2008.12.31 13:00 - Buddhilectualism!

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Quilty Bookmite. The comments are waiting to be written by someone.

    Quilty Bookmite: Hi Storm
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Quilty
    Quilty Bookmite: Hi Adams
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Adams
    Quilty Bookmite: Thought I was going to be on my own tonight.
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Storm and Quilty :)
    Storm Nordwind: How could I miss your last session for a while? :)
    Adams Dubrovna: here here
    Quilty Bookmite: You've been reading your email? I'm impressed. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: I only just sent it. I didn;t think anyone would have seen it yet.
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Quilty Bookmite: I think it's the right thing to do. I have a backlog of logs to post because I'm quite short of time right now.
    Storm Nordwind: I agree. I would do the same
    Adams Dubrovna: It's a busy time of preparation
    Quilty Bookmite: Yes, and it's not getting done quickly enough. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: Thank you.
    Adams Dubrovna: I remember feeling a bit of anxiety until the moment
    Quilty Bookmite: Well, I shouldn;t feel anxious. This is the second time round. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: I was anxious four times :)
    Storm Nordwind: Snap
    Quilty Bookmite: Most of the anxiety is coming from my wife.
    Adams Dubrovna: a little less each time :)
    Quilty Bookmite: 4 times? wow!
    Storm Nordwind: Tell me Quilty, what is the plural of Bookmite? Does it rhyme with 'sights' or 'pyrites'? ;)
    Adams Dubrovna: In US they are the same :)
    Quilty Bookmite: Mite as in insect I think. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: :-)
    Storm Nordwind: I know Adams!
    Adams Dubrovna: Oh
    Adams Dubrovna: are they diferent in UK?
    Quilty Bookmite: I didn't know that particular idiosynchracy.
    Storm Nordwind: Yes - Pie -right- ease
    Quilty Bookmite: Yes. More like pyritees. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: ah
    Adams Dubrovna: get it
    Quilty Bookmite: But since it's not my real name, I can't be certain how it's pronounced.
    Storm Nordwind: That's another difference of language pointed out to me by my fiancee just a few days ago
    Quilty Bookmite: Well, I knew about aluminium, but since it was originally named in the USA that is a particularly odd piece of British snobbishness.
    Quilty Bookmite: Anyway, has anyone got any new years resolutions lined up?
    Quilty Bookmite: I confess that I haven't made any for years.
    Adams Dubrovna just keep plugging away with what I am working on now :)
    Quilty Bookmite: Sounds good Adams.
    Adams Dubrovna: and get to bed early tonight :)
    Quilty Bookmite: Ah. Me too.
    Storm Nordwind: I have found New Year to be a time of endings rather than beginnings.
    Quilty Bookmite: I'm not going to see the new year in.
    Quilty Bookmite: Good endings or bad Storm?
    Storm Nordwind: Both. And neither.
    Storm Nordwind: Just a pattern I found once.
    Quilty Bookmite: A very Zen answer. :-)
    Storm Nordwind: hehe!
    Storm Nordwind: I discovered that whatever I was doing at midnight on New year's Eve was something that was passing from my life, rather than arriving
    Adams Dubrovna: interesting Storm
    Quilty Bookmite: I'll hopefully be sleeping and I suspect it may be one of my last full nights sleep for a while. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: putting a good end to things?
    Storm Nordwind: Yes Quilty, make the most of it!
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Quilty Bookmite: I will be attending a Buddhist festival tomorrow with my daughter.
    Quilty Bookmite: At least that is the plan.
    Storm Nordwind: I don't know about a good end, Adams. I think it's a time for reflection so I noticed it more, that's all
    Storm Nordwind: Great idea Quilty!
    Storm Nordwind: I did the same on Christmas Day
    Quilty Bookmite: It's the festival of Maitreya, the buddha that is to come.
    Quilty Bookmite: Cool! Was it a Christmas festival or something specifically Buddhist?
    Adams Dubrovna: So you pick things to end then?
    Adams Dubrovna: What happens at a Buddhist festival?
    Storm Nordwind: It was specifically Buddhist Quilty. On the 10th and 25th of every month we celebrate Lama CHopa at our centre
    Quilty Bookmite: In our case it's mainly a ceremony and a talk.
    Quilty Bookmite: Ah. I see.
    Storm Nordwind: (Lama Chopa is an offering to our Spiritual Guide. Takes around 2 hours.)
    Quilty Bookmite: I see. And you use the western calendar?
    Storm Nordwind: Yes. In our movement we have elected to do so and keep things simple - which I appreciate!
    Quilty Bookmite: Yes, we do similar things in our tradition.
    Storm Nordwind: And of course in Scotland, it's a 2 day public holiday anyway :)
    Quilty Bookmite: It is in England too. New year is one day though.
    Storm Nordwind: I meant New Year
    Quilty Bookmite: :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: Is the first night still celebrated?
    Storm Nordwind: Sure
    Storm Nordwind: The Scots know how to celebrate
    Quilty Bookmite: Well, they do at New Year. :-)
    Storm Nordwind: And they have some of the finest beverages in the world with which to do so
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Quilty Bookmite: That is true.
    Quilty Bookmite: Are you going first footing Storm?
    Storm Nordwind: Actually no. I am an exile here in Glasgow. My friends are 400+ miles away.
    Quilty Bookmite: Are you not celebrating then?
    Storm Nordwind: I shall speak to my fiancee on the phone. That is the best celebration for me.
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Storm Nordwind: She flies on New Year's Day for her last visit here
    Quilty Bookmite: Of course. I understand that one. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: What do Americans do at New Year?
    Adams Dubrovna: Great Storm :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Americans drink and party and make lots of noise at midnight
    Quilty Bookmite: Pretty much the same as here then. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: pretend they are happy but they actually are depressed
    Quilty Bookmite: Also the same as here. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: I like Storm's ritual
    Adams Dubrovna: put an end to things
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Quilty Bookmite: By 3 a.m. they'll be telling everyone how depressed they are.
    Quilty Bookmite: I suspect a lot of people will be happy to see the back of this year.
    Quilty Bookmite: Personally I think it wasn't so bad.
    Adams Dubrovna: With PaB it has been a great year for me
    Storm Nordwind nods
    Quilty Bookmite: If your fiance is making her last trip, does that mean you are going out very soon Storm?
    Quilty Bookmite: Certainly it has been a great PaB year.
    Storm Nordwind: Yes it does Quilty. My medical is on Monday. I now have all the approval and the docs. I just need the interview at the embassy. And that could be in January.
    Adams Dubrovna looking forward to waving the plane as it flies overhead
    Quilty Bookmite: Good luck Storm. I'll have my fingers crossed for you.
    Adams Dubrovna: waving at
    Storm Nordwind: Thank you so much :)
    Quilty Bookmite: And will be sending Metta if it helps.
    Storm Nordwind hums Gerry Rafferty's 'Home and Dry'
    Storm Nordwind: Thank you Quilty :)
    Quilty Bookmite: :-)
    Adams Dubrovna would send Metta of he knew what is was
    Quilty Bookmite: The only Gerry Rafferty I know is Baker Street.
    Storm Nordwind: hehehehe!
    Storm Nordwind: Same album Quilty
    Quilty Bookmite: Metta is sort of Buddhist good wishes.
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Storm Nordwind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett%C4%81
    Quilty Bookmite: Thanks Storm. Was just reading that. :-)
    Storm Nordwind: It gets kind of complicated, but the introduction says most of what non-Buddhists need to know about it
    Quilty Bookmite: I always think I know what these Buddhist terms mean and am always surprised by what they actually mean. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: Hmmm. What a nice idea!
    Storm Nordwind: That's perhaps because so many people delight in arguing about words instead of doing what they mean.
    Quilty Bookmite: Yes, it is. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: Indeed Storm.
    Quilty Bookmite: And most of the meaning gets lost in translation anyway.
    Adams Dubrovna has lots of trouble with Budhist words but likes Buddhist ideas
    Quilty Bookmite: I think that's the same for all of us Adams. :-)
    Storm Nordwind: There are many people who bandy about what I call 'Buddhilectualisms'!
    Adams Dubrovna: yes
    Quilty Bookmite: Nice word. I will probably use it. :-)
    Storm Nordwind: Please be my guest! :)
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Quilty Bookmite: Thank you. I'll add a footnote crediting you. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: Not easy to do in casual conversation.
    Storm Nordwind smiles modestly
    Storm Nordwind: hehe!
    Adams Dubrovna: You could write it on your shirt :)
    Quilty Bookmite: Indeed. :-) I'll need to think of a suitably witty phrase to incorporate it into.
    Storm Nordwind: I could: "Buddhilectualisms NOT spoken here!"
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Quilty Bookmite: :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: It's very easy to get bogged down in such things when talking about Buddhism.
    Quilty Bookmite: And forget that it's about feeling much more than about thinking.
    Storm Nordwind: I think that's why I like the description of 'practice' for Buddhism, often used instead of 'religion'
    Quilty Bookmite: Fair enough. It's a label of convenience. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: I am using the word "tradition" in the exhibit for all, does that sound reasonable?
    Storm Nordwind: I think so. It sounds OK to me
    Quilty Bookmite: It's often used, so I don;t see the problem.
    Adams Dubrovna: good, thanks :)
    Quilty Bookmite: Wikipedia says: "Buddhism is a family of beliefs and practices considered by most to be a religion."
    Quilty Bookmite: So I guess it's a matter of opinion.
    Storm Nordwind: Even neo-pagan religions use the word tradition for things barely 60 years old
    Adams Dubrovna: yes, maybe a matter fo words
    Quilty Bookmite: *chuckles*
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Quilty Bookmite: It's funny how quickly something becomes a tradition.
    Adams Dubrovna: Like family traditions :)
    Storm Nordwind: Do you think we have homegrown any PaB traditions?
    Quilty Bookmite: British parliament is full of traditions which are not nearly as old as people think they are.
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Storm Nordwind: True Quilty
    Quilty Bookmite: Yes, saying hello to anyone who arrives.
    Quilty Bookmite: And Onigokko. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna was graviating toward that Quilty
    Storm Nordwind is laughing out loud at Quilty's remark!
    Adams Dubrovna: gravitating
    Storm Nordwind: gravy tasting?
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Quilty Bookmite: Vegetarian gravy I hope. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: Is that what it means?
    Adams Dubrovna: Oh
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: haha
    Quilty Bookmite: graviating sounds like it should mean something.
    Storm Nordwind: It does, yes
    Storm Nordwind: Rather like the words in "The Meaning of Liff"
    Quilty Bookmite: A greta book. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: I mean _great_
    Quilty Bookmite: Apparently graviation has something to do with gravity. :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: Hmmm. Nothing with saying hello to everyone then
    Adams Dubrovna: heavy!
    Quilty Bookmite: :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: I don't want to get siucked into that one.
    Adams Dubrovna: good idea
    Quilty Bookmite: or _sucked_
    Quilty Bookmite: It's terrible when a joke is spoiled by mistyping the key word.
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Quilty Bookmite: I'm just wondering if I am going to get woken up at midnight by fireworks.
    Quilty Bookmite: There were a few going off here earlier.
    Adams Dubrovna: I am fortunate. It stays pretty quiet where I am
    Quilty Bookmite: It's not too bad here. Used to be terrible where I lived before.
    Adams Dubrovna: Yes, I have lived in some of those
    Quilty Bookmite: There was a certain time of year when there were fireworks going off every night for about a month.
    Adams Dubrovna: I am being called in RL. Wow Quilty! Bye and good wished Quilty
    Quilty Bookmite: Have a good new year Adams.
    Adams Dubrovna: You too and I hope you'll let us know when you have some time :)
    Quilty Bookmite: Bye. And I'm sure I'll see you online some time soon.
    Adams Dubrovna: Great. Storm seems to be away. Bye :)
    Storm Nordwind: Bye Adams!
    Quilty Bookmite: RL distractions Storm?
    Storm Nordwind: Just check your email before you go to bed! ;)
    Quilty Bookmite: Just got it. Thanks very much. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: You have a good eye for a photo. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: And I never noticed the "on air" signs before.
    Storm Nordwind: They are new yesterday
    Storm Nordwind: And thank you!
    Quilty Bookmite: Ah. :-) Good idea.
    Storm Nordwind: To save all the endless warnings and permissions etc
    Quilty Bookmite: I wonder if it puts people off a little - not necessarily a bad thing.
    Storm Nordwind: Perhaps. A front-line filter
    Quilty Bookmite: Yes. :-)
    Quilty Bookmite: It's time for me to head off to bed. It's been a pleasure as always.
    Storm Nordwind: Likewise my friend
    Quilty Bookmite: And I'm sure I will be online intermittently.
    Storm Nordwind: Best of luck to you and yours
    Quilty Bookmite: And you too. I hope you enjoy the adventures the coming year will bring.
    Storm Nordwind: Oh I'm sure I will
    Storm Nordwind: Namaste
    Quilty Bookmite: Namaste
    Quilty Bookmite: Bye
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