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    The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.
    -- William Shakespeare

                                                               2010.05.07 01:00 - Orange is the new black 

    Wol Euler: so, calvino, your os_eckhardt15.jpgrangeness becomes you.
    Calvino Rabeni: The outfit is comfortable, if monochromatic
    Wol Euler smiles.
    Wol Euler: there's a famous portrait of Shakespeare in 3/4 view, in which he's wearing a little simple ear-ring
    Wol Euler: we should get you one of those. It would set off your face and the shape of your head perfectly. IMHO
    Calvino Rabeni: Perfectamente
    Wol Euler: that too :)




    2010.05.07 07:00 - The Meep Koan: Feeling How We're Seeing the Center 

    Zen Arado:

    Dizang asked Fayan, "Where are you going?"

    Fayan said, "Around on pilgrimage."

    Dizang said, "What is the purpose of pilgrimage?"

    Fayan said, "I don't know."

    Dizang said, "Not knowing is most intimate."

    Eden Haiku: Where did we start, anybody remembers?
    Eliza Madrigal: hehehe
    Fael Illyar: in single processor systems it's simple thing to implement. Only that one processor will cause changes to happen. But when you go into multiprocessor, you start needing increasingly complex tricks to know when the cache is old
    Zen Arado: reminds me of the Victorian philosopher JS Mill
    Eliza Madrigal: Insight! :)
    Eden Haiku: I remember feeling lost trying to follow you going in all different directions pointing to the same center...
    Eliza Madrigal: I feel lost... but kind of happily lost
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    Fael Illyar: meep meep! :)

    2010.05.07 13:00 - technical issues,less sillyness and a long log
    pablito Steampunk: whats the difference between building and scripting?
    Agatha Macbeth: You have to be clever to do the latter ;-)
    Wol Euler: building makes an object that just sits there
    Wol Euler: scripting makes the object perform actions
    Wol Euler: (to put it simply)
    pablito Steampunk: ah yes i see what you mean
    Agatha Macbeth: Buliding is the wu wei version ;-)
    pablito Steampunk: like the object is there to play with
    pablito Steampunk: what have you scripted in the past?
    Wol Euler: well, I made the autologging system that records our conversations
    Agatha Macbeth: Yep!
    pablito Steampunk: nice, from scratch (scripting)?
    Agatha Macbeth: Her claim to fame :)
    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    2010.05.07 19:00 - Various Games 

    Lucinda Lavender: may we all have the courage to fully embody the avatar...

    Calvino Rabeni: Remember the days when we could claim it proudly ...
    Calvino Rabeni: "I'm a little Tea-Pot"
    Lucinda Lavender: claim what?
    Lucinda Lavender: oh!
    Calvino Rabeni: One person here has an avatar that looks like a tea tray
    Calvino Rabeni: Laden with goodies as I recall

    Lucinda Lavender: If you were going to serve something ...something that is your gift...what might it be
    I wonder....
    kenji Pookes: pizza

    2010.05.08 01:00 - Glimpses 

    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, it seems to be the human condition to grasp at everything
    Bertram Jacobus: my impression is, unhappyness comes from being apart and happyness from being united
    Scathach Rhiadra: can you say more?
    Bertram Jacobus: yes

    2010.05.08 07:00 - Clint Eastwood 

    Calvino Rabeni: Which would be to question the purpose of art
    Calvino Rabeni: We say it is useless - that liberates it from consumerism, probably a good thing
    Calvino Rabeni: Or liberates it from the production fetish of the economic system of which consumerism is an expression
    Calvino Rabeni: But is it really useless :)
    Woolcinder Oxidor: these were Wildes words...Oscar Wildes
    Woolcinder Oxidor: he said one can forgive a man for making a useful thing as long as he does not admire it
    Woolcinder Oxidor: the only excuse for making a useless thing is that one admires it intensely
    Woolcinder Oxidor: there is so much wisdom in his word play 

    2010.05.08 13:00 - Are you In or are you Out

    SophiaSharon Larnia: It did occur to me this week, that if there is such a thing as an 'infinite', then"we" have already gotten it right.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: this thing we call life, this interaction that we have
    Darren Islar: can you say more?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: but thats a floaty type of thinking that I cant apply to real life :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, infinite possiblilities, infinite worlds in all the combinations, in one of them we are enlightened, or the world is happy

    2010.05.09 01:00 - Woodheads drinking beer

    Moon Fargis: well i dont know if spirituality can help calculating math :)
    Moon Fargis: but for example
    Moon Fargis: what is 4048 : 4 ?
    Bertram Jacobus: 1012
    Moon Fargis: good :)
    Darren Islar: right
    Qt Core: knowing the basic of the tech we use is a must but with the entireness of the knowledge being so big we found ourselves in need to shred something (from the mid section) to teach the upper section that people would meet everyday
    Moon Fargis: who needed a calculator for that ?:)
    Bertram Jacobus: easy - spiritaulity CAN help i guess - because it brings clearness, too

    2010.05.09 07:00 - A Fixer-upper 

    Adams Rubble: I haven't looked for a few days at the spreading of the oil. It is an awful situation

    Adams Rubble: we humans are good at making messes
    Adams Rubble: lets hope we can do something soon
    Adams Rubble: to stop it and then clean it up
    Archmage Atlantis: Well, disaster seems to be our learning mechanism.....except when we don't learn at all :)
    Adams Rubble nods
    Adams Rubble: like when we decide all the extra strorms are due to the Maya predicting the word will end in 2012 rather than a symptom of global warming

    2010.05.09 08:00 - Guardian Session: 'About Time'
    Eos Amaterasu: Eden did this last Saturday, with a haiku report after each 15 mins: http://bit.ly/9fBpGw

    Eden Haiku: Would others like to join the experiment on Saturdays?
    Eden Haiku: Even though we are supposed to do it all the time...

    Lucinda Lavender: I would think it interesting done on one day together ...also tho it would be interesting to see what comes at certain times of day for perhaps teams of people

    Widget Whiteberry: wait! we don't believe time 'exists'?

    Calvino Rabeni: Who can say that, honestly?
    Eden Haiku: What do you mean by "time" Widget?
    Zen Arado: it exists if we think it does
    Eden Haiku: ;)))

    Eos Amaterasu: I think, therefore I have time 

    2010.05.09 13:00 - Words as greater treasures

    Eos Amaterasu: I'm discoverying that through reading a translation in another language of a text I know
    Eos Amaterasu: it's like finding further riches that were not quite expressible in the first language
    Qt Core: as usually words in different languages aren't 100% corresponding you notice the differences when reading a translation, noticing whet you lost or what you gained
    Maxine Walden: so interesting, eos, and do you find also that when you think you are thinking/saying something to others  or just oneself, that sometimes you take detours as well, saying things you had not really been thinking about? sort of hard  to know all of what one is thinking?

    Eos Amaterasu: yes, Maxine, it often seems there's an intention you're following when you say something, which is not "articluated" before you say it, and so the process of trying to say it draw out stuff in there you handn't known before
    Maxine Walden: agree, eos
    Mickorod Renard: yes, i can understand that eos
    Eos Amaterasu: and the model planes were for Mick a phenomenal experience that spoke more than just themselves?
    Maxine Walden: so maybe we have the illusion of our thoughts being defined by the words we use, but that really not being the case
    Eos Amaterasu: we use words or art to convey being
    Eos Amaterasu: model being
    Maxine Walden: :))

    Maxine Walden: many languages it seems and during the 90 sec just now I 'heard' the birds of SL, and thought of the RL natural sounds, language of vastness,the breathing of the trees, etc. Different ways Being 'speaks'

    Eos Amaterasu: what is Play as Being in Italian?
    Qt Core: something like giocando ad essere
    arabella Ella: ah ... with connotations for La Gioconda Qt ... the italian name for the Mona Lisa :)
    Qt Core: sometimes i find that the best translation could be "far finta di essere" more like "fake to be"
    arabella Ella: how would you say it in French Eos?
    Eos Amaterasu: jouez a la existence (doesn't quite do it - Eden would know)

    2010.05.09 19:00 - Where does practice "come from"?

    Mitzi Mimistrobell: I see you are a "cultivator" ... of consciousness I believe. ?
    Calvino Rabeni: It's a group label for playasbeing
    Calvino Rabeni: I think they meant, something PaB guardians do
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: So the metaphor of gardening has been on my mind ... I didn't realize that ... very nice though
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: How the simple actions and how we do them each day carve their groove in our psyche
    Calvino Rabeni: Gardening provides a rich ground of metaphor, yes?
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: ... as in neural networks ... each state provides the stage for the next to evolve from ... watching that ... planting seeds in terms of actions and focus that have effects on the next state, and so on ...
    Calvino Rabeni: Maybe metaphors need to be preserved, like languages that are fading away
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: I'm inspired actually ...
    Calvino Rabeni: Tell me please
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: Well , I feel that I can change and improve my daily state, that I have the tools and attitude
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: ... to help generate more subtle and expanded, joyful and nuanced moments
    Calvino Rabeni: That's nice to acknowledge, isn't it?
    Calvino Rabeni: You said it really well too, in my opinion
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: it's all originating in that first moment of awakening, being careful to move from there to stay body-aware, integrated, open
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: Yes, it's a relief. I had kind of felt I didn't have the right stuff to go there, and a sense of sadness or loss about that
    Mitzi Mimistrobell: Now I feel like I have the tools and it's not so difficult. I'm in a rather good spot actually from where to approach cultivating that type of daily awareness.

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