2009.05.04 07:00 - The Better To See You With My Dear

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    A visit with a big wolf and other friends --- your palpal, KalCal


    Ferocious Melody: Morning Kallie :)
    Kallie Kira: hi :)
    Kallie Kira: how are you?
    Ferocious Melody: Well, yourself?
    Kallie Kira: excellent!
    Ferocious Melody: :)
    Kallie Kira: I like your avatar
    Ferocious Melody: Thank you very much. She's fun to play in
    Kallie Kira: you are the largest wolf I have seen
    Ferocious Melody: Yes, me too! I hadn't meant to go as large as this, but now I'm happy that I did. :))
    Kallie Kira: alpha wolf :)
    Ferocious Melody: hehe
    Ferocious Melody: I'm quite gentle....
    Kallie Kira is thankful
    Ferocious Melody: very much a Go With The Flow type of ferociousness.
    Kallie Kira: :) sure, ferocious doesn't equal mean, it can equal intense, 100% :)
    Ferocious Melody: Yes! Roar
    Kallie Kira: maybe I should be an animal for a while
    Kallie Kira: or a tiny
    Kallie Kira: I wonder if there are teeny tineys :)
    Ferocious Melody: I'm not sure!!


    Ferocious Melody: I went shopping this morning with an alternate AV (a male) and was just too frustrated....so the dog/wolf, well she can just BE! :) A relief!
    Kallie Kira: yes, maybe more freedom
    Kallie Kira: I've been over to grendels, there is so much lag I can't even move, much less shop
    Ferocious Melody nods. Even more so the last few days...not sure what is going on with SL
    Kallie Kira: how do you mean? flakey lately? haven't logged in since Friday for very long
    Ferocious Melody: Ah, yes very flaky. For instance I'll have one person who shows up on the friends' list, and yet I'll see many sign on and off...
    Ferocious Melody: and then at other times I walk through walls and get stuck... usually that doesn't happen
    Kallie Kira: has your im to email been off? I was wondering about that
    Ferocious Melody: And I spoke with others who said the same thing..
    Kallie Kira: by off I mean not working correctly
    Ferocious Melody: No the IM is fine...just oddities...invisible people, showing only hair sitting...
    Kallie Kira: lol on the hair
    Ferocious Melody: Yes!
    Kallie Kira: when I first started sl my hair would show like it was attached to my butt
    Kallie Kira: super annoying
    Ferocious Melody: I imagine so


    Ferocious Melody: I was reading the logs earlier this morning ...
    Ferocious Melody: Had so many thoughts...
    Ferocious Melody: But then signed on as Ferocious and nada. Heheheh
    Ferocious Melody: Dog Nature
    Kallie Kira: hmmm, maybe a sleight of hand to drop the stories :)
    Ferocious Melody: Maybe.... now I just want to lay around
    Kallie Kira: LOL
    Kallie Kira wishes she had an anim for wolf belly rub :)
    Ferocious Melody: Yes, someone should design such a thing!
    Kallie Kira: you looked so cute lying on your back .... such a happy wolf :)
    Ferocious Melody: :)) Not a care or concern


    Ferocious Melody: Hello Scathach :)
    Kallie Kira: hi Scathach :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Kallie, Fero:)
    Kallie Kira: how are you?
    Scathach Rhiadra: fine, and you?
    Kallie Kira: great!


    Kallie Kira: have you been paying your pab taxes? :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: oh, mostly yes:)
    Scathach Rhiadra: sometimes it is difficult
    Kallie Kira: I notice I have a couple different tax brackets
    Kallie Kira: how do you mean?
    Scathach Rhiadra: well in meeting at work, can't really stop
    Scathach Rhiadra: and sometimes get so tiedinto what I am doing, I forget to stop
    Kallie Kira: sure, easy to get so wrapped up that stopping gets left out
    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, I like the 90 seconds stops here
    Kallie Kira: yes, a guarantee of 3 good ones :)
    Ferocious Melody: Often it isn't until I feel pressure in some way that I notice I haven't stopped. I'll feel the crinkling between my eyes and remember
    Scathach Rhiadra nods:)


    Ferocious Melody: Hi Genesis
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Gen
    Kallie Kira: hi gen :)
    genesis Zhangsun: Hey!
    Kallie Kira: good morning, how are you? still sleepy?
    genesis Zhangsun: ummhum
    Kallie Kira: we were talking about stopping, remembering to stop
    genesis Zhangsun: thats a great topic
    genesis Zhangsun: I intended to make my last scribe essay all about this but got sidetracked
    genesis Zhangsun: have to return to it some time
    Kallie Kira: lol, irony :)
    genesis Zhangsun: yeah exactly I have to just stop to write about just stopping
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Kallie Kira: hey you!! stop!!!
    Ferocious Melody: To dwell on stopping...funny thought


    Kallie Kira: do you guys notice you have different types of stopping?
    Ferocious Melody: :)
    Kallie Kira: or, maybe better, different ways of stopping?
    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, maybe
    Kallie Kira: uhhh, not quite getting in words right, maybe different experiential forms of stopping?
    Kallie Kira: ok, maybe an example
    Kallie Kira: lol
    Ferocious Melody: :)
    Kallie Kira: for me.... here's a couple of examples,.... I can stop in mid-work, or at the 90sec bell and take some breaths, let go of my stories and streams of info .... like that
    Kallie Kira: or another way is when I'm doing something like gardening for example, I have no stories, just digging or watering ....
    Kallie Kira: or another way is when at rest, breathing, relaxing and then, .... I'm somewhere, nowhere, elsewhere I guess and then I'm back ...
    Kallie Kira: do things like that happen for you?


    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, I get the feeking that when I am really occupied with something, either thinking or doing, and when I stop then, it feels more like really stoppng and dropping, if that makes sense
    Scathach Rhiadra: maybe a bigger difference than when I am already relaxed when stopping?
    Ferocious Melody: yes that makes sense
    Kallie Kira: so the stopping feels more stopped, more significant if you stop when you are busy?
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes I think so
    Kallie Kira: (gen looks very sleepy indeed :) )
    Ferocious Melody: I relate to there being ways of doing things in which whatever you are doing becomes a tool for that stopping. Seems to be very natural at the time and yet takes purposefulness to get into that place/mindset.
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Ferocious Melody: hehe
    Scathach Rhiadra nods
    genesis Zhangsun: sorry
    genesis Zhangsun: back


    Kallie Kira: do you experience that you can just go into that space without a purpose, without doing it purposely?
    Scathach Rhiadra: like slipping into mindfulness
    Ferocious Melody: Notice it afterward? Sometimes...yes, Slipping into mindfulness. MM
    genesis Zhangsun: sounds yummy
    genesis Zhangsun: like day dreaming
    genesis Zhangsun: but the opposite
    Kallie Kira: a little bit gen .... it's not so much a scheduled thing or ok, now I'm going to do the stopping ..... not that kind of space I'm trying to describe
    Kallie Kira: not daydreaming like the definition of idleness but similar to how daydreaming starts .... that it softly happens on it's own
    Kallie Kira: and you notice it when it's done


    Ferocious Melody: It seems to be a by-product of daily mindfulness practice. It is like you show an intention toward that place...and then it responds when you aren't making effort
    Ferocious Melody: Like you bring a friend flowers one day, and then months later they show up on your doorstep with a cake
    Ferocious Melody: hhehe
    Ferocious Melody: Or maybe that's not the best analogy, but it is along the lines
    Kallie Kira: mmm, yes, an intention to acknowledge that possibility but it does not require trying
    Kallie Kira: does not require trying or doingness
    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, dropping or letting go the desire is freeing
    Scathach Rhiadra: liberating*
    Ferocious Melody: just keeping a place open
    Ferocious Melody nods


    Ferocious Melody: My son (10) is home today... he is reading the SL guide and is going to help me learn to build a few things later - hehe.
    Ferocious Melody: Before then I've things to do so should get going :)
    Kallie Kira: ok, me too
    Scathach Rhiadra: nice:)
    Ferocious Melody: Yes...he loves Ferocious
    Kallie Kira: nice to see you both, think gen has popped off :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: about your son:)
    Kallie Kira: say bye to Little Wolf :)
    Kallie Kira: I'll go on record to say,..... love the autologger!!!
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes it is nice to see you both, I am not usually here at this time:)
    Ferocious Melody: :) Okay. Thanks for the nice chat this morning Kallie, Scath, (and Gen) :)
    genesis Zhangsun: crashed
    Kallie Kira: wb :)
    Kallie Kira: we're taking off
    genesis Zhangsun: bye Ferocious
    Ferocious Melody: Bye :)
    genesis Zhangsun: okay see you later
    Kallie Kira: bye :)
    Scathach Rhiadra: wb and bye, namaste all:)
    genesis Zhangsun: bye Kallie, bye Scathach

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