2009.05.14 01:00 - Sisu

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Fael Illyar. The comments are by Fael Illyar.

    The meeting started slow but then Susi arrived and some time later Pema as well.

    Fael Illyar: Hi Susi :)
    Susi Alcott: Hi Fael
    Susi Alcott: sry I'm late
    Fael Illyar: That's ok, gave me time to get my breakfast ready :)
    Susi Alcott: lol
    Fael Illyar: It's pretty silent 1AM meeting again today it appears.
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Fael Illyar: Hi Pema :)
    Susi Alcott: Hi Pema
    Pema Pera: Hi Susi and Fael!
    Fael Illyar: Good evening to Japan :)
    Pema Pera: And Good morning in Finland!
    Fael Illyar smiles.
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Pema Pera: Has spring arrived in Helsinki?
    Fael Illyar: Looks more like summer already :)
    Pema Pera: oh, that's nice!
    Susi Alcott: in Turku we have not spring; summer hits after winter
    Fael Illyar: :)
    Pema Pera: In Princeton we often have the same: a direct transition from winter to summer . . .
    Fael Illyar: It's quite interesting :)
    Fael Illyar: I've been remembering my visit from time to time :)
    Fael Illyar: It really is a nice place there.
    Pema Pera: yes, you came in a nice time of year, the best time really -- fall is always pleasant in Princeton
    Pema Pera: summers are humid and too hot to be comfortable, and winters a bit too cold, mostly -- but perhaps not for you :)
    Fael Illyar is used to winters where the usual temperature is around -20℃
    Susi Alcott: many finnish ppl suffer for winter...
    Fael Illyar: anything milder and it just feels warm :)
    Pema Pera: do you think that that is related to the great interest in internet and general IT activities in Finland?
    Susi Alcott: also the most hot time on July as it's been late years
    Pema Pera: the long dark winters
    Fael Illyar: could very well be :)
    Susi Alcott: well; thinking that finnish ppl are specially curious
    Susi Alcott: and more than willing to test and learn
    Fael Illyar: I prefer staying inside the house during winter at least :)
    Pema Pera: that's interesting, Susi, why do you think that is?
    Susi Alcott: my french friend, who's teacher, told that in Finland there's the best learning in schools
    Susi Alcott: well; observed much
    Susi Alcott: but we sadly have much 'brain lost' cuz them ppl move abroad
    Susi Alcott: as Finland is expensive country and not so good payments that on many other counties
    Susi Alcott: we are so small nation
    Susi Alcott: but yes; like children; willing to test 'everthing'
    Susi Alcott: and there's even such word that nobody has been able to translate to any lanugage
    Susi Alcott: 'sisu'
    Fael Illyar: and big taxes on top of that.
    Susi Alcott: yet
    Susi Alcott: yes
    Pema Pera: sisu?
    Susi Alcott: in english that would be something like ppl use to say that somebody has 'balls'
    Pema Pera: :)
    Susi Alcott: but that's so mild word
    Pema Pera: a bit like macho?
    Fael Illyar: no, not macho
    Susi Alcott: npe
    Susi Alcott: nope
    Susi Alcott: well; try to 'explane'
    Susi Alcott: we are willing to stand on our own feet against even the whole wide world
    Susi Alcott: but not the goverment we have chooced
    Pema Pera: ah, that gives me some sense
    Susi Alcott: and we prefer die that to be the slave
    Susi Alcott: we fight against hard nature, but we love to take care of it too
    Susi Alcott: 'never give up'....
    Susi Alcott: that's 'sisu' :)
    Fael Illyar: Well, it's a good thing not everyone uses that for everything ;)
    Pema Pera: remarkable that such a short word has such rich implications :)
    Susi Alcott: but yes; when we see the true need and that our help is fruitfull; we give our all
    Susi Alcott: more there's explonations to our 'word' 'tä' :)
    Pema Pera: even shorter!
    Susi Alcott: only two letters, but it can mean sentencies
    Susi Alcott: but very different kind ; depending on the tone of the way how to say it
    Susi Alcott: that's something I've teached to many foreigne persons to use :)
    Susi Alcott: btw; did you know that there's special love 'between' japanese ppl and finnish ppl ?
    Pema Pera: really?
    Susi Alcott: yes
    Susi Alcott: there's also special unions for the 'interactivity' between Japan and Finland
    Susi Alcott: well; there's much differencies...but like they would 'fill' each other
    Fael Illyar: It's funny how I've been interested in Japanese culture and langauge (well, at least part of the culture) but never really found out about those.
    Susi Alcott: like japanese ppl show there pride, but we let it to 'shine' into our self, and bend our head
    Pema Pera: can you say a bit more about that, Susi?
    Susi Alcott: as we have been 'alone' among he nature', but japanese ppl has been 'alone' in the crowd of ppl
    Susi Alcott: as we are pride, very pride, but we keep that to be force to ourself; not feel that over other ppl
    Susi Alcott: we dont want to use pride that way
    Susi Alcott: to show it
    Pema Pera: ah, I see.
    Susi Alcott: but also japanese ppl want to hide there pain; just similarity
    Pema Pera: I had never heard of that, but yes, it makes sense
    Pema Pera: well, it is almost dinner time here, I'll have to move on
    Pema Pera: nice seeing both of you again!
    Fael Illyar: See you later Pema :)
    Susi Alcott: onenice to met you again
    Fael Illyar: Nice to see you again :)
    Susi Alcott: _/!\_
    Pema Pera: bye for now!
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