2008.10.17 19:00 - Return of a new Friend

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    stevenaia Michinaga was filling in for Adelene  for the evening as she was in Princeton for the PaB Fest.  The comments are stevenaia's
    I arrived to find Fael Illyar already in the pavilion. I knew I was going to meet Fael tomarow at the PaB fest and talk to about how the event was going so far.  Rowan Marsala joined us shortly but was busy sorting through her inventory and kept us company for a bit.

    Rowan Stevenaia Fael 2008-10-17.jpg

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Fael
    Fael Illyar: Hi Steven :)
    Fael Illyar: oh, interesting, I'm just in time for meeting.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I cleared my cach so rezzing for my will take a long time, been reading the log... thanks
    stevenaia Michinaga: SL tonight, Rl tomarrow
    Fael Illyar nods.
    stevenaia Michinaga: how was the evening
    Fael Illyar: it was a nice dinner :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: is everyone else still out an about?
    Fael Illyar: likely, Sylectra gave me a ride to m apartment here at IAS.
    Fael Illyar: she'll likely not login, she didn't have much sleep last night
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, I heard...smile
    stevenaia Michinaga: we must have met here previously, no?
    Fael Illyar: Hi Rowan :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: Hello Rowan
    Fael Illyar: we? I've seen you a couple of times but I guess this must be the first 7pm I'm taking part in :)
    Rowan Masala: Hi Fael, Steven
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice outfit, quite a departure from what you usually wear
    Rowan Masala nods
    Fael Illyar: you don't see that kind very often in SL ... well, at least not in the places I frequent :)
    Rowan Masala: yeah, I have a friend who's a Muslim, so I thought I'd try hijab and see what it felt like to wear
    Fael Illyar: Ah
    stevenaia Michinaga: makes sence, I usually hang with dead heads, I seem to fit in there quite nicely
    Rowan Masala smiles
    Fael Illyar: dead heads?
    stevenaia Michinaga: Greatful Dead (former rock band) fan
    Fael Illyar: ah
    stevenaia Michinaga: they have a sim here in SL where thney constanly stream concerts
    Fael Illyar: I guess muslim outfit wasn't to your style?
    stevenaia Michinaga: you are from finland, Fael?
    Fael Illyar: Yes :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: so you get the prize for traveling the farthest?, or did you have business in the States
    Rowan Masala: oh, are you in Princeton this weekend, Fael?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes she is
    Fael Illyar: well, depends on if you consider me being at IAS for 2 weeks other business :)
    Fael Illyar arrived last Sunday.
    stevenaia Michinaga: a nice place to visit for a time, I'm sure, are you here just for PaB and Kira?
    Fael Illyar: that restaurant we were at. The table, as we left it, would feed at least one, if not two other groups of the same size.
    Fael Illyar: well, I suppose I might go sightseeing a bit next week ... perhaps :)
    Fael Illyar: but I'm also sort of sightseeing IAS too :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: Have you been to the states before? with all your new frends you will have plenty of places to stay here
    Fael Illyar: nope, first time to states
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am actually wearing a ring made in Finland, remind me to show you
    Fael Illyar: I'll try to remember :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: wow,, Rowan, an entirely new look
    Fael Illyar: oh, we're sort of similar style with Rowan now :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I hvae nothing to compare with that
    Fael Illyar: Well, it takes time and effort to collect clothing :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: and I am the antithisis of a shopper
    stevenaia Michinaga: so I have Jeans and several t-shirts
    Fael Illyar: I have a few of those too
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am not defined by my avitar
    stevenaia Michinaga: in fact my avatar was a gift
    Fael Illyar: well, me neither but I tend to define my avatar by myself :)
    Rowan Masala: Sammy Biddle, the creator of the Gion Project, gave me this av
    stevenaia Michinaga: the avatar i created for em was female, so it figures that the male avatar would be defined for me by a female friend
    stevenaia Michinaga: Must be what they saw
    Fael Illyar: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: so how did you come upon PaB?
    Fael Illyar: last May, I got introduced to Hotaru and she suggested I go take a look at a meeting.
    Fael Illyar: so, eventually, I did
    Fael Illyar has been participating quite nonstop since then.
    Fael Illyar: at first it was twice a day, then thrice a day for some time.
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, the interest is strong for me
    Fael Illyar: lately seems to average around once a day
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, this is my quiet time for me and it fits in well for me
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Fael Illyar: we all need rest sometimes :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, usually as little as possible
    stevenaia Michinaga: would rather be awake at the computer than awake in bed
    Fael Illyar: Well, suppose that'd be preferable, yes :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: so what have you been doing this week, if you care to share?
    Fael Illyar: well, monday and tuesday, I was mostly just going with the flow, too tired with jet lag to really do much.
    Fael Illyar: I did manage to look around the instute and memorize the place though.
    Fael Illyar: Even meet some people.
    Fael Illyar: wednesday morning, Piet met with an interesting group from Phoenix. I went there too.

    It was getting late, however Corvuscorva Nightfire joined us.  Geo Netizen, a new face from 2 days earlier, retuned to continue with a discussion from a previous meeting and share his PaB experience

    Fael Illyar: Hi Corvi :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Corvi
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi all!
    Rowan Masala smiles at Corvi
    Rowan Masala: hi :)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins at Rowan.
    stevenaia Michinaga: how was your Friday?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Good! Hi, Geo!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: come on in, the water's fine!
    Fael Illyar: Hi Geo
    Geo Netizen: Hello Corvi ... nice to see you again
    Rowan Masala: hi Geo
    Geo Netizen: Hello Fael
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Good to see you again as well.
    Fael Illyar: I've been meeting (new) people all day. In RL, that tends to be a bit exhausting for me. Nevermind that it's only sort of half new people :)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: old/new people.
    Rowan Masala: What is the "Inner Eyes" group?
    Fael Illyar: Oh, the group name is Emotional Wrecks. a group Gaya made for herself.
    Fael Illyar: I joined since she needed more members to keep the group.
    Fael Illyar: well, that's quite some time ago.
    stevenaia Michinaga: i remember seeing that group
    Fael Illyar: do you want an invite?
    stevenaia Michinaga: it seems to have a following, oh no thanks
    Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs.
    Rowan Masala: oh, my groups are full--was just wondering
    Rowan Masala: but thanks
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: It is perfect for me.
    Fael Illyar: only me, Gaya and Pia can use the Emotional Wreck tag at the moment ... well, I've never felt like I want to though :)
    Fael Illyar prefers Inner Eyes tag.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hmm...I think I might have to ask to use the Emotional Wreck tag sometimes.
    Geo Netizen: why is that?
    Fael Illyar: ok, done, you can switch to that one now
    Fael Illyar: or in a moment if it takes a while
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: thanks.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: right this second, no need...*smiles*
    Fael Illyar smiles 'That's good to hear'
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Were ya'll discussing anything before I sat down?
    Fael Illyar: nah, I was just being grilled about what I've been doing here the past week
    stevenaia Michinaga: we were reviewing our day and week... talking about Princeton
    Rowan Masala: and I'm mostly in IMs, unfortunately
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: hmm
    stevenaia Michinaga: watching Rowan change outfits
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Fashion show!
    Fael Illyar: fashion shows happen sometimes :)
    Rowan Masala: I told Steven I would come tonight if I could play with my inventory :)
    ]stevenaia Michinaga: I wasn;t complaining by any means
    Fael Illyar: but ... I'm getting kind of sleepy so I better go before I nod off here.
    Rowan Masala: Sleep well, Fael
    stevenaia Michinaga: see you in the morning, night Fael
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: gnight Fael
    Geo Netizen: Pax et bonum Faep
    stevenaia Michinaga: looking forward to it
    Fael Illyar: Yes, see you in the morning, Steve :)
    Fael Illyar: See you later Corvi, Rowan :)
    Fael Illyar: oh and Geo :)
    Geo Netizen: Sorry about the typo Fael
    Fael Illyar: no problem :)
    Fael Illyar waves
    stevenaia Michinaga: You are relatively now here, Geo, is that right?
    Geo Netizen: Yes ... very true.
    stevenaia Michinaga: have you been trying the 9 second meditation at all?
    Geo Netizen: I've found that a little longer and less frequent is better for me.
    stevenaia Michinaga: well less frequently is understandable
    Geo Netizen: But the idea is an excellent one
    stevenaia Michinaga: much can get done in 9 seconds
    Geo Netizen: Yes ...
    Geo Netizen: I think the point is to re-center frequently
    stevenaia Michinaga: often wonders what offcenter is for me sometimes
    Rowan Masala ponders this about Steven
    Geo Netizen: I feel scatter when I'm not centered (off-centered)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'm happilly present more than not.. or deluded,
    Geo Netizen: But then that's just a tautology
    Rowan Masala starts singing "And if you want me, you can find me left of center..."
    Corvuscorva Nightfire sing along.
    Geo Netizen: :)
    Geo Netizen: I finally read the log from the other night (2 ago I think) and it was an excellent discussion.
    Geo Netizen: I was sorry to have to leave in the midst of an excellent discussion on so may good topic.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Geo Netizen: I was, in a way, a free-form Socratic discussion in the finest tradition.
    stevenaia Michinaga: what was the topic?
    Geo Netizen: This is an excellent group and you are all very insightful.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Thank you, Geo.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: It was very good to have you there, too.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Geo was talking about 0th to 1st to 2nd life.
    Rowan Masala: what is 0th life?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles..might be Being?
    Geo Netizen: It was the 2008.10.15 19:00 discussion
    Rowan Masala smiles
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: or might not be.
    Geo Netizen: We talk about SL
    Geo Netizen: that is second life
    Geo Netizen: Many people then refer to RL
    stevenaia Michinaga: aww, yes, comes back to me now
    Geo Netizen: But I think that's a misnomer
    Corvuscorva Nightfire smiles...
    Rowan Masala: agreed
    Geo Netizen: It should be FL or First Life
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: because they are all real?
    Geo Netizen: It should be FL or First Life
    Geo Netizen: So we have 1st and 2nd life
    Rowan Masala: and to break the dualism cycle, you add in 0th, or 3rd
    Geo Netizen: That, it seems raises the question of 0th life
    stevenaia Michinaga: I find it not very diferent from RL (FL)
    Geo Netizen: 0th, 1st and 2nd
    Geo Netizen: Very true
    stevenaia Michinaga: me is me, here is here
    Geo Netizen: Yes, very true
    Rowan Masala: assuming we haven't all had hultiple past lives, in which case SL might be a misnomer as well
    Geo Netizen: There is a core being that is present in all levels
    Rowan Masala: this might be like my 1025th life
    Rowan Masala: though I think I would be wiser if my soul were that old
    Geo Netizen: True but reincarnation, I think, is a different topic.
    stevenaia Michinaga: better than multiple personalities
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I think this is about how and why Being is bumpy with beings.
    Geo Netizen: We, I propose, are talking of concurrent existence.
    Rowan Masala: yes, I'm sorry. I seem to be all about distraction tonight. I'll leave you all to your discussion. Goodnight.
    Geo Netizen: Good night Rowan
    PaB Listener Master: Removing "Rowan Masala" from list.
    stevenaia Michinaga: night..poof she's gone
    Geo Netizen: I seem to have driven half the group off.
    Geo Netizen: O well, not the first time,  I do like discussions
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ha
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: you are not driving anyone off..
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, she was really jsut taking care of her inventory, I invited her as a warm soul to keep me company if no one showd up
    Geo Netizen: I just kidding (I Hope)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: it is, after all an hour after begining.
    Geo Netizen: Yes, I know I was late but I had a little difficulty finding the URL
    Geo Netizen: Sorry to come late
    stevenaia Michinaga: no alpogies necessary
    stevenaia Michinaga: or I would be aplogizing for my typing every night
    Geo Netizen: :)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: o darn..
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I don't mean to say that either.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I showed up moments before you.
    stevenaia Michinaga: I'm happy to have company tonight
    Geo Netizen: I do want to emphasize that this group, is a fantastic, freewheeling approach to some classic issues.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: mmhmm
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: exactly.
    Geo Netizen: I have been impressed.
    stevenaia Michinaga: we will be meeting tomarrow in to continue this in RL
    stevenaia Michinaga: shoudl be equally interesting
    Geo Netizen: Where is that?
    stevenaia Michinaga: in Princeton
    stevenaia Michinaga: about 13 of us plan on being there
    Geo Netizen: Ahhh ... how many of the group are in that area
    Geo Netizen: Ok
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: They are meeting there.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: but aren't usually there.
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, Fael is from Finland and another id from Oklahoma
    stevenaia Michinaga: some, like me, are nearby
    Geo Netizen: That part of the forum created by SL‚ removal of some limitations and the addition of others,  its fascinating.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Geo Netizen: In a sense, it is all part of the same continuum of being 0-1-2 that we talked about the other night.
    stevenaia Michinaga: we may do an online thing, in RL as a group
    stevenaia Michinaga: wonders if we will do it in a circle on pillows
    Geo Netizen: Don't mean to repeat myself but it fascinating, and you guys are very challenging.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs..some more than others.
    Geo Netizen: :)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire sighs..but it's to bed for me, now.
    stevenaia Michinaga: well, I must go too, have an early morning and a long day ahead,
    Geo Netizen: I should do so too
    stevenaia Michinaga: night all, we will meet again, I'm sure
    Geo Netizen: Glad you were still here when I finally figure out the address
    Geo Netizen: Pax et bonum to all
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: 'night all..I look forward to when we are together again.
    stevenaia Michinaga: this is my "Home"
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ah!
    You: since I come here more often then anywhere else
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: what a good idea!
    stevenaia Michinaga: night all, good to see you again
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