2009.04.12 01:00 - The meaning of life and everything and so on

Susi Alcott: Hi Moon
Moon Fargis: hi susi ^^
Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
Susi Alcott: Hi Martinlau
Martinlau Rae: hi
Moon Fargis: hiya
Martinlau Rae: what are you guys doing here?
Stargate Tone: Hello Martinlau
Susi Alcott: chatting
Moon Fargis: wwe are in a play as bein meeting , we meet here 4 times a day to talk about a new awarenes mediation form we practise
Moon Fargis: its open for everyone
Moon Fargis: and free to learn
Martinlau Rae: oh, since i am a new resgister of SL, i am still trying to figure out what the SL is
Susi Alcott: Hi Qt
Moon Fargis: well its second life :)
Stargate Tone: Hello Qt
Qt Core: Hi all
Moon Fargis: hi qt
Stargate Tone: ah; SL is all that RL
Moon Fargis: well in rl you cant fly like we do :)
Stargate Tone: it's ppl here *
Stargate Tone: hm...with Ur mind u can :)
Moon Fargis: martin: we also log our sessions here and paste them on our webpage (http://playasbeing.wik.is/) there yu also can read whats all about it
Moon Fargis: is it ok to include your name?
Stargate Tone: maybe it's good to think that SL is manifestation of the persons spirits more genuin will
Martinlau Rae: actually, i find out this application in my e-commerce text book. It seems quite different between the interpretation of the text book and the real world here
Qt Core: and with multiple av/outfit you can more clearly put out different sides of yourself
Moon Fargis: yes you open doors to your mind with your avatars
Stargate Tone: ah yes; you can 'play' male or female as you feel need/will
Moon Fargis: its thankfully no sensless war like other online words have
Moon Fargis: like warcraft aso
Martinlau Rae: i have tried, but it does really hard to open my mind
Stargate Tone: occures to my mind one person in my SL radio casting; as his dream told how he's got genuin possibilities to find all of himself; throught that step by step the whole nature of Univers
Stargate Tone: he only had have doubts that he's experiencies were somehow fauls...lie....
Moon Fargis: morning corvi ^^
Moon Fargis purrrrrrsssssssss
Stargate Tone: Good Morning Corvi
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Morning all
Martinlau Rae: after expriencing in here about half day, i did feel i am doing something aimless
Susi Alcott: Hi Corvi
Martinlau Rae: hi
Qt Core: Hi Corvi
Moon Fargis: martin: ahhh well what hobbys do y
Moon Fargis: intrests?
Moon Fargis: starwars?
Moon Fargis: you find everything here
Moon Fargis: buddhists and rl monks too
Qt Core: well, in virtual worlds like WoW there is a goal here there is no one... so they are infinite
Martinlau Rae: um..history, reading
Moon Fargis: lots of museums in sl too
Moon Fargis: and librarys
Qt Core: and historic places
Stargate Tone: and yes; just normal laws by Linden in SL too; just like in RL...
Stargate Tone: also that some persons dont follow them...like in RL
Stargate Tone: (lived 'few lives' in SL
Stargate Tone: +)
Stargate Tone: but...well...what U'll experience here...or not...completely up to you to decide
Stargate Tone: cuz one thing is completely different to RL; one can always log out without that it would be the final choice
Stargate Tone: ..thinking that in case you wanted to have more safety life in SL; you have come the the exact right place now
Moon Fargis: hehe yes well but theres a sentence
Qt Core: i think people (and myself) are more open in chats/IM.virtual worlds as they can the plug whenever they become stressed/unconfortable
Moon Fargis: i remember from one of my favorite songs
Corvuscorva Nightfire nods to QT
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and they tend to find good friends here, too, i think.
Moon Fargis: "even theres no pain, rules are still the same"
Stargate Tone: some are; some do lie more than in RL....
Stargate Tone: ah yes Moon
Moon Fargis: (enigma - tnt for the brain)
Stargate Tone: we just had good conversation last night in Hikari meeting about free will
Stargate Tone: as there was a person who had not understood that it's truely 'there'
Moon Fargis: (can also mean if theres no pain, rules are still the same, cant quiet understand it but should hitthe direction)
Qt Core: don't know how they do it... well, maybe i know... sometime telling lees (especially about and to oneself) is easier and less panfull than telling the true
Stargate Tone: as he had forgottan that each one makes one's own desicion already 'loggin in' to the new awaken time in human world
Stargate Tone: that no matter what kind of rules there are; one can still make much choices not to suffer...
Moon Fargis: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCymEgkkNG0)
Stargate Tone: ->the songs message
Stargate Tone: yes Qt; sadly people feel many 'reasons' to lie
Stargate Tone: mostly that is only cuz they are afraid that there wishes wouldn't come true otherwise
Stargate Tone: not thinking that the lie in fact makes things even worse
Qt Core: and maybe sometimes we don't ever know we are lieing
Stargate Tone: cuz the truth shall always effect at least a little
Stargate Tone: and the way that the lie hurts at least the liar
Stargate Tone: hm; I've been teached that it's also possible to lie to oneself....but....know also that it's 'quite easy' to check that out if one has any doubts of that
Stargate Tone: but...that surely also is the choice if to....
Qt Core: weird video...
Stargate Tone: but cuz of the genuin nature of human kind beings too, is the will to know the truth
Moon Fargis: qt: yes enigma have intresting videos sometimes
Stargate Tone: so...normally it's 'just that' so called 'heart' that tells....if there's something wrong in one's own mind...that 'telling' is bad feelings; feeling that something is missing...
Stargate Tone: so...that feeling use to help ppl to seek...
Moon Fargis: (psssst)
Moon Fargis: binnng
Stargate Tone: not even trying to say, that all bad feelings would be imagined or self created bad situations effect
Stargate Tone: if one is hungry and cannot get food; that's painfull
Moon Fargis: martin: so even in sl you can have a wife, being marryd and can adopt a children
Qt Core: i feel like it is the opposite, but maybe i have a different definition of heart ;-)
Moon Fargis: as many are aso children in sl and searching for parents
Moon Fargis: (ofcourse they are adult)
Moon Fargis: (but play as children)
Stargate Tone: Qt may I ask what 'opposite' you mean ?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: many as children are simply playing out their own childhood dramas to see what they can see, too.
Moon Fargis: yes
Qt Core: that is the mind that discover the heart faults
Moon Fargis: they try to have a better childhood here than they had
Stargate Tone: also they can live 'un leaved childhood' :)***
Stargate Tone: ah...o.k.....
Moon Fargis: but many also leave their inner child out and are playfull :)
Qt Core: just a way to forget daily problems
Stargate Tone: well; is there gone by 4getting ?
Stargate Tone: ...and yes; also the physcal heart 'speaks' the same language than the 'spiritual' heart; that's why many ppl have heart probs...
Qt Core: maybe forgetting wasn't the right term, pushing them aside for some time
Stargate Tone: I understand what you mean; but that's the desicion too...if to listen to heart or deside to 'close it's mouth'
Stargate Tone: ah...only little facts in life
Martinlau Rae: I still have no purpose or objective in "playing" SL, that's why i said i feel hard to be here, moon
Stargate Tone: as surely nobody is ment to suffer for each persons sufferings.....
Stargate Tone: ah...well..what brought you to log in ?
Stargate Tone: (logged in knowing that I'll work in SL)
Moon Fargis: martin: ahh sl is no play
Moon Fargis: just be as you are
Moon Fargis: but you can be playfull
Martinlau Rae: i log in for expriencing wt SL is as wt the book ask me to do
Stargate Tone: ah yes; many ppl imagine SL to be a game...and they do here things they wouldn't do in RL...
Stargate Tone: ah; understand
Stargate Tone: well; I'de say that you did listen to your heart following the advise of that book
Qt Core: you should visit marketplace and advertising/marketing sim and group then
Qt Core: there are a lot of them
Stargate Tone: and yes; you may compare SL to traveling too
Stargate Tone: and the good saying is that it expands mind :)***
Stargate Tone: traveling I mean
Stargate Tone: so....in case your mind seeks more reasons...maybe that's not the good way to think....
Moon Fargis: is there a hitchhikers guide to sl ?:)
Martinlau Rae: i realise there is many information available here, however, i felt perplexed in finding such information or like you said traveling in SL world
Stargate Tone: notice my 'maybe'
Qt Core: just use the search function for specific terms or just do some "random" teleporting using the map
Stargate Tone: ...each doing can lead to the adwenture...the more easy that happenes in SL than in Rl
Martinlau Rae: i have been using this function since i opened this account, i saw different types of building, map here, but mostly without even a person, that's what i meant the world here isn't match the description of my book
Qt Core: i think media always tell you the total number of subscriber not the number of actually logged in people
Stargate Tone: ah; you got the 'pic' that there would be ppl all over ?
Qt Core: just search for the green dots ;-)
Moon Fargis: yes :)
Stargate Tone: well; there's many very empty sims...
Moon Fargis: lots of sims are private
Stargate Tone: cuz there's so huge many worlds in SL
Stargate Tone: well...I have 'world' on three different sims...
Qt Core: i never random teleport myself in void sim, i'm here in sl for the people, not the (nice) pixels
Moon Fargis: heres one you might want to look at if you search some mindfull rest
Stargate Tone: and you can also use the search to get to know the groups
Stargate Tone: huge many different kind of groups in SL; huge many
Stargate Tone: some are to only to have fun; having club or clubs
Stargate Tone: beautiful dancing places too
Stargate Tone: as well serious groups for different interest
Stargate Tone: there's also guidence of the most popular events and so...there's much ppl present
Corvuscorva Nightfire: my technique for finding groups is looking at people's profiles..i go to places like metanomics and snoop profiles.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: until i find somehting interesting.
Qt Core: some even too serious ;-)
Stargate Tone: agree Qt
Martinlau Rae: yes, i know, there is a large volume of various groups here, but i can't find a way to be a part of such group.
Stargate Tone: but....as well as it's in RL :)
Stargate Tone: ah; many are just to click the 'join' and then U'll get the information of the meetings
Martinlau Rae: i feel more easier to speak in Rl rather than in SL
Stargate Tone: as the matter in fact is, that no matter what kind of group; there's always different kind of people to meet
Moon Fargis: ah intresting, most feel more easy to speak in sl than rl
Stargate Tone: surprised me too :)*
Moon Fargis: cus in rl you have to face the one youre talking too
Moon Fargis: look in his eyes
Moon Fargis: dont have time to think about
Moon Fargis: in sl you can choose your words wise with lots of thinkingtime
Stargate Tone: btw; in PaB meeting one can surely also be quiet and listen to what others are speaking....
Stargate Tone: as well as in most of the groups meetings
Stargate Tone: ah yes...if Ur not too quick fingered :)
Stargate Tone: well...sometimes it sure can be hard to follow the lines....
Qt Core: or quick with your english too
Qt Core: ;-)
Stargate Tone: yea
Stargate Tone: hi Bauke
Susi Alcott: Hi Bauke
Bauke Clowes: Hallo.
Stargate Tone: ok
Moon Fargis: tach auch
Moon Fargis: bitte keine waffen :)
Stargate Tone: outch
Martinlau Rae: since my first language isnt english, so i sometime feel shy to chat in SL
Bauke Clowes: Ik kom jullie neerknallen
Bauke Clowes: Ow
Bauke Clowes: kan niet
Bauke Clowes: xD
Stargate Tone: ah; hoping U'de to free Urself at least here in PaB meeting
Martinlau Rae: what's that?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Martin, your english is just fine.
Stargate Tone: well...at least I felt bad for that
Moon Fargis: noobs
Stargate Tone: but....he/she was somebody trying to free his/her agressive feelings...
Corvuscorva Nightfire: and..well...not everyone in sl speaks english
Corvuscorva Nightfire: thank goodness.
Stargate Tone: so...now You saw something of them bad experiencies one can get in SL easily where ever
Stargate Tone: but...can also see that nothing genuin bad happened to us here....but maybe that person got rid of some bad feelings...(althought I dont believe so...as they are other kind of games for that; not desturbing genuin persons behind the pc, but images)
Stargate Tone: ...seen so many ppl to play at fist...they all have found the truth that it's no game....
Qt Core: english isn't my first language neither, but instead of being a limit it free myself from some "autocensure" i sometimes do to myself in my own language
Stargate Tone: but real living with other people
Stargate Tone: and yes; I've taken that it can be the treasure of communication; not to take it to be obvious that oneself has understood right the meaning of the other persons words
Stargate Tone: ...ot use voice; that gives more possibilities to understand and to be understood....but many ppl dont want that cuz of using the opposite gender...
Stargate Tone: and...well...thinking that the gender is not relevant having conversations 'only'
Qt Core: and non native english speakers usually are far better in text than in voice
Stargate Tone: agree
Stargate Tone: one of my friend from Argentina said, that it's always new learning to speak with 'new' person
Stargate Tone: cuz of the way to pronounce
Stargate Tone: but it's also kind of charachter; other ppl prefere write than speak
Qt Core: yes it is nice to hear good english... and i'm scared by my own when i listen to it echoed from others
Qt Core: ;-)
Stargate Tone: ah...not all of the people wanna hear own voice...specially them ppl want, who are singers and so...
Stargate Tone: so that's one of them reasons that all dont use voice even if coul
Stargate Tone: could
Qt Core: it is not my voice, it is my awful accent that scare me
Stargate Tone: (I lost voice for new needed system in my pc; am sad for that)
Stargate Tone: ah
Stargate Tone: well...to me; different accent are interested 'thing'
Stargate Tone: and I believe I'm not the only one
Qt Core: many say it to me, but for my is just wrong (i don't have problem with light accents but mine is tick)
Moon Fargis: well in chat there are normally no accents
Moon Fargis: so be happy :)
Qt Core: ;-)
Stargate Tone: ***<3<3<3***
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Qt Core: and there is even backspace to right spelling errors (if you catch them)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Moon has one, though. He speaks with a teddy bear accent.
Moon Fargis: *mumblegrumble*
Moon Fargis: ^^
Qt Core: time to go
Moon Fargis: ok see you qt
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Qt Core: bye all
Stargate Tone: see you Qt
Martinlau Rae: 8
Stargate Tone: ah; would you mind to tell about ur '8'; to me it's the No of my called upstairs office....(my 'religion')
Stargate Tone: but is't also a symbol of eternall friend...
Martinlau Rae: not a number, since i just saw that Qt is going to leave, i have to time to type bye,so i type 8 to replace it
Stargate Tone: **
Martinlau Rae: i have no time<
Stargate Tone: ** = 'got it'; understood
Stargate Tone: still was nice to see Ur mind to pick that No :)***
Moon Fargis: well 8 is a look so you have endlesstime :)
Stargate Tone: yes
Moon Fargis: lop
Moon Fargis: loop
Moon Fargis: binng
Moon Fargis: *giggles*
Stargate Tone: _/!\_
Martinlau Rae: could you mind to tell me wt's ur interest?
Stargate Tone: all
Stargate Tone: all possible
Martinlau Rae: and moon?
Moon Fargis: hmm well mostly zen buddhism, buddhiams and art
Moon Fargis: building
Moon Fargis: candy
Moon Fargis: ^_^ *Nahm Nahm Nahm!* ^_^
Stargate Tone: smiles *
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i like role playing, writing, and finding out about people.
Stargate Tone: (Moon's special food)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: Moon bears live on candy.
Stargate Tone: **
Stargate Tone: what are Ur interests ?
Martinlau Rae: o..buddhiams, you have read some stuff related to it?
Susi Alcott: Hi Van
Stargate Tone: Hello Van; pls behave
Corvuscorva Nightfire laughs
Moon Fargis: yes better dress yourself
Moon Fargis: well yes that also happens
Stargate Tone: (takes it to be interest that there's both kind of griefes appeard here now; meaning the behaving with AV)
Moon Fargis: well they all wanted to show martin the other side of sl
Moon Fargis: sex, weapons ad rocknroll
Stargate Tone: (Moon has his own meditation events and babbling after that)
Stargate Tone: seems so
Martinlau Rae: i have seen it before, that's one of the factors that made me feel unplesant here
Martinlau Rae: unpleasant
Stargate Tone: ah yes Martin; I have strong belief that also in SL ppl have the 'habbit' to 'run' into the situations with which they meet there fears and wishes...that also more easier than in RL)
Stargate Tone: very understandable
Stargate Tone: (still felt bad even seen this now and then)
Stargate Tone: (but that's cuz I take them ppl to have problems within themself)
Moon Fargis: well thats happen in all onlineworlds that there are children
Moon Fargis: who just are there to gref
Moon Fargis: grief
Martinlau Rae: moon, can i ask you a question about buddhiams?
Moon Fargis: sure
Moon Fargis: buddhims
Moon Fargis: hms
Moon Fargis: ok
Moon Fargis: buddhism
Moon Fargis: beng
Moon Fargis: i should stop writing when i am tred
Martinlau Rae: is that all being in the world should have a fair-right in choosing their life?
Moon Fargis: ofcourse
Stargate Tone: that right is to all....but not so many can make it to come genuinly true ...yet....
Martinlau Rae: why human have such right to eat another creature?
Stargate Tone: but that's cuz most of the people still are too much children; not having understanding
Stargate Tone: well ; not only human have that right
Stargate Tone: and...well::there's many life forms that eats human being...
Moon Fargis: martin: at the end its your desission
Stargate Tone: even kill human beings
Moon Fargis: your free will to eat meat or not
Martinlau Rae: i feel angry as i listened my friend said pigs are born as a food to human.
Moon Fargis: well understandable
Moon Fargis: answer him, humans are born to feed the worms in the grave where they lie becasue they died of a heartattack cus of too much fat in their veins... at the end humans are same meat as pigs, we discussed the meaning f life yesterday, as i said "the meaning of life is how much worth you give into it"
Moon Fargis: and not just your life
Stargate Tone: well; can understand your friends mind too; I thank for them animals who's given possibility to my food to exist
Moon Fargis: al other lifes too
Martinlau Rae: i have spent an hour to argue with him, he bring up a point that i have no way to argue, that's how about vegetable you ate
Stargate Tone: well...many ppl eat raw carrot; so ; that's to eat living existence....
Moon Fargis: ahthe classical "but you kill plants to by eating them" discussion
Moon Fargis: at the end, its your morality, i also eat meat
Moon Fargis: but i take care
Moon Fargis: that when i eat it shall be from such that had a live wich should ment for them, not put into a small cage and used as food
Moon Fargis: i also take care about that with the veggies
Moon Fargis: that they coming from such farms where they grown naturally up
Moon Fargis: ah seems i have to be afk for a few mins
Moon Fargis: maybe 10
Moon Fargis: if we dont see us, have a nice day
Martinlau Rae: thanks for ur saying, it does useful
Moon Fargis: (we cant avoid kill, we can avoid doint it by intention)
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i think, too, the thing about killing is about our own intention.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i don't eat animals.
Stargate Tone: also to take care of the weaker ones....
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i don't even eat fish or bugs.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: because i know what it does to ME to kill them.
Martinlau Rae: dont even chicken?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i have to cut out a part of my sympathy to do so.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: nope
Corvuscorva Nightfire: not even chicken
Stargate Tone: hm
Stargate Tone: Corvi; do you judge us who eat also meat ?
Corvuscorva Nightfire: no, not at all.
Corvuscorva Nightfire: it's for me that i chose that
Stargate Tone: wanted to bring that out :)****
Martinlau Rae: may i ask where do you live in RL?
Stargate Tone: in Finland
Susi Alcott: in Finland
Martinlau Rae: finland?
Martinlau Rae: where is it?
Stargate Tone: lol
Stargate Tone: Ur the first one to ask, but I know it's not so well known around the world;
Stargate Tone: small country up on North Europe; between Sweden and Russia
Stargate Tone: small nation; ab 5 million ppl; including all nations which do live here; moved from south and so
Martinlau Rae: ok= =i do have no much knowledge about the geography
Stargate Tone: dont worry; Ur not at all the only one :)
Stargate Tone: hearts
Martinlau Rae: and i live in a even smaller city, hong kong
Stargate Tone: well; that amount I told is whole nation of the country :)***
Stargate Tone: not a city :)*
Martinlau Rae: in a real world, i am a person that always try to improve myself in different way
Martinlau Rae: yes i know that, but where i live is just a city= =
Stargate Tone: **
Stargate Tone: know about Hong Kong :)*
Stargate Tone: well; each one has own path; that is unic
Stargate Tone: nobody gets birth alone
Stargate Tone: nobody grow alone
Stargate Tone: nobody can controll even them events of own life....
Martinlau Rae: true
Corvuscorva Nightfire: oh..it's time for me to go...*puts the teddy bear gently down on the mat*
Corvuscorva Nightfire: i will see ya'll soon!
Stargate Tone: smiles *
Martinlau Rae: see you then
Stargate Tone: ..yes...it alwasy 'makes a hole' when some loving person needs to leave....
Martinlau Rae: it nice to have a chat with you all, typically, when will you login Sl?
Stargate Tone: well,,,as there's no time within me....
Stargate Tone: depends of when I'm needed to for any reason I feel in my heart
Stargate Tone: but yes; being online much for different missions
Martinlau Rae: oh, i get it
Stargate Tone: but these PaB meetings are always at 1 and 7 hours SL time
Moon Fargis: rehi
Stargate Tone: and there's almost always some guardian present
Stargate Tone: it's the 'spirit' of PaB
Moon Fargis: 1 am 7am 1pm 7pm
Stargate Tone: welcome back Moon
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Moon Fargis: hms asome customer got a problem with my ballons i sell..
Moon Fargis: ok solved:)
Stargate Tone: good *
Moon Fargis: martin: you also can make money in sl
Moon Fargis: when you have building or scripting skills
Stargate Tone: hm...but that's also depended on many things; just like in RL
Martinlau Rae: um...i think i won't do it, i am here for meeting different person globally, I have no such intention to make money here
Stargate Tone: know many artists that has made beautiful things, but never sold anything even tried for a year
Susi Alcott: have good time all
Susi Alcott: _/!\_
Moon Fargis: see you susi
Moon Fargis: hehe long long pab session today