2010.03.20 19:00 - The YouTube/Wikipedia path to enlightenment

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    Your host for this meeting was Agatha (Late Night) Macbeth. The comments are by selfsame being.

    Yours Truly turned up for her first GoC session at 18:45 SLT to be on the safe side. As it happened Pila had the same idea.

        Agatha Macbeth: Well I'm sitting in for Pema so i thought I'd better get here early ;-)
        Pila Mulligan: aha
        Pila Mulligan: getting tuned in ...
        Agatha Macbeth: I've never done this before, can you take the log  now?
        Agatha Macbeth: Or do you have to wait?
        Pila Mulligan: it seems to be recording already, so I'd suppose it can be claimed
        Agatha Macbeth: I'll take a look
        Pila Mulligan: seems ripe for the picking
        Pila Mulligan: there ... done
        Agatha Macbeth: Aha
        Pila Mulligan: the rest is fun too -- posting it
        Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
        Agatha Macbeth: Well I'll worry about that bit later
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: :)

    Stage One successfully negotiated :)

        Pila Mulligan: aren't you in England?
        Agatha Macbeth: Yes
        Agatha Macbeth: It's 2am here
        Pila Mulligan: isn't it kind of late there now?
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: almost 4 pm here
        Agatha Macbeth: But I'm used to being up late on saturday night
        Pila Mulligan: ok
        Agatha Macbeth: So it doesn't really bother me
        Agatha Macbeth: Actually I've been to this slot before at 3am
        Agatha Macbeth: But it's an hour earlier due to DST
        Pila Mulligan: before the dst thing
        Pila Mulligan: funny how uncooridnated thee world can be
        Agatha Macbeth: You don't change in Hawaii do you?
        Pila Mulligan: no, we never change
        Agatha Macbeth: Bleu said they don't change in Arizona either
        Pila Mulligan: have you been to Hawai`i?
        Agatha Macbeth: 'Fraid not
        Pila Mulligan: I've never been to England too
        Agatha Macbeth: I know it's a lovely place tho
        Pila Mulligan: it has it's nice parts
        Pila Mulligan: some very intense nature here
        Agatha Macbeth: The weather is the big plus of course
        Pila Mulligan: yes ... I live n a rainforest
        Pila Mulligan: so it is often rainy
        Pila Mulligan: as it is now
        Agatha Macbeth: Wow
        Pila Mulligan: comparable to much of what I've heard about England :)
        Agatha Macbeth: We'll I'm used to rain here :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth nods
        Agatha Macbeth: Makes you wonder tho...
        Agatha Macbeth: if Hawaii and Arizona don't change time...
        Agatha Macbeth: why does everybody else need to?
        Pila Mulligan: well, I've wondered that too ... is the counterpart of daylight savings time daylight wasting time?
        Agatha Macbeth: :) Probably!
        Pila Mulligan: I think the idea may have been to get farmers more work time in the summer
        Pila Mulligan: but that's just a guess
        Agatha Macbeth: Possibly yes

        --BELL--

        Agatha Macbeth: Money has to play a part somewhere
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: I think there is no ending bell for the fist 90 second pause
        Pila Mulligan: as I recall
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh
        Agatha Macbeth: Not sure about that...
        Pila Mulligan: I guess the rationale is that people are just getting settled and started
        Pila Mulligan: so no one pays attention to it
        Pila Mulligan: anyway
        Agatha Macbeth: Probably not
        Agatha Macbeth: Everybody's too busy saying hello to notice
        Pila Mulligan: yep
        Pila Mulligan: do you have a meditation practice Agatha?
        Pila Mulligan: or yoga or anything?
        Agatha Macbeth: Not really
        Agatha Macbeth: I don't seem to get much time for that sort of thing
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: usually that's the problem
        Agatha Macbeth: And you?
        Pila Mulligan: yes, I do ... I'm in the category of traditional practitioner
        Agatha Macbeth: Ah right
        Pila Mulligan: Chinese
        Agatha Macbeth nods
        Agatha Macbeth: Does it have a name?
        Pila Mulligan: but I had to make time, so I start early
        Pila Mulligan: I do meditation from a book (the Secret of the Golden FLower) and tai chi and I Ching
        Pila Mulligan: I Ching is the seminal Chinese philosophy
        Agatha Macbeth: Yes, I've heard of it
        Pila Mulligan: yin yang etc
        Agatha Macbeth: I thought it was some kind of divination process?
        Pila Mulligan: well, that is its reputation
        Pila Mulligan: but in fact it is deeper than that
        Agatha Macbeth: But here's more to it than that...
        Agatha Macbeth: yes I see
        Pila Mulligan: it is the repository and reflection of 6000 years of studying yin and yang
        Agatha Macbeth: So you can't tell people their fortune then? :)
        Pila Mulligan: oh, many people use it for that :)
        Pila Mulligan: not me :)
        Agatha Macbeth grins
        Agatha Macbeth: Yin/yang is like Male/female?
        Pila Mulligan: yes, but again it goes deeper -- it is the insight into a dualism that pervades nature
        Agatha Macbeth: I see
        Pila Mulligan: a complementary duality
        Pila Mulligan: whole = sum of parts
        Agatha Macbeth: More like dark and light then?
        Pila Mulligan: yes, all those pairs are part of it
        Agatha Macbeth: Complimentary opposites
        Pila Mulligan: yep
        Agatha Macbeth: Got it
        Pila Mulligan: and then how they play together to make the 10,000 things
        Pila Mulligan: and old phrase for everythiing
        Agatha Macbeth: Why 10,000?
        Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure, probably at the time that was cvonsidered a humongous number

    Stevenaia arrives, complete with fetching pink hairflower (!)

        Pila Mulligan: hi Steve
        Agatha Macbeth: Hello Steve
        stevenaia Michinaga: hello Agatha, Pila
        Pila Mulligan: how are you?
        stevenaia Michinaga: oppp, didn't mean to arrive on you
        Agatha Macbeth giggles
        Pila Mulligan: no harm done
        Agatha Macbeth: Ara does that to me all the time :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: I am good, busy day of gardening in out 1st 70 degree day
        Pila Mulligan: oh how nice
        Agatha Macbeth: Eek
        stevenaia Michinaga: napped, now I am here in the quiet :)
        Pila Mulligan: 70 F :)
        Pila Mulligan: soounds like a nice day then
        Agatha Macbeth: What happened earlier Steve, did you crash?
        stevenaia Michinaga: yes, if you like multch
        Agatha Macbeth: You suddenly disappeared
        stevenaia Michinaga: seems I got distracted and had to leave, sorry Agatha
        Agatha Macbeth: Ah
        Agatha Macbeth: Thought it was tech probs
        stevenaia Michinaga: but I always return...eventually
        Agatha Macbeth: Bad penny?
        stevenaia Michinaga: :)
        Pila Mulligan is fond of multch ... and compost, too
        Agatha Macbeth: Well I've claimed the log so that part went ok

    (Phew!)

        Pila Mulligan: Steve is the helper for these things you know
        Agatha Macbeth nods

        --BELL--

        Agatha Macbeth: A good person to know :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: I help when I don't make a mess of things
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh I can manage that myself ;-)
        stevenaia Michinaga: have you been a guardian long, Agatha, our paths have not crossed much
        Agatha Macbeth: Er, no only about two weeks actually
        stevenaia Michinaga: aww, welcome in that case
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Thank you :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: time goes by quickly here
        Agatha Macbeth: I thought I'd have a go at this to see what it was like
        stevenaia Michinaga: nice of you to sep in to posting logs so soon
        Agatha Macbeth: Yes
        Agatha Macbeth: Well I thought it might be a good time
        Agatha Macbeth: to start learning that is
        stevenaia Michinaga: yes, I still have posting issues now and then after more than a year
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh I'll worry about that bit tomorrow :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Where it says 'Hello Agatha, add your e-mail address to the Autologging system by saying it on channel 17'
        Agatha Macbeth: Do I have to do that now?
        stevenaia Michinaga: well look me up if things get out of hand
        Pila Mulligan: it would help
        Pila Mulligan: to get it done
        Pila Mulligan: to be sure you get the log :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Right
        stevenaia Michinaga: yes, now is good if you haven't done it before (ever)
        Agatha Macbeth: ok
        stevenaia Michinaga: it gives you (another) link to the log after the session ends if you crash or don;t stay for the entire session
        stevenaia Michinaga: If something happens, Wol can reserect any claimed log
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh, Wol can do anything :))
        stevenaia Michinaga: nods, one of our miracle workers
        Agatha Macbeth: Sure is
        Agatha Macbeth: A *very* good person to know
        stevenaia Michinaga: what part of the world are you from Agatha?
        Agatha Macbeth: England
        Agatha Macbeth: The rainy place
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: how's your tai chi practice doing, Steve?
        stevenaia Michinaga: first time this year I did it outside, it was very nice
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: my teacher's teacher is having a special class tomarrow that I think I will attend
        Pila Mulligan: sounds nice
        stevenaia Michinaga: I'm begining to need more room to do the form than my hause or office has without running into walls
        Pila Mulligan: what's the teacher's name, if I may ask, please
        Agatha Macbeth: :)
        Pila Mulligan: IM if you like
        Pila Mulligan: or ignore if you prefer :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: I need to look it up on her website
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: there was just one of those sessions at a feind's class on Maui -- a big shot teacher visted

    (A feind's class? Mephistopholes is into Tai Chi?)

        Pila Mulligan: genuine big shot :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: Sifu Andy
        Agatha Macbeth: Not the Dalai Lama then?
        Agatha Macbeth: :)

    (Sorry)

        Pila Mulligan: ahh, Sifu Andy :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: you know the name?
        Pila Mulligan: well, Sifu is Master and Andy is Andrew
        stevenaia Michinaga: nods
        Pila Mulligan: but there must be dozens of them
        stevenaia Michinaga: :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: Andy Cappuccio, actually

        --BELL--

        Pila Mulligan: thanks
        Agatha Macbeth: Sounds like coffee
        stevenaia Michinaga: yes
        stevenaia Michinaga: nother reason to go
        Agatha Macbeth: Sorry, that's cappucino isn't it?
        stevenaia Michinaga: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Never touch the stuff myself
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: well, it will be helpful to hear the teacher's teacher comment on what you are learning
        Pila Mulligan: get some persepctive
        stevenaia Michinaga: the more I do, yoga, Tai Chi, iChing, the more I find my associate who I share my office with has had a deep exposure to these things
        Pila Mulligan: this you are just learning or this your associate is getting now also
        stevenaia Michinaga: she will be bringing me some iChing books she used next week
        Pila Mulligan: oh, nice
        stevenaia Michinaga: I am learning my associate has done this years ago
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: small world syndrome
        stevenaia Michinaga: and is well we have been friends for decades, nothing surpises me

    (From enlightenment, we now return to technical issues)

        Agatha Macbeth: Is the recorder supposed to send you a test message then?
        stevenaia Michinaga: the first time, I believe so, has it?
        Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure Agatha
        Agatha Macbeth: Well I keep looking at my inbox and can't see anything yet
        stevenaia Michinaga: I am not sure as it only sends it once,
        Agatha Macbeth: Hmm
        stevenaia Michinaga: what I usually do is grap the link when you claim it and just refresh the weblink sometime after the session is complete and the text will all be there
        Agatha Macbeth: Ok
        Agatha Macbeth: I'll try that then
        Agatha Macbeth: Thanks
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: All very technical...
        stevenaia Michinaga: if you read the instructions, it actually gets worst
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh god
        Agatha Macbeth: That's reassuring!

    (Wow, cheers Steve! Fill me fulla confidence why not?)

        Agatha Macbeth wonders what she's got herself into
        Agatha Macbeth: Ha!
        Agatha Macbeth: Found it
        Agatha Macbeth: For some reason it was my bloody spam tray already
        stevenaia Michinaga: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Honestly
        Agatha Macbeth: Well that's ok then
        Agatha Macbeth wipes her brow

      Stage Two successfully negiotiated

        Agatha Macbeth: Actually it's done that with PaB mails before
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: I should have thought to check...
        Agatha Macbeth: How long have you been at PaB then Steve?
        stevenaia Michinaga: almost 2 year, I think I met Pema about a month after they started
        Agatha Macbeth: Whoa
        Agatha Macbeth: So you've been in almost from the start?
        stevenaia Michinaga: almost
        stevenaia Michinaga: I was just at dinner with some of the Guardians last night in Priceton which is relatively close to me
        Agatha Macbeth nods
        stevenaia Michinaga: met Strom and Hanna for the 1st time, he is an impressive individual in person
        stevenaia Michinaga: Storm, rather
        Agatha Macbeth: An impressive person in SL too no less!

        --DING!--

        Agatha Macbeth: What he has created here is amazing
        stevenaia Michinaga: it holds a special place in me, everchanging and ever captivating
        Agatha Macbeth: Mmm
        stevenaia Michinaga: and met some wonderful people, jabs Pila
        Agatha Macbeth: Indeed
        stevenaia Michinaga: how did you find the group?
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Well, totally by accident really
        Agatha Macbeth: I landed at Hanja welcome area and came north
        Agatha Macbeth: and ended up here
        stevenaia Michinaga: yes, that would be us :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Serendipity I guess
        Agatha Macbeth: Though at first I wondered what was going on
        stevenaia Michinaga: if you are interested in how others speak about PaB , the Chronicals are a series of interviews
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh I have read most of the chat logs :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Chronicles
        Agatha Macbeth: Some pretty amazing stuff
        stevenaia Michinaga: nods
        Pila Mulligan: the chat logs are the meat, the chronicles are a dessert
        stevenaia Michinaga: :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: meet and meat
        Agatha Macbeth: Oooh, I see
        Pila Mulligan: yep
        Pila Mulligan: this is a well=documented activity :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Ah yes, just looking at them in Opera now
        stevenaia Michinaga: It took me a while to understand the relationship of PaB and me
        Pila Mulligan: what do you understand?
        Agatha Macbeth: I'll look forward to reading that! :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: then I settled in comfortably
        Pila Mulligan: Steve is one of the most equanimous I've never met
        stevenaia Michinaga: I understand that some things... interests, life quests, aline with an indivuals makkeup... sort of like.. taking the right train to point unknown
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh yes, definitely
        stevenaia Michinaga: see, I learned a big word tonight, thank you Pila
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Big word?
        stevenaia Michinaga: equanimous

       One of SL's prettier Avs now puts in an appearance....

        Pila Mulligan: hi Paradise
        Agatha Macbeth: Hello Paradise :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: you didn;t mean never, did you Pila
        Paradise Tennant: smiles hiya pila gtsy .. steve ..agatha :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: or was that freud slipping through your fingers
        Pila Mulligan: Equanimous
        Pila Mulligan: in full control of your faculties; "the witness remained collected throughout the cross-examination"; "perfectly poised and sure of himself"; "more self-contained and more dependable than many of the early frontiersmen"; "strong and self-possessed in the face of trouble"
        Agatha Macbeth: Thought that was something relating to horses :)
        Pila Mulligan: we have never met, so I could not say ever met :)
        Pila Mulligan: yet
        stevenaia Michinaga: awww, well worded then
        Paradise Tennant: great word :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: Hi Paraidse
        Agatha Macbeth: On another plane perhaps?
        Pila Mulligan: it may relate to horses somewhere -- they can be even tempered to, but they also can be uneven tempered
        Pila Mulligan: horse to horse it varies :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Bucking bronco?
        Paradise Tennant: smiles
        Pila Mulligan: nipping mares
        Pila Mulligan: the horse next door is sweet as pie until she decides to be playful
        Agatha Macbeth: Do you ever ride her?
        Paradise Tennant: nice to have a horse next door :)
        Pila Mulligan: no one has ever ridden her, I recently learned
        Agatha Macbeth: Ah
        Pila Mulligan: and she is no pony
        Paradise Tennant: lol
        Pila Mulligan: big horse
        Pila Mulligan: it is nice Paradise
        Pila Mulligan: fun to watch her during the day
        Agatha Macbeth: Yes, a kick from a horse is not a funny thing
        stevenaia Michinaga: aww the root is Latin... equal-mind
        Pila Mulligan: nope
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: balanced
        Paradise Tennant: smiles at steve the latin always makes it clear :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Yes, it reminded me of 'equus'

        --BELL--

        Pila Mulligan: are you following the college basketball tournament Steve?
        stevenaia Michinaga: no
        Pila Mulligan: the favorite team just got beat in an early round
        stevenaia Michinaga: Lehigh lost (local team)
        Agatha Macbeth: Next question! :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: ok, maybe a little
        Pila Mulligan: it's not quite like English football :)
        Pila Mulligan: but draws a crowd anyway
        Agatha Macbeth: No, you can't kick people!
        Pila Mulligan: usually
        Agatha Macbeth: What kind of sport is that?
        Pila Mulligan: basketball?
        Agatha Macbeth: Mmhmm
        Agatha Macbeth: Now the NFL, that's a proper sport
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: IMHO
        Pila Mulligan: The Top 10 Basketball Fights in NBA History
        Pila Mulligan: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ent=firefox-a#
        Pila Mulligan: it can get rowdy
        Agatha Macbeth: Hardly ice hockey tho!
        stevenaia Michinaga: for someone with intermittant and slow internet, Pila, you sure whatch a lot of Youtube
        Agatha Macbeth: He has a lot of time :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Another PaB first: basketball players beating each other up!
        stevenaia Michinaga: Oh, Agatha, I aways copy my logs into a text editor and do a gentle spellcheck, but don;t use WORD
        Agatha Macbeth: Yes, Eliza warned me against that
        Agatha Macbeth: Wordpad is ok, yes?
        Paradise Tennant: smiles at pila's youtube venturing :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: don;t know about wordpad, I'm on a mac, but try it and watch the title formating
        Agatha Macbeth: Right.
        Pila Mulligan: I'd never seen the video before, just want to show basketball has it moments -- althought they are definitely not like ice hockey
        stevenaia Michinaga: if you wnat, once it's up I can take a look
        Agatha Macbeth: What is the Mac text viewer called then?
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh, thanks
        Agatha Macbeth: I'd appreciate that
        Pila Mulligan: as I recall getting the date and title right is important -- for indexing it to the right place on the summary page
        stevenaia Michinaga: Textedit
        Agatha Macbeth: Yes
        Paradise Tennant: when hockey is cleanly played ..it is all grace, coordination and speed :)
        Agatha Macbeth: I already read about that in the wiki notes Pila
        Pila Mulligan: yes it is
        Pila Mulligan: notepad works okay
        Pila Mulligan: in windows
        Agatha Macbeth: Thanks :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: if need be you can "MOVE the page, check the title and place the correct title at that location
        Pila Mulligan: but Paradise most hockey games seem to have their moments, too
        Paradise Tennant: yes
        stevenaia Michinaga: if it says "Page Title" as the document title
        Agatha Macbeth: ALL hockey games that I've seen
        Agatha Macbeth: Ok Steve
        Pila Mulligan: a lawyer friend played in college and his role was to instigate fights at the right time
        Pila Mulligan: ice hockey that is
        Pila Mulligan: at Princeton no less
        Agatha Macbeth: To encourage lawsuits?
        Pila Mulligan: to disrupt scoring runs by the opponent maybe :)
        Pila Mulligan: he was a undergard then
        Pila Mulligan: pre-ambulance chasing
        Paradise Tennant: it has become part of the culture .. but .. there are occassions where it does not happen :) the olympics eg
        Agatha Macbeth: Heehee
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: yes, it is fun to watch clean play
        Pila Mulligan: more fun in fact
        Agatha Macbeth: 'I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out'
        stevenaia Michinaga: like the Romans?...sigh
        Paradise Tennant: lol there were very funny pics of the canadian women's team after they won the gold .. very censored but .. they were quite cute and funny too :)
        Agatha Macbeth smiles
        stevenaia Michinaga: the drinking on the ice? Paradise
        Paradise Tennant: yes
        Pila Mulligan: I went to an appliance dealer and they were giving away a bank to each new customer
        stevenaia Michinaga: wasn't censored here
        Agatha Macbeth: Parad-ice?
        Agatha Macbeth grins @ Pila
        Pila Mulligan: grim humor

        --BELL--

        Paradise Tennant: no the pics were widely circulated but they were severely reprimanded ) for the drinking some were underage ... smiles at agatha :)
        Agatha Macbeth: 'Girls just want to have fun' :)
        Paradise Tennant: lol my thought exactly !
        stevenaia Michinaga: thought the drinking age in canada was 18, or is that just Quebec?
        Paradise Tennant: hmm not sure
        Paradise Tennant: use to be 21 here
        Agatha Macbeth: It's supposed to be 18 in the UK, but I still hear of 12-year-olds doing it
        stevenaia Michinaga: lol
        Agatha Macbeth: We do seem to be a nation of lager louts, sadly
        Pila Mulligan: but such good lager :)
        Paradise Tennant: smiles at agatha .. but brit beer is just so good .. rather understandable
        Agatha Macbeth: Well, yes......
        Agatha Macbeth: can't argue with that
        Agatha Macbeth: Personally i think it's the Irish influence ;-))
        stevenaia Michinaga: Storm, also a Britt, was very particular about the beer he drank
        Paradise Tennant: lol
        Agatha Macbeth hopes Zen reads this
        Paradise Tennant: smiles yep ..
        stevenaia Michinaga: he did avoid the Irish Stout (made in California, of course)
        Agatha Macbeth grins
        Agatha Macbeth: They make everything in California...
        Pila Mulligan: my old grandma used to say she had a lot of scotch in her blood
        Agatha Macbeth: Same as Japan
        Agatha Macbeth: :PPPPPPPPPP
        Pila Mulligan: I don't drink, but I've tasted tsingtao beer (Chinese) and it was pretty tasty
        Agatha Macbeth: 'I seem to have an excess of blood in my alcohol system'
        Paradise Tennant: smiles at pila ..hmm ... flowing spirit I bet your nana had spark :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: she had a scotch each evening and lived to be 94
        stevenaia Michinaga: a goal I can strive for
        Agatha Macbeth: That's the way to do it
        Agatha Macbeth: Who says drinking is bad for you?
        Paradise Tennant: everything in moderation .. I don't think it is :)
        Pila Mulligan: who says chocolate is bad for you :)
        Paradise Tennant: red wine is suppose to be good for you :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Dentists?
        Paradise Tennant: lovely
        Pila Mulligan: as is dark chohoclate
        Paradise Tennant: smiles even lovelier
        Pila Mulligan: ahh, yes, the teeth
        Paradise Tennant: :))))))
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh I get plenty of that Para :)
        Agatha Macbeth: (hic)
        Paradise Tennant: lol
        stevenaia Michinaga: and remember Agatha, the titling of this log is your key task
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Uh huh
        stevenaia Michinaga: no easy task
        Agatha Macbeth: Well I certainly have plenty of options!
        Pila Mulligan: needs the quintessnce of the content and Pulitzer lkevel pithiness
        stevenaia Michinaga: no pressure, mind you
        Agatha Macbeth: I'll see what I can do :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Paradise Tennant: pithiness ... to use Steve's term the book jacket version condensed
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh right
        Agatha Macbeth: Taking the pith?
        Paradise Tennant: smiles
        Agatha Macbeth: Well it's been a pretty long session tonight
        Pila Mulligan: yes it must be almost dawn in England now
        Agatha Macbeth: Most of the 13:00 ones fold up after an hour just recently
        stevenaia Michinaga: yes, what were you chatting about before I arrived an hour ago?
        Agatha Macbeth: Not far off
        Paradise Tennant: wow agatha you must be sleepy
        Agatha Macbeth: Good question...
        Pila Mulligan: rain
        Agatha Macbeth: No, not as long as my attention is focused
        Agatha Macbeth: I can go for ages, kind of

    (And I AM!)

        --BELL--

        Agatha Macbeth: The only time I get sleepy is when the external stimulation stops...
        stevenaia Michinaga: what do you do in England?
        Pila Mulligan: aside from lager
        Agatha Macbeth: Stay out of the rain?
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: and avoid raindrops
        stevenaia Michinaga: slow typing has its drawbacks
        Agatha Macbeth: That what me brolly's for
        Agatha Macbeth: Remember Mary Poppins?
        Paradise Tennant: remembers trying to run between them as a kid .. :)
        Paradise Tennant: not entirely successful ! but fun...

    A series of YouTube links now ensues. When you're running outta things to talk about at PaB, turn to YT! :)

        Pila Mulligan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmOI12oHqE
        Agatha Macbeth: Ah, the Swan of Tuonela just came on the radio
        Agatha Macbeth: I love this
        Pila Mulligan: 'Walk Between the Raindrops'
        Paradise Tennant: smiles :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Maybe we'll see Eliza
        Agatha Macbeth: Her part of the world
        stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-SJo2sOI_M
        Paradise Tennant: you were having dinner with the working group yesterday steve no ?
        Agatha Macbeth: Wow, where's the Titanic?
        stevenaia Michinaga: yes, yummy indian
        Pila Mulligan: in National Geographic
        Paradise Tennant: ahhh we went there in august ..great place :)
        Pila Mulligan: I love Indian restaurants
        Pila Mulligan: very few of them around here though
        Paradise Tennant: yes me too :)
        Paradise Tennant: we have lots !
        Agatha Macbeth: Plenty here!
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: I love 'em too
        Pila Mulligan: can you send me some ?
        Paradise Tennant: smiles
        Agatha Macbeth: Food or Indians?
        stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t eat Indian food much, but love it
        Pila Mulligan: some samosas maybe
        Agatha Macbeth: Had some today, as it goes :)

    (Ah, samosas washed down with beer, wow......)

        Pila Mulligan: Asians long ago proved how vegetarians can eat well
        Pila Mulligan: still being learned some places
        Paradise Tennant: hmmm been trying to go vegetarian for a long time .. now eat meat fairly seldom but have lots of seafood ..
        Agatha Macbeth loves seafood
        Paradise Tennant: cannot seem to go without meat entirely ..
        Agatha Macbeth: Me either
        Agatha Macbeth: Not that i ever really tried to be honest
        Paradise Tennant: don't know any barnyard animals but I suspect if I did ..it would be impossible to eat them ..
        Agatha Macbeth: Maybe Pila could eat that horse next door?
        Pila Mulligan: not likely :0
        Agatha Macbeth: Plenty to go around ;-)
        Paradise Tennant: have not been able to eat duck .. watch a family . of ducks grow up . they play games have a sense of humor .. how do you eat something with a sense of humor
        Paradise Tennant: smiles
        Agatha Macbeth: Dunno, ask a cannibal
        Paradise Tennant: lol
        Agatha Macbeth: :)
        Pila Mulligan: many old cultures celbrated a soul-to-soul relationship with the critters they ate
        Pila Mulligan: maybe the reverence make it okay
        Paradise Tennant: yes gave thanks
        Agatha Macbeth: 'Long pig'
        Agatha Macbeth: Bit like Stranger in a Strange Land
        Paradise Tennant: yes
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Pila Mulligan: grokking

    One of my all-time favourite books as it happens!

        --BELL--

        Agatha Macbeth: Thou art god water brother
        Pila Mulligan: never thirst
        Agatha Macbeth: :)
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Paradise Tennant: went to china town today ..bought astragulus ..just making tea with it mixed with ginger ..yummy :)
        Paradise Tennant: speaking of thirst
        Pila Mulligan: cool
        Agatha Macbeth: Astra-what?
        Paradise Tennant: liked travelling to a different country
        Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragalus
        Pila Mulligan: a Chinese herb
        Paradise Tennant: astragulus .. a chinese herb .. use if for tea .. mostly .. makes a nice tea :) alittle different very very healthy :)
        Pila Mulligan: or a herb used in China at least
        stevenaia Michinaga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astragalus

    If it ain't YouTube, it's Wikipedia folks!!!

        stevenaia Michinaga: opps
        stevenaia Michinaga: :P)
        Agatha Macbeth: Ah
        Agatha Macbeth: It's an 'erb is it?
        Paradise Tennant: schzandra too . though not sure of the spelling sometimes mix them both they are little berries quite sweet
        Paradise Tennant: lol
        Agatha Macbeth: I never get any more adventurous than paprika
        Paradise Tennant: smiles ..
        Agatha Macbeth: Tho I put salt on just about everything
        Pila Mulligan: I keep a shelf full of these herbs in bulk, in jars -- for tea
        Pila Mulligan: it is nice to add a little citrus peal with the ginger
        Paradise Tennant: if i have not idea what it is .. i always buy it and figure it out when I get home
        Paradise Tennant: hmm and dried lemongrass to green tea too
        Pila Mulligan: if you do it in small amounts you can get a feel for them
        Agatha Macbeth: And hope it's not poisonous...
        Paradise Tennant: the citrus is like a bergamot
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Paradise Tennant: lol yes agatha
        stevenaia Michinaga: laughs
        Agatha Macbeth: (Loud thud as Paradise hits the floor)
        stevenaia Michinaga: funny group tonight, we must do this again :)
        Paradise Tennant: lol
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh, funny is the word! (In every sense)
        Pila Mulligan: do you ever use stevia?
        Paradise Tennant: death by erb :)
        Pila Mulligan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia

    Again with the Wikipedia!

        Paradise Tennant: no never tried it
        stevenaia Michinaga: the sweatner?
        Pila Mulligan: a sweetener
        Pila Mulligan: yes
        stevenaia Michinaga: once
        Pila Mulligan: it is nice, for tea
        Paradise Tennant: kk
        stevenaia Michinaga: but I don;t use sugar much
        Pila Mulligan: it can be too much if you aren't careful
        Agatha Macbeth: Stevenaia and stevia?
        Pila Mulligan: yep, it is not sucrose
        Pila Mulligan: :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Good combo
        Paradise Tennant: mostly honey ..bought some great honey in scicily near mount etna .. so good the earth moves :)
        stevenaia Michinaga: they spelled it wrong
        Agatha Macbeth: All we need now is Stevie Nicks
        Paradise Tennant: loves stevie nicks ..what a great voice
        Agatha Macbeth: She can give us a song or two
        Agatha Macbeth: Me too
        Agatha Macbeth: Rhiannon....love that one
        Agatha Macbeth: That hairflower really suits you btw Steve

    And here comes...

        stevenaia Michinaga: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyWq25O2RbI
        Agatha Macbeth: Only thing about these long sessions....my butt goes to sleep!
        Paradise Tennant: lol
        Agatha Macbeth: Whoa!
        Paradise Tennant: thanks steve

        --BELL--

        Agatha Macbeth: I'm sure I watched this at the time!
        Pila Mulligan: good ol' Fleetwood Mac
        Agatha Macbeth: This was a solo performance IIRC
        Pila Mulligan: yep
        Pila Mulligan: but is also really has the spirit of the group
        stevenaia Michinaga: IIRC?
        Agatha Macbeth: If I Remember Correctly
        stevenaia Michinaga: :)
        Pila Mulligan: the group video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR_i0sKWKEA
        Agatha Macbeth: Wow
        Agatha Macbeth: That takes me back a bit
        Pila Mulligan: :) indeed
        Agatha Macbeth: Ah well, think I'd better be off tae bed folks
        stevenaia Michinaga: thanks for sticking around
        Agatha Macbeth: Thank God I don't have work tomorrow :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Oh it was worth it!
        Paradise Tennant: good nite agatha .. :) sweet dreams .. :)
        Agatha Macbeth: Hopefully all will work out with the log...
        Pila Mulligan: bye Agatha -- aloha `oe
        Paradise Tennant: easy as pie
        Agatha Macbeth: Goodnight all. Sleep well :)
        Pila Mulligan: well, Agatha got a big one for her first session

    (Can't beat a big one Pila! :PPPPPPPPPP)

        stevenaia Michinaga: hope she has fun annotating it
        Pila Mulligan: :)

    Oh I did, I DID!!! ;-)

        --BELL--

        stevenaia Michinaga: night all, getting slowly addicted to youtube

    (We noticed)

        Pila Mulligan: :) sweet dreams Steve (it is fun listneing/seeing the music)
        Paradise Tennant: i know it is amazing .. you can find a clip on  learning anything you would possibly want to know :)
        Paradise Tennant: nite nite steve
        stevenaia Michinaga: night
        Paradise Tennant: sleep well :)
        Pila Mulligan: nice to see you Paradise
        Paradise Tennant: yes good to see you on line
        Pila Mulligan: bye for now -- aloha 1`oe
        Paradise Tennant: are you still using the osim grid
        Pila Mulligan: sometimes -- not much though
        Paradise Tennant: aloha 'oe
        Pila Mulligan: it is still getting settled there
        Paradise Tennant: yes
        Pila Mulligan: bye
        Paradise Tennant: byeeee

    Maybe PaB should be thankful for YouTube and Wikipedia: could this be the new way to enlightenment? Watch this  space folks....


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    Originally written on 18:13, 21 Mar 2010
    Wow! Congratulations Agatha for your first log posting!Your comments are so sharp and hilarious. Thanks!
    Posted 22:31, 14 May 2010
    Originally written on 21:18, 21 Mar 2010
    Great posting Agatha! I love your writing style, Thanks!! :)
    Posted 22:31, 14 May 2010
    Originally written on 11:17, 22 Mar 2010
    Yay!!!
    Agatha, just fantastic.
    :)))))

    'selfsame being' indeed.... giggle
    Posted 22:31, 14 May 2010
    Originally written on 22:25, 22 Mar 2010
    Awww! Y'all are too kind :))
    Posted 22:31, 14 May 2010
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