2008.04.07 19:00 - Turnips and Much Else

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    There were four of us, right from the start, on Monday evening, with a fifth participant stopping by only briefly. It was Tara’s second visit, and old hands Riddle and Friedrich were there too.

    Riddle Sideways: hi pema
    Pema Pera: Hi Riddle!
    Pema Pera: The grid has been rather unstable today
    Riddle Sideways: I had trouble getting logged in
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: hey there …
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: good evening
    Pema Pera: Hi Friedrich!
    Pema Pera: Tara will be joining us in a moment
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: great. hi riddle
    Riddle Sideways: hi friedrich
    Tara Farmer: hello all
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: welcome
    Riddle Sideways: hi tara
    Pema Pera: Hi Tara, welcome again!
    Tara Farmer: thanks very much, it is good to be amongst friends
    Pema Pera: Yes, we are beginning to form a real community, even after just one week!
    Tara Farmer: I have been trying to get here in the evenings
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: night owl?
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: (though i hav no idea what timezone you ive in)
    Tara Farmer: ha ha i am an all time owl
    Tara Farmer: i managed to catch three minutes of bunans sitting last night
    Tara Farmer: or the night before i mean
    Tara Farmer: pema, it has only been a week for you?
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: april foold!
    Pema Pera: for all of us here — we started on April 1, yes
    Pema Pera: (^_^)
    Tara Farmer: i come here in the mornings for some tai chi and a sitting
    Tara Farmer: just me usually, when i met bunan we did tai chi together
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: this playful prank lasted past the first though. pema was serious
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: the waters here are healing
    Pema Pera: Tara we have a blog at http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/
    Pema Pera: lots of stuff there, but don’t let that intimidate you ;>)
    Pema Pera: we’re just chatting here among friends
    Tara Farmer: i’m not easily intimidated
    Tara Farmer: to say the least
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: well, the digests and synthesis are in the works ;-)
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: right, pema?
    Pema Pera: now we have a challenge, Tara (^^)
    Pema Pera: see whether we can intimidate Tara
    Tara Farmer: hey pema…
    Pema Pera: yes, digests moving along Fried
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn:
    Pema Pera: btw, Tara, are you going to show your math art?
    Tara Farmer: you led me into a strange little experiment the other day with siefert

    Tara was referring to a tour given by Seifert Surface, a few days earlier, as part of the activitiest of the QSL group in SL. During that tour Tara was picked as the cheer leader in the Crooked House, so we refered back to her bewildering experience.

    Tara Farmer: math art
    Pema Pera: well, yes
    Tara Farmer: how do i show it
    Pema Pera: that was more than I expected!
    Tara Farmer: ?
    Pema Pera: I had no idea you would be choosen!!!
    Pema Pera: you said you also had math art?
    Tara Farmer: i am the chosen one
    Tara Farmer: :)
    Pema Pera: lol
    Pema Pera: clearly!
    Tara Farmer: ahh yes, if you are interested you can view it online
    Pema Pera: choosen to be challenged
    Pema Pera: URL?
    Tara Farmer: http://www.artwanted.com/goddesstara
    Pema Pera: wow
    Tara Farmer: that is my photography and drawings
    Tara Farmer: fantastic
    Pema Pera: will look at it later
    Tara Farmer: are you looking?
    Tara Farmer: oh ok
    Pema Pera: but I already see plenty of options for gorgeous T shirts!
    Tara Farmer: i don’t use math to create my art though
    Pema Pera: yes looked briefly
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: quite beautiful. tnx for sharing
    Tara Farmer: well math from my head i guess
    Pema Pera: Riddle, like your Java shirt!
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: what were you chosen for?
    Tara Farmer: thanks friedrich
    Tara Farmer: oh pema led me to a math art discussion/speech
    Tara Farmer: how interesting because this is along the lines of what i was chosen for the other night
    Tara Farmer: seifert led us into a house he designed and I was the guinea pig
    Riddle Sideways: to do what
    Tara Farmer: I was told to walk through the house and down some flights of stairs
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: oh. in here that could have meant you actually leanred how to turn into a rodent
    Tara Farmer: as i walked down stairs everyone else stayed in the room
    Tara Farmer: eventually i got to a room with doors on every wall
    Tara Farmer: I entered one of the dorrs and I went through (with some difficulty)\
    Tara Farmer: when i went through I was in a room with everyone else but i was walking on the wall
    Tara Farmer: !!!
    Tara Farmer: it was freekin rad
    Riddle Sideways: an eschar house
    Tara Farmer: yes sir
    Tara Farmer: that is what he called it
    Pema Pera: This was an event organized by QSL, see http://qwaq-sl.org/QSL/ ; if you are not a member already, let me know and I’ll make you one

    Tara asked about our activities here, so we summarized the basic ideas behind Playing as Being.

    Pema Pera: Tara, have you been in SL for a long time?
    Tara Farmer: it reminds me of running in a dream
    Tara Farmer: pema I just fell off the turnip truck
    Pema Pera: lol
    Riddle Sideways: lol
    Tara Farmer: but i was chatting in IRC since i was 18
    Pema Pera: did you hear something about what we turnips are doing here, Tara?
    Tara Farmer: i have been connecting with people around the world for my whole adult life
    Pema Pera: playing as Being and such
    Tara Farmer: pema, I was here with you the one time, when we met, remmeber?
    Pema Pera: yes of course I remember
    Pema Pera: but that time was mostly chatting
    Pema Pera: which was fun too of course
    Tara Farmer: ahh, well then i do not understand fully
    Pema Pera: but we didn’t really talk much about the 9-sec experiment and such
    Tara Farmer: as i thought that is what we were doing
    Pema Pera: ;>)
    Tara Farmer: oh do tell
    Pema Pera: well the basic idea is that instead of trying to see deeper into reality by meditation or contemplation or tai chi or yoga or some such thing for an hour or more every day
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: i don’t know about anyone else, but the transition to the weekend from the weekdays was tough on my practice
    Pema Pera: we are trying to to something radically different
    Pema Pera: namely every 15 minutes
    Pema Pera: we try to spend 9 seconds on a form of practice
    Pema Pera: I call it a 1% time tax
    Pema Pera: and you don’t have to do that the whole day
    Tara Farmer: ok
    Pema Pera: just an hour a day is fine
    Pema Pera: or a few hours
    Pema Pera: in total that will cost you no more than a minute or two
    Pema Pera: like for brushing your teeth
    Pema Pera: so you see
    Pema Pera: no reason not to try it for lack of time
    Pema Pera: BUT it requires some persistence
    Tara Farmer: i see
    Pema Pera: to do it regularly
    Tara Farmer: time is a human construct
    Pema Pera smiles with the thought of Tara meeting her challenge now
    Tara Farmer: ha ha
    Pema Pera: anyway
    Pema Pera: would you like to try that for a few days?
    Tara Farmer: so like deep breathing, a yoga move, what?
    Pema Pera: just to see
    Pema Pera: not necessarily
    Pema Pera: just stop what you’re doing for 9 seconds (or thereabouts)
    Pema Pera: could be a bit longer of course
    Pema Pera: and try to poke holes in your normal concepts of reality
    Pema Pera: open up a bit
    Tara Farmer: ha ha
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: (er, when i’m alone, the sun salutation has snuck into my breaks)
    Pema Pera: then write down a few words about the experience
    Pema Pera: in a journal
    Pema Pera: like a laboratory journal
    Pema Pera: your own life as a lab
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: moleskins are great
    Tara Farmer: I’m pretty open and poking holes in reality is my thing…but I could always be more open
    Pema Pera: I feel the same
    Pema Pera: you can find a bit more in http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/hints-for-playing-as-being/
    Pema Pera: great, we got a deal!
    Tara Farmer: okay so….
    Pema Pera: So we come together here to discuss how we’ve been doing
    Pema Pera: what we find
    Tara Farmer: for an hour a day
    Pema Pera: sharing
    Pema Pera: suggesting
    Pema Pera: having fun too of course
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: and, you have to figure out what taking a break in here means too…
    Tara Farmer: every 15 muntes i stop for 9 seconds (or thereabouts)
    Pema Pera: yes
    Pema Pera: roughly four times an hour
    Pema Pera: doesn’t have to be precise
    Pema Pera: and not while using heavy dangerous equipment (^_^)
    Tara Farmer: and i poke holes in reality
    Riddle Sideways: take one breath and write a sentence
    Tara Farmer: ha ha i only have scissors and some pruning shears
    Tara Farmer: and a soil probe
    Pema Pera: let’s hear from Rid and Fried how they have experienced it so far
    Riddle Sideways: I have 12 scraps of paper now
    Tara Farmer: i could poke the holes with that!
    Tara Farmer: woo hoo
    Pema Pera: sounds like a turnip !
    Riddle Sideways: about 4 pages
    Tara Farmer: ha ha
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: stay away from tara’s scissors

    To make it more concrete, Riddle spoke about his experiences during the last week.

    Pema Pera: Riddle, do you want to summarize?
    Pema Pera: to give an idea of a week of Playing as Being?
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmmm
    Tara Farmer: i’m all ears
    Tara Farmer: err eyes…
    Riddle Sideways: no your not
    Riddle Sideways: ooo lights on
    Riddle Sideways: I found remembering each 15 was hard to do
    Riddle Sideways: and stopping each time through a door or something was fake
    Riddle Sideways: so I have a digital grandfathers clock
    Riddle Sideways: takes me back to my childhood in my parents home
    Riddle Sideways: when it gongs I breathe and write something
    Riddle Sideways: anything
    Riddle Sideways: later I have been looking back
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: was it bought on the morn of the day that you were born?
    Riddle Sideways: and seeing reality vs Being vs suchiness vs business
    Riddle Sideways: buzy-ness
    Riddle Sideways: no my dad built it when I was 2-3
    Riddle Sideways: nice touch tho
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: i try.
    Tara Farmer: so what are you writing down
    Tara Farmer: can you share?
    Riddle Sideways: often it is just the “where I was” just then
    Riddle Sideways: e.g. in SL but in a larger world too
    Tara Farmer: so like stichomancy of the brainwaves
    Tara Farmer: ?
    Tara Farmer: open it up and that’s the answer
    Riddle Sideways: deeply into a virtual world of a sci-fi novel
    Tara Farmer: LOL a forward thinker, that is good
    Pema Pera looks up stichomancy on the web
    Tara Farmer: something i practice fairly regularly
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: heh. that;s where i just went!
    Tara Farmer: geeks
    Tara Farmer: :)
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: you’re using words that even google doesn’t know
    Riddle Sideways: lol
    Tara Farmer: leave it to a pagan to throw a wrench into the computer world
    Tara Farmer: stichomancy is the practice of opening a book, sometimes the bible (bibliomancy) to find an answer
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: i think this world needs the whole toolbox thrown in
    Tara Farmer: kind of like the Akashic records or the book of answers
    Pema Pera: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stichomancy
    Tara Farmer: tao de ching
    Tara Farmer: type of thing
    Riddle Sideways: which world needs throwing in
    Tara Farmer: I , myself, find no comfort in the bible
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: ours?
    Tara Farmer: so i usually use poetry books
    Pema Pera: there is overlap, I think, Tara
    Pema Pera: the idea is to not think or analyze
    Tara Farmer: i see
    Pema Pera: just let whatever comes up come up
    Tara Farmer: i understand
    Pema Pera: and the “benefit” if you want to call it that
    Pema Pera: is as much the energy and the gesture and the atmosphere
    Pema Pera: as the words themselves
    Pema Pera: but the words too are fun to read later
    Pema Pera: to see patterns
    Pema Pera: but the idea is to all do it very lightly
    Pema Pera: poking holes, softly ;>)
    Pema Pera: gently
    Tara Farmer: ahhh, this is kind of adherent to my drawing as well
    Tara Farmer: when i draw i just try to zone out (it helps that i use sharpies)
    Tara Farmer: ahhh…the sweet smell of a new sharpie
    Tara Farmer: but anyway, i digress
    Riddle Sideways: ooo luv that smell
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: have any metallic ones?
    Tara Farmer: i usually zone out and things seem to appear out of nowhere in my art
    Tara Farmer: symbols a lot of times
    Tara Farmer: symbols I don’t know
    Pema Pera looks up sharpies on the web : Sharpies (also known as Sharps) were members of suburban youth gangs in Australia mainly from the 1960s to 1980s,
    Tara Farmer: runic type character
    Tara Farmer: faces
    Tara Farmer: I get a lot
    Tara Farmer: and other thinsg
    Tara Farmer: with no intent
    Tara Farmer: so often when a different person looks at it, they see a different thing
    Tara Farmer: perspective call it
    Riddle Sideways: I play music (or it plays me) and get the same
    Pema Pera: yes, I think that is close to what we are trying to do
    Pema Pera: we play Being and Being plays us
    Tara Farmer: sharpie is a black pen
    Tara Farmer: well they have other colors
    Pema Pera: AHA
    Pema Pera: didn’t know that
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: they are permanent
    Tara Farmer: thank goddess I LOVE COLOR
    Tara Farmer: yes and they are wonderful

    Tara then spoke more about her own views, and we talked more about the type of playing that we are attempting here.

    Tara Farmer: pema, i am just trying to fit it into my own level of understanding
    Tara Farmer: before I meet your challenge
    Pema Pera: you’re doing very well indeed!
    Pema Pera: the whole idea is to find our own way
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: Tara, have you found the interfaith gardens? they have sections for wiccan and pagan traditions too
    Tara Farmer: no but please send me the link
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: maybe i can return your gift…
    Tara Farmer: )
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: why not?
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: (that’s what I heard)
    Tara Farmer: i probably am misquoting that little guy
    Pema Pera: the problem with words is that the opposite of a great truth is also a great truth
    Pema Pera: no intention and strong intention
    Pema Pera: both are correct
    Tara Farmer: yes
    Pema Pera: but it depends what you mean in each case
    Tara Farmer: but this is only part of the experimant i understand
    Pema Pera: different shadows of the same stick
    Pema Pera: lit up from different directions

    One of the central notions in our play is the same idea that is central to many religions: we are not what we think we are.

    Tara Farmer: So, things we are not looking for with this ….
    Tara Farmer: “5:15 just picked my nose”
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Tara Farmer: ha ha
    Tara Farmer: LOL
    Tara Farmer: “5:30 drank some water”
    Tara Farmer: ha ha
    Pema Pera: I’m really looking forward to your reports now!
    Pema Pera: lol
    Pema Pera: but yes, that’s perfectly fine too
    Tara Farmer: <—jackass
    Riddle Sideways: hey, you were reading mine
    Tara Farmer: ha ha LOL riddle, you are funny
    Pema Pera: and then also whatever else pops up
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn snickers
    Pema Pera: <– imagines a meadow with turnips and jackasses
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: just wait until 5:45….
    Tara Farmer: watch out
    Tara Farmer: so can i deep breath too
    Tara Farmer: it helps to focus my brain
    Pema Pera: of course!
    Tara Farmer: also like automatic writing
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmm deep breath takes 14 seconds
    Pema Pera: fine!
    Pema Pera: so I’m carrying that to the extreme
    Pema Pera: we are Being
    Pema Pera: whatever we have, we can drop
    Pema Pera: you talked about religion, Tara; every religion tells us that we are more than what we think we are
    Pema Pera: what is left is Being
    Tara Farmer: ahhh
    Pema Pera: to say it very very briefly
    Tara Farmer: a twinkle of understanding has finally crept into my over-analyzing brain
    Pema Pera: twinkling turnip
    Tara Farmer: sometimes it takes me a while
    Pema Pera: lol
    Tara Farmer: )
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn: all i can recommmend, Tara, is try it. Being will speak for itself
    Pema Pera: tiptoeing through the turnips
    Tara Farmer: LOL
    Tara Farmer: oh i’m doing it
    Tara Farmer: we will see what is hidden in the folds
    Tara Farmer: of time and my brain
    Pema Pera ponders role reversal: Fried serious and Pema flippant
    Tara Farmer: you bring out the best in eachother
    Friedrich Ochsenhorn belly laughs

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