2009.03.02 19:00 - Dogs dream, it seems

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Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pila :)

Pila Mulligan: how are you?

Eliza Madrigal: Rather well, you?

Pila Mulligan: fine, thanks

Eliza Madrigal: :) What did you cook today?

Pila Mulligan: re-warmed left over pizza :)

Eliza Madrigal: Hah

Eliza Madrigal: Sounds good

Pila Mulligan: it was still good, too

Eliza Madrigal: I was going to make the curry today...but then I got distracted..

Pila Mulligan: my next cooking thing will be some stir fry tofu and zuchini and rice -- got the ingredients but today was too busy for time to cook

Eliza Madrigal: :) It is wonderful to be able to love to cook....my interest goes in spurts...

Eliza Madrigal: sometimes weeks....

Pila Mulligan: but you do not suspend eating in between ...

Eliza Madrigal: Such a vital part of life, yes! Exactly.

Eliza Madrigal: I could eat a veggie burger every day

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Pila Mulligan: I like cooking and usuaully make enough to last for several days

Pila Mulligan: me too

Pila Mulligan: have you ever had a taro burger?

Eliza Madrigal: No...?

Pila Mulligan: taro is a starchy Hawaiian plant, it is best known for its being made into poi

Pila Mulligan: it is somewhat like a sweet potato

Pila Mulligan: in texture and appearance

Pila Mulligan: makes an excellent veggi burger

Pila Mulligan: with spinach as a binder

Eliza Madrigal: Hmmm love sweet potatoes...sounds great

Pila Mulligan: more substantial than a potato as food, too

Pila Mulligan: taro is

Eliza Madrigal: You inspire me. Now I see you and I start wanting to cook :)

Pila Mulligan: :) cool

Pila Mulligan: di some delicious spaghetti the other day

Eliza Madrigal: Ah?

Pila Mulligan: being a vegetarian my meals are generally variations of tofu, vegetable and rice or noodles

Pila Mulligan: spaghetti makes a nice break from asian stly enoodles

Eliza Madrigal: Sure...which means that seasoning becomes crucial

Pila Mulligan: yes, indeed

Pila Mulligan: luckily my neighbors are genuine food artists and share their homemade curry powder

Eliza Madrigal: That is lucky!

Pila Mulligan: it is so perfectly balanced as a flavoring

Eliza Madrigal: And lucky that they're friendly

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Pila Mulligan: :) yes

Pila Mulligan: do you use the Gardenburgers?

Eliza Madrigal: I have lovely neighbors also...just took them red potatoes tonight...had a large bag...too much

Eliza Madrigal: Yes

Pila Mulligan: nice

Pila Mulligan: Gardenburger is best

Pila Mulligan: their mushroom one is especially nice

Eliza Madrigal: I think so...like the strings of spinach ..more interesting than boca burgers

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: spinach is really a good binder for burgers

Eliza Madrigal: I put onions on everything too...so good that we're virtual :)

Pila Mulligan: have you ever made soyburgers?

Pila Mulligan: :) I lov eonions

Pila Mulligan: and garlic

Eliza Madrigal: No....my efforts at *making* have been less than brilliant so far...

Eliza Madrigal: Once in a while I stumble into a flow...

Eliza Madrigal: So all my food is mixed together... :)

Pila Mulligan: soybeans are interesting, but you need a pressure cooker or a lot of patience

Eliza Madrigal: It seems t come and go in seasons. One summer I worked on sushi...

Pila Mulligan: ahh, fun

Eliza Madrigal: did alright...was fun.

Pila Mulligan: did you use rice filler?

Eliza Madrigal: used vinegar?

Eliza Madrigal: So other than that I didn't add to the rice....

Eliza Madrigal: was a mess!

Eliza Madrigal: But still fun

Pila Mulligan: I do not do the fish, but like veggie sushi rolls

Eliza Madrigal: Yes...avocado are my favorite

Pila Mulligan: yuummm

Eliza Madrigal: California avocado though...

Eliza Madrigal: the other aren't very malleable

Pila Mulligan: are you in Califonria, may I ask?

Eliza Madrigal: No....Miami :)

Pila Mulligan: ahh, I am in Hawaii and we have avocados out the yingyang

Eliza Madrigal: Haha..probably the softer kind also

Pila Mulligan: yes, very excellent for sandwiches, sushi and guacamole

Pila Mulligan: with gardenburgers especially

Eliza Madrigal: I grew up in a house with five huge avocado trees...and hated them! I grew up though, and a light went on

Eliza Madrigal: Oh...yes!!

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: indeed

Pila Mulligan: do you have breadfruit?

Eliza Madrigal: I think it was that it was my job to go around with broken wheelbarrow and pick up the awful ones Hahah

Pila Mulligan: yes, they can be a real mess on the gorund

Eliza Madrigal: No....starfruit though. I'm not sure I've heard of breadfruit

Eliza Madrigal: Unless it is something I've called by another name

Pila Mulligan: breadfruit is actually like eggplant in its use -- quite an interesting tree

Pila Mulligan: it is called ulu here, but breadfruit in english

Pila Mulligan: eggplant is a favrotie of mine

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: baked breadfruit is quite a meal

Eliza Madrigal: Okay..getting my notes right. I know some people who will prob. be able to find it for me :)

Pila Mulligan: hi Bertrum

Eliza Madrigal: The other day I spent $5 on one dragonfruit, and thought "Well it is pretty, but no flavor"

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bertrum

Bertrum Quan: hello

Pila Mulligan: have a seat if you like

Eliza Madrigal: How are you?

Bertrum Quan: Fine thanks.

Pila Mulligan: here's a noteacrd in case you have not been here before

Bertrum Quan: Thank you. I have attended before.

Pila Mulligan: ok, thanks

Eliza Madrigal: We were talking about food. :)

Bertrum Quan: Great subject!

Pila Mulligan: yes, a yummy topic

Pila Mulligan: should we shift over to meditation -- as it seems we also are all meditators

Pila Mulligan: or more food :)

Eliza Madrigal: Either way. I love talking about meditation.

Pila Mulligan: what meditation style do you practice Eliza?

Eliza Madrigal: These days almost always zazen, but that is because I used to be a little scattered, am trying to stick with one thing a while :)

Pila Mulligan: so it osunds like you have tried several different types

Eliza Madrigal: Meta is too...and "gap" types of meditation.

Pila Mulligan: hmm, those are not fasmiliar to me :)

Pila Mulligan: I do a silent Chinese meditation, sometimes called Zen with details :)

Eliza Madrigal: Metta is simply extending love,,but I think people call it diff things

Eliza Madrigal: What is that like Pila?

Pila Mulligan: ah,, nice

Pila Mulligan: just sitting and breathing and contemplating

Pila Mulligan: anyhting or nothing :)

Pila Mulligan: the details are in the chi movemnet, Chinese methods are always big on chi

Pila Mulligan: would I guess corectly that you also do Zen Bertrum?

Bertrum Quan: Yes. I work at it.

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eliza Madrigal: Chi is rather unfamiliar to me as a practice...find it interesting though

Pila Mulligan: chi is ki, in Japanese -- breath energy -- prana in yoga

Pila Mulligan: it is an energy that circulates with breathing

Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes. I came into this through the yoga door ...so should be more familiar

Pila Mulligan: yoga pranayam is breathing exercise

Pila Mulligan: pranayama

Pila Mulligan: rememebr how exhaling is associated with bending forward in yoga?

Eliza Madrigal: Ah...holding and taking more in...and..expanding?

Eliza Madrigal: yes

Pila Mulligan: inhaling with straigthening up

Pila Mulligan: well, that is also an integral part of tai chi

Pila Mulligan: associating breathing with movement

Eliza Madrigal: Integrating every aspect...body, mind.. Nice

Pila Mulligan: the internal omvement of chi has corresponding associations with movements

Pila Mulligan: it is fun :)

Pila Mulligan: and, as Bertrum said, work :)

Bertrum Quan: How have you found the 9-second exercise?

Eliza Madrigal: :) I like that about meditation...that it is a Practice more than philosophy..

Pila Mulligan: well, I must confess, I don't do it :)

Pila Mulligan: i meditate every day for an hour already

Eliza Madrigal: :) I do it...in the morning, and while I'm here.

Pila Mulligan: I appreciate the tarrying moents that occur during the day, but I don;t do the 9 second practice

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Judy

Eliza Madrigal: You're more than welcome to join us...

Eliza Madrigal: I also consider what I do when writing meditation

Eliza Madrigal: I wait...and let what floats up...float up

Pila Mulligan: I agree, Eliza, there are many skills that are very close to meditation

Pila Mulligan: making shoes, cabinets, etc, writing, lot os thinigs

Eliza Madrigal: Cooking!

Pila Mulligan: cooking indeed :)

Bertrum Quan: I'd like to hear more about that, Eliza. HOw it works for you... writing and cooking...

Pila Mulligan: the Zen of Motorcycle Repair

Eliza Madrigal: Ah, not me so much with the cooking :)

Bertrum Quan: the wrtiting then...

Eliza Madrigal: Writing, painting. I think it is just a matter of allowing...trying to stay in the moment and hear

Eliza Madrigal: Go with something rather than making something happen

Eliza Madrigal: Be

Bertrum Quan: Is that how writing works for you?

Eliza Madrigal: Painting can be like that also...but not quite as often. yes.

Pila Mulligan: hi Finn

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Finn

Pila Mulligan: have a seat if you like

Finn Treves: thanks...

Bertrum Quan: Are you referring to stream of consciousness exercises in writing?

Eliza Madrigal: Yes and no. It is nearly the same thing as when in meditation..Sometimes hard to put to words

Eliza Madrigal: Comes out in patterns...feels like a real exhange :)

Bertrum Quan: Poetry too?

Eliza Madrigal: And I can't decide to do it or beg r plead hahha

Finn Treves: Ah, sure... I probably won't chat much today anyway (if at all...)

Pila Mulligan: ok, feel free to if you wish

Finn Treves: :)

Pila Mulligan: gave Finn a notecard an IM

Eliza Madrigal: I've seen that book Pila...motorcycle ...must be good

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Bertrum Quan: A classic.

Pila Mulligan: so you are finding your muse, ELiza, in writinng

Eliza Madrigal: Hm... Sometimes I'd say immediately yes

Pila Mulligan: and then there is the dreaded writrs block :)

Eliza Madrigal: Well...there's the scrutiny thing. I'm someone who needs to meditate A Lot

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eliza Madrigal: Have to love yourself and trust that what is

Eliza Madrigal: flowing ...

Eliza Madrigal: Or trust what is flowing I should say

Pila Mulligan: a chat here last week got into how words are often reflections of mental images

Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes.

Pila Mulligan: insights usually seem to arrive not yet formed in words

Eliza Madrigal: have to give permission to let them take shape

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eliza Madrigal: "get out of the way"

Eliza Madrigal: When do you all feel most connected?

Bertrum Quan: That may be central to creation in all of the arts

Eliza Madrigal: Hm, I'm sure.

Pila Mulligan: Eliza, you referred earlier to allowing, trying to stay in the moment and hear, going with something rather than making something happen

Pila Mulligan: that resonates withme in terms fo creativity and feeling connected

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Pila Mulligan: are you familiar with the Chinese concept called wu wei?

Eliza Madrigal: Not doing?

Pila Mulligan: kind of

Eliza Madrigal: I know there is more to it...

Pila Mulligan: not interfering with nature may be accurate also

Pila Mulligan: nature, and human nature

Pila Mulligan: 'go with the flow'

Eliza Madrigal: Is it a Taoist concept? It makes sense to me....and when I think of particle physics...that when you look to see what is hapening it stops

Pila Mulligan: yes, the not doing relates to the idea of using action to attain nonaction

Pila Mulligan: doing the best with the least impact on the natural flow of things

Eliza Madrigal: Oh...few traces

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: quantum stuff is so cool, I iwsh I understod it

Eliza Madrigal: hahha. me too. I love being "over my head" though

Pila Mulligan: but when you try to draw an analogy here with quantum physics there is uaully a serious sicnetist around to help set you staright

Eliza Madrigal: :) That's great too

Eliza Madrigal: I like the way you phrased wu wei. I'm writing it out just like that to think about more

Pila Mulligan: one of the neuro science people here last week said his measurements of the total acticity of would could be consious energy is like 100 times greater than what we are actually aware of

Pila Mulligan: more thn 100 actualy

Eliza Madrigal: Oh, interesting. What do you think implications of that could be?

Pila Mulligan: well, it is so akin to the expanded consciousness apsect of traditional contemplative practices

Pila Mulligan: as one part

Pila Mulligan: he also said he felt words and acts are settled in a preconsious manner before they actually come into the mind

Pila Mulligan: now there' an interesting take on free will :)

Eliza Madrigal: Ah..the choices. Absolutely!

Eliza Madrigal: Maybe just because 90% of capacity is darkened out to our itelligence...doesn't mean it isn't working :)

Pila Mulligan: :) yes, I think that was what he meant, and he called the preconsious phase the part just before we realize a thought

Eliza Madrigal: Science seems to be an "art" which is helped by that state of flow also....connection

Pila Mulligan: yes, but limited by the need to measure things

Pila Mulligan: the scrutiny :)

Eliza Madrigal: But something keeps them looking for what to measure

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: yes it does

Pila Mulligan: creativity no doubt

Bertrum Quan: That is it exactly

Bertrum Quan: and what we also might call intuition

Pila Mulligan: yes

Eliza Madrigal: Yes!

Eliza Madrigal: Another "allowing"

Pila Mulligan: wu wei invovles a deepening of these senses by appreciating and respecting the natural flow of things

Bertrum Quan: Being

Pila Mulligan: I'll tell you a story, it is really just about nature, but to some it would sound mystical

Pila Mulligan: I was driving up a rough mountain road with some frineds here in Hawaii about ten years ago

Pila Mulligan: I have a four wheel drive

Pila Mulligan: it was to a remote part of the mountain where the vistas are stunning

Pila Mulligan: but at the start we had some really rough bumps and grinds

Pila Mulligan: about a mile up the road these two birds started flying low, right in front of the car, then landing

Pila Mulligan: so I'd slow way down, and wait until they moved and the drove on

Pila Mulligan: they kept doig this quite a few times

Pila Mulligan: flying in low in front of the car and landing there

Pila Mulligan: it took a few minutes before the transmission fluid drained competely out from a crack in a gasket caused by one of the bumps

Pila Mulligan: so at that point when I tried to dreive on after thye left the car just sat ther

Pila Mulligan: being in Hawaii, we all gave the birds credit for trying to tell the humans they were dripping a trail of tranmission fluid

Pila Mulligan: :)

Eliza Madrigal: !

Eliza Madrigal: makes sense to me...don't think it is particularly mystical..

Eliza Madrigal: except in the loveliest way

Pila Mulligan: me either

Pila Mulligan: it is just ature

Pila Mulligan: nature*

Pila Mulligan: appreciating and respecting the natural flow of things

Eliza Madrigal: :) Being...all in this together

Pila Mulligan: yep

Eliza Madrigal: I have a question about animals..birds in particular because I was at a rehab place fr birds yesterday

Eliza Madrigal: And being.

Bertrum Quan: It's possible too that the birds were not communicating... but just part of that which is...

Pila Mulligan: yes, indeed

Pila Mulligan: Being :)

Eliza Madrigal: I wondered about their boredom....that I can imagine, or go away in some way

Bertrum Quan: We sometimes have a need to assign meaning...

Pila Mulligan: true

Eliza Madrigal: And that they cannot...imagine in the same way? How does time pass for those birds do you think? Sitting, years at a time...in a small environment

Pila Mulligan: you wonder about birds and animals being bored, Eliza?

Eliza Madrigal: I stood with them.

Pila Mulligan: they are always on their toes, it seems to me

Pila Mulligan: in nature

Pila Mulligan: oh, caged birds, yes

Eliza Madrigal: Yes...at one point one of the girls said to me that the golden eagle was the most dangerous

Eliza Madrigal: and I thought about all that bottled force and power

Pila Mulligan: must be a frustrtaed ealge

Eliza Madrigal: These weren't caged...but in a smallish environment

Pila Mulligan: do you ever dream of birds?

Eliza Madrigal: I don't know what my question is exactly...have just been thinking about them

Pila Mulligan: or animals?

Eliza Madrigal: Yes, dogs mostly :) You?

Pila Mulligan: because Maxine's dreaming workshop comes to ind here

Pila Mulligan: yes, me too

Pila Mulligan: I suspect birds and animals also have a dream analogy

Pila Mulligan: some type of imaginative activity

Bertrum Quan: Can you explain...

Pila Mulligan: well, what does a human prisoner do?

Pila Mulligan: daydreaming -- fanatsy -- or else TV

Pila Mulligan: my guess is that the birds in captivity may have some tpye of imaginative escpae

Pila Mulligan: a dream like or fantasy recollection or intution of what tey would be doing in nautre

Pila Mulligan: or in a larger environment

Bertrum Quan: What makes you think so?

Eliza Madrigal: I hope so. That's a great thought...sense memory

Pila Mulligan: well, for example, seeing a dog sleeping and its legs moving like it is runing, or doing some type of pyhdical omvement

Eliza Madrigal: that's true!! They get all worked up in sleep

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: so dogs dream, it seems

Pila Mulligan: maybe there is more imaginative activity among birds and animals

Eliza Madrigal: comforting

Bertrum Quan: It might be more on

Pila Mulligan: but the eagle si still pissed off it sound slike

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Eliza Madrigal: I didn't ask what his injury was, but my thinking was that if he was okay to attack there must be some way to get him out into the open more...

Pila Mulligan: Bertrum, wat were you saying about 'it might be more on ...'

Bertrum Quan: I was thinking about your deam analogy. And it's certainly possible. The movements may be more on anatomical level...

Bertrum Quan: dream analogy

Pila Mulligan: horses also seem to have a good intuitive capacity

Pila Mulligan: maybe that is somehow related to imagintion

Bertrum Quan: Being more in tune with nature... that might be another way to define the intution/imagination

Pila Mulligan: I think so

Pila Mulligan: being open to it

Eliza Madrigal: Next time I dream about an animal, I'll ask them :)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: i look forward to heainrg the answer

Bertrum Quan: Back in waking life, some animals demonstrate a kind of awareness that we might deem empathy

Eliza Madrigal: Yes, definitely. Empathy.

Pila Mulligan: yes, they do -- dogs especially seem to be sensitive that way

Bertrum Quan: Cats evidence that sense as well...

Pila Mulligan: cats impress me as more interested in being aloof :)

Pila Mulligan: but I am a dog person :)

Eliza Madrigal: I have a great cat, he fetches

Pila Mulligan: wow

Eliza Madrigal: Yeah...is quite funny. He's getting older and won't Perform much for me anymore though :)

Bertrum Quan: If you study cats, that are very intuitive (in the way we are discussing it).

Eliza Madrigal: He sits where I sit for meditation...often

Pila Mulligan: nice

Eliza Madrigal: never dream cats though....odd

Eliza Madrigal: :)

Bertrum Quan: There was a news story tnot too long ago about a cat living in a nursing home. He also knew which patients were going to die. And he comforted them.

Eliza Madrigal: MMM

Pila Mulligan: :)

Bertrum Quan: That cat was seen to be aloof (in general activity) but then he would comfort the dying patients..

Eliza Madrigal: My great grandfather's dog used to fetch a tennis ball, and after his stroke, he adapted to put it on his foot so he could pull it up to throw.

Pila Mulligan: cats and dogs are associated with a kind of spiritual awareness in some literature

Pila Mulligan: hi Steve

Bertrum Quan: hi Steve.

Eliza Madrigal: Always like the idea of the daemons in Dark Materials series

stevenaia Michinaga: evening

Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steven

Pila Mulligan: does a dog have Buddha nature?

Finn Treves: It's nice that our two closest kinds of animal companions represent such disfferent personality types... cats are like the kind that won't smile without a particular reason...

Eliza Madrigal: Hahha :)

Finn Treves: dogs are all over you with joy...

Pila Mulligan: true Finn

Eliza Madrigal: Oh, that's true...

Bertrum Quan: Maybe everything that lives in nature embodies "Buddha nature " in some aspect.

Eliza Madrigal: All Buddha All the time :)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Bertrum Quan: Yes.

Finn Treves: :)

Eliza Madrigal: I've enjoyed tonight very much, but it is late here. I'm hopeful of getting a call about a job tomorrow :)

Pila Mulligan: good luck with the job hope, Eliza

Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, and Talk soon. Namaste.

Pila Mulligan: bye

Bertrum Quan: bye

stevenaia Michinaga: and congratualtions in advance

Eliza Madrigal: :) Thanks. Bye

Pila Mulligan: hi Mar

stevenaia Michinaga: hello Mar

stevenaia Michinaga: hppy Rez day

Bertrum Quan: I need to log off for now. Thanks, all.

Pila Mulligan: bye Bertrum, nice chatting with you

stevenaia Michinaga: night bert, good seeing you agian

Bertrum Quan: bye everybody.

Finn Treves: Bye, enjoy this...

Finn Treves: enjoyed

Pila Mulligan: how are you Steve?

stevenaia Michinaga: good, I was at a friends reading earlier, how was the meeting tonight?

Pila Mulligan: nice

Pila Mulligan: Ade was GoC and misse dit, but I claimed the log for her, and will IM the link

stevenaia Michinaga: last night there was a very low turnout

Pila Mulligan: Sunday afternoon it was packed

stevenaia Michinaga: jsut a few words, other suday nights it's quite busy

stevenaia Michinaga: this your first time here FInn?

Finn Treves: Yes, I can't remember what I was searching for when I chose to teleport here...

Pila Mulligan: :)

Finn Treves: but it's good

stevenaia Michinaga: don;t forget to landmark it

Finn Treves: Found the buddhists and added lots of links too...

Finn Treves: yes.

Pila Mulligan: ah, you found Starsitter's Skeptical Buddhist place

Pila Mulligan: they are a nice group

Pila Mulligan: quite a few Buddhist groups in SL

stevenaia Michinaga: there are quiet a fre

stevenaia Michinaga: few

stevenaia Michinaga: some are jsut meditation

Finn Treves: I'm looking forward to meditating with an SL group.. I think of the computer as my greatest distraction from being with the moment...

Pila Mulligan: it is an interesting expereince ot meditate in an SL goup

Pila Mulligan: not quite lik eRL, but pretty close actually

Pila Mulligan: moreso than I expected

Finn Treves: alone with others...

stevenaia Michinaga: I jsut got a link

Pila Mulligan: yes

stevenaia Michinaga: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Snowlion...tain/210/96/22

stevenaia Michinaga: if yu are intersted Finn

Finn Treves: how do I copy the link?

Finn Treves: (still new here)

stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, you can look into people's prifiles and join free groups

Finn Treves: Oh, of course... ita's in your profile! Ill look..

stevenaia Michinaga: if yu clik on the link you will get a teleport location

Pila Mulligan: how do youget a link into your inventory Steve?

Pila Mulligan: there does ont seem to be a save button

stevenaia Michinaga: not sure, I jsut know how to join groups

Finn Treves: Me too... sorry, what was the name of the group again?

Pila Mulligan: Kannonji Zen Retreat

stevenaia Michinaga: one of my buddist's groups

Finn Treves: thanksm thanks and thanks pila

Pila Mulligan: seninding Finnsome landlamrks :)

stevenaia Michinaga: soon you will ahve so many you won;t be able to fine any :)

Pila Mulligan: :)

Finn Treves: It's alread taxing my secretarial skills

Finn Treves: !!

Pila Mulligan: some of these may not still exist :)

stevenaia Michinaga: you from the states, Finn?

Finn Treves: (moment of relief)

Finn Treves: Yes, a region that's on SL time, which is handy...

Finn Treves: you too?

Pila Mulligan: there, that's all of mine Finn :)

stevenaia Michinaga: PA

Pila Mulligan: just below MA

Finn Treves: Thanks, my lucky day!

Finn Treves: o.k...

Finn Treves: We have a Buddhist group I can never get to that's 5 blocks away...

Finn Treves: but I may do better with these

stevenaia Michinaga: you;re always close in SL

stevenaia Michinaga: I enjoy that PaB is every 6 hours

Finn Treves: Not long to wait if you can't make it...

Pila Mulligan: yes, having it so regularly availableis pretty unique

Finn Treves: Do you attend more than once a day sometimes?

Finn Treves: Almost like having a monastary in your house, available all the time, it sounds like...

stevenaia Michinaga: sometime depending on how my day is going

Finn Treves: I've enjoyed connecting with you but I should get going.... look forward to seeing you again soon..

stevenaia Michinaga: see you soon Finn

Pila Mulligan: bye Finn, nice to meet you

Finn Treves: bye Seve, Pila...

Pila Mulligan: how's the tai chi doing Steve?

stevenaia Michinaga: took a break last week, picks up again tomarrow then another 8 week set

Pila Mulligan: :)

Pila Mulligan: was your frined's reading in SL

Pila Mulligan: earlier

stevenaia Michinaga: I;m really jsut at the begining

Pila Mulligan: aren;t we all :)

stevenaia Michinaga: she reads the book chapters in voice that wil be discussed at her tuesday discussion group at 6:00 slt

Pila Mulligan: ah, nice

stevenaia Michinaga: so a couple of us jest listen

stevenaia Michinaga: she;s a good reader

Pila Mulligan: is that Dharma?

stevenaia Michinaga: this was a buddist book on the art of happyness, I was not impressed

stevenaia Michinaga: yes

Pila Mulligan: not impressed?

stevenaia Michinaga: she did not pick the book

stevenaia Michinaga: the book was about everything from suffering to jealousy to self hate

Pila Mulligan: oh, weighty stuff

stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t get much from that

Pila Mulligan: brb

stevenaia Michinaga: ok

Pila Mulligan: got a bowl of ocld spaghetti

stevenaia Michinaga: I did ejoy the parts which consisted of a dialogue with the Dami Lama

stevenaia Michinaga: jsut had spagheti on Saturday

Pila Mulligan: yes, this is left over from mine then too

stevenaia Michinaga: we had a bunch of people over including Sylectra and her BF

Pila Mulligan: or was it Friday?

Pila Mulligan: cool

Pila Mulligan: but not the kids?

stevenaia Michinaga: lol, nope

Pila Mulligan: :)

stevenaia Michinaga: they stayed over with other friends, it was a musical evening, three guitarists and food and drink

stevenaia Michinaga: a good time

Pila Mulligan: fun :)

Pila Mulligan: did you jam

stevenaia Michinaga: not me, but they did

Pila Mulligan: that is such fun

stevenaia Michinaga: there;s a pic of Sylectra on my facebook page looking happy

Pila Mulligan: :0

Pila Mulligan: brb again (ading crakcers and cheese)

Pila Mulligan: back

stevenaia Michinaga: wb

Pila Mulligan: thanks

Pila Mulligan: spaghetti topping on a chees cracker, pretty god :)

stevenaia Michinaga: lol, hope it;s not out of a can

Pila Mulligan: nope :)

Pila Mulligan: I stumbled upon the meaing of Scathach's name today

Pila Mulligan: in a book by Salma Rushdie :)

stevenaia Michinaga: oh?

Pila Mulligan: Salman

Pila Mulligan: seems Scathach is a legendary warrior woman of Scotland, from the Isl of Skye

Pila Mulligan: Rushdie has her in one of his books

stevenaia Michinaga: awww, a good scotch island

stevenaia Michinaga: is she scottish?

Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure

stevenaia Michinaga: well I think I;m calling it a night

stevenaia Michinaga: take care Pila

Pila Mulligan: bye Steve, nice to see oyu

stevenaia Michinaga: :)