19-21 - What does it mean to Play as Being?

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    Play as Being has been around for over a year now, but some subjects jump out at you when you are considering the logs for a specified time period.  Some of us (like myself) are recent comers and are still working out the significance of the current practice they are engaged in.

    Stepping into unfamiliar territory, it may be best for this scribe to start by taking directions literally. Taking a 3 day screen shot, this what I saw…

    I am a 'tourist' stumbling upon this site. Play as Being? What is that?  An experiment based on experience… Let’s think about this for a minute, what does this mean??  Per Pema (in the log here), one of the definitions is “starting with integration, and then letting that grow into contemplation”, using the 9 second practice.

    Play as Being is…

    Relearning our nature...

    Bertrum Quan: One idea of PaB for me has me thinking about the connections between all of these things...
    Nymf Hathaway: Would you like to tell us?
    Bertrum Quan: Only this: the busy work week, the tasks, the emotions and noise have a fragmenting effect. Onthe individual as well as on the society. There certainly is a need to bring things together.
    Nymf Hathaway: Smiles... I so agree on this
    Nymf Hathaway: we lost our flow with nature
    Bertrum Quan: Yes. We are encourage to have a mind/body separation. We need to re-learn our nature!


    A shared moment of silence

    About PaB…

    Adams Rubble: rather a sharing here
    Adams Rubble: each of us add a little something
    Adams Rubble: and get a little something from each other



    Play as Being is… Play! And everyone gets to join in!…

    (sophia placebo): *I arrived on a witch broom , Wol was sitting there quietly but who can resist a witch broom .Others follow and we had a 15 mints of smiles

    Wol Euler: this is great, sophia.

    Pema Pera: what a spectacle!

    Yakuzza Lethecus: at least no onigokko today :)

    Pema Pera: watch out what you're asking for, Yak!

    Yakuzza Lethecus: onigokko…

    Pema Pera: a multidisciplinary dance!

    Pema Pera: Happy Hour !!

    Pema Pera: fellow Princetonians

    Pema Pera: and fellow physicists

    But Play can be seriousness…

    Wol Euler: I wonder, what makes the "home"-ness of home, when you spend every other week in a different place?

    Pema Pera: well, T shirts, mostly, Wol . . . home is where I keep most of my T shirts

    Pema Pera: the one and the many . . . . (truth and T shirts) . . . theme for tomorrow morning

    What brings Us here?

    sophia Placebo: im wondering about the poet reaching a point in his life where he decided to go without much support or help , a path with uncertain level , was wandering about the moments we do that , what drives us to do that
    Fefonz Quan: interesting, i never thought about the support/help issue regarding that choice/poem
    Mickorod Renard: what drives us is often disenchantment with what path we followed to date
    arabella Ella: or a sense of adventure ... or individuality
    arabella Ella: like riding a bicycle in the countryside where one has never ventured before
    arabella Ella: and choosing what seems to be the more untrodden or adventourous path
    arabella Ella: as a challenge
    arabella Ella: or to be different
    arabella Ella: or as a point of exploration

    arabella Ella: i feel that the fact that we are all here without reputation or baggage or status or what makes a huge difference to our conversations and discussions


    Gratitude, Self, Being and Primal Spirit

    Play as Being is thankfulness for all of the work that members have contributed to PaB…

    Adams Rubble: Hi Eos, was just sitting being grateful :)
    Adams Rubble: How are you?
    Adams Rubble: I missed you come in
    Eos Amaterasu: Good.... one of my fav William Blake quotes is "gratitude is heaven itself"
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: We have quite a bit to be grateful for in this PaB group :)

    Speaking as Being…

    Adams Rubble: and Pema suggested an exercise
    Pila Mulligan: ah, self, what a topic
    Adams Rubble: that we try to talk from Being rather than self

    Eos Amaterasu: Shall we try it here?

    Adams Rubble: talk as if we are Being talking?
    Eos Amaterasu: talk as if we are self talking?

    Pila Mulligan: this statement is attributed to Confucius: "Stop listening with your ears and listen with your mind. Then stop listening with your mind and listen with your primal spirit. Hearing is limited to the ear. Mind is limited to tallying things up. But the primal spirit is empty: it's simply that which awaits things."
    Pila Mulligan: the same could be saind of speaking, as well as listneing
    Eos Amaterasu: if the gate is open, the wind speaks
    Adams Rubble: nice Pila
    Adams Rubble: my "self" has already talked of resisting
    Adams Rubble: not sure what Being would say through me. Seems Being was speaking through Pila :)
    Pila Mulligan: Being would say through anyone just what they say :)
    Pila Mulligan: Confucius was speaking thru Pila :)
    Adams Rubble: Being noticed that my self was frightened by the experiement
    Eos Amaterasu: It's not "Confucius says"....It's "Being sez"
    Adams Rubble: was Being speaaking through Confucius?
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: well, it seems to me the idea of the exercise was to decrease subjectivity
    Pila Mulligan: your subjective self said uh-uh
    Pila Mulligan: or oh-oh
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Eos Amaterasu: expose the self
    Eos Amaterasu: which means Being articulated your self to yourself

    Eos Amaterasu: we're kind of presented by being anyway, though we think we're the ones presenting ourselves

    Eos Amaterasu: Heidegger says, "language is the clearing of Being"
    Eos Amaterasu: language is Being opening up


    The Pivot of Nothingness

    Silence is always okay…

    Scathach Rhiadra: so we can sit in companinable silence for a few minutes:)


    On Asteroids and Meteorites

    Mickorod Renard: I think its so wonderful to have this oportunity (SL) to meet with so many gifted and interesting people and their interests

    (2009.06.20 13:00  Log missing)


    Steve is in the boat due to fiery feet

    More Play!  PaB is Seriousness and Play, wrapped up together… but in the spirit of fun!

    Adams Rubble: something tells me it is going to be hard to get a serious conversation going tonight

    stevenaia Michinaga: the other night Eos and I touched on what preceeds birth... given all the talk of life after death, forgetting about life before birth thoughts

    Eliza Madrigal: It may just be seeing the sub-conscious in images/framework we relate to
    Adams Rubble: I have learned quite a bit about myself in the past year and some of it from loking back

    Eliza Madrigal: I have had flashes of memories...mostly seemingly insignificant but warm ones like falling asleep watching the stars from the back of the car , etc :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: what a nice image
    Eliza Madrigal: Funny thing, remembering these things feels like letting go of something
    Eliza Madrigal: who knows what! :)
    Adams Rubble: it is looking away from ourself
    Adams Rubble: appreciating appearances
    Eliza Madrigal nods... yes I guess images like that are almost universal
    Adams Rubble: we did it as children
    Adams Rubble: on the edge of sleep too
    Adams Rubble: what a nice memory
    Eliza Madrigal: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, seems the more you let go the more you have


    Boners and Games

    Teamwork in creation…

    Stargate Tone: so its nice to hear that there are much such games also thinking how much teamwork it’s needed, so; also them creators must have enjoyed *


    Emptiness and Love Together

    A quote of  Nisargadatta…

    Pema Pera: Avastu, the other day I looked up the Nisargadatta entry on wikipedia -- I was curious what had been written about him, and what quotes were used. I was happy to see quite a good entry. The quotes were great too.
    Pema Pera: for example:
    Pema Pera: "When I see I am nothing, that is wisdom. When I see I am everything, that is love. My life is a movement between these two."
    Avastu Maruti: yes
    Pema Pera: (background: Nisargadatta was a Hindu teacher, who also inspired Avastu, as the teacher of his teacher -- I greatly enjoy reading Nisargadatta)
    Adams Rubble: I have an entirely different understanding of the quote than I would have last summer when I was reading Nisargadatta
    Udge Watanabe: say more, adams?
    Adams Rubble: Maybe I am learning to love in a new way
    Udge Watanabe smiles
    Pema Pera 's turn to ask: can you say more, Adams?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Adams Rubble: It doesn't seem to be words. I felt the statement
    Adams Rubble: I don;t rememebr reading anything about Love in Nisargadatta last summer :)
    Adams Rubble: I am a bit curious now to look back and see what I may have missed
    Udge Watanabe nods. Any book worth reading needs to be read at least twice IMHOPema Pera: yes, the openness of emptiness . . .
    Pema Pera: the more we taste that, the more it becomes possible, and in fact very natural, to let everything just present itself . . . .
    Eos Amaterasu: openness going along with precision of emptiness: every little detail
    Pema Pera: no struggle, hence no reason to gloss over any detail
    Pema Pera: no agenda, so no reason to iron out or simplify any "inconvenient truth"

    Pema Pera: each moment a new opening . . . .
    Pema Pera: each moment empty . . . . ready for something totally new and different
    Pema Pera: or seemingly the same :-)
    Pema Pera: so emptiness is no judgment, no expectation, open for whatever may come
    Adams Rubble is beginning to understand
    Adams Rubble: no need to continue what we think has to be continued...we are just filling the emptiness with more of the same
    Pema Pera: and when we continue, then that too is fully new and fresh

    Pema Pera: even though it may look the same



    A particularly interesting PaB session…

    Sunfire Langer: I've introduced interconnectedness as an idea in a few topics, and its usually met with resistance, why would people resist it?
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Wol Euler: because it challenges their world view?
    Maxine Walden: agree, and it softens the edges of difference which many of us like to maintain
    Wol Euler: there's a lot of territorial defence that happens when disciplines abutt. Interconnectedness threatens that
    Pila Mulligan: some actually fragile world views can seem very solid

    Wol Euler: there may be an element of self-protection too. If everything is interconnected, then I had better stop squandering resources and adding to mountains of garbage - and there goes my lifestyle.

    Pila Mulligan: the pervasive nature of interconnectedness may be more than some modern assumptions of reality can handle -- Jung postulated the collective unconscious as a start, but even that may be too much for the existing culutre -- but science is getting some hints, such as theories of quantum entanglement and mirror neurons
    Sunfire Langer likes quantum entaglement
    Pila Mulligan like mirror neurons, also
    Wester Kiranov: mirror neurons are cool ;-)
    Tarmel Udimo: ty Wol yes that is the book (only read the article about the book)
    Pila Mulligan: Tarmel, the interconnectedness is probably there already, and the three practices may be just opening the shutters
    Tarmel Udimo: well it talked about three kind of templates (SS:refering to an unnamed article)
    Tarmel Udimo: the first is closer to what we do in PaB where there is no seperation with Being/Spirt - one is
    Eos Amaterasu thinks a a pattern language for appreciating the presence of appearance
    Tarmel Udimo: and one can appreciate the greatness



    (stevenaia Michinaga)  I sat in quiet tonight alone...smiling


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