2012.03.18 19:00 - Night Spaces & Science Songs

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Calvino Rabeni. The comments are by Calvino Rabeni.

    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Korel :)
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Korel Laloix: What you been up to?
    Calvino Rabeni: today, I went for a walk and talk with a friend
    Calvino Rabeni: the rains were taking a slight break to allow for us
    Korel Laloix: Osiyo
    Korel Laloix: I have just been missing the rain... got a little sprinkle.
    Korel Laloix: I can see the lightening off to the west.
    Korel Laloix: Sort of scary really.
    Calvino Rabeni: ah .. I had the back of the pickup truck one third full of rain :)
    Korel Laloix: Wow.
    Korel Laloix: Evidently the storm I can see if pitching basebal sized hail....
    Calvino Rabeni: it leaked out slowly sure, but filled up faster than that
    Korel Laloix: As I am in a tent, I hope that does not find its way here.
    Calvino Rabeni: ow,
    Calvino Rabeni: nods I hope so too
    Korel Laloix: Teh park Ranger came by while ago and suggest I move from where I was to hear... which is nice in that I get a signal in my tent.
    Korel Laloix: here
    Calvino Rabeni: nomadic internet service :)
    Korel Laloix: The service is not bad most of the time.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hello
    Korel Laloix: A lot better out here actually than in the city.
    Calvino Rabeni: Hello Aphrodite :)
    Korel Laloix: Heya.
    Korel Laloix: Bozho
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is the buffalo still there Korel?
    Calvino Rabeni: ah .. that's nice to know
    Raffila Millgrove: hello everyone
    Korel Laloix: Left him on the other side of the summit... but I did get a picture.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Raffila- yu seemr eady for the sun
    Calvino Rabeni: And also hello, oO0O0 and Raffila :)
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Rafilla, Aph :)
    Raffila Millgrove: oh yes. busy day building in the sun here. lol
    Aphrodite Macbain: good - I'd love to see the photograph
    Raffila Millgrove: Aphrodite.. is it bleu who is in charge of the "leaves" and flowers for the PAB anniversary tree?
    stevenaia Michinaga: waves
    Korel Laloix: Loading it right now... the sun came out for a microsecond so I got as close I dared... tood the first picture and he actually looked up at me....
    Korel Laloix: Mild stress.
    Raffila Millgrove: hi Steve
    Korel Laloix: But went right back to eating.
    oO0Oo Resident: ☆*¨¨*:•.•:*¨* hallo hello osiyo hi holla *¨¨*:•.•:*¨*☆
    Korel Laloix: Osiyo
    Raffila Millgrove: ooh what is Korel photo'ing?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hi Stevenaia
    Aphrodite Macbain: San
    Aphrodite Macbain: Paradise
    Korel Laloix: There is a buffalo that is in the same area I am camping.
    Aphrodite Macbain: the gan's all here
    Raffila Millgrove: ah!
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and waves all round and listens ;)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hmm I can only see Raff and San and PAradise
    Raffila Millgrove: hi Para
    Paradise Tennant: smiles a big smile at korel always good to hear !
    Korel Laloix: The rest of us are from your imagination.
    Raffila Millgrove: lol
    Santoshima Resident: hello everyone ~ hallo to buffalo
    Korel Laloix: It is very windy but not real rain yet.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I encourage you all to follow the banners and find the anniversatree
    Aphrodite Macbain: so yu can decorate it
    Aphrodite Macbain: for our anniversary
    stevenaia Michinaga: I ahve not seen it yet
    Aphrodite Macbain: It was planted yesterday
    Calvino Rabeni: still growing?
    Aphrodite Macbain: always
    Aphrodite Macbain: there are already a few wondreful additions
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and thinks of long blowing grasses and happy buffalo :)
    Korel Laloix: It is lovely up here.
    Korel Laloix: Very quiet besides the wind.
    Korel Laloix: Evidently I am the only one up on the mountin tonight.
    oO0Oo Resident: maybe you will transcend self this very night :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: or at least the mountain
    Korel Laloix: I am a little bit scared really.
    Aphrodite Macbain: what are you scared of?

    Korel Laloix: Being seriously alone, lighteing, high winds, flash floods, baseball sized hail, being sat on a by one ton buffalo and my normal paranoia.... smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: ah - nature
    Korel Laloix: This little chat is calming me down though.
    Korel Laloix: So thanks.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Calvino Rabeni: A little of this and a little of that ... :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: happy to be here
    Calvino Rabeni: but it adds up
    Aphrodite Macbain: you will be fine and we re all thinking about you and keeping you warm
    Paradise Tennant: smiles nice having company even if it is virtual
    Aphrodite Macbain: virtual thoughts coming your way Korel
    Korel Laloix: Thanks.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Hail?
    Korel Laloix: Evidently, the storm that I can see the lightening from west of here has been dropping baseball sized hail a bit.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yikes
    stevenaia Michinaga: sun was shining here
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you have a radio?
    Korel Laloix: I do.
    Aphrodite Macbain: well you have yr computer also to keep u in touch with the weather
    Raffila Millgrove: sounds scary but kind of exciting too. i never saw hail that big.
    Aphrodite Macbain thinks of Bruce's careful observance of weather fronts
    Korel Laloix: Yes, looking at that more... the radar looks good for me ... right now.
    Aphrodite Macbain: we had hail yesterday - noisy
    Korel Laloix: I have seen it, but not had to be in a tent for it.
    Aphrodite Macbain: wonder what it sounds landing on a tent...
    Aphrodite Macbain: oops sorry Korel
    Korel Laloix: Let us pray I don't find out.... smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-) or that you do and its totally fine
    Korel Laloix: I left my motorcycle down bythe park HQ, i just don't want it smashed up.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Is it covered?
    Korel Laloix: No, just in the parking lot.
    Aphrodite Macbain can't think of anything reassuring to say
    Korel Laloix: Poor planning on my part, and I was down there while ago showering up and the like.... should have moved it.
    Korel Laloix: lol
    Korel Laloix: You don't have to... I am here by choice.
    Aphrodite Macbain: under a tree?
    Korel Laloix: No, but I have my tent next to this buss size boulder.
    Korel Laloix: So keeping me otu of the wind at least.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Oh the one you were sitting on earlier?
    Korel Laloix: No, I moved, the park ranger suggested a better place.
    Korel Laloix: I am more sheltered here and no water run off worries evidently.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I must say I admire your sense of adventure Krell
    Paradise Tennant: smies kind of amazing when you think of it you in the wilderness to to speak but still hooked up via satellite to the virtual world
    Aphrodite Macbain: Korel
    Aphrodite Macbain: smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: nice combo
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Korel Laloix: It is... but I am glad you are all here... I needed the company... smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: (((Korel)))
    oO0Oo Resident: self strengthening rites of passage
    Korel Laloix: That or massive stupidity... grins
    oO0Oo Resident: nice to be together .. wherever and however we all are :)
    Paradise Tennant: love camping .. something about waking up .. outside ..
    Paradise Tennant: will be beautiful in the monring korel
    oO0Oo Resident: yes!
    Aphrodite Macbain: mmm- waking up will be magical
    Aphrodite Macbain: whatever the weather
    oO0Oo Resident: brings home the freshness and newness of a day so elementally
    Korel Laloix: That part I do love.
    Paradise Tennant: always so nice .... get the camp stove going .. coffee brewing .. and watch nature wake up
    Korel Laloix: Can't do a fire here, but I do have my stove.
    Aphrodite Macbain: coffee and a perfect morning
    Korel Laloix: And I brought some good Hawiian Coffee.... yummy.
    oO0Oo Resident: :)

    Calvino Rabeni remembers last time I went camping ... some animal came by at night and I could hear it walking, and it came up and was sniffing at the side of the tent in the middle of the night .. I didn't know what was out there :)
    Korel Laloix: Al ready had some of that.
    Korel Laloix: I like that though.
    Calvino Rabeni: so close but so unknown
    Aphrodite Macbain: Could you smell anything?
    Calvino Rabeni: nothing unusual
    Aphrodite Macbain: You can smell bears
    Aphrodite Macbain: strongly
    Korel Laloix: No... so pretty sure it was not a skunk.
    Paradise Tennant: yes they are kind of stinky
    Korel Laloix: No bears here.
    oO0Oo Resident: Two animals on either side of a thin stretch on nylon, perhaps thinking the same thing ;)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles
    Korel Laloix: True... grins
    Lucinda Lavender: :))
    oO0Oo Resident: Hi Luci :)
    Paradise Tennant: hiya luci gtsy :))
    Korel Laloix: Heya
    Lucinda Lavender: "
    Lucinda Lavender: hello Intrepid Travelers
    Calvino Rabeni: Hi Cinda
    Korel Laloix: Aphrodite, I was wanting to here more about your arts outreach you were talking about last session.
    Korel Laloix: If you don't mind.
    Aphrodite Macbain:  I don't know - two people left when I started talking about it!
    Korel Laloix: lol
    Calvino Rabeni: "correlation does not imply causation" ... as they say :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: I was community building through the arts
    Korel Laloix: I just like to hear about what sort of volunteering people do.
    Aphrodite Macbain: This was a paid job for 13 years
    Aphrodite Macbain: I also teach the subject on line
    Aphrodite Macbain: Now I'm interested in gardens, gardening and botanical drawing
    Aphrodite Macbain: especially if it happens in Italy
    Aphrodite Macbain: :-0
    Korel Laloix: Oh OK.
    Korel Laloix: If you need someone to hold your easel for you on your next trip, let me know.
    Aphrodite Macbain: It was very satisfying work Korel. It was nice to see people change
    Paradise Tennant: everything that happens in Italy seems somehow interesting :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods.
    Korel Laloix: Been to Germany and the UK... but want to get there.
    Aphrodite Macbain: perhaps the food, wine, landscape and art help
    Calvino Rabeni: The light, perhaps
    Aphrodite Macbain: Yes, absolutely the light
    Aphrodite Macbain: no pollution that I saw
    Aphrodite Macbain: golden
    Korel Laloix: But I bet you here not looking for it either.
    Aphrodite Macbain: houses with red tiles and glolden walls
    Aphrodite Macbain: sigh
    Aphrodite Macbain: Looking for it Korel?
    Korel Laloix: For polution... it is easy to not notice things you ar enot looking for, regardess of how obvious.
    oO0Oo Resident wonders if it is feasable for Korel's dance community to go on tour travelling, whereby perhaps accomodation could be made through invitation, in exchange for cultural exchange and sharing if appropriate. I'm sure many around the world would be very keen to see your tribal dancing.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nods. There is pollution in Italy - apparently there are thousands of plstic water bottles floating around Venice
    Lucinda Lavender: I would!
    Korel Laloix: There are several teams that travel internationally.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sounds promising. Nice suggestion 0
    Korel Laloix: You would just want someone good to go though, and that does not include me.
    Aphrodite Macbain: why do you say that Korel?
    oO0Oo Resident: hmm.. hard to believe Korel.. If your spirit is testimony. :)
    Korel Laloix: I have only placed six times.
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm impressed
    Korel Laloix: lol.... why?... When there are three people in your age and catagory, you place.
    Korel Laloix: I got second once becuase I was really on that day.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Only three?
    Korel Laloix: Not all powwows are huge.
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    Aphrodite Macbain: I need to learn more about this
    Korel Laloix: THere are some great websites... let me find you a couple.
    oO0Oo Resident smiles.. some of the profoundest pows and wows.. are very subtle eh?
    Korel Laloix: I mainly do fancy shawl.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Korel
    Korel Laloix: But, I have done buckskin before.
    Aphrodite Macbain: What is that?

    Korel Laloix: Some of the nonpublic powwows are very moving. But can be depressing in some ways.
    Korel Laloix: http://www.powwows.com/?p=982
    Aphrodite Macbain: Depressing?
    Aphrodite Macbain: Thanks Korel
    oO0Oo Resident: maybe in ways that are naturally not easy to share with "the public"
    Korel Laloix: Very into looking at the past and mourning, serious racism, drugs, etc.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Healing?
    Korel Laloix: Not a lot of that, no.
    Korel Laloix: More wallowing in the past.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Sad
    Aphrodite Macbain: Those buckskins look beautiful.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Do you have one?
    Korel Laloix: Mine is not that great.
    Korel Laloix: But it is handmade, and a hand me down from my aunts.
    Korel Laloix: So it is rather old as well, but still in great shape.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Then it has a family history which is nice.
    Korel Laloix: My fancy shawl is more lovely though... Grandma is helping me work on it.
    Raffila Millgrove whispers that she is here.. and just listening...
    Aphrodite Macbain: smiles at Raffila
    oO0Oo Resident: (((Korels granma)))) :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: work on it? youmean you are making one?
    Lucinda Lavender: such a great thing to have the grandma teach and help
    Aphrodite Macbain: nods
    Korel Laloix: I have had my regalia for a while, but we are making some more changes.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles thinking I would really like your grandmother korel she sounds really nice :)
    Lucinda Lavender: what are the colors I wonder...
    Korel Laloix: More bead and quill work.
    Korel Laloix: I like her.... smiles
    Aphrodite Macbain: When is the next pow wow?
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'd love to see pictures
    Korel Laloix: She is actually my latest stepdad's mother, not my blood grandma.
    Korel Laloix: It is hard to do during the school year.
    Korel Laloix: But as strange as this sounds, te Idaho Cherokees are having a powwow this summer, might try to get to that.
    Korel Laloix: Never been that far north in the US>
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    Paradise Tennant: smiles and says thank you and good night sorry .. am getting sleepy and still have some chores :))
    Aphrodite Macbain: waves at Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: sweet safe dreams korel :)) hope you wake up to sunshine :)
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening :)
    oO0Oo Resident: 'night Para :) Sleep well :) ::waves to Blue:::
    Aphrodite Macbain looks around for Bleu
    Korel Laloix: NIght... and I need to save some battery as I have to charge up down at the admin buidling.
    Paradise Tennant: smiles namaste my firends :))
    Calvino Rabeni: Sleep well !
    stevenaia Michinaga: night PAraside
    Aphrodite Macbain: Nite Korel - stay wrm and dry
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye
    Aphrodite Macbain: Bye! Raffila
    oO0Oo Resident: Thanks and goodnight Korel :)
    Raffila Millgrove: how do we find the tree?
    Raffila Millgrove: i was going to walk over to see how it looks.
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Raff :)
    Korel Laloix: Thanks agian for the chat. I feel much more relaxed now.
    Aphrodite Macbain: Follow the banners
    stevenaia Michinaga: sweet dreams
    oO0Oo Resident: Night Stev :)
    Aphrodite Macbain: There are some great quotes already
    Aphrodite Macbain: I'm off too.
    Calvino Rabeni: Good evening !
    oO0Oo Resident: Bye Aph!

    Lucinda Lavender: I have been working across the room...sorry
    oO0Oo Resident: no worries
    Calvino Rabeni: Kitchen?
    Calvino Rabeni: oh .. I heard of an iPad app to recommend .. rather the TED talk showing it
    Lucinda Lavender: cool Cal
    Calvino Rabeni: using tech to enable dreaming
    Calvino Rabeni: I thought you might like it
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.ted.com/talks/shilo_shiv_suleman_using_tech_to_enable_dreaming.html
    Lucinda Lavender: !
    Lucinda Lavender: great...and here is one for you...http://www.utahkrishnas.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=100&Itemid=190
    Calvino Rabeni: (shorter)
    Calvino Rabeni:
    oO0Oo Resident: Thanks Cal.. bookmarking :)
    Lucinda Lavender: it is kind of connected to my recent dream of being told by a teacher...that I will never be done mixing colors:)
    Calvino Rabeni: they are both colorful and from india
    oO0Oo Resident: and mixing .. ;)
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    oO0Oo Resident hums the Stegasaurus song
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: ah...so you must have seen the post!
    oO0Oo Resident: ;)
    Lucinda Lavender: do you need me to sing it for you?
    oO0Oo Resident: i so DO!
    Lucinda Lavender: haha
    oO0Oo Resident: hahahaha
    Lucinda Lavender: well let me see here
    Lucinda Lavender: swallows her peas and tries to get her head around that idea
    Calvino Rabeni: Peas are easier to swallow than an idea
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: so true
    Lucinda Lavender: I posted at my schools blog about a favorite song...
    Lucinda Lavender: children like it alot
    Lucinda Lavender: so it may take me a moment to know how to sing here
    oO0Oo Resident: you can certainly have an out Luci.. don't mean to put you on the spot :)
    Lucinda Lavender: it is ok...
    Lucinda Lavender: let me see
    Lucinda Lavender: looks up words
    oO0Oo Resident: Can i share the picture link luci?
    oO0Oo Resident: http://is.gd/V3Fc9U
    oO0Oo Resident: :)
    oO0Oo Resident: :)))
    Lucinda Lavender: there...did that work?
    oO0Oo Resident: :::claps::: That was wonderful.. ty so much!
    Lucinda Lavender: in a minor key

    Calvino Rabeni: arrr
    Calvino Rabeni: I just can't help it ... this link :)
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me06I9GDM_k

    oO0Oo Resident: clicks
    oO0Oo Resident: lol
    Lucinda Lavender: well.....well done!
    oO0Oo Resident bobs to the tune :)
    Lucinda Lavender: Luci too
    Calvino Rabeni: You might know this one, Cinda (or its web site)
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.songsforteaching.com/bananaslugstringband/rootsstemsleaves.htm
    Lucinda Lavender: I did not know either of these perfect for spring
    Lucinda Lavender: I have so many links to follow
    Calvino Rabeni: There's an app for that
    oO0Oo Resident: hahahaha
    Lucinda Lavender: ha ha so true
    Calvino Rabeni: After I retire, I plan to spend the last 20 years of my life following links
    Lucinda Lavender: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: down the yellow brick road...
    Lucinda Lavender: or the rabbit hole
    oO0Oo Resident: I need transition. Thanks Luci.. Cal :) Nice session.
    Calvino Rabeni: great notion :)
    Lucinda Lavender: thanks for links Sam
    oO0Oo Resident: yw, and thank you also for yours :) bfn
    Lucinda Lavender: bfn:)
    Calvino Rabeni: bye !
    Calvino Rabeni: owww, add another day to my retirement ... here's a whole page of science songs
    Lucinda Lavender: cool!
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.songsforteaching.com/sciencesongs.htm
    Lucinda Lavender: I love science songs
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zjN1VN8pqo
    Calvino Rabeni: "Zoom a little zoom in a rocket ship"

    Calvino Rabeni: Now this is one of my favorites:
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9JUCskdhxU&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL3D60561C9ACB4B80
    Calvino Rabeni: Plus a nice playlist lineup on that one
    Lucinda Lavender: great!!!
    Lucinda Lavender: "that's how science grows"
    Lucinda Lavender: "beep beep"
    Calvino Rabeni: hehe
    Calvino Rabeni: "It stikes me" (said Sir Isaac Newton)
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC2T1ic1V1M&feature=BFa&list=PL3D60561C9ACB4B80&lf=results_video
    Calvino Rabeni: this one has some nice duet harmony
    Lucinda Lavender: so great!
    Lucinda Lavender: shooting star..song with good information
    Lucinda Lavender: for a child
    Calvino Rabeni: Remember the "Space Age"?
    Lucinda Lavender: hmmma special time
    Lucinda Lavender: lots of potential here
    Lucinda Lavender: in these songs
    Calvino Rabeni: it's pre-sesame era stuff .. I like it
    Lucinda Lavender: yeah..me too
    Lucinda Lavender: flash of lightning and big thunder here
    Calvino Rabeni: lightning... BOOM!
    Calvino Rabeni: nice rolling finish :)
    Lucinda Lavender: wow yes...
    Lucinda Lavender: hee hee
    Calvino Rabeni: I saw this also recently (speaking of science) and "Wake Up" calls
    Calvino Rabeni: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16964783
    Calvino Rabeni: It made me feel better - normalized actually
    Calvino Rabeni: about things like insomnia
    Lucinda Lavender: lightning is very waking
    Lucinda Lavender: reading
    Calvino Rabeni:

    "We often worry about lying awake in the middle of the night - but it could be good for you. A growing body of evidence from both science and history suggests that the eight-hour sleep may be unnatural."

    Lucinda Lavender: yes...I read it too:)

    Calvino Rabeni: It appears, part of the recipe for that is having others to tell your dreams to during the "in between" hours
    Lucinda Lavender: nice yes...it is hailing like mad here
    Calvino Rabeni: ah .. we were anticipating the topic of hail earlier tonight
    Calvino Rabeni: Do you have any other knowledge about that theme, the "in between" ?
    Lucinda Lavender: well my info is that I heard it comes from long ago...that getting up and checking the horizon was a good idea...for one thing...and that 4 hours was good for the first part of sleep...then followed by more after the in between
    Lucinda Lavender: my thought about the inbetween is that when going back in to sleep after the in between we are ready for mor conscious dreaming perhaps
    Lucinda Lavender: more calm perhaps of not perplexed by the thoughts during that time
    Lucinda Lavender: what I mean is that it might be built in to the earlier needs of living with out alot of protection...
    Calvino Rabeni: I'm thinking of that old song by Johnny Mercer
    Calvino Rabeni: A kind of sermon to logical positivism
    Lucinda Lavender: ...which is that?
    Calvino Rabeni:

    You've got to accentuate the positive
    Eliminate the negative
    And latch on to the affirmative
    Don't mess with Mister In-Between

    Lucinda Lavender: ;)))
    Lucinda Lavender: Good connection there...
    Calvino Rabeni: I do recommend, though, .. staying safe in bed when Mr In-Between is around seems like a wise idea
    Lucinda Lavender: yep
    Calvino Rabeni: :)
    Lucinda Lavender: I should go soon...
    Calvino Rabeni: Same here ..
    Calvino Rabeni: The bell is coming ... could be a good time to evaporate
    Lucinda Lavender: I am reading more from your last sleep link
    Lucinda Lavender: it gives the stages of sleep...need to look at that
    Calvino Rabeni: such a commonplace ... still a lot to know
    Lucinda Lavender: yes...sleep well...and have a good in between:)
    Calvino Rabeni: Thanks ... I hope to do that :)

    Calvino Rabeni: Take care, bye
    Lucinda Lavender: bye:)

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