2008.08.20 19:00 - Sometimes It Takes a While to Get to Something...

The guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are stevenaia's.

This evening discussion seemed to be meandering for quite a while before Adams arrived later and took up a topic.

Avastu Maruti, Doug Sosa, Adelene Dawner and I began the evening
Initially we were trying to assist Doug Sosa in changing his complexion to look less ghost-like..

stevenaia Michinaga: hi Doug
doug Sosa: hi, getting organized ;)
stevenaia Michinaga: we're early
stevenaia Michinaga: Adelene is still a cloud
doug Sosa: so is my mind...
stevenaia Michinaga: you are still pale white
doug Sosa: i can't get the color change to take. in fact whne i do the slider, change does not show.
stevenaia Michinaga: have you rebaked?
doug Sosa: rebaked?
stevenaia Michinaga: menu ADVANCED:CHARACTER: rebake textures
stevenaia Michinaga: it sometimes cleans things up
doug Sosa: ah, i'll try thanks. i had no clue.
stevenaia Michinaga: I bearly have one

Sylecta Darwin arrives....

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Sylectra, nice landing
stevenaia Michinaga: Weclome avastu
Sylectra Darwin: thanks! Hello.
Sylectra Darwin: Good to see you all
Adelene Dawner: 'lo Avastu, Sylectra.
Avastu Maruti: hello my friend
doug Sosa: ok, naive. men: advanced? don't see it.
Adelene Dawner: You might not have it turned on, Doug. In any case I don't think it's that - I'm pretty sure you automatically rebake at the start of each session.
doug Sosa: hi syl. stee is trying to get some blood in my avatar.
stevenaia Michinaga: menu
stevenaia Michinaga: there is an advaned menu
Sylectra Darwin: Doesn't like the porcelain look?
stevenaia Michinaga: advanced menu, rather
stevenaia Michinaga: you on a mac or PC?
Adelene Dawner: The advanced menu has to be 'unlocked' by some key-
combination that I don't remember. It's hidden by default.
doug Sosa: ok, where is menu. i have the bar at the top and another at the bottom. no "menu"
stevenaia Michinaga: is there a pull down after the help menu?
Sylectra Darwin: hang on - looking it up
stevenaia Michinaga: thanks computer wiz Sylectra
doug Sosa: after help is a cube
stevenaia Michinaga: ok then Ade is right, yoiu have to activate it somehow
doug Sosa: but hey enough about me, how do i look to you ;)?
Sylectra Darwin: Well a rebake is not going to help Doug if he has his appearance set to a fully white skin.
Sylectra Darwin: Doug you would have to "edit appearance"
doug Sosa: tried it, go to skin, try to increase pigment, doesn't do anything..
Adelene Dawner: I suggest that Doug and I, or someone else who's experienced with av modding, take this up later.
Sylectra Darwin: Good plan. Doug you probalby just need a new skin
doug Sosa: i feel like teenager in the bathroom at the miror with friends.

One thing led to another and how we look to each other was the theme of the moment

stevenaia Michinaga: yes, or we could discuss why we are trying to change doug as a topic
Adelene Dawner: The lighting in here doesn't help, either. We're all a bit washed out.
doug Sosa: i have not tried too hard to change it because it conveys something, though i've no idea what. ethereal?
stevenaia Michinaga: to me Ade is a cloud, that;s ethereal
stevenaia Michinaga: but then what is virtual ethereal
Sylectra Darwin: Steven was totally invisible to me the other night.
stevenaia Michinaga: I get that alot
doug Sosa: Interesting to me that we see steve, though only his avatar. I find this very confusing.
Adelene Dawner: I rarely to never have problems seeing you guys, and I'm still running 19.1
doug Sosa: 19.1 was a great vintage :)
stevenaia Michinaga: what do you mean Doug?

Adams Rubble arrives...

stevenaia Michinaga: Hello Adams
stevenaia Michinaga: nice to see you again
doug Sosa: ah, that i try hard to see who a person is, but the avatar is not so helpful in being able to do that.
Adams Rubble: Hello Doug, Steve, Avastu
Sylectra Darwin: Adams!
Avastu Maruti: hello my friend
Sylectra Darwin: hihi
doug Sosa: H adams.
Adams Rubble: Hello Sylectra
stevenaia Michinaga: I have rl pic in profile
stevenaia Michinaga: if you want a different image of me
stevenaia Michinaga: but it;s really not relevant here
Adams Rubble: Hello Adeline (missed you)
doug Sosa: but not very clear, like a veteran of world of war.
Adelene Dawner: Hi Adams :)
stevenaia Michinaga: finally I see Adelene
doug Sosa: how could it not be relevant?
doug Sosa: your RL pic?
stevenaia Michinaga: yes in my profile
stevenaia Michinaga: I would like to remind everyone to try (If only to assist me) to take a 9 second PaB moment at the 1/4 hours, it helps me focus on it, sometime I miss the gong, so if you hear it feel free to remind me
stevenaia Michinaga: Adams disappeared
doug Sosa: there!
doug Sosa: bell.
Sylectra Darwin: hmm
stevenaia Michinaga: thx, i didn't hear it
doug Sosa: the 9 sec was delicious.
doug Sosa: much more are of the physical space, less on the drama of the conversation, and aware i am talking too much.
stevenaia Michinaga: I have an entire metabolic change, deep breathing , relaxation, focus internally
doug Sosa: and that the space is dependent on....being?
doug Sosa: or the programers?
stevenaia Michinaga: usually close my eyes.. and begin to see
doug Sosa: hi back :)
Adams Rubble: must have been a bad seat :)
Adams Rubble: Sorry I missed that conversation
stevenaia Michinaga: coming here is a perfect place to practice for me, I many need a computer gong for assistance
stevenaia Michinaga: *may
Adams Rubble: We get a view of each other that we can't get in RL because we are affected by appearance
Adams Rubble: in RL
doug Sosa: But also affected by appearance here, no?
doug Sosa: So we have two "appearances". complex for me.
Adams Rubble: Yes, but it more limited in a way
Adams Rubble: But if you think it is important I will email you a website
doug Sosa: which is more limited adams?
doug Sosa: ok.
Adams Rubble: Many of us change our appearances regularly. None of us think anyone looks exactly like their AV
Adams Rubble: rats lag
stevenaia Michinaga: for some reason I suspect Avastu looks more like himself here
Adams Rubble: I certainly don't :)
stevenaia Michinaga: ... yes Adams, I know
Sylectra Darwin: Guys I am sorry but I am running a fever and very tired. I will need to go to bed now.
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: good night Syl hope you feel better
stevenaia Michinaga: night Sylectra, be well
doug Sosa: take good care.
Sylectra Darwin: Thanks Steven, nice to see you all again
Sylectra Darwin: thanks much.
stevenaia Michinaga: maybe at the 1/2 hour we could try to focus our PaB on visual Identity and see if directing out moment has any impact on it, or we could look at someone of our choosing and see what impact that may have?
stevenaia Michinaga: *our moment
Adams Rubble: I have not detected any advantages or limitations to my appearance
Adams Rubble: in these discussions
doug Sosa: i need to move to dinner, can't teleport but i can (who?) walk.. thanks all. :) :)
Adams Rubble: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: bye doug, thanks for joining us
stevenaia Michinaga: interesting Adams, as I found your avatar quite intriguing, and quite different after I met you
Adams Rubble: Maybe we can talk about that off chat some time :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Adelene, is that your brain around your next?
Adelene Dawner: I keep a spare - sometimes I need one. ^.-
Adams Rubble: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: interesting idea
stevenaia Michinaga: two brains
Adams Rubble: are better than one
Adams Rubble: :)
Adelene Dawner: Actually, to be accurate, the necklace was a gift from a friend - I was having a bad brain day and jokingly commented how I'd lost my brain and had she perhaps seen it, and she responded by giving me this.
stevenaia Michinaga: so it's the gift of brain, evan more special
Adelene Dawner: ^.^

Two brains???? .. where will this end up.....Adams explains her quiet evening... then goes on...

stevenaia Michinaga: I'm having an unfocused Wednesday evening as the result of a long day.... feel free to not wait for me
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Adams Rubble can't sleep; enjoying being with friends
stevenaia Michinaga: there is always that :)
Adams Rubble: I also had an interesting experience this week and I am a bit worn out from the exhilaration
Adams Rubble: I discovered a rather large identity that was the result of a decision I had made in my teen years
Adams Rubble: a long held assumption that was hiding something important to me
Adams Rubble: It was quite a revelation for me
Adams Rubble: I was identifying myself with people and expecting to go down the same path
Adams Rubble: I had a close example of another path that I had ignored
Adams Rubble: because of religious prejudices
Adams Rubble: I thought of you in the past coupe of days Steve
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Adams Rubble: how you were in the water which was cloudy and then came up
stevenaia Michinaga: listens
Adams Rubble: and saw everything was clear and saw Being
Adams Rubble: My revelation was a little like that
Adams Rubble: suddenly some things were much clearer
stevenaia Michinaga: those moments stay with me
Adams Rubble: and by telling us about it...with many of us too
Adams Rubble: I had discovered many attachments but this is the first time I saw
Adams Rubble: an assumption that I held for 3/4 of my life which was just something in the way
stevenaia Michinaga: and now it;s not?
Adams Rubble: No, not now that I have recognized it :)
Adams Rubble: I feel much freer
Adams Rubble: I can make my own path
stevenaia Michinaga: this reminds me that you alwys were free to make that path
Adams Rubble: yes I was but there were voices telling me I shouldn't
stevenaia Michinaga: voices?
stevenaia Michinaga: other people?
Adams Rubble: maybe I can try to find a better way to say that
Adams Rubble: I thought that part of what I would become was not controlled by me
Adams Rubble: I was fighting against this but it was there in my way
Adams Rubble: Until I recognized where it came from
Adams Rubble: from me and a decision I had made many. many years ago
Adams Rubble: and assumed an identity
Adams Rubble: It is so clear NOW
Adams Rubble: not then
Adams Rubble: It is the power of the seeing exercies :)
stevenaia Michinaga: sounds like an interesting step for you
Adams Rubble: YES
Adams Rubble: I had no idea that something this existed
stevenaia Michinaga: can you make it any clearer to us what this realization is or how PaB has helped you "se" it
Adams Rubble: Can I refer you to my blog for the step-by-step?
stevenaia Michinaga: awww, ofcourse
Adams Rubble: It started probably Monday night, maybe Sunday
Adams Rubble: It might go back to the dialogue I had on Saturday but that won't be so clear to you

A new face arrives......

Adams Rubble: Hi Kojiro. hope you are not too wet
Kojiro Eretz: XD
Kojiro Eretz: Hi :D
stevenaia Michinaga: The link is on the PaB Wiki
Adams Rubble: to my blog?
Adams Rubble: yes
Adams Rubble: rubblebornthoughts.wordpress.com
stevenaia Michinaga: yes
Kojiro Eretz: Neat place.
Adams Rubble did alot of talking for someone who just wanted to sit with friends
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: the end to a perfect evening
Adams Rubble: This is a Play-as_being session Kojiro
stevenaia Michinaga: have you been here before Kojiro?
Kojiro Eretz: No I haven't :/
Adams Rubble: we meet four times a day 1, 7, 1, and 7 to discuss an exercie
Kojiro Eretz: I put in Shinto for a search and saw this place
Adams Rubble: we stop every 15 minutes and meditate for 9 seconds
Kojiro Eretz: Oh?
stevenaia Michinaga: http://playasbeing.wik.is/Information/
Play_As_Being_in_a_Nutshell
stevenaia Michinaga: this session is winding down, or at least I am
Adams Rubble: that notcard tells a little ablout us as does the website Seve gave you
stevenaia Michinaga: but feel free to join is again, we record these sessions and post them on a blog and wiki, is that ok?

Avastu Maruti speaks...

Adams Rubble: Avastu should have a word. How are you my good friend :)
Avastu Maruti: perfect!
Adams Rubble: Great!
stevenaia Michinaga: there, a word
Kojiro Eretz: Hmmm this Play as Being sounds kind of interesting.
Kojiro Eretz: Finished reading the note card... thanks
Adams Rubble: Yes it is very interesting :)
Kojiro Eretz: So every 15 mins you stop for 9 seconds for a quick meditation?
Adams Rubble: yes, but no rules
Adams Rubble: we do what we can
Kojiro Eretz: I thought it takes longer to benefit from meditation though.
Adams Rubble: the important point is exploration
Kojiro Eretz: Hmmm
Adelene Dawner: You might be surprised, Koj.
Kojiro Eretz: I see that i missed this current discussion but i guess ill check out the next one.
Adams Rubble: Yes, they come up every 6 hours :)
Kojiro Eretz: Real time?... I forget how fast SL time goes... i havent been on for the last 16 months
stevenaia Michinaga: please do, I msut leave, if the conversation continues, feel free to send the more of the dicussion, enjoy your evening
Adams Rubble: It is on the top right of your screen
Adams Rubble: Yes I must go too bye everyone :)
Avastu Maruti: good bye my friend
Avastu Maruti: friend(s)
Kojiro Eretz: Oh, there it is ^_^;;
Adams Rubble: :)
stevenaia Michinaga: :)
Adams Rubble: Thanks Avastu
Kojiro Eretz: See you all :D
Adams Rubble: Bye :)