2008.10.13 07:00 - An Island of Familiarity

That morning, Fael and Gaya and I (Pema) arrived at the pavilion at around the same time.

Fael Illyar: Hi Pema :)
Fael Illyar: Hi Gaya :)
Fael Illyar: Ah, new AO?
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Pema Pera: Hi Gaya!
Pema Pera: And hi again Fael!
Gaya Ethaniel: how are you both?
Fael Illyar smiles.
Pema Pera: fine!
Fael Illyar: 5 meters from each other ... well, although there's a wall between us.
Pema Pera: Fael and I just had breakfast, together with a couple other visitors in my interdisciplinary program
Pema Pera: one from France, one from Holland
Gaya Ethaniel smiles

I was commenting on the fact that Fael's typist had just arrived in Princeton, where Pema's and Fael's typist were sitting in adjacent rooms. Adams then joined us.

Fael Illyar: somehow these meetings don't have all that many people lately...
Faenik: could be
Fael Illyar: Hi Adams :)
Pema Pera: Hi Adams!
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Adams Dubrovna: Hello, Fael, Pema, Gaya :)
Fael Illyar: just 5 meters RL distance between me and Pema now :)
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Pema Pera: All except Gaya and Faenik are now in New Jersey . . .
Gaya Ethaniel: We are there 'in spirit'
Adams Dubrovna: I wanted to give Fael a welcome!
Pema Pera: yes, Gaya!
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Adams Dubrovna: Yes Gaya
Pema Pera: Is there a RL Faenik? Might be possible to create one!
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes he 'lives' with me
Adams Dubrovna: Hello Corvi :)
Pema Pera: Hi Corvi!
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hiya!
Pema Pera: Adams, would you be able to join us for lunch sometimes this week?
Fael Illyar: Hi Corvi :)

Corvi dropped by, and we continuedto talk about RL distances.

Adams Dubrovna: Not sure yet. I will try :)
Adams Dubrovna: I was thinking about it
Pema Pera: would be great, if you have a chance
Adams Dubrovna: yes, thanks
Fael Illyar: Who knows, maybe I'll pay a visit ... well, if I feel like using this .. umm ... public transport more than I have to :)
Adams Dubrovna: That would be nice too
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Pema Pera: Of course, you're welcome for dinner too, Adams, to meet Fael; most dinners for me are spoken for, until the PaB dinner on Friday
Pema Pera: Corvi, in case you're wondering: Fael is visiting me in Princeton, sitting next door in RL ;)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Oh! How nice!
Fael Illyar: 5 meters and one wall in between :)
Fael Illyar: well ok, maybe 7
Corvuscorva Nightfire giggles.
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and Adams..you are nearby?
Adams Dubrovna: I am about 15 miles away
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah
Corvuscorva Nightfire: very near, then.
Adams Dubrovna: but a looooong 15 miles
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I get that.
Pema Pera: took me 45 minutes each way, last week!
Fael Illyar: Yes, not very good connecting .. umm ... public transport.
Adams Dubrovna: 40 -45 minutes by bus
Adams Dubrovna: lots less by train
Corvuscorva Nightfire: not the quality to which you have grown accustomed, eh Fael?
Fael Illyar: well, you need to get to train station first :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Adams Dubrovna: yes, that's the rub
Adams Dubrovna: easy on my end
Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
Fael Illyar: not so easy from the institute ... well, I guess walking is nice when you can see outside.
Faenik: could be
Gaya Ethaniel didn't see many people walking when she visited US last
Adams Dubrovna: haha Gaya
Pema Pera: you can walk to the "Dinky", the small train that connects Princeton Junction with the campus
Pema Pera: half an hour walking from here
Corvuscorva Nightfire: 2 miles?
Adams Dubrovna: More people walking now than then Gaya :)
Pema Pera: but then it takes more than an hour all the way to New Brunswick station
Gaya Ethaniel: well... things were spread out Adams. Had to drive to get a packet of chewing gums IIRC
Fael Illyar: I took Manhattan Supershuttle to New York Penn Station... never seen as mad traffic as downtown Manhattan :P
Gaya Ethaniel: ok... yes that was more than 10 yrs ago Adams
Adams Dubrovna: Just in the last few months Gaya with the surging gas prices
Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
Adams Dubrovna: But yes, things are ridiculously spread out
Fael Illyar: yes, quite

We talked about communities in RL.

Gaya Ethaniel: well lucky you've got such a large amount land at any rate
Gaya Ethaniel: things being spread out... does that affect 'community feel'?
Fael Illyar: it's not like we're lacking land in Finland either. People just seem to enjoy packing close together.
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
Adams Dubrovna: It's complicated Gaya, many different types of living situations
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes. very much, though
Gaya Ethaniel: no such luxury in Korea
Corvuscorva Nightfire: there are very few villages in the us
Gaya Ethaniel: true... US is a large and diverse country also
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and we move so much...
Faenik loves wells!
Corvuscorva Nightfire: that communities do not stay for long.
Gaya Ethaniel: oh move often? that's new to me
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: you move alot, don't you?
Gaya Ethaniel: mm... not very far each time no
Corvuscorva Nightfire: really?
Gaya Ethaniel: yes always within London
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah
Corvuscorva Nightfire: in my town, there are smaller and larger communities
Fael Illyar: yes, people in Finland do move but not usually too far :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I have moved within in it from neighborhood to neighborhood for 15 years.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it is very different in each neighborhood...and community changeds
Gaya Ethaniel: ah... of course I have moved between neighbourhoods yes
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but I've been part of the larger city community all that time
Fael Illyar prods Pema.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: so maybe it's not all that different.
Gaya Ethaniel nods

And then about communities in SL.

Pema Pera: for me moving into SL was quite a shift
Pema Pera: like entering a new country
Pema Pera: new customs
Pema Pera: new cultur
Pema Pera: culture
Fael Illyar: Yes, that's what it is :)
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: buiding neighborhood communities is a little different here, though
Gaya Ethaniel smiles. yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: because one can "live" in several neighborhoods at the same time
Faenik: なるほど^^
Fael Illyar: Yes, distance doesn't prevent things :)
Pema Pera: yes, that's the beauty of it!
Adams Dubrovna: In RL communities serve physical needs
Fael Illyar: in SL, mental
Adams Dubrovna: yes
Gaya Ethaniel: mm...
Adams Dubrovna: living communities that is
Gaya Ethaniel: RL communities serve both needs for me
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes
Fael Illyar: there's always something of a physical element in RL communities.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: maybe here to?
Adams Dubrovna: Here we can just tp from place to place :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: well, yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but there are structures aroun which we gather?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and find 'random" neighbors?
Fael Illyar: "physical needs" element I meant
Adams Dubrovna: This is more of a spiritual community...a place were friends get together
Adams Dubrovna: where
Fael Illyar: SL can't quite do much about those.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes..but here is a structure
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I would not have met you, probably had I not come to this structure
Fael Illyar: mental _is_ stucture

I announced that we might have a cameraman drop in, for a bit.

Pema Pera: btw, in a few minutes someone will visit us to shoot a bit of video footage
Corvuscorva Nightfire: k
Pema Pera: I hope that's okay with everybody?
Fael Illyar: sure
Corvuscorva Nightfire: absolutely!
Pema Pera: it may (or may not) be used in a grant proposal we will submit
Adams Dubrovna: OK
Pema Pera: to pay for tier and various Kira/PaB related activities
Gaya Ethaniel: np
Pema Pera: I may use voice to provide brief background narrative
Adams Dubrovna: Rubble is more photogenic
Pema Pera: you can just keep typing in the same way as always
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Pema Pera: no need to be different :)
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
Gaya Ethaniel: mm... change clothes I think
Pema Pera: hehe
Fael Illyar smiles.
Faenik: indeed?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Dubrovna looks fabulous...and Gaya, those clothes are beautiful..
Gaya Ethaniel smiles. ty
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but do as you will.
Adams Dubrovna trying to think of normal conversation :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: we were talking about sl communities
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i was thinking how many of mine involved a "place"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: in sl.
Adams Dubrovna: The pavilion is important to our meeting
Fael Illyar: in SL, you can easily keep in contact with people who can give you what you need, mentally.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: yes..you don't have to stay in the place
Fael Illyar: pavilion is important but hardly the only place we could use.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: nor is it the only place "we" meet.
Adams Dubrovna: yes but RL can be like that too
Fael Illyar: like that?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: For me, this neighborhood includes the pavilian, kira, moons place, and wol's place
Adams Dubrovna: A group may meet in different places
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Fael Illyar: of course, the place is set just so everyone gets together :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I have another community...that includes a person's home, a shop, another home, and a place to dance...wehre the same people are often at all those places.
Adams Dubrovna: No cleaning needed to get ready for group
Pema Pera: :)
Gaya Ethaniel giggles
Adams Dubrovna: or after group :)

Genesis joined us.

Fael Illyar: Hi Gen :)
Gaya Ethaniel: one can always meet in a gallery in RL Adams. no cleaning required
Adams Dubrovna: Hello Gen :)
Pema Pera: Hi Gen!
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Adams Dubrovna: Somebody has to clean the gallery :)
genesis Zhangsun: Yikes things are rezzing slowly for me
genesis Zhangsun: Hey all
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Gen
genesis Zhangsun: Hey Corvi
Gaya Ethaniel smiles. true
Corvuscorva Nightfire: my other community in sl is around a role play sim.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and is very large..I don't know most of the people in it.
Adams Dubrovna: role play?
Adams Dubrovna: sounds interesting
Corvuscorva Nightfire: sort of world of warcraft like..fighting, healing, stuff like that.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I'm a healer.
Adams Dubrovna: ah
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Corvuscorva Nightfire: two are purposeful communities..one is accidental
Fael Illyar: it's kind of strange feeling to be in this meeting here and then suddenly pay attention that there are americans talking loudly in the next room and realize that I'm not quite where I'm used to being :P
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs
Adams Dubrovna: :)
genesis Zhangsun: brb
Corvuscorva Nightfire: so this environment is familiar...and that is not!
Gaya Ethaniel: know the feeling
Faenik: indeed?
Adams Dubrovna: I have become very aware of living in parallel worlds
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods
Fael Illyar: Yes, it's kind of like half my world is coming with me :)
Adams Dubrovna: yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles at Fael.
Pema Pera: First time I was exposed to this was while entering a virtual world from an airline lounge -- suddenly being back in "my" virtual world
Gaya Ethaniel: yes you do 'sound' different Fael
Pema Pera: :)
Fael Illyar: I sound different?
Gaya Ethaniel: yes... mm... 'light'... something like that
Gaya Ethaniel: sorry hard to describe
Fael Illyar: light ... as in not heavy?
Gaya Ethaniel: yes
Adams Dubrovna: So our virtual world moderates our feelings in the real world it would seem
Gaya Ethaniel: not airy... you're unsettled perhaps...
Fael Illyar: Yes, I'm still getting used to the place.
Gaya Ethaniel: moderate?
Faenik: why not?
Gaya Ethaniel: (ah... not solid that's closer)
Fael Illyar: well, you could sort of say I'm looking for the shape to mold myself into so I can function here.
Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
Gaya Ethaniel: moderate Adams*?

Fael made an interesting observation about SL playing more of an anchor role than RL, in some situations.

Fael Illyar: SL is sort of like island of familiarity I can use to take a break from the change that is my RL at the moment.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: the home from which you are travelling.
Adams Dubrovna: I've been thinking about that. Maybe poor choice of words. In that context I was thinking we can take something familiar into a new context but the SL self helps us realize more about our RL self and that has nothing to do with moderate so I have no idea of what I am talking about
Fael Illyar: sort of, yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods to each of them.
Gaya Ethaniel: one can always change clothes/shapes in SL to suit RL changes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: It does "affect" my rl self very much.
genesis Zhangsun: Hey All this is Ken
genesis Zhangsun: He is part of the Kira team
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Ken.
Adams Dubrovna: Yes much easier to experiment with changes in SL
Pema Pera: welcome Neko/Ken!
Fael Illyar: Hi Ken
Adams Dubrovna: Hello Ken
genesis Zhangsun: and will be making a video for us
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Neko Longduk: Hi everyone.
Neko Longduk: Yes, assuming the tools are behaving.

Neko, the cameraman, got reading for his shooting.

Adams Dubrovna: or the avatars
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Fael Illyar: well, the conversation kind of died.
Faenik loves wells!
genesis Zhangsun: Yeah sorry about that
Corvuscorva Nightfire: ok..back to community?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or what was the last...
genesis Zhangsun: please continute
genesis Zhangsun: *continute
Corvuscorva Nightfire: familiar ssl, unfamiliar rl
genesis Zhangsun: * continue
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and..."backformation"
Corvuscorva Nightfire: how sl info affects rl info.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: or something like that.
Faenik: indeed?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's a word some of Wol's friends made up
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I like it alot.
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: information from sl...changing how we are in rl
Adams Dubrovna: By going through changes in SL it allows us to look at situations in a different light
Gaya Ethaniel: two affects each other... and different/changing all the time
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
Adams Dubrovna: We can role play siuations (with a nod to Corvi)
Corvuscorva Nightfire grins
Corvuscorva Nightfire: there are lots of levels of role play in sl
Adams Dubrovna: yes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: just as there are in rl
Adams Dubrovna: yes
Gaya Ethaniel nods
Adams Dubrovna: We wear our SL skins much more lightly(with a nod to Pema)
Adams Dubrovna: It teaches us to do the same with our RL skins
Gaya Ethaniel: well would be interesting to see about that when some of us gather in RL and meet at PaB together
Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles...and sl is travel, so we can "choose" without our previous assumptions about ourselves..or our previous communities assumptions.
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods to Gaya.
Adams Dubrovna: yes Corvi...and help us to see how those assumptions can affect us in RL
Corvuscorva Nightfire: mmhmm
Pema Pera: any chance we might see you here in Princeton some day, Corvi? How far is the travel from you to here?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I am in North Carolina...it's pretty far, but not impossible.
Pema Pera: ah, Amtrak train right up to Princeton Junction!
Fael Illyar: it's a bit further than that for me :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs. Yes.
Gaya Ethaniel smiles
Pema Pera: (sorry I was distracted part of the time -- fully back now :)
Gaya Ethaniel: welcome fully back Pema
Pema Pera: hehe
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Faenik: ah :)
Pema Pera: (but I'll try to ignore)
Pema Pera: (of course as soon as I wrote that I got another IM . . . .)
Pema Pera: wrong order!
Gaya Ethaniel giggles
Fael Illyar: wrong order?
Corvuscorva Nightfire looks to Adams.
Adams Dubrovna: Adams?
Fael Illyar looks puzzled.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: sorry..I had a thought
Pema Pera: the second line I type came before the first one
Pema Pera: for me at least

Back to role playing.

Pema Pera: yes, Corvi?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but i am having a hard time articulating it.
Adams Dubrovna: yes, that happens to me too sometimes
Corvuscorva Nightfire: about Corvi, role play, and the typist
Adams Dubrovna: the wrong order and the articulating
Adams Dubrovna: yes, that typist, I know the foibles of the typist very well
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Corvi would never make it to Princeton.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: cause she is "here"
Pema Pera: well . . . yes and no
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but..you might see a bit of her in the typist one day.
Adams Dubrovna: The typist takes us to Princeton in spirit
Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.
Pema Pera: I do feel someone very Faelesque about this person next door :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: mmmhmm
Fael Illyar smiles.
Adams Dubrovna: ...and Adams has been there too
Corvuscorva Nightfire things.
Pema Pera: *something
Gaya Ethaniel: Faelesque?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: most of Corvi comes with the typist.
Fael Illyar: yes, this person next door from me does feel Pemaesque too :)
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ah...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: but parts are only "here"...nothing that I can put a name to...but bits of Corvi are place dependent.
Pema Pera: in my experience, whenever I meet a typist, I'm amazed how much they are like their avatars .. . . no real exception yet!
Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles.
Faenik: could be
Pema Pera: but there may be in the future, I'm curious to see
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Corvi has informed the typist quite a bit.
Pema Pera: hehehe
Pema Pera: different parts of a personality may come through of course, but not disconnected, it feels
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I've no doubt I would not be an exception.
Pema Pera: like meeting the same person and speaking a different language with that person than you normally do
Corvuscorva Nightfire: mmmm
Adams Dubrovna: :)
Pema Pera: the atmosphere is different and actually some of the talk is different
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I like that analogy.
Pema Pera: but still recognizable
Corvuscorva Nightfire: mmhmm
Pema Pera: nee, Fael, dou?
Adams Dubrovna felt a warmth not here in SL
Pema Pera: ねえ、ファエルどう？
Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles at Adams.
Pema Pera: "not here in SL"?

Our photographer explained about his problems getting his equipment to work.

Neko Longduk: Sorry to come in and say nothing everyone...technical difficulties. :)
Adams Dubrovna: warmer than meeting here
Pema Pera: ah!
Fael Illyar: yes, it's different feeling to speak in RL than in SL
Corvuscorva Nightfire: don't worry Neko...each of us is sometimes silent, too.
Pema Pera: np, Neko, thanks a lot for giving it a try!
Fael Illyar still needs to setup japanese input on this laptop
Pema Pera: Adams, how about the warmth after several repeated meetings in RL and SL ?
Adams Dubrovna hoping the Japanese didn;t get ruined by my computer when moving the logs from blog to Wiki
Pema Pera: :)
Pema Pera: half the logs have Faenik speaking Japanese, half of them have him speaking gibberish :)
Faenik: heheh
Fael Illyar: if it was browser to browser copy&paste, likely not
Gaya Ethaniel: RL calls I'm afraid. Nice to see you all again. Good day.
Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Gaya!
Fael Illyar: See you later Gaya :)
Pema Pera: bye Gaya
Adams Dubrovna: Hmmm. Pema I will have to think about it. Maybe it is like once one realizes the great space one knows it is there
Adams Dubrovna: bye Gaya :)
Pema Pera: it's all an ongoing experiment
Adams Dubrovna: I found it very interesting reading the April logs. I felt a warmth there too
Adams Dubrovna: Your comment about the experiemnt reminded me of that since that is such an ongoing theme in the early days of PaB
Fael Illyar: come to think of it, that's what I remember being the general feeling from Pema the first SL meeting as well.
Adams Dubrovna: Hmmm. It took a while to meet Pema when I came to PaB
Pema Pera: :)
Fael Illyar also rather liked Faenik getting attention back then too
Adams Dubrovna: I was touched by people going through the same things I went through a couple of months later in those April logs. Asking the same questions. Feeling their excitememnt
Fael Illyar: well, if not for that, Faenik might not have been on my shoulder for much longer.
Pema Pera: There was also a special warmth associated with the tea house, more cozy in some sense and smaller scale, and yes, fewer people too I guess

Fael reminisced about his first PaB session.

Fael Illyar: my first meeting was on the sea condo at Buyeo I think.
Pema Pera: yes indeed, and I thought you were our Finnish neighbor here, who also speaks Japanese - that you were her alt
Pema Pera: I was pretty convinced
Pema Pera: you were born recently, much too wise for your age already about SL
Pema Pera: and you spoke equally fluent Japanese as her!
Fael Illyar didn't quite speak much of it back then...
Pema Pera: good enough to have a conversation in Japanese!
Fael Illyar: I mean in the meeting
Fael Illyar: not in general
Pema Pera: ah!
Pema Pera: well, I think I'll get back into RL now
Fael Illyar smiles.
Pema Pera: good seeing you all here!
genesis Zhangsun: See you all later!
Adams Dubrovna: Just want to note that although I might not have felt the warmth that doesn;t mean it is not there
genesis Zhangsun: Got to go
Adams Dubrovna: Bye Pema and Gen :)
Pema Pera: yes, Adams
Fael Illyar: I'll move back to RL as well. places to see here :)
Pema Pera: thanks, and I understood that
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I wonder if anyone has the notecard that introduces Play as Being?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye Pema, Gen
Adams Dubrovna: Enjoy your stay fael :)
Pema Pera: besides, there are many grades and shades
genesis Zhangsun: Bye Corvi
Fael Illyar: Thank you :)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Fael
genesis Zhangsun: Thanks for bearing with us all!
Adams Dubrovna: yes Pema
Neko Longduk: Nice to meet you all, briefly.
Pema Pera: does someone have a note card for Corvi?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: A delight to meet you, as well, Neko
genesis Zhangsun: sure
Pema Pera: thanks for coming over, Neko!
Fael Illyar: Yes, nice to meet you Neko.
Pema Pera: and come back any time -- just to chat
Adams Dubrovna: Nice to meet you Ken
Pema Pera: every day here at 1 am 7 am 1 pm 7 pm :)
Adams Dubrovna: notcard?
Fael Illyar: there's a draft on the wiki
Adams Dubrovna: for Corvi?
Fael Illyar: good enough to use I guess.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: thank you, Gen
genesis Zhangsun: yeah why for Corvi?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I wanted one to hand out..
genesis Zhangsun: Didn't think about that Adams
Adams Dubrovna: Ahhhh
genesis Zhangsun: Oh right
genesis Zhangsun: ok
Corvuscorva Nightfire: in case I needed it.
Fael Illyar: well, cut&paste works :)
Adams Dubrovna: And Gen gave you one?
genesis Zhangsun: good idea Corvi
Pema Pera: Hi zeng2008
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Zeng.
Pema Pera: 中国人？
Corvuscorva Nightfire: were were meeting here...but most are leaving.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: I am staying.
Adams Dubrovna: Ah, Rublle has the notecard
Fael Illyar: yes, well, I'll log off now.
Adams Dubrovna: Rubble
Fael Illyar: Have fun, everyone :)
Adams Dubrovna: I must go too. bye all :)
genesis Zhangsun: See you
Neko Longduk: Bye
Pema Pera: see y'all soon again!