2009.03.31 07:00 - Remember last year?

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.

    Riddle, needs to run quick right now.  here is the posting so the scribes have it. I will come back to edit in some witty comments (maybe).

    Riddle Sideways: Good Morning Fael
    Fael Illyar: Good morning Riddle :)
    Riddle Sideways: good Morning Gybele
    Gybele Silvera: Good mornig Fael and Riddle
    Fael Illyar: Hi Adams :)
    Gybele Silvera: Hi Adams
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Adams
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Riddle, Fael and Gybele :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Nice to meet you Gybele :)
    Fael Illyar: Hello Selene :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Last day of the first year of PaB :)
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Riddle Sideways: Oh yeah, I was going to say that
    Riddle Sideways: seems like only a year ago
    Adams Dubrovna: hehe
    Gybele Silvera: hello Selene
    Adams Dubrovna: It is funny how SL time semed to be faster than RL time and then it slowed down and now they seem more the same
    Fael Illyar: Perhaps it wasn't that SL slowed down ;)
    Adams Dubrovna: haha Fael
    Adams Dubrovna: maybe :)
    Riddle Sideways: they are many parallels to RL, but some are different
    Adams Dubrovna: I'll say :)
    Riddle Sideways: in RL I have real trouble remembering ppl names
    Riddle Sideways: in SL ppl just change there names andd/or bodies
    Riddle Sideways: it is not so much me forgetting
    Adams Dubrovna chuckles
    Riddle Sideways: sorry, I was told not to say forgetting
    Riddle Sideways: I have trouble relating labels to objects
    Riddle Sideways: names to bodies
    Fael Illyar: yes, you forget names, not people :)
    Adams Dubrovna: I forget who I am myself some times :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Confuse myself
    Riddle Sideways: hehehe
    Fael Illyar: in SL, when you talk to someone, the "body" you see when you talk is the name :)
    Fael Illyar: you need t pay attention to tell people apart
    Fael Illyar: so you remember it
    Fael Illyar: enough practise
    Adams Dubrovna: With 58 guardians we may soon need a scorecard
    Riddle Sideways: an excelant point
    Riddle Sideways: The av you see is the name
    Riddle Sideways: the person you don't see is the entity
    Riddle Sideways: often we think that meeting ya'll in RL would cheat that
    Fael Illyar: you can't rely on people's AVs looking the same so, the name is the only reliable way to identify them :)
    Adams Dubrovna: That is if they don;t change their name
    Adams Dubrovna: Good morning Pema :)
    Fael Illyar: Well, yes, but it still is the most reliable way to identify people :)
    Fael Illyar: Ohayou..
    Riddle Sideways: good morning Pema
    Gybele Silvera: hello Pema
    Fael Illyar: morning, Pema :)
    Pema Pera: hi everybody!
    Gybele Silvera: hoping I finally found the solution to the dress lags
    Pema Pera: (just got out of the train tunnel, in internet range :-)
    Fael Illyar: Hello Darkflow :)
    Riddle Sideways: Hi Darkflow

    A very nice one eyed (size of it's entire head) little orange av enters. I should have taken a photo.

    [Hehe...here is the photo you thought you didn't take, Riddle....Adams]


    DarkFlow Quicksand: Hello!
    Gybele Silvera: hi Darkflow
    Pema Pera: Good monring, Darkflow
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Darkflow
    DarkFlow Quicksand: Good morning!
    Riddle Sideways: ah, we were being silent for 90 sec
    Riddle Sideways: Darkflow have we met before
    Riddle Sideways: as we were just saying names and avs and bodies change in SL so
    DarkFlow Quicksand: No. We have met laster but not efore.
    DarkFlow Quicksand: We have met later, but not before.
    Riddle Sideways: I understand both
    DarkFlow Quicksand: I understand neither as well.
    Me thinks a WatchMen reference...
    Riddle Sideways: we are within 2-3 meetings of being here a year
    Riddle Sideways: Pema, the chat log from that first meeting does not list who was there
    Adams Dubrovna: nope
    Adams Dubrovna: who was there?
    Riddle Sideways: I think I didn't come until meeting 2
    Pema Pera: hmm, let me check
    Pema Pera: I did not have any system in place, really, when I started. I just started!
    Pema Pera: I thought I would just give a brief summary of each meeting
    Riddle Sideways: that is a good way to start
    Pema Pera: I had no idea at all it would become this elaborate!
    Adams Dubrovna: It was fun to see things we take for granted come into existence as it moved along
    Pema Pera: but let me check who was there in my personal chat log -- an interesting question (also for the Chronicles project, Adams!)
    Riddle Sideways: would you have continued if you had known?
    Riddle Sideways: I got the feeling that Storm was already known in the tea room
    Riddle Sideways: I remember it took me a long time to get in the door
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Pema Pera: who is to say, Riddle? I think I would, yes
    Adams Dubrovna: I had that trouble still at a recent interview Riddle :)
    Pema Pera: Okay, here are the first sentences on April 1, 2008:
    Pema Pera:
    [2008/04/01 6:57] You: Hi Caledonia!
    [2008/04/01 6:57] Caledonia Heron: gut morgen :)
    [2008/04/01 6:58] You: goede morgen in my language ;>)
    [2008/04/01 6:58] Caledonia Heron: is your last name not a greeting also? hut hut!
    [2008/04/01 6:58] Caledonia Heron: oh no, hej hej, that's it right?
    [2008/04/01 6:58] You: what a hoot!
    [2008/04/01 6:58] Caledonia Heron: hoot hoot
    [2008/04/01 6:59] Caledonia Heron: it is just we two then?
    [2008/04/01 6:59] You: we'll see
    [2008/04/01 6:59] Caledonia Heron: k
    [2008/04/01 6:59] You: it's not quite the whole hour yet
    [2008/04/01 6:59] Caledonia Heron: ah, my computer is fast then
    Adams Dubrovna writes furiously
    Fael Illyar: Well, not quite a year for me yet :)
    Pema Pera: ah! a few interlopers came and went, and guess who else came, that very first session?
    Pema Pera:
    [2008/04/01 7:26] Riddle Sideways: good morning all
    Adams Dubrovna: hehe
    Adams Dubrovna: yay Riddle !
    Like answering a summons, Caledonia enters.
    Makes you believe that something else is going on.

    Fael Illyar: Hi Cal :)
    Riddle Sideways: oh dear
    Adams Dubrovna: Hello Cal :)
    Pema Pera: hahaha, deja vu all over again!
    Pema Pera: how funny
    Riddle Sideways: good morning Cal
    Caledonia Heron: hola :)
    Gybele Silvera: Hello Cal
    Pema Pera: Cal, we were talking about our very first PaB session, April 1, 7 am
    Caledonia Heron: lol
    Pema Pera: guess who were there? You and me and then Riddle . . . .
    Pema Pera: and here we are again
    Caledonia Heron: yes, I remember :)
    Caledonia Heron: that is why I came :)
    Pema Pera: you do ?!?!!!
    Pema Pera: :-)
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Pema Pera: wow, what a memory
    Noting the time signitures on the above entries..
    Riddle Sideways: Cal was right on time, I was late... some things don't change
    Caledonia Heron: today *I* was detained ... sorry
    Riddle Sideways: today, I was on time
    Caledonia Heron: perfect symmetry
    Riddle Sideways: so things do change :)
    Caledonia Heron: a great mix of new and old friends for me today :)
    Adams Dubrovna: and some repackaged friends :)
    Riddle Sideways: we have learned so much from each of our friends
    Adams Dubrovna: yes Riddle
    Caledonia Heron: hut hut
    Caledonia Heron: hej hej
    Riddle Sideways: lol
    Caledonia Heron: hoot hoot
    Caledonia Heron: some of our first greetings :)
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pema Pera: yup, we were not just on time
    Riddle Sideways: we were able to play from the start
    Pema Pera: this was prehistory, before we opened shop at 7 am !
    Pema Pera: preview
    Pema Pera: teaser
    Caledonia Heron: coming attraction
    Caledonia Heron: that is one bossy bell
    Pema Pera: The afternoon session had Storm, Riddle, Isen and me
    Riddle Sideways: Pema, is this your 24 or 25 session?
    Pema Pera: 22nd
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Riddle Sideways: over the year I thought I had learned some about pema
    Fael Illyar: hut hut :)
    Caledonia Heron: an authority bell, ... feeling resistance :)
    Adams Dubrovna: So the first session was Pema, Cal and Riddle and two people just apssing through?
    DarkFlow Quicksand: is the purpose here to be purposeless
    Caledonia Heron: hut hut
    Riddle Sideways: yet sunday he quoted frank zappa
    Fael Illyar proposes that to be the new official greeting.
    Riddle Sideways: I put that memory in a bottle
    Caledonia Heron: in a purposeful way Darksand :)
    DarkFlow Quicksand: =)
    Caledonia Heron: so moved Fael :)
    Pema Pera: The third and final session, for April 1, had five people: Maxine, Dakini, Friedrich, Bunan and me -- and Storm made a cameo appearance as a storm at the end
    Caledonia Heron: I often celebrate anniversary on the last day before the day ... like celebrating the last day of being 0
    Pema Pera: well, that would be today, we're doing well already!
    Caledonia Heron: exactly!
    Caledonia Heron: that's how I celebrte my birthday :) on the day before
    Pema Pera: and Darkflow, our purpose? I could say yes and no, depending how you ask :-)
    Fael Illyar did that on both ... the last time.
    Riddle Sideways: is good to remember every day is somebodies birthday (or day before)
    Riddle Sideways: so celebrate every day
    Caledonia Heron: ok :) I'm onboard ... (yells out to world) Happy Birthday Somebodies!!
    Pema Pera: celebration is the name of the game for PaB alright :-)
    Pema Pera: heheh, all 20 million of them!
    Fael Illyar: yes, happy birthday :)
    DarkFlow Quicksand: this is a celebration of the end of the first year?
    Riddle Sideways: almost
    Pema Pera: yes, we started on April 1, 2008
    Caledonia Heron: and the beginning of the next
    Riddle Sideways: coffee rather then champagne today
    DarkFlow Quicksand: so then tomorrow will be different?
    Pema Pera: see http://playasbeing.wordpress.com/200...first-meeting/
    Caledonia Heron: and the same
    Pema Pera: yes and yes :)
    Pema Pera: we've had well over a thousand sessions so far . . . .
    Riddle Sideways: Dark, your question seems simple but isvery hard to answer
    DarkFlow Quicksand: I could say yes and no, depending how you ask :-)
    Pema Pera: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: http://playasbeing.wik.is/PaB_Chroni...Month_of_April
    Caledonia Heron is in a giant riddling joust :)
    Riddle Sideways: thank you Adams
    Gybele Silvera: can something be unpurposal ?
    Riddle Sideways: oh yes
    Caledonia Heron: sure
    Gybele Silvera: somebody tell me an example pls ?
    Riddle Sideways: over that time we have mostly wrestled with HOW to type the letter of what we mean
    Riddle Sideways: so much chat about chat
    Caledonia Heron: chatty chat chat
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Riddle Sideways: developing a common language
    Riddle Sideways: like the ones wine tasters use
    Riddle Sideways: most wines do not taste fruity to me
    Caledonia Heron: yes, a lot of grappling with vocabularies
    Riddle Sideways: but that is waht is said of some wines
    Gybele Silvera: ...each letter can be 'just' the purpose to connect....
    Riddle Sideways: and all know that meaning
    Caledonia Heron: Zorn and I were reading a wine review and it said a "hint of bacon" .... yikes, bacon wine
    Pema Pera: purpose is a hard question: does a kid playing have a purpose? a pianist playing spontaneously? Someone going for a stroll in the spring?
    Gybele Silvera: giving is one purpose....receiving an other...to test ..to try...the purpose to learn...
    Gybele Silvera: sometimes the most important purpose can be having fun
    Riddle Sideways wonders if we all have the same define of presentation or appearance
    Riddle Sideways: ah the purpose of fun
    Caledonia Heron: hmmm, that bell
    Fael Illyar wonders if there's a need to explain the difference between purpose and Purpose ...
    Pema Pera: again it depends on how you define the word purpose
    Pema Pera: having fun may or may not be called a purpose :-)
    Riddle Sideways thinks Cal finds that bell so amuzing
    Gybele Silvera: the purpose can still be, even it's not thought or noticed :)
    DarkFlow Quicksand: what is the purpose of waking up?
    Pema Pera: well, I'll have to duck out, Princeton Junction train station coming up -- good seeing you all !
    Caledonia Heron: spontaneous has no purpose
    Caledonia Heron: ha ha Riddle
    Pema Pera: till next time!
    DarkFlow Quicksand: ciao!
    Gybele Silvera: to bring one's life to live in human world
    Adams Dubrovna: bye Pema :)
    Caledonia Heron: hut hut!!
    Fael Illyar: I'd say one is a reason to do things. The other is a name for things we punish ourselves for not fulfilling.
    Fael Illyar: hut hut :)
    Riddle Sideways: bye pema Andd thanks
    Gybele Silvera: bye Riddle
    Gybele Silvera: bye Pema
    Riddle Sideways: not me, yet
    Gybele Silvera: sry
    Gybele Silvera: understood wrong
    Riddle Sideways: then there is the "On Purpose"
    Adams Dubrovna: That was one fast train :)
    Riddle Sideways: wonder if the train passenger besidde Pema looks at SL
    Riddle Sideways: and like WTH
    Adams Dubrovna: ...and wish they could be like us
    Riddle Sideways: either
    Riddle Sideways: Fael, you saiddyou readd the wheel of time series
    Fael Illyar: Yes, I did :9
    Riddle Sideways: how long ddid it take you
    Riddle Sideways: I seem to be in there for a year
    Riddle Sideways: I am on book 6
    Fael Illyar: when I got the first ... 7 or 8 books, I read them through in a month I think.
    Riddle Sideways: and did nothing else?
    Fael Illyar: but that's years ago :)
    Fael Illyar: almost all free time there, yes :)
    Fael Illyar: Hey, I was in school at the time :)
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Fael Illyar: college level
    Riddle Sideways: when did you do school work
    Fael Illyar: I did not :)
    Riddle Sideways: ok
    Riddle Sideways: there is a point being repeated in those books now
    Riddle Sideways: each character is developing
    Riddle Sideways: expanding greatly
    Riddle Sideways: but other characters won't let them
    Fael Illyar: (try not to let them)
    Fael Illyar: (ultimately failing)
    Riddle Sideways: they keep referring to Mat as e always was
    Fael Illyar: yes, holding on to their ideas of what he is, even after he no longer is that.
    Riddle Sideways: the princess will always need saving
    Gybele Silvera: :)
    Riddle Sideways: even when she isqueen of all the world
    Riddle Sideways: the most powerful
    Riddle Sideways: is still a little girl to some
    Caledonia Heron: maybe the prince needs saving occasionally (in my book) by the princess
    Fael Illyar: yes, that happens a lot too :)
    Riddle Sideways: I love that kis book
    Riddle Sideways: can't remember the title
    Fael Illyar: I'd say that, actually, the less "powerful" women in the book need less saving :)
    Riddle Sideways: yeah
    Riddle Sideways: one point is that I woul not like to be Locked into the person I was yesteray
    Riddle Sideways: but I do that to my chilren
    Riddle Sideways: she will always be my little girl
    Fael Illyar: yes, why?
    Riddle Sideways: yet I hate that somebody
    Riddle Sideways: demands I be exactly yesterdays person
    Adams Dubrovna: I always thought of myself as Homer Simpson when giving advice to my children
    Adams Dubrovna: Not to be taken too seriously
    Caledonia Heron: that bell is like a water that asks if you need anything right when you get to the good part of the conversation
    Caledonia Heron: like a waiter I meant to type
    Riddle Sideways: would not the person realize somebody named Riddle would be a bit different
    Caledonia Heron: lol re Homer comment
    Fael Illyar: yes, it's good to make it clear that it's their own decision, even if they are asking for your advise.
    Caledonia Heron: d'oh
    Riddle Sideways: ah, to have a collection of Cal comments on the bell
    Riddle Sideways: each 15 min is different
    Caledonia Heron: I'm just getting started
    Caledonia Heron: first time with the bell
    Gybele Silvera: lol
    Riddle Sideways: a year ago, I downloaded and startedd running a gong program
    Riddle Sideways: several months ago itstopped running
    Riddle Sideways: I didnot notice
    Caledonia Heron: were you glad about it grasshopper?
    Riddle Sideways: not sure
    Fael Illyar: were you still doing the pauses on the bells when it stopped?
    Riddle Sideways: the gong now goes off in my headd, yes
    Riddle Sideways: and I am dingie
    Caledonia Heron: bonggggggggggggggggg
    Riddle Sideways: has amazing effect on co-workers
    Adams Dubrovna: :)
    Caledonia Heron: lol, no doubt
    Riddle Sideways: take a huge deep breath during a meeting
    Riddle Sideways: they sometimes do too
    Fael Illyar: I can make my cellphone go dongggggg every 15 minutes :)
    Riddle Sideways: ooooooo I could make mine vibrate
    Adams Dubrovna has no cellphone
    Riddle Sideways: electro shock theropy
    Caledonia Heron: wow, no cell.... you are a wizard Adams :)
    Riddle Sideways: good for you addams
    Adams Dubrovna: Nah, just an old foggie Cal :)
    Riddle Sideways: if somebody needs to get you, they just
    Riddle Sideways: HEY YOU
    Adams Dubrovna: yup
    Caledonia Heron: :)
    Adams Dubrovna: I never like regular phones...don;t see that I would like cellphones any better
    Riddle Sideways: I am thinking wizards would have smartphones
    Riddle Sideways: but, not do that subject
    Caledonia Heron: a smartphone is as smart as the wizardusing it :)
    Riddle Sideways: so true
    Adams Dubrovna: Is a smart phone anything like a smart classroom?
    Riddle Sideways: I thought I never told you about that
    Riddle Sideways: I didn't tell you what type of software I write
    Caledonia Heron: do tell
    Caledonia Heron: smart software?
    Riddle Sideways: hmmmmm, I need to do that another time
    Riddle Sideways: RL is starting to happen
    Caledonia Heron: yep, need to skeedaddle too
    Adams Dubrovna: me three :)
    Riddle Sideways: thank you all
    Caledonia Heron: bye y'all, happy zeoeth BD :)
    Adams Dubrovna: Bye everyone :)
    Fael Illyar: See you later Riddle, Adams, Cal :)
    Gybele Silvera: bye All
    Caledonia Heron: zero-ith
    Riddle Sideways: baa baa and have a nice one
    Caledonia Heron: zeroeth?
    Caledonia Heron: something wrangle that sheep
    Fael Illyar: hut hut :)
    Caledonia Heron: hut hut
    Caledonia Heron: hej hej
    Caledonia Heron: hoot hoot
    Riddle Sideways: :)

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