2008.09.28 08:00 - Have you really been by yourself the whole time?

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    Guardians met on Sunday morning in the Hall of Appearances without Pema and most of the others. Adams Rubble posted the log and made a few comments. Adams, Gen, Pia, Riddle, Quen and Wol were present for some or all of the session.

    Wol and I arrived from the Pavilion where we had just completed the 7:00 session.

    Adams Rubble: Hi Wol. You walked. That is such a "real life" thing to do. hehe
    Wol Euler: lol
    Wol Euler: I hate flying, it does feel un-real to me.
    Adams Rubble: :)
    PaB Listener Master: I've been touched by a PaB guardian.
    PaB Listener Master: Recording has started!
    Adams Rubble: I want to learn to tp in real life
    Adams Rubble: It would be funny if no one else showed up here today
    Wol Euler: yeh
    Adams Rubble: Hmm. Not too many are online yet
    Wol Euler: hello pia.
    Adams Rubble: Hellooooo Pia :)
    Wol Euler: my you have a bright facelight :-)
    Pia Iger: Hi, Wol, Adams.
    Pia Iger: I can't see I have face light
    Wol Euler: well, the room changed drastically when you came in :-)
    Pia Iger: but it's given to me by Wol.
    Adams Rubble: Hello Riddle :)
    Wol Euler: ah!
    Riddle Sideways: good morning all
    Wol Euler: oh, you are wearing two!
    Wol Euler: hello riddle
    Wol Euler: go to the View menu and select "highlight transparent"
    Wol Euler: there #s a big one away from your chin and a asmall one between your eyes.
    Adams Rubble wonders what is a facelight
    Wol Euler: the small one is mine, the large one is the brighter.
    Wol Euler: facelight is a local light source that you wear to brighen up your appearance in dark areas.
    Wol Euler: set the sun to midnight
    Adams Rubble: Hello Quen
    Wol Euler: spooky, riddle, you are looking right into my cam!
    Adams Rubble has her own facelight
    Wol Euler: hello quen
    Wol Euler: lol
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, goes with my disorientation today
    Adams Rubble: Good to see you Riddle. It seems like it has been awhile
    Adams Rubble: ty Wol
    Riddle Sideways: I have been too busy to be in SL
    Riddle Sideways: is so nice to have the wiki/blog to read
    Wol Euler: mhmm
    Adams Rubble: and I haven't been able to make your session
    Adams Rubble: Yes, the logs are great
    Riddle Sideways: well, lately I have been taking over my sessions and nobody can changes subjects :)
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Wol Euler chuckles.
    Wol Euler: I'm almost inclined to take that as a challenge.
    Riddle Sideways: ya'll should come and slap me
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: but, as Pema put it... I am falling in love with Adams blog
    Adams Rubble blushes

    Riddle tells us aabout a RL meeting of virtual world acquaintances

    Riddle Sideways: last weekend I had about 15 people from another virtual world meet each other at my house
    Riddle Sideways: probably the reason I will use not to meet any of you :)
    Adams Rubble quakes with fear
    Wol Euler: wow, what an idea.
    Riddle Sideways: My mental pictures of you are so angelic
    Riddle Sideways: that RL might mess that up
    Wol Euler: heheheheh
    Adams Rubble: Ah, my experoence in August was the opposite
    Wol Euler: I promise not to slobber on your rug or dig holes in the lawn.
    Adams Rubble: haha Wol
    Riddle Sideways: lol
    Riddle Sideways: ummmm, what is this little "11170" in the middle?
    Wol Euler: ah, that is a prototype Listener. That is the master unit which coordinates the little Listeners taht we are each wearing.
    Adams Rubble looks up nervously
    Wol Euler: we are running semi-live, recording and transmitting and storing in a database.
    Wol Euler: but we are not yet publishing it.
    Wol Euler: I hoped for a large turnout and a lot of shouting at thtis meeting, to give the system a thorough shakedown.
    Pia Iger: seems others are not online
    Adams Rubble: YO MIKE!
    Riddle Sideways: HELLLLLOOOOOOO, TESTING 1 2
    Wol Euler shouts: Where is everyone!?
    Riddle Sideways: so, master big brother is recording us and storing it in a vault in a mountain
    Wol Euler: yep
    Riddle Sideways: and the public can't hear us
    Wol Euler: well, he's been doing that for decades actually :-|
    Wol Euler: and yes, the public can#t hear.
    Wol Euler: yet.
    Adams Rubble pictures Fael in a dark smoke filled room with earphones
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmm, hard to image
    Adams Rubble: How about Cheney?
    Adams Rubble: hehe
    Riddle Sideways: Faenik?
    Wol Euler: boo! hiss!
    Adams Rubble: could be
    Wol Euler: Faenik is a problem actually, since he's not an avatar he will not be recorded.
    Adams Rubble: booo
    Wol Euler: There are possible solutions, but we are leaving those for Phase Two.
    Wol Euler nods. Boo indeed.
    Adams Rubble: Faenik was brilliant at the 7 am session yesterday
    Riddle Sideways: oh dear, I want Faenik comments too
    Wol Euler: well, we will find a solution. but first, we want to get it working at all.
    Wol Euler: wearen't going to make October 1, sorry to say, that is too close and we have too much still to do.
    Wol Euler: but it could certainly be ready by the end of Princeton.
    Riddle Sideways: not the usual way of doing software
    Riddle Sideways: add features and skip functional
    Wol Euler: lol
    Riddle Sideways: hope Princeton will be recorded
    Wol Euler: RL-recorded you mean?
    Wol Euler: good idea
    Riddle Sideways: maybe some video
    Riddle Sideways: not 72 hours
    Adams Rubble could see that both ways
    Wol Euler: ... though that goes against your seeing us all as angels, Riddle.
    Wol Euler: perhaps better just to have sound.
    Riddle Sideways: I know, I read that too
    Riddle Sideways: but, I am a counterdiction in my own rightt
    Wol Euler: :-)
    Adams Rubble: How did the conversation go in your RL group Riddle?
    Riddle Sideways: not been to any RL PaB meetings
    Adams Rubble: You said you met 15 people?
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, that was a group of Video Ranch avatars
    Riddle Sideways: several were not what their avatars present
    Wol Euler grins
    Riddle Sideways: serveral were exactly what they present
    Adams Rubble sees conversation being tentative
    Riddle Sideways: that group is much more about music
    Adams Rubble: Ah
    Riddle Sideways: much more play
    Riddle Sideways: then content
    Riddle Sideways: one of the most chatty avs was the most silent at party
    Wol Euler: ah :)
    Adams Rubble can understand that :)
    Riddle Sideways: the studio that the live concerts are video'ed is near me
    Riddle Sideways: and we all went to watch how it is done
    Riddle Sideways: showed up late
    Riddle Sideways: one group of musicians had been driving for 8 hours
    Riddle Sideways: had a cup of water
    Wol Euler: wow.
    Riddle Sideways: jumped on green screen stage and played great
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Riddle Sideways: then died
    Riddle Sideways: no, but nearly
    Riddle Sideways: anyway, enough about me
    Riddle Sideways: what about those APAPBs
    Adams Rubble: wb Quen :)
    Riddle Sideways: there are sooooo many threads going on at this point
    Wol Euler: hello quen.
    Riddle Sideways: I need a score card
    Riddle Sideways: hi Quen
    quen Oh: hello Adams, Wol, Riddle
    quen Oh: and last but not least hi Pia
    quen Oh: sorry for the delay
    Adams Rubble has many threads herself

    Pema had written an email to the group suggesting that there were three ways of expressing the relationship of my three selves, i.e inner person (z-self), my real life "self" and my lead avatar. One that there was no relationship with Being for any; one that the inner person was Being and the others derived Being from there and the third that all were Being. He then made the analogy of a stick casting different shadows

    Riddle Sideways: the email thread about light casting shadows off 3 sticks
    Adams Rubble: yes?
    Riddle Sideways: was fav
    Wol Euler: mmhm, we were talking about that earlier.
    Adams Rubble: yes, at this morning's session
    Riddle Sideways: oooo, will have to wait for the movie to come out

    I brought my dream and some of my interpretations worked out with Wol at the previous 7 am session

    Adams Rubble: I wrote about it some in my blog this morning and then was able to develop it a bit with Wol's help
    Wol Euler: :-)
    Adams Rubble: Not a big deal though (except maybe for me :) )
    Adams Rubble: Last night I was dreaming on all the different levels and watching myself at those levels too
    Adams Rubble: For the first time since being a child I saw myself lying there
    Adams Rubble: Then I forgot much but know that I was dreaming of other levels
    Wol Euler: hello gen.
    Adams Rubble: The most dramatic was Adams watching a red pepper growing
    Riddle Sideways: this group has helped me get back to that place too
    Adams Rubble: hi gen :)
    quen Oh: hello Genesis
    Adams Rubble: It was beautiful
    Adams Rubble: but then my physical self opened its eyes
    genesis Zhangsun: Hi All
    Riddle Sideways: hi Gen
    Adams Rubble: and the scene vannished
    Adams Rubble: Adams was bitterly disappointed
    Riddle Sideways: beware openning eyes and not having it disappear
    Adams Rubble: :)
    Wol Euler: heheh
    Adams Rubble: I don;t know how all that relates to Being yet
    Riddle Sideways: then we won't tell you
    Adams Rubble: But it is one of the shadows
    Adams Rubble: haha Riddle
    Adams Rubble: you can tell :)
    Riddle Sideways: one of the few rules of life is not to tell the ends of books or movies or ...
    Riddle Sideways: the whole trip is about going there
    quen Oh: nor the beginning of them..
    Wol Euler nods
    quen Oh: basically one wants only to hear from a trustworthy source that there is a good movie you should watch...
    genesis Zhangsun: If you think about path as fruition then perhaps the fact that there is a good movie to watch out there is enough
    Adams Rubble: Yes Gen :)
    genesis Zhangsun: If you think about it from everything I have learned from PaB
    Riddle Sideways: trouble is too many ... sources are too willing to tell you of there choices in movies
    genesis Zhangsun: Yes but perhaps that is all there is a lot of people pointing at what they think is "the best movie"
    Wol Euler: mmhmm, it#s about trust. Earning the right to have a share of your atttention.
    genesis Zhangsun: Everything I have learned in PaB suggests that there is no right way to define Being
    genesis Zhangsun: have you noticed that when Pema defines Being
    Riddle Sideways: ahhh, Gen hits the target
    genesis Zhangsun: he adjusts it to the capacity to understand of each listener
    genesis Zhangsun: he speaks in the language of Christiantiy, or Buddhism
    genesis Zhangsun: or Science
    genesis Zhangsun: but its not about the framework of the vocab
    genesis Zhangsun: but what it points to
    Adams Rubble: I am at a point where I feel a need to have a firmer grasp myself :)
    Pia Iger: why?
    Pia Iger: grasp of meaning of Being?
    Adams Rubble: I think I have gone as far as I can by myself to live a better life, to be a better person, to be more compassionate
    Adams Rubble: I need to reach out to something bigger than me
    I had not really considered the idea that I may have been guided by Being on the road thus far. I have been fully aware of what people in PaB have done for me but not really that there has been something more. I had asked God to come in through the door and He had. Gen made me aware of this with the following question, the title of the log:
    genesis Zhangsun: but Adams have you really been by yourself the whole time?
    Adams Rubble: :)
    quen Oh: perhaps reach out to others? don't know what you mean?
    Adams Rubble: reach out to something bigger, Quen = Being/God
    quen Oh: ah...
    Adams Rubble: and Gen, the answer is no, thanks :)
    genesis Zhangsun: :)
    genesis Zhangsun: big exists in the smallest of spaces, big is all the time in any crevice of every moment
    Pia Iger: That is true, Gen. But we may not know that. Adams wants to be more aware of Big existing there.
    Pia Iger: we know Big is there, but we don't directly feel it.
    Adams Rubble: Gen seems to be suggesting that I look to what helped me get where I am now
    Riddle Sideways: very good place to start
    Riddle Sideways: there are things/history that has helped you so far
    Riddle Sideways: there are hundreds of sessions recorded
    Riddle Sideways: most you were at
    genesis Zhangsun: :)
    Adams Rubble: weelllll
    Riddle Sideways: Being has been defined hundred ways
    Riddle Sideways: one or two sing true notes
    Riddle Sideways: in you
    Riddle Sideways: collect those excerpts yourself
    Riddle Sideways: and see if they fit, show, point
    Adams Rubble: hehe. By conicidence, I am doing just that Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: maybe we all are :)
    Adams Rubble: It takes a long time :)
    Riddle Sideways: yes, and take that time
    Riddle Sideways: the trip is fun and worth it
    Adams Rubble: and enlightening
    Riddle Sideways: watch the butterflies along the road
    Adams Rubble: :)
    genesis Zhangsun: I think this is the beautiful things about PaB is that it allows each person to define Being and their path for themselves
    genesis Zhangsun: and not to let others do it for you]
    genesis Zhangsun: this process keeps it honest for me
    Riddle Sideways: yes Gen!
    Riddle Sideways: there is not a preacher in a building down the street
    Riddle Sideways: telling you how the path goes
    Riddle Sideways: however, there is responibility to yourself to do the walking/talking
    Adams Rubble: yes, and to know when what you are feeling is reality
    genesis Zhangsun: for me it is this earnestness or responsibility as you call it to do the walking/talking search which is our greatest resource
    Adams Rubble: to figure out when
    Adams Rubble: Did Pema leave any instructions about posting log?
    genesis Zhangsun: not that I know of
    genesis Zhangsun: any volunteers?
    Adams Rubble: I am posting the 7 am and could just do this one as well if you want
    genesis Zhangsun: thank you Adams
    Riddle Sideways: thanks
    Riddle Sideways: whoever has the longest log
    Riddle Sideways: and folks, I need to go get ready to go someplace
    genesis Zhangsun: bye Riddle
    Riddle Sideways: ha, I am going to a Tie-Dye party
    Wol Euler: ok, I too should be going, dinner awaits.
    Adams Rubble: OK. Good to see you Riddle. bye :)
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    genesis Zhangsun: Bye Wol
    Adams Rubble: bye Wol, thanks :)
    Wol Euler: sounds like fun.
    Riddle Sideways: bye all
    Wol Euler: bye everyone, take care.
    Adams Rubble: The rain seems to have finally stopped here in RL :)
    quen Oh: bye all
    Adams Rubble: bye Quen :)
    Pia Iger: I am projecting SL as wet as RL in my mind.
    genesis Zhangsun: bye I am off too
    Adams Rubble: We had a good bit of rain :)
    Adams Rubble: bye Gen :)
    genesis Zhangsun: sorry I was late and thanks for letting me join in :)
    Pia Iger: bye, Gen
    Adams Rubble: always good to see you Gen :)
    genesis Zhangsun: bye
    Adams Rubble: I left you an IM
    genesis Zhangsun: same to you both!
    Adams Rubble: ah you going too, bye Pia :)
    genesis Zhangsun: and see you in Princeton!
    Adams Rubble: yes :)
    Pia Iger: head to my beach. This room is not airy here
    Adams Rubble: :)

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