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    Stim Morane: Adelene, the experiment you describe of observing basic things about ordinary life is extremely important and open-ended in scope.
    Stim Morane: It's an ideal area to investigate, grounded, honest and bearing directly on the key point of the "agent self" view. "agent self" is the self as doer, performer of actions.
    Stim Morane: Studying this in ways we can actually find concretely is very grounded and honest, rather than abstract and unlikely to help.



    Pema Pera: different sense in different context. We can appreciate each context. The opposite of a great truth is a great truth too — but in a different context
    Pema Pera: but that doesn’t mean it’s all a wash — there really is a need for precision



    Pema Pera: ... the absolutely important thing here is to stick to it, to maintain continuity, whether working on a koan, or on a scientific problem, or with the PaB exploration. The sole reason for the 15-minute rule is to encourage this continuity.
    really searching, and yet letting go of the results, and letting them mature in due time

    Pema Pera: We all learn, Adams, from the way you learn from us!
    Pema Pera: the way you take to heart and try out



    Storm Nordwind: One thing that I really like about this Play as Being practice is that is centred on experience. We discuss these experiences later, perhaps try and theorise about them, but we are not tied to a particular model - unless we want to be individually.

    Wol Euler: one of the differences between this place and "religious" institutions is that we start from the position of not-knowing, and look at the world.
    Wol Euler: and there is nothing wrong with questions, on the contrary!


    • from: 2008.09.15 13:00 - Metta


    Stim Morane: What I meant here was simply that people must be honest about their own capacity for connecting to the Being in emotions like anger, and not espouse a view of such emotions that is beyond their capacity.



    Pema Pera: judgments like "distraction" and "illusion" are just that, judgments
    Pema Pera: but we can have a very meaningful conversation nonetheless when we choose to meet at a particular level of identification
    Pema Pera: if we speak on two different levels, confusion will abound :)
    Pema Pera: but if we agree on the framework, we can learn a lot

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