2009.02.26 13:00 - Wol's brightly coloured pills

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    The guardian for this session was Storm Nordwind. The comments are Storm's.

    A snuffly Wol was already in the pavilion when I arrived on the hour, and already in conversation with an occasional visitor.

    Wol Euler: hello storm
    Putty Broome: hi storm
    Storm Nordwind: Hi guys
    Putty Broome: so what did you think of convo you read
    Putty Broome: about avalon and all that
    Wol Euler blushes. to be honest, I don't remember that it dealt with Avalon, I just remembered your name and did a search to find which session it was
    Putty Broome: oh
    Wol Euler blames it on the meds and too little sleep
    Putty Broome: lol
    Wol Euler: sorry :)
    Putty Broome: well maybe i didnt talk about avalon i cant remember
    Wol Euler: if you were to talk about it, what would you have said? :)
    Putty Broome: buddhists call it nibanna or nirvanna
    Wol Euler: oh, interesting.
    Putty Broome: oh not sure i usually get feelings let me know how much to share or not

    Being polite, I tried to get my bearings in the conversation that was already happening. Meanwhile other people started to arrive.

    Storm Nordwind: We are talking about Avalon?
    Putty Broome: christians call it new jerusalem its in almost everymyth and relegion
    Putty Broome: the mist island in the sky
    Putty Broome: its a real place in other dimension though ive been
    Storm Nordwind: I thought Avalon was just England. And many people like to think of Glastonbury as being there! :)
    Putty Broome: no its just higher memension city
    Putty Broome: demension
    Storm Nordwind: a real place?
    Putty Broome: yes
    Storm Nordwind: been there?
    Putty Broome: yes in soul travel
    Storm Nordwind: And what did you learn from your travel there?
    Wol Euler apologises and wanders off in search of Kleenex
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Fefonz
    Putty Broome: not a lot but ive been working for it for about a year now
    Fefonz Quan: Hey Storm, Wol, Putty
    Putty Broome: it wants to come down and join earth
    Putty Broome: hi quan
    Storm Nordwind: It is sentient?
    Putty Broome: its already lowered itself a lot but we have to raise owr energy more
    Fefonz Quan: Hi Scath :)
    Putty Broome: it wants to help earth have smooth transition to 5th demension and feels it can help
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Fefonz, Wol, Storm:)
    Putty Broome: hi scat lol
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Putty:)
    Storm Nordwind: So how can knowledge of this help the average person? Or do people not really need to know?
    Putty Broome: it will be the energy from it that will help but whe it comes it will be known
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Scáth
    Storm Nordwind: Then I guess we'll welcome it when it arrives :)
    Fefonz Quan: wb ;)
    Wol Euler: back
    Putty Broome: it will be on west coast lol so you dont get it confused with other islands in the sky comming down
    Scathach Rhiadra: wb:)
    Wol Euler: hello scath, fefonz
    Storm Nordwind: I wonder if I may have more rewarding things to do than watch islands in the sky...
    Fefonz Quan: a hot cup of tea i suggest
    Storm Nordwind: This is not to say that it would not benefit others of course
    Storm Nordwind: mmm tea
    Wol Euler rases her cup in salute.
    Putty Broome: I dont know its a pretty amaising place to visit
    Putty Broome: got a speacial arir
    Putty Broome: air
    Storm Nordwind nods

    I wanted to try and bring the topic closer to Play as Being and the experimental ways of knowing that are Kira initiatives.

    Storm Nordwind: It is nice to travel to fun places
    Storm Nordwind: But where is the fun experienced I wonder?
    Putty Broome: yes i dont usually like to astral travel but this place was enjoyable and peaceful no violence there
    Fefonz Quan: sounds like Princeton ;-)
    Wol Euler: if all perception is internal/mental ... sorry, I'm really dim today. Can't formulate it. Bah.
    Storm Nordwind: !
    Storm Nordwind: hehe!
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Wol Euler lols and dribbles slightly down her chin
    Putty Broome: its okay
    Storm Nordwind: Poor Wol
    Putty Broome: lol
    Fefonz Quan: lol
    Wol Euler: :(
    Storm Nordwind puts a sympathetic arm around his friend Wol
    Fefonz Quan: don't choke on us Wol :)
    Wol Euler sigh and sniffles and reaches for another Kleenex
    Storm Nordwind: So - what i was getting at (and perhaps what Wol was about to say) - is...
    Storm Nordwind: if your experience of the place is within you, what is to stop you experiencing it without going anywhere?
    Wol Euler: right :)
    Storm Nordwind: When we feel cold we experience it inside ourselves, not outside
    Storm Nordwind: When we see beauty we experience it inside ourselves, not outside
    Storm Nordwind: So the potentiality for that experience is already there
    Fefonz Quan: you should try Princeton too, where the cold can be outside as well :)
    Storm Nordwind: hehe!
    Wol Euler: :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Storm Nordwind: But perhaps you can experience that beauty without travelling at all. Do you think that is possible?
    Putty Broome: i dont know but have tried and just has not worked yet to do that seems i only get to go when it wants me there it is alittle bogas
    Putty Broome: not sure who the wizard of oz is behind it all
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Storm Nordwind: Perhaps you will find it is you, yourself, behind it! ;)
    Wol Euler nods. After all, what did the wizard give to them? Nothing but the eyes to see what they already had.
    Storm Nordwind: Yes indeed
    Putty Broome: that would be a trip though island has told me arthur and all those from that myth are very real
    Putty Broome: and alive still
    Fefonz Quan: well, mythology has no need for time anyway
    Storm Nordwind: Sure. I see these things too. But they are not the source of peace and happiness. They are finite and limited like all gods are finite and limited. They are not Being.
    Putty Broome: that they are actually reincarnated on earth to
    Putty Broome: but thats abit trippy
    Storm Nordwind: I am happy that, through the techniques we practise in Play as Being, that I can tap into something more fundamental
    Storm Nordwind: Something that is not transient
    Storm Nordwind: Something that is always there
    Storm Nordwind: Because that is all there is
    Storm Nordwind is getting carried away and needs Wol's meds
    Putty Broome: not sure think everything has seasons and times and flows even spirit
    Wol Euler grins and holds out a handful of brightly coloured pills
    Storm Nordwind: mmmm thank you Wol
    Storm Nordwind grabs the water
    Storm Nordwind: ptooey
    Storm Nordwind: ick
    Wol Euler giggles
    Storm Nordwind: .
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Wol Euler: that's why you need the tea after :-/
    Storm Nordwind: more MSG on them please
    Putty Broome: lol

    So, fortified by medication, I attempted to make further sense of the conversation or see whether it was all the product of those brightly coloured pills. I enquired about the comment on seasons. It had echos of Daoism.

    Storm Nordwind: Tell me Putty, why you think spirit has seasons.
    Wol Euler: damn, I am really missing things today. (reads back)
    Fefonz Quan: some spirits definitely does
    Fefonz Quan: :)
    Putty Broome: just feels that way we are a shodow of greater things makes sense the greater is similar to its child
    Storm Nordwind places a healing light around Wol
    Putty Broome: anywere in nater something doese not move it lacks life so it seems its lifes way to dance
    Wol Euler smiles and nods a "thank you"
    Storm Nordwind: It is a seductive thought Putty, and many millions of people have recognised that
    Storm Nordwind: But others have tried to look further and see if there is not something that "is" without change. They too believe they have been successful!
    Storm Nordwind: Something that is yet alive because it is life itself
    Putty Broome: yeah god seems to place nuts everywhere
    Putty Broome: lol
    Storm Nordwind: nuts are for eating
    Putty Broome: yes seems thats the purpose just food
    Putty Broome: while we still need it
    Wol Euler: we are all food for worms, if it comes to that.
    Storm Nordwind: We are already the worms
    Fefonz Quan: are we storm?
    Putty Broome: well then i mist say god makes some sexy female worms did good job
    Putty Broome: they even look great out of dirt
    Storm Nordwind: Well what is a worm Fefonz?
    Fefonz Quan: i don't know storm, try to guess what you mean. you didn't worm me in advance :)
    Storm Nordwind groans
    Storm Nordwind: oh!!!!
    Storm Nordwind: .
    Storm Nordwind: That's almost punny
    Fefonz Quan: (hope i didn't sound punny, whtever punny means)
    Storm Nordwind: fun with a pun
    Fefonz Quan: ok
    Putty Broome: i hear that will make you g blind be careful with that
    Putty Broome: lol
    Storm Nordwind: So what I meant was... it is possible (say some) to experience the bliss of there being no separation from anything or anyone. In that case there would be no barriers between what you conventionally call you and what you conventionally call a worm.
    Putty Broome: would love to work with someone to make meditation series with that theme storm
    Wol Euler: hello solo
    Fefonz Quan: yes, but in a sense what would disappear is what you conventionally call you
    Storm Nordwind: That's what we're doing here - potentially at least, Putty
    Putty Broome: visualising the onness in very creative prosess
    Wol Euler: like assimilating into the Borg.
    Storm Nordwind: yes Fefonz
    Putty Broome: i mean like in your mind visualising you are different animals and people even forses of nature
    Fefonz Quan: you are a trekki, Wol
    Fefonz Quan: :)
    Storm Nordwind: But You still would exist
    Wol Euler: nah, just picked that up somewhere.

    Solo arrived, looking perhaps as though he'd been dragged through a hedge backwards!

    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Solo:)
    Putty Broome: and make it very real and detailed to help people fell it deep in there soul
    Fefonz Quan: Hey Solo :)
    Storm Nordwind: Hi Solo
    Wol Euler: Solo, is this casual Thursday? :-)
    Storm Nordwind wonders if Solo had a bad night
    Fefonz Quan: or a good night :)
    Storm Nordwind: hehe!
    Wol Euler: pity you weren't at the 1pm yesterday, we talked about why/how we chose our avs and what their appearance means to us
    Solobill Laville smiles at everyone around the circle (work stuff in and out, sorry)
    Storm Nordwind: Yes... kind of non-stop busy the last three days
    Putty Broome: well i wanted to be nude on here but to many people got very upset was not worth it
    Storm Nordwind: I will have to read the chat log Wol
    Storm Nordwind: Very wise Putty.
    Fefonz Quan: me too, droped in to what seemed a very fun session :)
    Fefonz Quan: (to storm)
    Putty Broome: but i do think its crazy we are animals clothes are just another way to make us feel disconnected to nature
    Storm Nordwind: I've never found that personally Putty
    Fefonz Quan: well, try walking out in the snow Putty
    Putty Broome: i have you actually climatize if you do it as habit
    Storm Nordwind: If clothes make you feel separate, then i suggest you learn to feel in other ways
    Storm Nordwind smiles
    Storm Nordwind gives Wol a last blast of healing
    Fefonz Quan: with now cloth Putty?
    Putty Broome: yes its very freeing practice
    Wol Euler is warmed and grateful
    Putty Broome: to be in like the woods or alone on beach but thats difficult to experience
    Putty Broome: but makes you feel so connected to creation
    Fefonz Quan: after 2 minutes you stop feeling anything at that temperature
    Putty Broome: yeah i did not do it long but was fun
    Storm Nordwind: It's nice. But impractical for me and many others. That's why I use meditative practices instead and they achieve the same thing at all times
    Putty Broome: its only impractical cause people have divoped a happit of the oppasite
    Wol Euler has done it in the course of a sauna session. It was , um, invigorating.
    Fefonz Quan too
    Storm Nordwind: If you lived in Scotland I suspect you would find it impractical too! :)
    Putty Broome: yes maybe
    Storm Nordwind would shiver
    Putty Broome: hey then that would help all men feel egual lol
    Storm Nordwind: No.
    Fefonz Quan: the opposite Putty
    Storm Nordwind: People will always find ways to be separate if they choose
    Putty Broome: im teasing cause cold makes men all abit smaller
    Putty Broome: like it would make them feel equalk that way
    Putty Broome: just a joke
    Fefonz Quan imagine a small naked dwarf stumbling slowly
    Fefonz Quan: :)
    Solobill Laville: Sorry folks, need to reboot, brb
    Putty Broome: lol thanks for the visual lol no
    Wol Euler: hb solo
    Storm Nordwind: k Solo good luck
    Fefonz Quan: tc Solo
    Putty Broome: i need to be flying on to take care all
    Storm Nordwind: Bye for now
    Putty Broome: nice meeting you all
    Fefonz Quan: Bye Putty
    Scathach Rhiadra: bye Putty
    Storm Nordwind: Keep to the maps :)
    Wol Euler: bye putty, take care
    Putty Broome: very interesting statment i think we have mysterious munk
    Putty Broome: well be well
    Scathach Rhiadra: brb
    Storm Nordwind: you too

    With our visitor gone, Wol commented on the conversation so far. I noticed I had only been partially successful in turning it to PaB related matters. Perhaps the effect of the brightly coloured pills had been more widespread than I'd thought.

    Wol Euler: well, that was quite unusual.
    Storm Nordwind: In what way Wol? ;)
    Wol Euler: the content.
    Fefonz Quan: would i understand more of it if i didn't miss the first 5 minutes?
    Wol Euler: mmmm, possibly not :)
    Wol Euler: maybe I am misjudging, being unfair.
    Storm Nordwind falls over. Surely not Wol!
    Wol Euler: oh it does happen :-/
    Fefonz Quan: fairness is not a demand here, or is it?
    Scathach Rhiadra: back
    Storm Nordwind: welcome back
    Wol Euler: wb scath
    Wol Euler: well, yes actually I think it is.
    Storm Nordwind: Courtesy is always appreciated. We judge ourselves in the end I suspect, and are our own arbiters
    Fefonz Quan: somehow i don't like this word, but it may sound better in English
    Wol Euler: perhaps not a formal one, but I think it is implied in the idea of feeling compassion for all creation.
    Storm Nordwind nods to Wol
    Fefonz Quan seconds compassion, fairness sound too sterile to me
    Wol Euler: sorry, had another brain fart and lost the thread.
    Storm Nordwind: Fairness has a lot of baggage, and more so justice
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    Fefonz Quan: :)
    Fefonz Quan: yes Storm

    Wol reminded us that many of us had an imminent appointment at the Kira Cafe.

    Wol Euler: I'd wanted to attend Stim's talk this afternoon but frankly I think it would be wasted on me. I'll have to read it later on
    Storm Nordwind had forgotten
    Storm Nordwind: Oh!
    Storm Nordwind: 5 minutes
    Wol Euler: mmhmm
    Storm Nordwind ducks head in the pool
    Storm Nordwind then ducks his own head in the pool
    Fefonz Quan: ducks? where?
    Storm Nordwind: How can you say that Fefonz with a wet head?
    Wol Euler thinks of red wine and orange sauce.
    Wol Euler: wb solo
    Fefonz Quan: glup, glup glupglup
    Storm Nordwind: Welcome back Solo
    Scathach Rhiadra: wb Solo
    Fefonz Quan: right Wol !
    Storm Nordwind: We are just thinking of hightailing to Stim's session at the Cafe
    Solobill Laville: Quite a crash here...let's go!!
    Fefonz Quan: in the middle of the duck dish?
    Storm Nordwind: I have a fan pointed at my machine against just such circumstances
    Solobill Laville: Here Scath...when I type "/sca" this happens
    Solobill Laville: Scátjh
    Wol Euler: ooooh.
    Fefonz Quan: /sca
    Solobill Laville: :))
    Storm Nordwind: An extra 'j'?
    Wol Euler: he's just showing off :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: ha, that was my typo, there is no j:)
    Wol Euler: ty
    Wol Euler: awwwww
    Solobill Laville: Oh!!! Thought that was Celtish or some such!! lol
    Storm Nordwind: OK guys. I vote let's go!
    Wol Euler: Scáth
    Solobill Laville: delete those Wol and Fef, i'll update it
    Fefonz Quan: /sca
    Fefonz Quan: hehe
    Wol Euler: already done mine :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, Scáth is
    Solobill Laville: ok, let's be off
    Storm Nordwind: Coming to the Cafe?
    Wol Euler: let's go!
    Fefonz Quan: yes, lets !
    Wol Euler: dunno how long i will stay, but I'll give it a try

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