2009.04.25 13:00 - Time, books and summer plans

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    Wol Euler logged this session for Pema, and might even comment it tomorrow - unless someone else gets there first.


    Mickorod Renard: hi scath

    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Mick

    Mickorod Renard: quiet tonite

    Scathach Rhiadra: yes I only came here because I saw noone else on the map

    Mickorod Renard: he he he

    Mickorod Renard: I suspect ara will come soon

    Scathach Rhiadra: is she goc?

    Mickorod Renard: no

    Mickorod Renard: she is too busy to take on responsibilities

    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Wol

    Wol Euler: hello mick, ara, scath

    Mickorod Renard: Hiya wol

    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Ara

    Mickorod Renard: hiya ara

    arabella Ella: hiya Scath Wol Mick

    Wol Euler thinks "Well, this will be a short log for whoever's posting it."

    Mickorod Renard: I thought last nights phenem was interesting

    Wol Euler: say more, Mick?

    Mickorod Renard: eeeek

    Mickorod Renard: well,,regarding filters

    arabella Ella: how r u all today?

    arabella Ella: chat lag ... sorry

    Mickorod Renard: most of what we do here and at kira seem to be linked

    Scathach Rhiadra: yes you can forget which workshop you are at:)

    Mickorod Renard: I do,,often

    Mickorod Renard: but i can see it all comming together one day

    Mickorod Renard: coming

    Mickorod Renard: where when we sort out whats what they will all slot in together

    Mickorod Renard: and Stims class too

    Scathach Rhiadra: could be

    Wol Euler: the PaB Great Big Theory Of Everything.

    Mickorod Renard: yes

    arabella Ella: 42?

    Scathach Rhiadra: heh:)

    Wol Euler: that's the one!

    arabella Ella: i just got back home from italy today

    Mickorod Renard: whats the theory behind 42?

    arabella Ella: and was sightseeing this morning as i was free

    Mickorod Renard: nice

    arabella Ella: and was amazed at how i noticed things i would not normally notice

    Wol Euler: Douglas Adams' "Hitchhiker" series

    Scathach Rhiadra: if we only knew the right question to ask we might understand the answer

    arabella Ella: as a result of what we do here

    Mickorod Renard: did u do some ABA

    arabella Ella: yes

    Mickorod Renard: cool

    Wol Euler: nice, ara.

    Mickorod Renard: I have never read it

    Wol Euler: oh, you've missed a treat :)

    Wol Euler: well, for a certain kind of sense of humour...

    Mickorod Renard: well,,I have a long list of books I need to read

    arabella Ella: I am reading Snow Crash and enjoying the experience

    Mickorod Renard: thats cool ara

    arabella Ella smiles

    arabella Ella: one experience i had in bologna where i was in italy

    Scathach Rhiadra: is that about virtual worlds?

    Mickorod Renard: yes?

    arabella Ella: was watching swallows at dusk ... hundreds of them ... flitting over the rooftops

    arabella Ella: yes it is about the metaverse

    Mickorod Renard: yes,,a neal stephenson

    Mickorod Renard: wow,,nice

    Scathach Rhiadra: ty, I must read that, have heard of it:0

    Mickorod Renard: they can be mesmerising

    arabella Ella: i would recommend it to anyone who enjoys SL

    Mickorod Renard: the swallows

    Wol Euler: yes, it's also a brilliant and seminal work

    Mickorod Renard: I like all his works so far

    Mickorod Renard: although some are hard to get into

    arabella Ella: he sure has vision

    Mickorod Renard: I have his latest one,,Anatheum

    arabella Ella: is it good too?

    Mickorod Renard: I am just at the beginning

    arabella Ella: ok

    Mickorod Renard: but typically his

    Mickorod Renard: have you got Stims WOK book?>

    Scathach Rhiadra: no, I must order that

    Mickorod Renard: i keep meaning to look it up on net

    Mickorod Renard: Eliza was on about it last night

    Scathach Rhiadra: yes it seems to be very good

    Mickorod Renard: you know , i had a little glimpse of what its like to see diferently,about a couple of years ago

    Mickorod Renard: but after a glipse i realized i needed something to make sense of it all

    Mickorod Renard: something like a package

    arabella Ella listens intently

    Mickorod Renard: and as fate often draws things together i ended up here

    arabella Ella: yes

    Mickorod Renard: hopefully between all what goes on here i will be enlightened

    Scathach Rhiadra: :)

    arabella Ella: i am sure you will be mick

    arabella Ella: another thing in bologna

    Mickorod Renard: yes?

    arabella Ella: i was more sensitive to the italian cobblestones

    arabella Ella: their size shape feel

    Mickorod Renard: why was that u suppose?

    arabella Ella: and the intricacy of all the carvings on all the palazzos

    Mickorod Renard: yes,,u can pass so much without noticing

    arabella Ella: yes

    Mickorod Renard: its a lovely feeling to have the time to take notixce

    Mickorod Renard: Hi Random

    arabella Ella: it is such an ancient town i nearly felt the spirits all over the place

    arabella Ella: Hiya Random

    arabella Ella: would you like to join us?

    Random: hi

    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Random

    arabella Ella: bye Random :)

    Scathach Rhiadra: goodbye Random

    Mickorod Renard: you have scared him off Scath

    Scathach Rhiadra: heehee

    Wol Euler: saved some time, perhaps?

    Wol Euler: insofar as time exists to be saved, of coruse...

    Scathach Rhiadra: :)

    Mickorod Renard: savoured?

    arabella Ella: can we save zeroth time i wonder

    Wol Euler: perhaps it saves us?

    arabella Ella: hope so

    Mickorod Renard: time devours us

    arabella Ella: it is strange how we anthropomrphise time ... not sure re spelling there

    arabella Ella: we make time sound like it is a person

    arabella Ella: a being

    Scathach Rhiadra nods

    Mickorod Renard: maybe it is,,and we measure it by how quick it eats us up

    arabella Ella: augustine has some interesting essays on time in his confessions ... must find time to re read those

    Scathach Rhiadra: ah someone is sitting on the unfortunate yak

    Mickorod Renard: what about st thomas aquinas?

    arabella Ella: i dont think thomas wrote about time

    arabella Ella: not sure

    Mickorod Renard: thats a shame..i like him

    arabella Ella: he had a brilliant mind

    Mickorod Renard: I feel I can understand him

    Mickorod Renard: oops

    arabella Ella: shhhhh

    Mickorod Renard: ;-(

    arabella Ella: so Wol and Scath are you thinking of going on the PaB retreat?

    Scathach Rhiadra: no not me

    arabella Ella: I cant make it either ... too far

    arabella Ella: would love to though

    Wol Euler: I'd love to go, but no.

    Mickorod Renard: nor me

    arabella Ella: oh

    arabella Ella: it is a bit more difficult for those of us in europe i guess

    Wol Euler: I am invited to a wedding in Milwaukee in early July, and can neither cross the Atlantic twice nor spend six weeks in the US

    arabella Ella: yes of course ... although the wedding sounds lovely

    Mickorod Renard: home of the harley davidson

    arabella Ella: cool

    Wol Euler: yeah, I'm really looking forward to it. Two people who met in SL, marrying in RL

    Scathach Rhiadra: yes the wedding should be very nice

    Wol Euler: with laptops :)

    arabella Ella: really?

    arabella Ella: that sounds fantastic

    Wol Euler: yep, they met here about 18 months ago, met in RL six months after that, moved together three months ago

    Mickorod Renard: wow

    Scathach Rhiadra: :)

    Wol Euler: pretty wonderful/amazing

    arabella Ella: how lovely

    Mickorod Renard: they had a program on uk television last year showing similar things that go on in sl

    arabella Ella: yes it is now on you tube too

    Mickorod Renard: they only sensationalised the ,,,,strange things

    arabella Ella: yes

    Mickorod Renard: like rl marriage break ups

    Wol Euler: of course. You can't sell advertising on a program that says "people use SL to sit around and talk about meditation"

    Mickorod Renard: due to sl

    Mickorod Renard: yes,,who was it who said ,,all publicity is good publicity?

    Mickorod Renard: or was it the other way around

    Mickorod Renard: no such thing as bad publicity

    Wol Euler: well ... I disagree

    arabella Ella: so Wol have you already met the couple who are getting married ... in RL I mean?

    Wol Euler: publicity which distorts the nature of what it "reports" on, is bad.

    Mickorod Renard: i have to admit that i dont want to tell my work collegues i come on sl so much

    Wol Euler: no, I haven't met any of the yet. Seen a few RL photos but most of us don't know th others in RL

    arabella Ella: media distorts quite often

    arabella Ella: wow cool

    Wol Euler: (we're making a kind of conference of it :)

    Mickorod Renard: sounds exciting

    arabella Ella: so it must be really exciting to meet them for the first time

    arabella Ella: ooops shhhhhh

    Wol Euler: yes, it'll be very interesting to see if one can identify the Rl flesh-av by listening for a personality one knows

    Scathach Rhiadra nods

    Mickorod Renard: he he he

    arabella Ella: i have met a few ppl in RL who i met on SL

    Mickorod Renard: i went to a sl wedding other day

    Wol Euler: we're going to have nametags and lanyards, with our SL identities on them :)

    Mickorod Renard: wowwww

    arabella Ella: and it is lovely i find to first get to know the real person ... then the RL image later

    Mickorod Renard: I was supprised how many at the sl wedding were on voice

    Mickorod Renard: suprised

    Scathach Rhiadra: you probably know the real personalities better than if you had first met in RL

    Wol Euler: very possibly :)

    Mickorod Renard: I get that feeling too

    arabella Ella: yes it is a very different way of getting to know ppl i find with no distraction from the RL image

    Wol Euler: it's possible that I might never have "met" some of them in RL, just wouldn't have spoken to them or they to me.

    arabella Ella: it involves different forms of judgement of character

    Wol Euler: difference of age, class, style ... and handicap

    arabella Ella: exactly

    arabella Ella: normally the RL image is what we first assess when we meet someone new

    arabella Ella: then we get to know the person

    Wol Euler nods

    arabella Ella: and our first assessment may change

    arabella Ella: in SL i find it is the other way around

    arabella Ella: altho there are always surprises in store :)

    Scathach Rhiadra: are there many guests flying in from different parts of the world?

    Wol Euler: most are Americans, but yes, three Germans and one from UK

    Mickorod Renard: i have read several scientific papers that do outline that physical attraction is important in like a genetic way

    Wol Euler: (counting myself as German for these purposes)

    Scathach Rhiadra: ah so real friendship:)

    Wol Euler: well, yse, scath: very real. I know them very well, just not their bodies.

    Scathach Rhiadra nods

    Scathach Rhiadra: better than in RL:)

    Wol Euler: I've met anonymous blogging buddies in RL before, I expect it will be a bit like that.

    Wol Euler: a mixture of new/unknown and old/very well known

    arabella Ella: yes

    Wol Euler: I expect that the flesh av will be as ignorable as people's choice of av here is.

    Wol Euler: Ade is Ade to me, whether she's a lion or a human or a bird

    arabella Ella: exactly

    Scathach Rhiadra nods

    arabella Ella: fraid i must go now

    arabella Ella: nite all

    Mickorod Renard: ok ladies,,i must head home

    arabella Ella: seems like we are all in europe here today :)

    Scathach Rhiadra: good night Ara

    Mickorod Renard: me too,,nite aRA

    Wol Euler: 'night ara, mick. Enjoy your sundays

    Scathach Rhiadra: me too, good night Mick, Wol

    Mickorod Renard: NITE,,AND YOU

    Wol Euler: bye scath, goodnight

    Wol Euler: I wonder who was goc?

    Scathach Rhiadra: I think Pema still is

    Wol Euler: I'll post it, since I claimed it.

    Scathach Rhiadra: yes I had two already today

    Scathach Rhiadra: Namaste

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: bye,, take care

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