriate?

    Eliza Madrigal: forgiveness for others is a gift we give to free ourselves... not to be cliche' ...

    Wol Euler nods to Bolo. Agreed, it's for our benefit, not theirs.

    Mickorod Renard: so its selfish?

    Wol Euler: it gives us closure, frees us from carrying anger and resentment

    Eliza Madrigal: No, the self can't do it.. impossible for the self

    Eliza Madrigal: maybe

    Bolonath Crystal: not neccessarily so, mick

    Bolonath Crystal: it is a psychological cleaning

    Mick expresses the common concern of those caught in identifying with the resentment or pain stirred by the offending issue which is needing to be forgiven: forgiveness seems to be a betrayal of that pain or grief

    Mickorod Renard: I do pretty well with it,,but I do think people take advantage of it,,and I am not a natural forgiver,,it takes lots to control whats inside me

    Wol Euler: well, forgiveness doesn't mean that you forget :)

    Mickorod Renard: I have truly forgiven heaps,,and forgot,,but some things I feel I was expected to forgive or ,,the alternative was terible

    Wol Euler: ah, so yur question is about coercion, not about forgiveness...

    Mickorod Renard: I wonder whether forgivness is perhaps a conspiracy to control the masses

    Maxine Walden: Forgiveness 'or else', in some circumstances. Mick? Yes, does seem like coercion, as Wol suggests

    Maxine Walden: Ah, what does that mean, Mick, conspiracy?

    Eliza Madrigal: The best thing may be to be able to forgive and fully be present in that forgiveness, which implies honesty... maybe not 'fluffy'...something real

    Eliza Madrigal: I'm half kidding, but I do think this is why we practice letting go of what we have (maybe problems, grudges, confusions, anger) to see what we are..

    Wol Euler: forgiving someone for thier actions is NOT the same as condoning what they did.

    Mickorod Renard: its very easy to forgive ones own children,,but can you see that you could forgive anything?

    Maxine Walden: Perhaps Mick feels that he has to cover over, or quell angry, or aggressive elements and 'forgive' the other for having stirred up those angry aspects.

    Maxine Walden: But if the angry aspects do not get some respectful recognition, but Mick, he might feel hoodwinked, or foolish about bypassing them in so-called 'forgiveness'

    Mickorod Renard: dificult to say,,I just think that I have forgiven lots,,and wondered whether I am being duped

    Maxine Walden: Wonder if we are trying to think about our acceptance of our own feelings, wrath, anger, resentment, etc... before 'forgiveness'

    Eliza Madrigal: there is perhaps a difference between pretending to forgive and honestly trying and there is still something that seems to stick.. takes a while to keep letting go

    Wol Euler: I think the disagreement is about one word :) Storm said that thte benefits of forgiveness acrue *solely* to the forgiver, Adams thinks the forgiven also benefits.

    Storm Nordwind: Indeed Wol. The point is that the forgiver no longer has to face the consequences of a future action of retaliation or lesser grudge

    Storm Nordwind: So the benefit is with the forgiver


    2009.11.22 19:00 - Neuro-linguistics Programming


    Eden Haiku: There is a point where I'm so immersed in what I do that I forget everything else and I become one with the public. It happened once very clearly and it was so exhilarating that time that I can still remember the taste of it. It is still an inspiration.

    Eden Haiku: Obly 7% of communication goes through words according to LPN.

    stevenaia Michinaga: LPN?

    Eden Haiku: Neuro-linguistics programming,

    stevenaia Michinaga: thx

    Calvino Rabeni: NLP typically

    Calvino Rabeni: If you want to look it up

    Eden Haiku: 38% of the message goes through the tone of voice, 55% through body-language.

    Eden Haiku: Yes, in French the acronym is different, I mixed up words, sorry.

    Calvino Rabeni: Want link?

    doug Sosa: I used to tell my student therapists to listen/watch their clients as if the therapist did not understand the language and had to rely on sight and body and tone.

    Calvino Rabeni: http://nlpuniversitypress.com/index.html

    Calvino Rabeni: doug are you an NLP trainer

    doug Sosa: no way. i think they are fascists. sorry. the aim is manipulation, not 'truth"

    Calvino Rabeni: Anyway, I like NLP as a theory, but have reservations in practice

    Archmage Atlantis: To examine, to question ....this is who we are, I think

    Calvino Rabeni: always

    Calvino Rabeni: anyway Eden,sorry to give offense - but I think I stopped short of using a word like fascist

    Eden Haiku: I'm just careful with words.

    Calvino Rabeni: That is a caring way to be


    2009.11.23 01:00 - Nyet.


    There was no session at this time.


    2009.11.23 07:00 - Reporting


    Deleting names of speakers when scribing:

    Gaya Ethaniel: I on purpose delete names of the speaker ... hope that's ok with you. 

    Eliza Madrigal: I think it is interesting to delete the speakers' names... maybe sometimes when we are reading we have filters based on our impressions of personalities? 

    Eliza Madrigal: So I asked Gaya about highlighting: "We are seen, but unseen We are here but not here We are" 

    Kallie Kira: There seems a sense of trust in not hurrying or adding... 

    Gaya Ethaniel: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Scribe..._Gaya%27s_Pick

    Pema Pera: there are perhaps two kinds of trust, related to our earlier discussion about relative vs. absolute 

    Pema Pera: usually we trust based on something 

    Pema Pera: some kind of guarantee 

    Pema Pera: some ground 

    Pema Pera: but what this mysterious "Being" points to is the option to trust on a kind of groundlessness 

    Pema Pera: very mysterious :-) 

    Pema Pera: unconditional trust 

    Pema Pera: no conditions attached 

    Gaya Ethaniel: Both are needed ... I don't think just one. 

    Pema Pera: yes, sure! 

    Eliza Madrigal nods..yes I just asked myself "Why do I trust this process here at PaB, so much at times... I can't base that on previous experiences... every day is new...so yes, that tension causes me to then surrender into a kind of larger framework which landed me here.... 

    Pema Pera: Being is what gives the impression of things existing 

    liza Madrigal: :) It seems a bit like the risotto Gaya and I talked about one day... time allows something to cook...us really... that we can experience something hm..in a satisfactory way... the meal is eaten, gone, but a satisfaction is revealed? 

    Vendy Walpole: I'm wondering is there such state like unconditional trust? Even for it, we need some prior sort of evidence, feeling, intuition or something to tell us, yes, that is it! 

    Pema Pera: it is not a state, a state is something relative . . . . 

    Pema Pera: in general, better to report new experiences rather than trying to remember old ones 


    Eliza Madrigal: Well, during this exploration I saw myself as very clumsy...very limited....unprepared....shy, but then a kind of sense of elegance was shining through that during Being Seeing... so nearly the opposite experience I'd say... that I was there in Being/Being in me... a sense of unfolding embeddedness.... more 'there' there 

    Eliza Madrigal: like tragedies which have happened I can see... but without the frantic trapped feeling.... 

    Eliza Madrigal: I can feel them and actually look rather than avoiding... and cry...and let it go.... 

    Pema Pera: thank you, Eliza, the part about `shy' and `cry' is very touching; opening up to Being corresponds to that `softness' that Maxine talked about yesterday morning. 


    2009.11.23 13:00 - A Strangeness, Sometimes


    SophiaSharon Larnia: am I missing text, or are we all extraordinarily quiet today? 

    Scathach Rhiadra: :) 

    Wol Euler grins and nods 

    Vendy Walpole: I must say this is an unusual but interesting experience for me 

    Vendy Walpole: sitting with many people in silence 

    Stim Morane: we can talk about the 9-sec practice instead, if some of you wish. 

    Archmage Atlantis: That is a good thought Stim, please do 

    Stim Morane: OK ... the main thing re that practice is to do it. 

    Wol Euler: someone recently suggested a new time for doing it, between being interrupted and getting back into work. 

    Stim Morane: the interstices, Wol? 

    Wol Euler: exactly. Taking advantage of a naturally occuring break 

    Stim Morane: one way to shed it (the momentum of a pressing task) is to take the task at hand more appreciatively, make IT be the 9-sec break 

    Stim Morane: what has become familiar about the 9-sec practice? What is new? Any comments? 

    Vendy Walpole: being returned to now, here, is rather familiar 

    Stim Morane: uh huh 

    Stim Morane: and "new"? Do you feel a strangeness, sometimes? 

    Stim Morane: For instance, a sense of "I'm not 'me' ", "I'm not sure who I am" ... 

    Vendy Walpole: The strange and new for me is being aware how much we all are connected in fact 

    Stim Morane: great 

    Vendy Walpole: do you have the same feeling? 

    Stim Morane: yes, love it ... it 


    2009.11.23 19:00 - Gratitude and non-violence


    Eden Haiku: So maybe we can focus on gratitude?

    Eden Haiku: On the next 90 secs I mean?

    Fox Monacular: gratitude is a good topic

    Eos Amaterasu: William Blake: "gratitude is heaven itself"

    Eden Haiku: ;-)

    Eden Haiku: Maybe if we focus on one small thing we are greatful for today?

    Eos Amaterasu: No need to go anywhere else, or change anything to anything

    Eos Amaterasu: buddhists talk about being grateful to all sentient beings, who have been our mothers

    Fox Monacular: today at work I was doing some brainless data manipulations and was listening to a Berkeley lecture on Bhagavat Gita and ethics of inaction in action

    Fox Monacular: http://academicearth.org/lectures/gi...life-purpose-1

    Eden Haiku: When the lecturer in this video you linked us to Fox, when he says that non-violent people do not stay away from conflict all the time.

    Eos Amaterasu: not avoidance

    Fox Monacular: just like in Bhagavat Gita

    Eden Haiku: Yes, not avoidance.

    Fox Monacular: Arjuna still has to go into battle

    Calvino Rabeni: I like in the story, how deeply felt was Arjuna's dilemma proposed to krishna

    Eos Amaterasu: How would you state that, Calvino?

    Fox Monacular: but his actions are not carried out because of his personal enmity, but rather non attached to result, because it's his dharma

    Calvino Rabeni: He presented great anguish openly that he could be called to slay members of his clan.

    Eos Amaterasu: yes, a harrowing story....

    Calvino Rabeni: He was innocent about it

    Eos Amaterasu: That story contains one of the heaviest lines in all of literature:

    Fox Monacular: right, non doing in doing

    Fox Monacular: which line, Eos?

    Eos Amaterasu: "when one prefers one's own children to those of another, then war is not far away"

    Fox Monacular: yes

    Fox Monacular: tough one

    Calvino Rabeni: And they took a long time to build it up

    Eden Haiku: It is like Christ saying; I did not come to bring peace amongst you but the sword.

    Calvino Rabeni: It was not taken lightly

    Eos Amaterasu: so being not afraid to meet the edge of something

    Eden Haiku: Power of Kali.

    Eos Amaterasu: even something like the fearsome reality of karma

    Calvino Rabeni: Fierceness, discriminating will

    Eden Haiku: Shiva dancing destruction of the world.

    Eos Amaterasu: but at the same time, without aggression

    Calvino Rabeni: Wasn't there a quote from Stim about wrath?

    Fox Monacular: :)

    Eos Amaterasu: satyagraha : truth force

    Eos Amaterasu: much better word than non-violence

    Eos Amaterasu: it's positive: meet the situation

    Eos Amaterasu: I think we could try that in the next 90 secs :-)

    Calvino Rabeni: Are there emotions or energies you wouldn't want to explore in this group?

    Eos Amaterasu: (a trick question :-)

    Fox Monacular: I'm not sure:)

    Calvino Rabeni: Something to look at.

    Eos Amaterasu: that's another great one for the 90 secs!

    Eden Haiku: I like satyagraha as a topic.

    Calvino Rabeni: Depends on HOW it is done, i suppose

    Calvino Rabeni: Please describe it - so I will have a handle on it.

    Eos Amaterasu: how to approach something without destroying it?

    Eos Amaterasu: how to meet something without anger

    Calvino Rabeni: Things happen very rapidly when one is out in public

    Calvino Rabeni: surrounded by many people

    Eos Amaterasu: More willingness to more energetically be there, in the space of perceptions, in just open space

    Calvino Rabeni: I was noticing the way I would meet people through gaze

    Calvino Rabeni: In a public place. In a glance. Almost no time for thinking thoughts.

    Calvino Rabeni: And yet.. There wass a quality of satyagraha in the conection

    Calvino Rabeni: in a way that surprised me

    Calvino Rabeni: which was, I felt that to gaze but not be present, was to destroy something that needed to be

    Calvino Rabeni: so in otherwards, not-doing in the wayh I am used to it, would have been doing

    Calvino Rabeni: I mean, passivity

    Calvino Rabeni: Does this make sense?

    Eos Amaterasu: so satyagraha was to gaze and to be present?

    Calvino Rabeni: Yes

    Calvino Rabeni: It reversed my usual definition of what is doing.

    Eos Amaterasu: I think there is an energy and a force required to be present

    Eos Amaterasu: and which also seems to come from the presence

    Calvino Rabeni: it feels that way surely

    Calvino Rabeni: but a kind of energy passes between people

    Calvino Rabeni: in a case like that.

    Fox Monacular: bye everyone

    Eos Amaterasu: Gratitude!


    2009.11.24 01:00 - Learning to make the perfect cup of tea


    Gaya Ethaniel: I think if one is open, right opportunities appear at right time :)

    Calvino Rabeni: This happens, if I wait long enough :)

    Gaya Ethaniel: :) I don't think being open means just waiting.

    Gaya Ethaniel: I think we know when we see it ... not sure if we can accurately expect what sort.

    Gaya Ethaniel: Often from unexpected quarters ... I guess what I mean is there is a balance between being active yet not obscuring ... waiting yet not stationary.

    Calvino Rabeni: THe hole in the center of the wheel is what makes it useful, not the spokes

    Wester Kiranov: I would think you need both

    Calvino Rabeni: Yes, it is important to master a skill.

    Gaya Ethaniel: Yes cross germinating :)

    Calvino Rabeni: But when you master one, truly, you master many.

    Calvino Rabeni: Right.

    Calvino Rabeni: there is a saying - Show me a man who can make a perfect cup of tea, and I will show you a man who can do anything.

    Gaya Ethaniel: :)

    Wester Kiranov: I think that's a good idea - master one thing and let the rest flow from that.


    2009.11.24 07:00 - Do you want Fries with your Reality


    How about exploring "How do you 'do' who you are". 


    2009.11.24 13:00 - A Confabulous Session


    Wol Euler: that was a really good discussion on Sunday, such a pity you had to leave early.

    Mickorod Renard: who me?

    Wol Euler: mmhmm, we were talking about forgiveness

    Mickorod Renard: oh yes

    Mickorod Renard: you know, I hope nobody takes me too serious,,I do play the devils advocate a bit

    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow

    Mickorod Renard: just to stimulate lialog

    Mickorod Renard: diolog

    Calvino Rabeni: BUt on that topic, I've been interested in confabulation theory

    Wol Euler raises an eyebrow.

    Mickorod Renard: whats that please?

    Wol Euler: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/...ulation_theory

    Qt Core: i'm thinking about the connections of this motion-based intelligence and the birth of sense apparatuses

    Calvino Rabeni: Introspection, yes, observing having an experience, that sensation and movement are completely inseparable

    Calvino Rabeni: yet in theory our classic models separate them completely


    2009.11.24 19:00 - Magnetic movement minute capture



    Eos Amaterasu: Hello, I wasn't really here

    Eden Haiku: ;-)

    Eos Amaterasu: I got seduced by To Ramona (Bob Dylan, Sinéad Lohan)


    Your magnetic movements 

    Still capture the minutes I'm in.


    Eos Amaterasu: How's that for an approach to the 90 secs?

    Eden Haiku: I kept thinking about the magnetic movements of this Kashmiri man I met in India a few years ago...

    Calvino Rabeni: I think Eden's question has more eros in it.

    Eos Amaterasu: Eden, do you have a haiku for 90 seconds?

    Eden Haiku: Sure: let me remember one...

    Eden Haiku: 

    Pixels sitting still 

    Our names bright over our heads 

    We share our visions


    Eos Amaterasu: Wow, Eden, I went into that 90 seconds with a broad smile

    Eos Amaterasu: wide angle vision

    Eos Amaterasu: that's not afraid of any detail

    Eos Amaterasu: the vision is not separate from the detail

    Calvino Rabeni: it could wrap around behind you and scoop you up

    Eden Haiku: Greta! Listening Calvino

    Eos Amaterasu: yes, so wide-angle it precedes you

    Eos Amaterasu: you seeing being seeing

    Eden Haiku: 

    Mind clogged by my mess

    I decide to clear my desk

    And go for a walk


    Eos Amaterasu imagines Eden clearing her desk :-)

    Eos Amaterasu: every detail is limitless phenomenality

    Eos Amaterasu: is wide-angly seeing

    Calvino Rabeni: I made an animation - now I am no longer the complete newbie

    Eos Amaterasu: Cool!

    Eden Haiku: Can you show it to us Calvino?

    Calvino Rabeni: SUre, look

    Calvino Rabeni: _/|\_

    Eden Haiku: Beautiful Namasté! Wow!


    Eos Amaterasu: I think a bowing animation would be apropos sometimes

    Eden Haiku: _/!\_

    Eden Haiku: I have one I think...Bowing the head...

    Eos Amaterasu: like as a way to enter and leave a PaB circle if you didn't want a flurry of hi/byes

    Eos Amaterasu: deeep agreement :-)

    Eden Haiku: How abou this Eos...

    Eos Amaterasu: let bow to the next moment

    Eos Amaterasu: interesting quality of awareness to bowing

    Eden Haiku: So we are back to magnetic movements aren't we?

    Eos Amaterasu: aware and acknowledging and letting be

    Eos Amaterasu: heh heh

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