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PlayAsBeing Wiki > Chat Logs > 2010 > 10 > 2010.10.08 01:00 - Everything is truly magical & full of gods

*Wol Euler was guardian for this rather miscellaneous session.*

Wol Euler: So, dear Listener, here we are again.

Wol Euler: I've been thinking about retreats and formal meditation lately, for obvious reasons.

Wol Euler: Said obvious reason being that I have organized a RL retreat for Play as Being, meeting in Germany this weekend (for the wiki).

Wol Euler: As well as the sick excitement of wondering what I got wrong and when it'll become apparent, I have been remembering past retreats and how much I enjoyed them.

Crusty arrives, still wearing his Santa hat from last year.

Wol Euler: morning crusty.

Crusty Goldshark: hi

Wol Euler: still santa-fied, I see :) Keep wearing it, in two months you'll be in fashion again

Crusty Goldshark: that is the plan ;)

Wol Euler chuckles.

Wol Euler: I can't say the phrase "a simple plan" now without thinking of that Coen Brothers film :)

Crusty Goldshark: Not sure which film?

Wol Euler: ah! A simple plan.

In point of fact, the film is by Sam Raimi. No idea why I was sure it was by the Coens.

Wol Euler: very highly recommended.

Crusty Goldshark: don't know it . . .

Wol Euler: funny and brutal and very bloody

Wol Euler: put that on your netflix list

Crusty Goldshark: I will look out for it

Wol Euler: typical Coen Brothers: start with a really simple idea, follow it logically, and watch as everything goes to hell

Crusty Goldshark: ah wait a minute - does it involve a cupboard and murder?

Wol Euler: it involves an airplane and snow

Crusty Goldshark: no I don't know it . .

Wol Euler realizes how much snow there is in Coen Brothers films.

Wol Euler: they love winter. I'd never realized that before.

Crusty Goldshark: Snow is magical

Wol Euler nods.

Wol Euler: how are you these days?

Crusty Goldshark: not many people here - are the numbers down or variable?

Crusty Goldshark: I am OK

Wol Euler: variable, but 1am SL time is usually slow.

--BELL--

Crusty Goldshark: I here they are moving to a run in browser model - good plan

Crusty Goldshark: How are things with you?

Wol Euler: I'm pretty well thanks.

Wol Euler: going on retreat next week, looking forward to that

Wol Euler: like a holiday from myself

Crusty Goldshark: Buddhist ? Which tradition?

Wol Euler: Play as Being tradition :)

Wol Euler: non-denominational

Wol Euler: I organized it.

Crusty Goldshark: Where?

Wol Euler: we do RL retreats for the SL guardians, four times a year. This will be in Germany, near Heidelberg

Crusty Goldshark: Ah good news

Wol Euler: on a farm, miles away from anything

Crusty Goldshark: wonderful

At this point I had a random spontaneous crash.

Wol Euler: so, try that again

Crusty Goldshark: Been doing a practice dedicated to Hindu Deity Ganesh lately

Wol Euler: ah! do tell.

Wol Euler likes Ganesh.

Crusty Goldshark: Well my sister took a shine to Ganesh at the local temple, so I invoked him further, creating a program to chant and diplay his image in Puppy Linux

Wol Euler: heheheeh

Crusty Goldshark: She now has a statue of him - quite unusual for an atheist

Wol Euler: So do I actually :) Tiny, about an inch tall, standing on the base of my monitor at work.

Wol Euler: I don't know whether nobody has noticed, or whether they don't have the confidence to ask :)

Crusty Goldshark: Sadly I only have a virtual ganesh plus an image cut from a calander . . .

Wol Euler: give me your RL info in IM and I'll send you one :)

Wol Euler: do you know the ganesh temple here?

Crusty Goldshark: Oh gosh that is a great idea I will go visit the virtual elephant god

Wol Euler: it's as much a shop as a temple, but perhaps taht is appropriate. The mixture feels very Indian.

Eos joins us as the topic morphs into meditation.

Wol Euler: good morning Eos

Crusty Goldshark: also decided to do an hour of meditation for 10 days - that is getting easier - I am about half way through

--BELL--

Crusty Goldshark: Hi Eos

Crusty Goldshark: My plan was to be enlightened by the end of the week - and Friday is here - may take a little longer . . .

Eos Amaterasu: Hi Wol and Crusty

Wol Euler: well :) a week is perhaps a bit optimistic

Eos Amaterasu had fallen into the gap as he came in

Wol Euler: np

Wol Euler: you are in Paris?

Eos Amaterasu: Yes, on a beautiful morning

Wol Euler smiles.

Eos Amaterasu: Seem to be more songbirds here than in Nova Scotia

Crusty Goldshark: I am in London

Wol Euler: heheh

Eos Amaterasu nods to the left....

Wol Euler: perhaps they too like the city life?

Wol Euler: or perhaps htey just stand out because they are unfamiliar species and songs?

Crusty Goldshark: Elephants or the enlightened?

Eos Amaterasu: yes to both.... the social space of the city with trees

Back to Ganesh.

Wol Euler: (we were talking about ganesh earlier)

Eos Amaterasu: ah

Wol Euler: enlightened elephants

Crusty Goldshark: Well Ganesh is merely a God, I have him above the Buddha on my shelf/shrine but I think they get along fine

Wol Euler: perhaps they have compassion for each other.

Eos Amaterasu sees the ghost of Bleu

Wol Euler smiles.

Wol Euler: a puzzle, perhaps

Eos Amaterasu smiles

Crusty Goldshark: Ganesh has big belly and it contains all the woes of the world - I have 3 metta ray Buddhas who are also pot bellied . . . however they tend to keep the woes behind them

Crusty Goldshark: So it always seems that being aware of others suffering and being able to bear it - cheers even the gods up ;)

Wol Euler nods.

Eos Amaterasu: you mean "the gods are not like the rest of us"?

Crusty Goldshark: well I suppose there are imaginary gods, gods we entangle with - real gods are more ponderous and variable . .

Crusty Goldshark: What is your take on gods Eos?

Eos Amaterasu: "we are as gods and we might as well get good at it" - Stewart Brand, ca 1968

Wol Euler: heheheh

Eos gives me a title and a reminder.

Eos Amaterasu: but also everything is truly magical & full of gods as outpourings of the spirit

Wol Euler: true

Wol Euler: I was thinking of the descriptions of the internet gods in William Gibson's cyberspace trilogy

Wol Euler: he describes them as placeholders in our thoughts for real forces in the world and in us

Eos Amaterasu: aha!

Wol Euler: like moving a chesspiece that represents an army

Crusty Goldshark: I am probably not that good at being god, however I am advocating the creation of an AI cybergod

--BELL--

Eos Amaterasu: serious gaming

Crusty Goldshark: well I think gods should be more readly available as brain wifi with more powers and abilities

Eos Amaterasu notes that Being itself has said "Thank you"

Crusty Goldshark: however advertisers and other potential god owners are going to be a problem in the future

Wol Euler: gaming is serious, eos :)

Eos Amaterasu: it's the god behind my eyeballs I'm interested in

That was very nearly the title.

Eos Amaterasu: nobody can own that

Wol Euler nods.

Crusty Goldshark: LOL - that is what all the mortals think - so I am told

Crusty Goldshark: I think we are more owned than free

Wol Euler: perhaps, but the shackles were put on willingly, and we have the key

Eos Amaterasu: we are more not than are, aren't we not?

Crusty Goldshark: However moving beyond our limitations is very much the path . . .

Wol Euler: "free" is an ideal, a goal, like enlightenment

Eos Amaterasu: little moments are the way to taste "free"

Crusty Goldshark: LOL - no I do not buy the we are spirit manifest story - rather I would say cicumstnce dictates our arrival and we decide how we will live within that partial being

Wol Euler: can't both be true? :)

Crusty Goldshark: of course but which of the both do we experience - if we are lucky both and increasingly we are aware of the indpendence of our own centrality . . .

Wol Euler: well, sure, experience is restricted to what we choose to do, and our understanding of what happened is restrictted to what we let ourselves believe

Crusty Goldshark: :)

Wol Euler: but we restrict ourselves, and could choose to do differently.

Wol Euler: which is why we are all here, now, right? :)

Wol Euler: learning how to un-restrict

Eos Amaterasu: the extent of our being able to tune itself is not independent

Eos Amaterasu: tune ourself

Crusty Goldshark: Not that I am aware of - this idea that we come here willingly seems to be contrary to the way consciousness arises and dissipates - it does not arrive from some central god pool - unless you know different?

Eos Amaterasu: no, I do not come here willingly, sir! (said dramatically)

Wol Euler frowns. Are you saying that we were constrained to come here by external force?

Crusty Goldshark: The external force is the dust that we arise from

Eos Amaterasu wonders where he was before he was born

Wol Euler notices the time. I have to leave for work, alas. Please continue, I've claimed the session.

Wol Euler: Enjoy your Fridays!

Crusty Goldshark: before you were born and after there tends to be no you as far as I am aware . . .

Eos Amaterasu: Thanks Wol and Crust, I must also depart!

Wol Euler: bye for now

Eos Amaterasu: bye

Crusty Goldshark: Bye guys

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