2008.04.24 19:00 - A Goddess and a Pub

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    Solo, Storm and I all approached the tea house at just about the same time.

    Solobill Laville: May I come in?
    Pema Pera: of course!!!
    Solobill Laville: Hello!
    Pema Pera: Hi Solo!
    Pema Pera: make yourself comfortable
    Pema Pera: And hi Storm!
    Solobill Laville: Hi Storm!
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Solobill
    Solobill Laville: Is it late for you?
    Storm Nordwind: It’s certainly late for me - 3:00am!
    Pema Pera: wow, Storm!!
    Storm Nordwind: I’ll probably not stay too long
    Pema Pera: actually, for a chance this time I have to drop out at 7:30 SLT
    Pema Pera: since there is a Qwaq meeting I have to attend at that time
    Pema Pera: a rare conflict in my timing.

    SL still seemed to be unstable: Solo disappeared.

    Pema Pera: oops
    Pema Pera: I talked with Solo this afternoon, briefly, when we crossed paths; he was very excited about the idea of a pub.
    Pema Pera: I showed him the plot
    Storm Nordwind: great!
    Pema Pera: very close to the zazen spot

    At that point Solo reappeared.

    Pema Pera: Solo, talking about the Be-IT Bar
    Solobill Laville: Sorry, fellas, I crashed.
    Pema Pera: wb!
    Pema Pera: quick reincarnation!!
    Solobill Laville: lol
    Storm Nordwind: No bardo stuff for Solobill!
    Pema Pera: what good intentions can do . . . .
    Pema Pera: perhaps this is the Bardo?
    Solobill Laville: hmmm
    Storm Nordwind: haha!
    Pema Pera: in Holland, in the north we have protestants and in the south catholics
    Pema Pera: the churches don’t look so different
    Pema Pera: but the main difference is that in the north they stand by themselves
    Pema Pera: and in the south opposite each church is a cafe (in US terms: a bar)
    Pema Pera: so following that example
    Solobill Laville: he he
    Pema Pera: the bar adjacent to the zazen spot might be a good southern-Dutch idea
    Storm Nordwind: Great!
    Storm Nordwind: Holland is one of my favorite places
    Storm Nordwind: Though I have spent most time in the North
    Storm Nordwind: And on pilgrimage once to visit places in Zeeland wrt Nehalennia
    Solobill Laville: Pema, have you seen the Blarney Stone (SL)?
    Pema Pera: Nehalennia?
    Pema Pera: Blarney Stone?
    Storm Nordwind: Nehalennia is a goddess
    Solobill Laville: I’ll let you finish on Nehalennia….

    Storm told us about Nehallennia.

    Storm Nordwind: She was mostly known around 2000 years ago
    Solobill Laville: European?
    Storm Nordwind: There are many votive altars to her found on the coast
    Pema Pera: I’d never heard of it . . . . sorry to say, even though it’s in my native country!
    Solobill Laville: Scandanavian?
    Storm Nordwind: Around places like Colijnsplaat
    Storm Nordwind: No not Scandinavian
    Storm Nordwind: She was germanic though
    Storm Nordwind: though she was worshipped also by the celts and the romans
    Solobill Laville: A nature goddess?
    Storm Nordwind: I’m not sure what you mean by that
    Solobill Laville: Rebirth, spring, earth
    Storm Nordwind: Again, what do you mean?
    Storm Nordwind: Goddesses are being. Individual entities
    Storm Nordwind: beings
    Storm Nordwind: They have strengths and weakness like we do
    Storm Nordwind: They have favourite occupation and pastimes like we do
    Solobill Laville: Just looking for historical clarity and perspective.
    Storm Nordwind: but she was mostly invoked for safe passage
    Storm Nordwind: and the altars found in the dunes at places like Domburg are to give thanks after she got people out of a scrape
    Solobill Laville: Okay, I see, thanks, fascinating!
    Solobill Laville gave you Dublin - The Blarney Stone Irish, Dublin (85, 93, 25).
    Storm Nordwind: Many people - possibly not you Solobill - think of deities as being god or goddess of this or that
    Storm Nordwind: and that is really not the case
    Storm Nordwind: and more than I am Human of teaching! :)
    Storm Nordwind: *any more
    Solobill Laville: :)
    Storm Nordwind: So I was clarifying that too. :)
    Storm Nordwind: So it is intersting to find that some people regard, say, Thor as God of Thunder
    Storm Nordwind: Whereas he has rather a lot of things he likes doing
    Storm Nordwind: and also many other deities like Thunder too!
    Storm Nordwind: Just my perspective as an old polytheist and seer!
    Storm Nordwind: It kind of makes a difference when one is able to have two way conversations with these beings and find out what they’re really like :)
    Solobill Laville: Storm, would you consider yourself a Tantric practicioner?
    Storm Nordwind: Good question. I consider myself Vajrayana though my experience is only budding
    Storm Nordwind: It is a way of both Sutra and Tantra
    Solobill Laville: Great, thanks for the honest answer
    Solobill Laville: Your passion is contagious!
    Storm Nordwind: Wow - I am honoured by that remark! :)
    Solobill Laville: :) True…
    Pema Pera: Thanks, Storm; I had been meaning to ask you about “seer”, the word that is prominent in your blog, and that you have used to describe yourself a few times.
    Pema Pera: Now is not the time to go deeply into that, given that I have to leave in 8 minutes
    Pema Pera: but I’d like to hear more, before too long!
    Storm Nordwind: No problem. I find being anything else other than open and honest too difficult to bother with! :)
    Solobill Laville: Amen, brotha!
    Storm Nordwind smiles

    I then came back to Solo’s pointer to the Blarney Stone.

    Pema Pera: On another brief note
    Pema Pera: *brief
    Pema Pera: Solo gave me a lm
    Pema Pera: for an Irish pub
    Pema Pera: looks nice, but probably much too high for here
    Pema Pera: good atmosphere though
    Storm Nordwind: This is the Blarney Stone, right?
    Pema Pera: yes
    Solobill Laville: Yes, good atmosphere, open and UKish, yes, Storm
    Storm Nordwind: If it’s the one I’m thinking of, I think I visited it 2 years ago.
    Storm Nordwind: The relaxed atmospher of an Irish or British pub could be really good
    Solobill Laville: I agree totally
    Storm Nordwind: I’ve been there!
    Storm Nordwind: In RL
    Storm Nordwind: Not called that though
    Solobill Laville: llol
    Pema Pera: Blarney Stone?
    Solobill Laville: I have great friends in Dublin
    Storm Nordwind: That pub overlooks the Liffey
    Storm Nordwind: I think
    Solobill Laville: That is funny, I wonder if it is the same owners
    Storm Nordwind: hmmm… I was last in Dublin a year ago and my brain has been shaken up a lot since then!
    Solobill Laville: Mine has been compressed!
    Storm Nordwind: haha!
    Pema Pera: Hopefully the expanding universe will give all of our brains a bit more room . . . .
    Pema Pera: well, I have to leave now, regrettably
    Solobill Laville: Yes, and what happens when all matter is torn apart Pema???
    Pema Pera: we don’t know
    Pema Pera: big crunch perhaps
    Solobill Laville: Save that for another time
    Pema Pera: or eternal expansion
    Pema Pera: yeah
    Storm Nordwind: See you again soon Pema
    Pema Pera: thanks for coming here, Solo and Storm!
    Solobill Laville: Thanks
    Storm Nordwind: Namaste
    Pema Pera: Namaste

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