2009.01.14 19:00 - a bit of Love and Being

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     stevenaia Michinag was Guardian on call tonight.  The comments are stevenaia's.

     I sat for the first 1/4 hour alone until Corvuscorva Nightfire and Stargate Tone joined me. let the greetings begin

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Corvi
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you for joining me
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hiya, Steve.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Aww...of course.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: It just took me a minute to figure out it was 10pm.
    stevenaia Michinaga: glad you remembered, you are the first person here tonight other than me, of course
    stevenaia Michinaga: another friend will join us
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Stargate
    stevenaia Michinaga: always happy yo see you
    stevenaia Michinaga: to
    Stargate Tone: happy to see you too *
    Stargate Tone: hello Corvuscorva
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hiya, Stargate
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: what a sparkly outfit!
    Stargate Tone: U like it ?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: It's lovely.
    stevenaia Michinaga: you look very bright and cheerful
    Stargate Tone: oh thank you :)*
    Stargate Tone: it's x-mas present from my partner Ed
    Stargate Tone: ...well...we don't have them lands anymore, but still he's not been willing to cut the relate....
    Stargate Tone: but...well...that may be a long story; anyway; he wants me to look beautiful :)***
    Stargate Tone: and...ah...as it took more than 2 years for me to be in SL before somebody noticed to tell me how to get rid of my ugly neck :)***
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ugly neck?
    Stargate Tone: cuz my closest friends never cared how my shape is :)**
    Stargate Tone: yea; I had so huge thick neck that many jewelries and dresses didn't look nice....
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: oh! I see...
    Stargate Tone: ah...U see; I'm no pc person at all....
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods. you aren't a computer person?
    Stargate Tone: but was born to SL knowing that I have missions
    Stargate Tone: not at all
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Stargate Tone: need help to all, but to use the keyboard, and mostly only letters of it :)***

    I mentioned some recent PaB chat logs I read regarding Love and my sense of the relationship between Love and Being.  

     Rowan Masala arrives

    stevenaia Michinaga: Corvi and Stargate, I have been reading some interesting things said by another member, Susi, who speaks of "love". I two believe in the very close relationship between "Love" and "Being", have you seen them Corvi?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I did read that.
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: When we met in Princeton I also spoke of this 
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: the relationship between love and being?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Rowan!
    Stargate Tone: Hi Rowan
    Rowan Masala: Hi Corvi, Stargate
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Rowan
    stevenaia Michinaga: nice to see you here, it has been a while
    Stargate Tone: ah...so you also have wanted to speak of love
    Stargate Tone: ...not so usual to man...I mean in public :)***
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, to be it is a pathway to understanding being
    stevenaia Michinaga: to me....
    Stargate Tone: ...ah...
    Stargate Tone: hm...you mean all kind of beings ?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nodsnods...that seems to me a theory I can really buy into, Steve.
    Stargate Tone: or specially human kind beings ?
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: at least..that it might be a path I can travel that direction.
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, Being as in what we seek to understand here, Stargate
    Stargate Tone: ah...might be too much to my brain :)***
    stevenaia Michinaga: love is something you can wrap yourself around with understanding and comfort
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Love is something I can BE.
    stevenaia Michinaga: that is what we seek to do with Being
    Corvuscorva Nightfire nods.
    Stargate Tone: ...wrap...donno the word...can U say it other way ?
    Stargate Tone: oh...
    stevenaia Michinaga: wrap, hug..understand warmly
    Stargate Tone: ok...now I understand what Ur talking about
    stevenaia Michinaga: :)
    Stargate Tone: ty for that explanation too
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I mean that it's something one can...sink into...sort of...be/do....
    Rowan Masala: I can see you being love, Corvi
    Stargate Tone: ah; that yes...but to be love....
    stevenaia Michinaga: love is as infinite and strong yet untouchable
    Stargate Tone: agree 130 %
    stevenaia Michinaga: untouchable and difficult to explain if you never felt it
    Stargate Tone: ..and even if you feel it....
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: I have to go..rl...but I'm leaving my avatar here so I can "listen"...
    Stargate Tone: aha...
    Rowan Masala: take care, Corvi
    stevenaia Michinaga: i will post the log if you miss it, bye corvie
    Stargate Tone: was nice to meet you Corv
    Stargate Tone: have nice time
    stevenaia Michinaga: somewhere on the www.Kira.org website genesis wrote a nice recollection of the Princeton meeting and my thoughts  http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Events/PaB_Fest_2008.10.18_@_IAS_by_Genesis_Zhangsun
    Stargate Tone: **
    Stargate Tone: ...donno about that org....
    stevenaia Michinaga: it is the organization that PaB is part of
    Stargate Tone: aha
    Stargate Tone: well...donno so much about PaB either....but some
    stevenaia Michinaga: Pema, I believe, is one of its founders
    Stargate Tone: have visited here few times as some friend has invited me to come....
    Stargate Tone: well; that I've thought, as I've met him few times
    stevenaia Michinaga: Play as Bring (PaB) is the name of this group here
    Stargate Tone: as we met with him for the land things; my friend was to sell land to Pema and we met so
    Stargate Tone: yea; a little I know ...
    stevenaia Michinaga: and we post the log of every meeting on the website
    Stargate Tone: hm...my 'knowing' of PaB would be something like this;
    stevenaia Michinaga: http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs
    Stargate Tone: that it's meant to connect science and spirituality....
    Stargate Tone: am I very wrong ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, I think that is very close
    Stargate Tone: **
    stevenaia Michinaga: an possibly a very clear explanation

    The conversation changed to Stargate's concern about her english communications as Finnish is fist language.

    Stargate Tone: so,,,it may by that my mind can 'deal' with such thought....
    Stargate Tone: ah...well...then I'm not so stupid....
    stevenaia Michinaga: laughs, I don;t think I;ve seen that word used here by anyone until now, there is now stupid here
    Stargate Tone: U see; my lag in english is so huge, what comes to the fancy words...as I can only very common...daily speech
    stevenaia Michinaga: is no....
    Stargate Tone: oh...
    Stargate Tone: hm...well...it's been 'my job' to do much such that other ppl dont :)***
    stevenaia Michinaga: sometimes you are very clear, other times it is difficult to understand you
    Stargate Tone: maybe it was my place to fill something that was missing :)***
    Rowan Masala: welcome back, Corvi
    stevenaia Michinaga: i think that;s everybody's place to do that
    Stargate Tone: oh dear friend; that's much also cuz of my lag in english...but not always
    Stargate Tone: wcb Corvi
    stevenaia Michinaga: are you back or did the cat move the mouse?
    Stargate Tone: this my friend Aladuns, who lives on my lands on Carlisle once said this;

    (my real life partner accidently moved the mouse while I was away...she's even more punny than Threedee..so when Steve suggested that a cat might have moved the mouse...she couldn't resist-Corvi)

    Corvuscorva Nightfire: cat
    Stargate Tone: "One needs to learn your language" :)***
    stevenaia Michinaga: ...smiles
    stevenaia Michinaga: cat types better than me
    Stargate Tone: U see; even if I speak finnish, it's not always easy to 'read' me....but after a while...or if read few times *
    Stargate Tone: not so long ago that my friends laughed with me for one told me about something concerning my one former incarnation
    Stargate Tone: that I still have the habit to tell certain kind of stories....
    Stargate Tone: that ppl can read and read and not understand...until they stop even to try...
    Rowan Masala: they recognized you from a former life from your storytelling?
    Stargate Tone: and then they realize, that the answer was all the time in front to there eyes...
    Stargate Tone: yes
    Stargate Tone: well...few have done that 'hearing' that I still 'speak the same way¨'....
    Stargate Tone: so...mostly it is that I'm taken too 'difficult'.....and...well...ppl have so much habit to believe that I say something else....
    Stargate Tone: that I'd have some 'back thoughts' or so, no matter I say something very simply...and sure mean that too
    Stargate Tone: hm...well; I use to tell ppl that we finnish dont even know how to speak small talk...
    stevenaia Michinaga: some of us do not either
    Stargate Tone: sure that's what comes to us older ppl; them younger are much better with that
    Stargate Tone: ah...me specially...maybe even too straight sometimes....
    Stargate Tone: well; that's also the most big reason why we finnish cannot sell anything :)***
    Stargate Tone: and have stayed as a poor country (means; expensive one)
    Stargate Tone: but Nokia has changed much
    Stargate Tone: but..ah...now I'm talking like a talk machine :)*
    stevenaia Michinaga: ...smile
    stevenaia Michinaga: happy to listen, although not always clear
    Stargate Tone: you pls ask anything, and I'll answer anything :)***
    Stargate Tone: meaning also that if I say something that you dont understand; that my also be typo or even completely wrong word
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am not sure I have a questions
    Stargate Tone: like I once said in Egypt this; "I'm no good hostage"
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, I often type badly
    Stargate Tone: and all of the people laughed....and I didn't even know that I had used the wrong word
    Stargate Tone: well; that was spoken words
    stevenaia Michinaga: in english?
    Stargate Tone: but all sure understood, that I meant to say this; "I'm no good hostess"
    stevenaia Michinaga: or Finish
    stevenaia Michinaga: hahaha
    Stargate Tone: but all thought that the first sentence was very true too
    stevenaia Michinaga: now I understand the confusion
    Stargate Tone: so nobody wanted to correct me :)***
    Stargate Tone: well...only I was confused at first; before I realized the words :)***
    Stargate Tone: then I also laughed *
    stevenaia Michinaga: I often think faster than I type and miss words and letters
    Stargate Tone: think it's same here
    Stargate Tone: but indeed; with friends it's easy to ask so many questions that things gets clear..
    Stargate Tone: but...yes; there we 'come back to love'....
    stevenaia Michinaga: do you have any thought on what "Love" is?
    stevenaia Michinaga: to you , or to all of us
    Stargate Tone: as I've spoken to ppl that as long as love do 'rule over', all is well...
    Stargate Tone: well; to me love is the 'first' element of life
    Stargate Tone: I'd also replace the word 'god' with the word 'love
    stevenaia Michinaga: It seem strange that is is not a foundation element, like wind, air, fire, earth
    Rowan Masala: I'm afraid I must be off to bed. Goodnight, all
    Stargate Tone: but...well...human life is so often such, that it hides love not to be seen or felt....oh so sadly often...
    Stargate Tone: oh Love, that is
    stevenaia Michinaga: I would think "Love" is very old
    Stargate Tone: Love is the energy that is everywhere....
    stevenaia Michinaga: oh, I didn;t see Rowan leave
    Stargate Tone: maybe she crashed
    stevenaia Michinaga: no, she is off for the night
    Stargate Tone: hm...at least she left quickly; not saying anything
    Stargate Tone: ah

    A bit more on Love...

    Stargate Tone: oh yes Love; to me Love also is more than old...I'de say that the infinity is more love than anything else...even it sure is much else too
    Stargate Tone: by infinity I mean existence, from which all do get brith from...
    stevenaia Michinaga: I see what you say about love and god, but there is also love of people, which is not the same as god
    Stargate Tone: birth
    Stargate Tone: oh but Love; to me that is....
    Stargate Tone: just like the bible says, that god is everywhere....
    Stargate Tone: ...love is everywhere....it's in each person....
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes, and Being is everywhere, and perhaps everything, and love is everywhere
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Stargate Tone: it's just that many other 'things' do change love to turn to be something else but love....
    Stargate Tone: mixing it with other kind of needs...sure; natural needs to human being...but...

    Unfortunately the hour has passed and I had to leave...

    stevenaia Michinaga: Unfortunately I must go back to a project I am working on for a meeting tomorrow, a chapel design,
    stevenaia Michinaga: thank you for joining us
    Stargate Tone: ah; ur an architeckt ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: yes
    Stargate Tone: thank you Love for inviting me :)***
    stevenaia Michinaga: see you soon
    Stargate Tone: so go and enjoy your awsome work :)***
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