Time Sessions for PaB Book "Exploring the Magic of Time" in the month of January

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    The Time sessions, that had begun in July, resumed on January 7 after a month hiatus. Pema had suggested in an email: "Tomorrow we will just talk freely about Time, from scratch, as if we had no idea of what time is (that part will be easy!)". The group got together and just talked.  Wol started out:

    Wol Euler: I can remember in perhaps 8th grade writing an essay on "Hamlet" and thinking about time, for the first time.
    Pema Pera: wow!
    Wol Euler: How odd it was to write about him in various times and tenses: at the beginning he's alive and at the end he's dead.

    The conversation then moved to time in history and time in art and other observations about time.

    Riddle Sideways: ah, Quiet, real quiet messes up Time 

    The time discussion continued into the nextscheduled PaB session at 7:00 am:

    Chi Aho: Time, I would say, is all in our perception. We've all had the experience of having time *seem* to just fly by - 2 hrs. seem like 5 min., and then we've had the opposite experience as in "When will this lecture end?"
    Wol Euler nods.
    oO0Oo Resident: mmm
    Zen Arado: subjectivity of time
    Aphrodite Macbain: time flies when you are not thinking about it
    Eliza Madrigal: yes... one day kinds of time feel like they are coordinating with one another and another day like crashing into one another..

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    The following week on january 14th, the group was to read the first three chapters, Part !: A Working Hypothesis, and discuss those. As the session unfolded, even as others expressed their thoughts too, it became clear that Bleu was working out some thoughts from her reading of the chapters and Pema was probing to find out what it was. The following is a short exerpt but the reader may want to go and read the rest of this session.

    Pema Pera: If I can get back to Bleu's comment: [06:39] Bleu Oleander: you seem to be saying that there is something I am missing and that to me is a continuum .... a sliding scale that is subjective: Yes, the main point of the first chapters is that there really is a break between seeing the world as existing (and you as a subject seeing the world as objects) and seeing the world as sheer appearance. I see no possibility for a continuum; where do you see such a possibility? Perhaps that will help us zoom in on the main difference between our views.
    Bleu Oleander: In many ways I don't see any difference between our views
    Pema Pera: I do, though, Bleu :-)
    Pema Pera: I see a sliding scale between mere appearance and existence
    Bleu Oleander: I acknowlege that it's me in the subjective sense that is doing the perceiving and the world as presenting
    Pema Pera: since mere appearance is what I call the way existent things appear
    Pema Pera: but sheer appearance has no room for a self/me/ego/subject
    Bleu Oleander: the sliding scale is how much we see the encounter as back and forth
    Pema Pera: so if you start by positing that there has to be such a thing (self or me or ego or subject) then you are likely to miss the "sheer appearance" that I am talking about
    Bleu Oleander: to me, without self/me there is no encounter either as perceiving or receiving appearance
    Pema Pera: but words are tricky . . . . .
    Pema Pera: correct, Bleu :)
    Darren Islar: :)
    Pema Pera: no encounter
    Pema Pera: more a given together
    Pema Pera: no en- or per- or re- or ex- . . .
    Pema Pera: nothing to bridge

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    Pema was traveling aand missed the January 21 session. The group was to read Part II: Opening Up, Chapters 3, 4, 5, 6. On Bleu's suggestion, the group discussed each of the four chapters in the four quarters of the hour.

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    For the next session on January 28, the assignment was to read Part III: A More Radical Approach, Chapters 7, 8, 9, 10. Some of the group attended the session while at the New Orleans Retreat. The session began with a discussion of playing as if nothing were missing. The group soon concluded the easiest was to do this was to play as a child.

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    Note: If this poor summary of complex ideas is beginning to sound intriguing, there is an index page to the Time session material (chapters, reports and sessions) here.

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