2008.12.31 01:00 - Moments of Grace

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    Tarmel Udimo was the guardian for this session and the comments are hers.

    When I arrived crusty was already there and Pema showed up quickly after. It was a small group... 

    Tarmel Udimo: hi amigo
    Crusty Goldshark: hi tarmel :)
    Tarmel Udimo: hi pema
    Pema Pera: Hi Crusty and Tarmel!
    Crusty Goldshark: hi pema
    Pema Pera: Thanks again, Tarmel, for taking over two slots, the previous one and this one -- allowing me to get a bit more sleep :-)
    Tarmel Udimo: that's fine, i'm happy...
    Pema Pera is happy too
    Tarmel Udimo: and how come you're not sleeping :-)
    Pema Pera: it's 6 pm right now
    Pema Pera: I did take a nap in the afternoon though
    Pema Pera: Crusty, you're preparing for Christmas 2009?
    Crusty Goldshark: LOL - I tried to change the cap to green but it is non-editable :)

    I had disappeared to the fridge ..... and then we talked about beers, appropriate topic for New Year's eve celebration

    Tarmel Udimo: sorry I'm back - thought I'd help myself to a beer
    Tarmel Udimo: hohoho
    Pema Pera: I will do so when I reach your time, Tarmel -- 8 pm right?
    Crusty Goldshark: What beer you drinking?
    Tarmel Udimo: that's right...
    Pema Pera: (but seriously, Tarmel, sleeping or not, not having to be here is great, then I can come whenever I like, and also logging the chats is a great help)
    Tarmel Udimo: palma louca - a brazilian beer never had it before but it was on special crusty
    Tarmel Udimo: I understand pema - and you come a lot -
    Pema Pera: do you like it, Palma I mean?
    Tarmel Udimo: its okay...
    Tarmel Udimo: might have too much wheat
    Pema Pera: generally colder countries have better beers . . . .
    Tarmel Udimo: perhaps you're right
    Tarmel Udimo: but don't let the tropical nationals hear you
    Pema Pera: hehe, yes, Jamaican, Okinawan, etc
    Tarmel Udimo: yep.... now red stripe that's a beer made in the tropics
    Tarmel Udimo: and its the best :-)
    Pema Pera: Italian Peroni is nothing to write home about though. . . .
    Pema Pera: Red Stripe? Australian?
    Tarmel Udimo: oh one of my favourites - peroni
    Pema Pera: ah!
    Tarmel Udimo: jamaicain
    Pema Pera: you have a warm climate taste, I see :-)
    Pema Pera: You should try Orion beer from Okinawa
    Tarmel Udimo: okinawa - japanese?
    Pema Pera: yes
    Tarmel Udimo: humm - kiren
    Pema Pera: kirin yes
    Tarmel Udimo: nice
    Pema Pera: but ebisu is better, the best among the generally available ones in Japan
    Pema Pera: apart from the many microbreweries
    Tarmel Udimo: okay an expert is sitting amoung us :-)
    Pema Pera: (ebisu or yebisu, two spellings)
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Tarmel Udimo: a friend of mine is giving a 10 day tour in japan in april 2009
    Tarmel Udimo: following the bath houses
    Pema Pera: interesting idea!
    Pema Pera: will you come along?
    Tarmel Udimo: ideas rich, cash poor at the moment
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Tarmel Udimo: but you never know how being is going to manifest
    Pema Pera: indeed :)

    This was a transition into PaB speak

    Pema Pera: I really enjoyed your input by the way, in both dialogues earlier, 6 and 12 hours earlier
    Tarmel Udimo: crusty you missed a great talk today!
    Crusty Goldshark: oh?
    Tarmel Udimo: hummmmm
    Tarmel Udimo: one was with stim and pema
    Tarmel Udimo: and then one with maxine and pema
    Pema Pera: and hopefully others ones without pema soon!
    Tarmel Udimo: smiles
    Crusty Goldshark: :( oh well
    Crusty Goldshark: maybe I will catch the next one
    Tarmel Udimo: yes its will be up on the logs soon
    Pema Pera: we talked about "no need for practice", a topic you like, Crusty
    Pema Pera: and what that can mean in practice (no pun intended)
    Tarmel Udimo: haahaha
    Crusty Goldshark: ? _ I am very much for practice - with interludes of non-practice
    Pema Pera: ah!
    Pema Pera: we talked about how strictly speaking practice is not necessary, yet why it is also good to practice, and how to do that, with what kind of expectation/attitude
    Pema Pera: how do you see the need for practice?
    Tarmel Udimo: you topped it for me - celebration...
    Tarmel Udimo: this works and takes away the struggle
    Pema Pera: yes, a cheerful form of appreciation
    Tarmel Udimo: practise with ease
    Pema Pera: your reaction reminded me of my own, after reading the tsk book: I picked up zen again
    Pema Pera: I had grown tired of its seeming rigidity
    Tarmel Udimo: nods
    Pema Pera: but then, from the side of Being, I could see how to _really_ do it
    Pema Pera: you said something similar, right?
    Tarmel Udimo: this was a very powerful message today
    Tarmel Udimo: it certainly had an impact on me and i am sure many others
    Tarmel Udimo: describing how being operates

    I then went on to talk about a moment of grace

    Tarmel Udimo: the funny thing is I did have a moment of 'grace' about 24 hours ago...
    Pema Pera: glad to hear that, Tarmel! Do you want to say more about it?
    Tarmel Udimo: well it was simple, mundane and profound
    Tarmel Udimo: I had deceided to go to the movies - see a french movie -
    Tarmel Udimo: I am staying at a friends and was driving her car and parking in an unfamilar street and place
    Tarmel Udimo: I had to do a reverse park up a steep hill in a tiny space and the car was a manual (stick shift)
    Tarmel Udimo: and all of sudden the word that came up was smooth
    Tarmel Udimo: I parked effortlessly and my being was in the center of my chest breathing
    Tarmel Udimo: I knew it was there because of also the light seemed more glowing and golden as well
    Tarmel Udimo: it only lasted for about 10 mins and all the while my being just hummmed smoooooooth
    Pema Pera: yes, you somehow managed to step out of the way :-)
    Tarmel Udimo: yes
    Crusty Goldshark: Why do you feel it ended after 10 minutes?
    Tarmel Udimo: it didn't it never does
    Tarmel Udimo: but my access to the feeling state was wide open
    Tarmel Udimo: there was no blockage or veil
    Crusty Goldshark: :)
    Crusty Goldshark: Are the veils part of the being?
    Tarmel Udimo: well pema would say yes, being is everything
    Crusty Goldshark: Are they part of the being for you?
    Tarmel Udimo: no
    Crusty Goldshark: m m m. . .
    Tarmel Udimo: it feels more like my being muscle needs strengthening - hence things like Pab
    Tarmel Udimo: my capacity to hold being or stay connected needs work even though I know it is meant to be effortless
    Crusty Goldshark: LOL - well that is why we practice - because the exerience and the 'All is Being' are not in synch
    Pema Pera: Yes, and in a celebrating way. Coming back to the notion of practice as celebrating, not reaching; you know, it is so interesting to recognize this is many religions, once you've stumbled upon it. Take Christianity. Christians can really beam when saying "Jesus died for our sins" -- and the core point is the same, they use a particular rather complex way of pointing to the fact that all the hard work has been done, that we don't have to reach, that we can celebrate. At first hard to recognize, though.
    Pema Pera: tearing down real veils is terribly hard if not impossible; being invited to see that apparent veils are only apparent is a lot easier, and more fun
    Tarmel Udimo: yes and yet I also understand that each spark comes to being through a different veil, lens understanding
    Pema Pera: for us, yes, from our point of view
    Pema Pera: for Being it all is given together, no need for causality, cause and effect , no time
    Pema Pera: how would you describe that, Crusty?
    Crusty Goldshark: Well I would not, but from what I have heard . . .
    Crusty Goldshark: A condition of grace is increased by attention and awareness on it
    Crusty Goldshark: Wether this is through ease and celebration or conflict and focus - or a mix . . .
    Crusty Goldshark: or something else is not important - what is important is to increase the grace and loosen the veils
    Pema Pera: yes, triggers can be of many kinds
    Tarmel Udimo: yes and since my shift just happened I called it grace...
    Tarmel Udimo: but i was thinking did I get out of the way?
    Crusty Goldshark: That is fair enough and smooth might be a way of being and remembering that can increase that grace
    Pema Pera: yes, it is good to create some handles for ourselves
    Tarmel Udimo: it didn't feel like I stepped out of the way -
    Tarmel Udimo: it felt more like an expansion from my heart center
    Crusty Goldshark: Can you remember or connect to the feeling and sensations now?
    Tarmel Udimo: I am trying and not trying ;-)
    Pema Pera: :)
    Crusty Goldshark: :)
    Pema Pera: memories are tricky . . . they can inspire but easily cover over too
    Tarmel Udimo: but I have felt this shift in more subtler ways
    Tarmel Udimo: this was all encompassing
    Tarmel Udimo: I would like to be in that state always...
    Tarmel Udimo: but there is a residue.... I'm smiling more... :-)

    Then we talked about smiling techniques a lovely topic

    Crusty Goldshark: Does the smile connect to something inside?
    Pema Pera: Stim indicated that grace is always there, but we tend to obscure it, step in the way
    Tarmel Udimo: i think so - but enough of me - what about your grace moments pema and crusty
    Pema Pera: oh no, I enjoy Crusty's questions, please continue, Crusty!
    Crusty Goldshark: OK -
    Tarmel Udimo: nooooooooo
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    Crusty Goldshark: Well I am reminded of the idea of 'remebrance' in Sufism - this is a form of focus or attention on the nature or experience of grace . . .
    Tarmel Udimo: yes
    Crusty Goldshark: I am going to try and enter such a condition now . . .
    Pema Pera: yes, trying to remember in a sharp and pointing way ain't so good - but focusing on your side effects, like smiling, can be very powerful -- thank you, Crusty, that was a great question!
    Tarmel Udimo: grins
    Crusty Goldshark: I will smile
    Crusty Goldshark: I will bring the smile into the heart
    Pema Pera: sol
    Pema Pera: (smiling out loud)
    Tarmel Udimo: smiling
    Crusty Goldshark: The Heart smiles
    Crusty Goldshark: it glows
    Crusty Goldshark: It unfolds and enfolds
    Crusty Goldshark: Now we are smiling
    Crusty Goldshark: Now I am smiling more broadly

    Crusty must have cast a really good spell with his smiling techniques, because the avatar of bringing smiles to many showed up

    Pema Pera: hi Moon!
    Moon Fargis: good morning :)
    Tarmel Udimo: moooon
    Tarmel Udimo: wow, you've become a lion?
    Crusty Goldshark: Moon makes me smile :)
    Tarmel Udimo: and me
    Moon Fargis: ah well lion... lets call a big cat on feet
    Moon Fargis purrzzzzzzzzz
    Crusty Goldshark: I hear purring
    Moon Fargis: *meow meow*
    Tarmel Udimo: okay now i can see more like a dragon
    Moon Fargis: oh i also got a dragon avatar if you wish :)
    Tarmel Udimo: being one myself - i do like them...
    Moon Fargis: he hehe
    Pema Pera enjoys meeting fellow dragons
    Tarmel Udimo: yes should really start a dragon club
    Pema Pera: draconian club
    Crusty Goldshark: Will clowns be able to join?
    Pema Pera: with moon the lunatic
    Tarmel Udimo: hohohoho
    Moon Fargis: <- dog
    Tarmel Udimo: only as juggling acts
    Tarmel Udimo: however we all know its the clown /fool that dominated the court
    Crusty Goldshark: I will juggle fire and water
    Moon Fargis looks around
    Tarmel Udimo: an alchemist
    Crusty Goldshark: my hobby is alchemy
    Tarmel Udimo: turning flesh into spirit
    Crusty Goldshark: turning everything to gold
    Moon Fargis: hmm
    Crusty Goldshark: LOL
    Moon Fargis reaches crusty his candy collection
    Crusty Goldshark: and then back again . . .
    Tarmel Udimo: golden smiling
    Crusty Goldshark: Thanks for candy Moon
    Moon Fargis: hmhmm
    Moon Fargis: more worth than gold :)
    Crusty Goldshark: indeed - gold is as worthless as anything worthwhile and vice
    Crusty Goldshark: versa
    Crusty Goldshark: We have been practicing advanced smiling ;)
    Tarmel Udimo: part of a very long line of esoteric practises
    Moon Fargis: oh such smiling that goes to the ears?
    Crusty Goldshark: Why stop at the ears . . .
    Tarmel Udimo: past the ears and around the skull
    Tarmel Udimo: and down into the tum
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Crusty Goldshark: yes inside
    Pema Pera: "navel smiling"
    Tarmel Udimo: hehehehe, laughing out loud now...
    Crusty Goldshark: Yesterday I went for a walk and smiled at everyone - surprising how it is contagious
    Tarmel Udimo: good work crusty
    Crusty Goldshark: thanks - sometimes I only smile inside but sometimes I let a little light shine
    Tarmel Udimo: the universe thanks you
    Tarmel Udimo: ;-)
    Crusty Goldshark: Oh good - thanks to the Universe

    Then we were on the topic of food

    Crusty Goldshark: Time for me to practice more smiling - and have brekkie

    Tarmel Udimo: yum...

    Moon Fargis: brekkie
    Moon Fargis: wasnt that catfood ?
    Crusty Goldshark: Thanks guys - you are a tonic
    Pema Pera: hahaha, Moon!
    Tarmel Udimo: well it has been good - almost time for pema's beer
    Pema Pera: yeah, just thinking about it
    Crusty Goldshark: I might eat catfood - sardines and beans - had thet yesterday
    Pema Pera: but doesn't go well with cat food
    Tarmel Udimo: nooo
    Pema Pera: but goes well with sardines
    Moon Fargis: hehe
    Pema Pera: and fish and chips in general
    Tarmel Udimo: yes very good
    Crusty Goldshark: Yes had that two days ago - delicious
    Crusty Goldshark: I am a wer-Lobster - so like fish
    Crusty Goldshark: OK enough banter - gone
    Moon Fargis: See you later!
    Pema Pera: btw. I like Thich Nhat Hahn's notion of walking around with a "half smile" -- a bit more sustainable perhaps, and less ostentatious (he's the Vietnamese zen master)
    Tarmel Udimo: bye
    Pema Pera: oops
    Pema Pera: too late
    Moon Fargis slurps his hot tea
    Tarmel Udimo: and i will try to smile alot more
    Moon Fargis: so you dont smile enought?
    Tarmel Udimo: not nearly enough
    Moon Fargis: hmhmm maybe a dance can change that
    Moon Fargis: do you have a dancing animation ?
    Tarmel Udimo: no
    Tarmel Udimo: but just having you at Pab always makes me smile
    Moon Fargis: use this :)
    Pema Pera: what was the name again Moon?
    Moon Fargis: oh from what ?
    Pema Pera looking in his cluttered inventory
    Moon Fargis: onigokko?
    Pema Pera: the dance?
    Pema Pera: ah!
    Moon Fargis: ahh right
    Moon Fargis gave you onigokko_shippo.
    Moon Fargis: wear this then tarmel
    Moon Fargis: onigokko


    And we danced for a good minute and we all had fun... before heading off to bed or for Moon I think starting the day

    Pema Pera: /stop
    Moon Fargis: stop
    Tarmel Udimo: thanks you
    Moon Fargis: ^.^
    Pema Pera: that is how PaB got started
    Moon Fargis: haha
    Pema Pera: waaaaayyy back when
    Tarmel Udimo: sounds like a great way to start
    Pema Pera: and to stop, for today
    Tarmel Udimo: and now my friends I msut go....
    Pema Pera: see you all soon again!
    Moon Fargis: ok see you later tarmel ^^/
    Tarmel Udimo: happy new year
    Tarmel Udimo: bye

    Pema Pera: u 2!

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