2009.03.02 19:00 - Dogs dream, it seems

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    Pila Mulligan: hi Eliza

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Pila :)

    Pila Mulligan: how are you?

    Eliza Madrigal: Rather well, you?

    Pila Mulligan: fine, thanks

    Eliza Madrigal: :) What did you cook today?

    Pila Mulligan: re-warmed left over pizza :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Hah

    Eliza Madrigal: Sounds good

    Pila Mulligan: it was still good, too

    Eliza Madrigal: I was going to make the curry today...but then I got distracted..

    Pila Mulligan: my next cooking thing will be some stir fry tofu and zuchini and rice -- got the ingredients but today was too busy for time to cook

    Eliza Madrigal: :) It is wonderful to be able to love to cook....my interest goes in spurts...

    Eliza Madrigal: sometimes weeks....

    Pila Mulligan: but you do not suspend eating in between ...

    Eliza Madrigal: Such a vital part of life, yes! Exactly.

    Eliza Madrigal: I could eat a veggie burger every day

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Pila Mulligan: I like cooking and usuaully make enough to last for several days

    Pila Mulligan: me too

    Pila Mulligan: have you ever had a taro burger?

    Eliza Madrigal: No...?

    Pila Mulligan: taro is a starchy Hawaiian plant, it is best known for its being made into poi

    Pila Mulligan: it is somewhat like a sweet potato

    Pila Mulligan: in texture and appearance

    Pila Mulligan: makes an excellent veggi burger

    Pila Mulligan: with spinach as a binder

    Eliza Madrigal: Hmmm love sweet potatoes...sounds great

    Pila Mulligan: more substantial than a potato as food, too

    Pila Mulligan: taro is

    Eliza Madrigal: You inspire me. Now I see you and I start wanting to cook :)

    Pila Mulligan: :) cool

    Pila Mulligan: di some delicious spaghetti the other day

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah?

    Pila Mulligan: being a vegetarian my meals are generally variations of tofu, vegetable and rice or noodles

    Pila Mulligan: spaghetti makes a nice break from asian stly enoodles

    Eliza Madrigal: Sure...which means that seasoning becomes crucial

    Pila Mulligan: yes, indeed

    Pila Mulligan: luckily my neighbors are genuine food artists and share their homemade curry powder

    Eliza Madrigal: That is lucky!

    Pila Mulligan: it is so perfectly balanced as a flavoring

    Eliza Madrigal: And lucky that they're friendly

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Pila Mulligan: :) yes

    Pila Mulligan: do you use the Gardenburgers?

    Eliza Madrigal: I have lovely neighbors also...just took them red potatoes tonight...had a large bag...too much

    Eliza Madrigal: Yes

    Pila Mulligan: nice

    Pila Mulligan: Gardenburger is best

    Pila Mulligan: their mushroom one is especially nice

    Eliza Madrigal: I think so...like the strings of spinach ..more interesting than boca burgers

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: spinach is really a good binder for burgers

    Eliza Madrigal: I put onions on everything too...so good that we're virtual :)

    Pila Mulligan: have you ever made soyburgers?

    Pila Mulligan: :) I lov eonions

    Pila Mulligan: and garlic

    Eliza Madrigal: No....my efforts at *making* have been less than brilliant so far...

    Eliza Madrigal: Once in a while I stumble into a flow...

    Eliza Madrigal: So all my food is mixed together... :)

    Pila Mulligan: soybeans are interesting, but you need a pressure cooker or a lot of patience

    Eliza Madrigal: It seems t come and go in seasons. One summer I worked on sushi...

    Pila Mulligan: ahh, fun

    Eliza Madrigal: did alright...was fun.

    Pila Mulligan: did you use rice filler?

    Eliza Madrigal: used vinegar?

    Eliza Madrigal: So other than that I didn't add to the rice....

    Eliza Madrigal: was a mess!

    Eliza Madrigal: But still fun

    Pila Mulligan: I do not do the fish, but like veggie sushi rolls

    Eliza Madrigal: Yes...avocado are my favorite

    Pila Mulligan: yuummm

    Eliza Madrigal: California avocado though...

    Eliza Madrigal: the other aren't very malleable

    Pila Mulligan: are you in Califonria, may I ask?

    Eliza Madrigal: No....Miami :)

    Pila Mulligan: ahh, I am in Hawaii and we have avocados out the yingyang

    Eliza Madrigal: Haha..probably the softer kind also

    Pila Mulligan: yes, very excellent for sandwiches, sushi and guacamole

    Pila Mulligan: with gardenburgers especially

    Eliza Madrigal: I grew up in a house with five huge avocado trees...and hated them! I grew up though, and a light went on

    Eliza Madrigal: Oh...yes!!

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: indeed

    Pila Mulligan: do you have breadfruit?

    Eliza Madrigal: I think it was that it was my job to go around with broken wheelbarrow and pick up the awful ones Hahah

    Pila Mulligan: yes, they can be a real mess on the gorund

    Eliza Madrigal: No....starfruit though. I'm not sure I've heard of breadfruit

    Eliza Madrigal: Unless it is something I've called by another name

    Pila Mulligan: breadfruit is actually like eggplant in its use -- quite an interesting tree

    Pila Mulligan: it is called ulu here, but breadfruit in english

    Pila Mulligan: eggplant is a favrotie of mine

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: baked breadfruit is quite a meal

    Eliza Madrigal: Okay..getting my notes right. I know some people who will prob. be able to find it for me :)

    Pila Mulligan: hi Bertrum

    Eliza Madrigal: The other day I spent $5 on one dragonfruit, and thought "Well it is pretty, but no flavor"

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Bertrum

    Bertrum Quan: hello

    Pila Mulligan: have a seat if you like

    Eliza Madrigal: How are you?

    Bertrum Quan: Fine thanks.

    Pila Mulligan: here's a noteacrd in case you have not been here before

    Bertrum Quan: Thank you. I have attended before.

    Pila Mulligan: ok, thanks

    Eliza Madrigal: We were talking about food. :)

    Bertrum Quan: Great subject!

    Pila Mulligan: yes, a yummy topic

    Pila Mulligan: should we shift over to meditation -- as it seems we also are all meditators

    Pila Mulligan: or more food :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Either way. I love talking about meditation.

    Pila Mulligan: what meditation style do you practice Eliza?

    Eliza Madrigal: These days almost always zazen, but that is because I used to be a little scattered, am trying to stick with one thing a while :)

    Pila Mulligan: so it osunds like you have tried several different types

    Eliza Madrigal: Meta is too...and "gap" types of meditation.

    Pila Mulligan: hmm, those are not fasmiliar to me :)

    Pila Mulligan: I do a silent Chinese meditation, sometimes called Zen with details :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Metta is simply extending love,,but I think people call it diff things

    Eliza Madrigal: What is that like Pila?

    Pila Mulligan: ah,, nice

    Pila Mulligan: just sitting and breathing and contemplating

    Pila Mulligan: anyhting or nothing :)

    Pila Mulligan: the details are in the chi movemnet, Chinese methods are always big on chi

    Pila Mulligan: would I guess corectly that you also do Zen Bertrum?

    Bertrum Quan: Yes. I work at it.

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Chi is rather unfamiliar to me as a practice...find it interesting though

    Pila Mulligan: chi is ki, in Japanese -- breath energy -- prana in yoga

    Pila Mulligan: it is an energy that circulates with breathing

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes. I came into this through the yoga door ...so should be more familiar

    Pila Mulligan: yoga pranayam is breathing exercise

    Pila Mulligan: pranayama

    Pila Mulligan: rememebr how exhaling is associated with bending forward in yoga?

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah...holding and taking more in...and..expanding?

    Eliza Madrigal: yes

    Pila Mulligan: inhaling with straigthening up

    Pila Mulligan: well, that is also an integral part of tai chi

    Pila Mulligan: associating breathing with movement

    Eliza Madrigal: Integrating every aspect...body, mind.. Nice

    Pila Mulligan: the internal omvement of chi has corresponding associations with movements

    Pila Mulligan: it is fun :)

    Pila Mulligan: and, as Bertrum said, work :)

    Bertrum Quan: How have you found the 9-second exercise?

    Eliza Madrigal: :) I like that about meditation...that it is a Practice more than philosophy..

    Pila Mulligan: well, I must confess, I don't do it :)

    Pila Mulligan: i meditate every day for an hour already

    Eliza Madrigal: :) I do it...in the morning, and while I'm here.

    Pila Mulligan: I appreciate the tarrying moents that occur during the day, but I don;t do the 9 second practice

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Judy

    Eliza Madrigal: You're more than welcome to join us...

    Eliza Madrigal: I also consider what I do when writing meditation

    Eliza Madrigal: I wait...and let what floats up...float up

    Pila Mulligan: I agree, Eliza, there are many skills that are very close to meditation

    Pila Mulligan: making shoes, cabinets, etc, writing, lot os thinigs

    Eliza Madrigal: Cooking!

    Pila Mulligan: cooking indeed :)

    Bertrum Quan: I'd like to hear more about that, Eliza. HOw it works for you... writing and cooking...

    Pila Mulligan: the Zen of Motorcycle Repair

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, not me so much with the cooking :)

    Bertrum Quan: the wrtiting then...

    Eliza Madrigal: Writing, painting. I think it is just a matter of allowing...trying to stay in the moment and hear

    Eliza Madrigal: Go with something rather than making something happen

    Eliza Madrigal: Be

    Bertrum Quan: Is that how writing works for you?

    Eliza Madrigal: Painting can be like that also...but not quite as often. yes.

    Pila Mulligan: hi Finn

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Finn

    Pila Mulligan: have a seat if you like

    Finn Treves: thanks...

    Bertrum Quan: Are you referring to stream of consciousness exercises in writing?

    Eliza Madrigal: Yes and no. It is nearly the same thing as when in meditation..Sometimes hard to put to words

    Eliza Madrigal: Comes out in patterns...feels like a real exhange :)

    Bertrum Quan: Poetry too?

    Eliza Madrigal: And I can't decide to do it or beg r plead hahha

    Finn Treves: Ah, sure... I probably won't chat much today anyway (if at all...)

    Pila Mulligan: ok, feel free to if you wish

    Finn Treves: :)

    Pila Mulligan: gave Finn a notecard an IM

    Eliza Madrigal: I've seen that book Pila...motorcycle ...must be good

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Bertrum Quan: A classic.

    Pila Mulligan: so you are finding your muse, ELiza, in writinng

    Eliza Madrigal: Hm... Sometimes I'd say immediately yes

    Pila Mulligan: and then there is the dreaded writrs block :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Well...there's the scrutiny thing. I'm someone who needs to meditate A Lot

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Have to love yourself and trust that what is

    Eliza Madrigal: flowing ...

    Eliza Madrigal: Or trust what is flowing I should say

    Pila Mulligan: a chat here last week got into how words are often reflections of mental images

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah, yes.

    Pila Mulligan: insights usually seem to arrive not yet formed in words

    Eliza Madrigal: have to give permission to let them take shape

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: "get out of the way"

    Eliza Madrigal: When do you all feel most connected?

    Bertrum Quan: That may be central to creation in all of the arts

    Eliza Madrigal: Hm, I'm sure.

    Pila Mulligan: Eliza, you referred earlier to allowing, trying to stay in the moment and hear, going with something rather than making something happen

    Pila Mulligan: that resonates withme in terms fo creativity and feeling connected

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Pila Mulligan: are you familiar with the Chinese concept called wu wei?

    Eliza Madrigal: Not doing?

    Pila Mulligan: kind of

    Eliza Madrigal: I know there is more to it...

    Pila Mulligan: not interfering with nature may be accurate also

    Pila Mulligan: nature, and human nature

    Pila Mulligan: 'go with the flow'

    Eliza Madrigal: Is it a Taoist concept? It makes sense to me....and when I think of particle physics...that when you look to see what is hapening it stops

    Pila Mulligan: yes, the not doing relates to the idea of using action to attain nonaction

    Pila Mulligan: doing the best with the least impact on the natural flow of things

    Eliza Madrigal: Oh...few traces

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: quantum stuff is so cool, I iwsh I understod it

    Eliza Madrigal: hahha. me too. I love being "over my head" though

    Pila Mulligan: but when you try to draw an analogy here with quantum physics there is uaully a serious sicnetist around to help set you staright

    Eliza Madrigal: :) That's great too

    Eliza Madrigal: I like the way you phrased wu wei. I'm writing it out just like that to think about more

    Pila Mulligan: one of the neuro science people here last week said his measurements of the total acticity of would could be consious energy is like 100 times greater than what we are actually aware of

    Pila Mulligan: more thn 100 actualy

    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, interesting. What do you think implications of that could be?

    Pila Mulligan: well, it is so akin to the expanded consciousness apsect of traditional contemplative practices

    Pila Mulligan: as one part

    Pila Mulligan: he also said he felt words and acts are settled in a preconsious manner before they actually come into the mind

    Pila Mulligan: now there' an interesting take on free will :)

    Eliza Madrigal: Ah..the choices. Absolutely!

    Eliza Madrigal: Maybe just because 90% of capacity is darkened out to our itelligence...doesn't mean it isn't working :)

    Pila Mulligan: :) yes, I think that was what he meant, and he called the preconsious phase the part just before we realize a thought

    Eliza Madrigal: Science seems to be an "art" which is helped by that state of flow also....connection

    Pila Mulligan: yes, but limited by the need to measure things

    Pila Mulligan: the scrutiny :)

    Eliza Madrigal: But something keeps them looking for what to measure

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: yes it does

    Pila Mulligan: creativity no doubt

    Bertrum Quan: That is it exactly

    Bertrum Quan: and what we also might call intuition

    Pila Mulligan: yes

    Eliza Madrigal: Yes!

    Eliza Madrigal: Another "allowing"

    Pila Mulligan: wu wei invovles a deepening of these senses by appreciating and respecting the natural flow of things

    Bertrum Quan: Being

    Pila Mulligan: I'll tell you a story, it is really just about nature, but to some it would sound mystical

    Pila Mulligan: I was driving up a rough mountain road with some frineds here in Hawaii about ten years ago

    Pila Mulligan: I have a four wheel drive

    Pila Mulligan: it was to a remote part of the mountain where the vistas are stunning

    Pila Mulligan: but at the start we had some really rough bumps and grinds

    Pila Mulligan: about a mile up the road these two birds started flying low, right in front of the car, then landing

    Pila Mulligan: so I'd slow way down, and wait until they moved and the drove on

    Pila Mulligan: they kept doig this quite a few times

    Pila Mulligan: flying in low in front of the car and landing there

    Pila Mulligan: it took a few minutes before the transmission fluid drained competely out from a crack in a gasket caused by one of the bumps

    Pila Mulligan: so at that point when I tried to dreive on after thye left the car just sat ther

    Pila Mulligan: being in Hawaii, we all gave the birds credit for trying to tell the humans they were dripping a trail of tranmission fluid

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: !

    Eliza Madrigal: makes sense to me...don't think it is particularly mystical..

    Eliza Madrigal: except in the loveliest way

    Pila Mulligan: me either

    Pila Mulligan: it is just ature

    Pila Mulligan: nature*

    Pila Mulligan: appreciating and respecting the natural flow of things

    Eliza Madrigal: :) Being...all in this together

    Pila Mulligan: yep

    Eliza Madrigal: I have a question about animals..birds in particular because I was at a rehab place fr birds yesterday

    Eliza Madrigal: And being.

    Bertrum Quan: It's possible too that the birds were not communicating... but just part of that which is...

    Pila Mulligan: yes, indeed

    Pila Mulligan: Being :)

    Eliza Madrigal: I wondered about their boredom....that I can imagine, or go away in some way

    Bertrum Quan: We sometimes have a need to assign meaning...

    Pila Mulligan: true

    Eliza Madrigal: And that they cannot...imagine in the same way? How does time pass for those birds do you think? Sitting, years at a time...in a small environment

    Pila Mulligan: you wonder about birds and animals being bored, Eliza?

    Eliza Madrigal: I stood with them.

    Pila Mulligan: they are always on their toes, it seems to me

    Pila Mulligan: in nature

    Pila Mulligan: oh, caged birds, yes

    Eliza Madrigal: Yes...at one point one of the girls said to me that the golden eagle was the most dangerous

    Eliza Madrigal: and I thought about all that bottled force and power

    Pila Mulligan: must be a frustrtaed ealge

    Eliza Madrigal: These weren't caged...but in a smallish environment

    Pila Mulligan: do you ever dream of birds?

    Eliza Madrigal: I don't know what my question is exactly...have just been thinking about them

    Pila Mulligan: or animals?

    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, dogs mostly :) You?

    Pila Mulligan: because Maxine's dreaming workshop comes to ind here

    Pila Mulligan: yes, me too

    Pila Mulligan: I suspect birds and animals also have a dream analogy

    Pila Mulligan: some type of imaginative activity

    Bertrum Quan: Can you explain...

    Pila Mulligan: well, what does a human prisoner do?

    Pila Mulligan: daydreaming -- fanatsy -- or else TV

    Pila Mulligan: my guess is that the birds in captivity may have some tpye of imaginative escpae

    Pila Mulligan: a dream like or fantasy recollection or intution of what tey would be doing in nautre

    Pila Mulligan: or in a larger environment

    Bertrum Quan: What makes you think so?

    Eliza Madrigal: I hope so. That's a great thought...sense memory

    Pila Mulligan: well, for example, seeing a dog sleeping and its legs moving like it is runing, or doing some type of pyhdical omvement

    Eliza Madrigal: that's true!! They get all worked up in sleep

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: so dogs dream, it seems

    Pila Mulligan: maybe there is more imaginative activity among birds and animals

    Eliza Madrigal: comforting

    Bertrum Quan: It might be more on

    Pila Mulligan: but the eagle si still pissed off it sound slike

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: I didn't ask what his injury was, but my thinking was that if he was okay to attack there must be some way to get him out into the open more...

    Pila Mulligan: Bertrum, wat were you saying about 'it might be more on ...'

    Bertrum Quan: I was thinking about your deam analogy. And it's certainly possible. The movements may be more on anatomical level...

    Bertrum Quan: dream analogy

    Pila Mulligan: horses also seem to have a good intuitive capacity

    Pila Mulligan: maybe that is somehow related to imagintion

    Bertrum Quan: Being more in tune with nature... that might be another way to define the intution/imagination

    Pila Mulligan: I think so

    Pila Mulligan: being open to it

    Eliza Madrigal: Next time I dream about an animal, I'll ask them :)

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: i look forward to heainrg the answer

    Bertrum Quan: Back in waking life, some animals demonstrate a kind of awareness that we might deem empathy

    Eliza Madrigal: Yes, definitely. Empathy.

    Pila Mulligan: yes, they do -- dogs especially seem to be sensitive that way

    Bertrum Quan: Cats evidence that sense as well...

    Pila Mulligan: cats impress me as more interested in being aloof :)

    Pila Mulligan: but I am a dog person :)

    Eliza Madrigal: I have a great cat, he fetches

    Pila Mulligan: wow

    Eliza Madrigal: Yeah...is quite funny. He's getting older and won't Perform much for me anymore though :)

    Bertrum Quan: If you study cats, that are very intuitive (in the way we are discussing it).

    Eliza Madrigal: He sits where I sit for meditation...often

    Pila Mulligan: nice

    Eliza Madrigal: never dream cats though....odd

    Eliza Madrigal: :)

    Bertrum Quan: There was a news story tnot too long ago about a cat living in a nursing home. He also knew which patients were going to die. And he comforted them.

    Eliza Madrigal: MMM

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Bertrum Quan: That cat was seen to be aloof (in general activity) but then he would comfort the dying patients..

    Eliza Madrigal: My great grandfather's dog used to fetch a tennis ball, and after his stroke, he adapted to put it on his foot so he could pull it up to throw.

    Pila Mulligan: cats and dogs are associated with a kind of spiritual awareness in some literature

    Pila Mulligan: hi Steve

    Bertrum Quan: hi Steve.

    Eliza Madrigal: Always like the idea of the daemons in Dark Materials series

    stevenaia Michinaga: evening

    Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steven

    Pila Mulligan: does a dog have Buddha nature?

    Finn Treves: It's nice that our two closest kinds of animal companions represent such disfferent personality types... cats are like the kind that won't smile without a particular reason...

    Eliza Madrigal: Hahha :)

    Finn Treves: dogs are all over you with joy...

    Pila Mulligan: true Finn

    Eliza Madrigal: Oh, that's true...

    Bertrum Quan: Maybe everything that lives in nature embodies "Buddha nature " in some aspect.

    Eliza Madrigal: All Buddha All the time :)

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Bertrum Quan: Yes.

    Finn Treves: :)

    Eliza Madrigal: I've enjoyed tonight very much, but it is late here. I'm hopeful of getting a call about a job tomorrow :)

    Pila Mulligan: good luck with the job hope, Eliza

    Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, and Talk soon. Namaste.

    Pila Mulligan: bye

    Bertrum Quan: bye

    stevenaia Michinaga: and congratualtions in advance

    Eliza Madrigal: :) Thanks. Bye

    Pila Mulligan: hi Mar

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Mar

    stevenaia Michinaga: hppy Rez day

    Bertrum Quan: I need to log off for now. Thanks, all.

    Pila Mulligan: bye Bertrum, nice chatting with you

    stevenaia Michinaga: night bert, good seeing you agian

    Bertrum Quan: bye everybody.

    Finn Treves: Bye, enjoy this...

    Finn Treves: enjoyed

    Pila Mulligan: how are you Steve?

    stevenaia Michinaga: good, I was at a friends reading earlier, how was the meeting tonight?

    Pila Mulligan: nice

    Pila Mulligan: Ade was GoC and misse dit, but I claimed the log for her, and will IM the link

    stevenaia Michinaga: last night there was a very low turnout

    Pila Mulligan: Sunday afternoon it was packed

    stevenaia Michinaga: jsut a few words, other suday nights it's quite busy

    stevenaia Michinaga: this your first time here FInn?

    Finn Treves: Yes, I can't remember what I was searching for when I chose to teleport here...

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Finn Treves: but it's good

    stevenaia Michinaga: don;t forget to landmark it

    Finn Treves: Found the buddhists and added lots of links too...

    Finn Treves: yes.

    Pila Mulligan: ah, you found Starsitter's Skeptical Buddhist place

    Pila Mulligan: they are a nice group

    Pila Mulligan: quite a few Buddhist groups in SL

    stevenaia Michinaga: there are quiet a fre

    stevenaia Michinaga: few

    stevenaia Michinaga: some are jsut meditation

    Finn Treves: I'm looking forward to meditating with an SL group.. I think of the computer as my greatest distraction from being with the moment...

    Pila Mulligan: it is an interesting expereince ot meditate in an SL goup

    Pila Mulligan: not quite lik eRL, but pretty close actually

    Pila Mulligan: moreso than I expected

    Finn Treves: alone with others...

    stevenaia Michinaga: I jsut got a link

    Pila Mulligan: yes

    stevenaia Michinaga: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Snowlion...tain/210/96/22

    stevenaia Michinaga: if yu are intersted Finn

    Finn Treves: how do I copy the link?

    Finn Treves: (still new here)

    stevenaia Michinaga: hmm, you can look into people's prifiles and join free groups

    Finn Treves: Oh, of course... ita's in your profile! Ill look..

    stevenaia Michinaga: if yu clik on the link you will get a teleport location

    Pila Mulligan: how do youget a link into your inventory Steve?

    Pila Mulligan: there does ont seem to be a save button

    stevenaia Michinaga: not sure, I jsut know how to join groups

    Finn Treves: Me too... sorry, what was the name of the group again?

    Pila Mulligan: Kannonji Zen Retreat

    stevenaia Michinaga: one of my buddist's groups

    Finn Treves: thanksm thanks and thanks pila

    Pila Mulligan: seninding Finnsome landlamrks :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: soon you will ahve so many you won;t be able to fine any :)

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Finn Treves: It's alread taxing my secretarial skills

    Finn Treves: !!

    Pila Mulligan: some of these may not still exist :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: you from the states, Finn?

    Finn Treves: (moment of relief)

    Finn Treves: Yes, a region that's on SL time, which is handy...

    Finn Treves: you too?

    Pila Mulligan: there, that's all of mine Finn :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: PA

    Pila Mulligan: just below MA

    Finn Treves: Thanks, my lucky day!

    Finn Treves: o.k...

    Finn Treves: We have a Buddhist group I can never get to that's 5 blocks away...

    Finn Treves: but I may do better with these

    stevenaia Michinaga: you;re always close in SL

    stevenaia Michinaga: I enjoy that PaB is every 6 hours

    Finn Treves: Not long to wait if you can't make it...

    Pila Mulligan: yes, having it so regularly availableis pretty unique

    Finn Treves: Do you attend more than once a day sometimes?

    Finn Treves: Almost like having a monastary in your house, available all the time, it sounds like...

    stevenaia Michinaga: sometime depending on how my day is going

    Finn Treves: I've enjoyed connecting with you but I should get going.... look forward to seeing you again soon..

    stevenaia Michinaga: see you soon Finn

    Pila Mulligan: bye Finn, nice to meet you

    Finn Treves: bye Seve, Pila...

    Pila Mulligan: how's the tai chi doing Steve?

    stevenaia Michinaga: took a break last week, picks up again tomarrow then another 8 week set

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    Pila Mulligan: was your frined's reading in SL

    Pila Mulligan: earlier

    stevenaia Michinaga: I;m really jsut at the begining

    Pila Mulligan: aren;t we all :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: she reads the book chapters in voice that wil be discussed at her tuesday discussion group at 6:00 slt

    Pila Mulligan: ah, nice

    stevenaia Michinaga: so a couple of us jest listen

    stevenaia Michinaga: she;s a good reader

    Pila Mulligan: is that Dharma?

    stevenaia Michinaga: this was a buddist book on the art of happyness, I was not impressed

    stevenaia Michinaga: yes

    Pila Mulligan: not impressed?

    stevenaia Michinaga: she did not pick the book

    stevenaia Michinaga: the book was about everything from suffering to jealousy to self hate

    Pila Mulligan: oh, weighty stuff

    stevenaia Michinaga: I don;t get much from that

    Pila Mulligan: brb

    stevenaia Michinaga: ok

    Pila Mulligan: got a bowl of ocld spaghetti

    stevenaia Michinaga: I did ejoy the parts which consisted of a dialogue with the Dami Lama

    stevenaia Michinaga: jsut had spagheti on Saturday

    Pila Mulligan: yes, this is left over from mine then too

    stevenaia Michinaga: we had a bunch of people over including Sylectra and her BF

    Pila Mulligan: or was it Friday?

    Pila Mulligan: cool

    Pila Mulligan: but not the kids?

    stevenaia Michinaga: lol, nope

    Pila Mulligan: :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: they stayed over with other friends, it was a musical evening, three guitarists and food and drink

    stevenaia Michinaga: a good time

    Pila Mulligan: fun :)

    Pila Mulligan: did you jam

    stevenaia Michinaga: not me, but they did

    Pila Mulligan: that is such fun

    stevenaia Michinaga: there;s a pic of Sylectra on my facebook page looking happy

    Pila Mulligan: :0

    Pila Mulligan: brb again (ading crakcers and cheese)

    Pila Mulligan: back

    stevenaia Michinaga: wb

    Pila Mulligan: thanks

    Pila Mulligan: spaghetti topping on a chees cracker, pretty god :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: lol, hope it;s not out of a can

    Pila Mulligan: nope :)

    Pila Mulligan: I stumbled upon the meaing of Scathach's name today

    Pila Mulligan: in a book by Salma Rushdie :)

    stevenaia Michinaga: oh?

    Pila Mulligan: Salman

    Pila Mulligan: seems Scathach is a legendary warrior woman of Scotland, from the Isl of Skye

    Pila Mulligan: Rushdie has her in one of his books

    stevenaia Michinaga: awww, a good scotch island

    stevenaia Michinaga: is she scottish?

    Pila Mulligan: I'm not sure

    stevenaia Michinaga: well I think I;m calling it a night

    stevenaia Michinaga: take care Pila

    Pila Mulligan: bye Steve, nice to see oyu

    stevenaia Michinaga: :)

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