2009.05.25 01:00 - Play as a flower

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Gaya Ethaniel. The comments are by Gaya Ethaniel.

    When I arrived at Playgoda, I found Moon flat out on a cushion [due to a minor RL issue]. sophia joins me soon after Moon left.


    Moon relaxing.jpg

    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello sophia :)
    sophia Placebo: morning gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: How are you?
    sophia Placebo: fine how about you ?
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Visitor :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm good too thanks.
    sophia Placebo: hello Visitor

    A visitor and SophiaSharon join us.

    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello SophiaSharon :)
    sophia Placebo: hi sophia :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Visitor, welcome to PlayasBeing discussion. Have you been here before?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Gaya, Hi Sophia :))
    SophiaSharon Larnia: HI Visitor
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Wow Sophia that is lovely :))
    sophia Placebo: thank you ^^
    Gaya Ethaniel: You can right click and sit on a cushion if you'd like Visitor.
    Gaya Ethaniel: Yes a lovely flower :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: How are you SophiaSharon?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: very good thanks, holiday weekend in the usa, I am stuffed :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: you??
    Gaya Ethaniel: It's a bank holiday weekend in UK as well so having a good time :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: what is a bank holiday?
    Gaya Ethaniel: It's a name handed down from long time ago, means public holidays when banks used to be closed.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ok
    Gaya Ethaniel: What US holiday is it?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: memorial day
    SophiaSharon Larnia: weekend rather
    SophiaSharon Larnia: technically when the ocean 'opens' which I always find odd
    Gaya Ethaniel: Memorial day when the ocean opens?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like it was closed or something
    Gaya Ethaniel googles ...
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ocean
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the beginning of summer season
    SophiaSharon Larnia: that not what the holiday is but it ties into other things as well
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: We had a wonderful weather yesterday, felt like summer too.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes it’s been in the 80's here, and it thunderstormed tonight
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I love that, just worry about losing power
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ... ok

    SophiaSharon tells us about her dreams.

    SophiaSharon Larnia: do you have a topic in mind for this session?
    Gaya Ethaniel: No :) Anything you'd like to suggest?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I’ve been having a lot of dreams
    Gaya Ethaniel listens.
    sophia Placebo: listens
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the meanings of the dreams don’t matter so much to me now as what they remind me of
    SophiaSharon Larnia: ive been 'obsessed' i guess you could say, about non-duality
    Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... when did this start? [being obsessed]
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if it can be said that to view what I see, duality, as a dream, then can this dream be influenced, like a lucid dream can
    SophiaSharon Larnia: oh I don’t know, Gaya, it has come and gone for a long time
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
    SophiaSharon Larnia: there is more but i talk to much :))
    Gaya Ethaniel: I'm curious about the actual dream now :)
    sophia Placebo: I’m waiting for the more :)

    Pema joins us. It’s nice when he can make 1 am sessions :) We had another visitor – another Dutch - but she had to leave soon after.

    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Pema :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: they are dreams like I am living my life, like having conversations with people etc, and then have to think if i actually did these things, when I’m awake
    sophia Placebo: hi pema
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Pema!
    Gaya Ethaniel: So you are asking if you are dreaming while dreaming?
    Pema Pera: Hi Gaya, Sophia and Sophia!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: well, I’m not sure what you mean
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok I misunderstood ... you asked when you are awake.
    sophia Placebo: do you mean that dreams gives you new insight to your attitude with people?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: a common thread is that to view duality as a sort of dream, or falsity that we tell our egos
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Another Visitor :)
    sophia Placebo: hi Another Visitor
    SophiaSharon Larnia: Hi Another Visitor
    Pema Pera: Hi Another Visitor!
    SophiaSharon Larnia: sometimes Sophia, but being the sort of person I am, I can’t ask them when i have seen in it, it is just impressions
    Pema Pera: Dag Another Visitor, kom er bij zitten als je wilt
    Gaya Ethaniel: Another Visitor said she had to get back to RL.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and also, why does the one need to be the many
    Pema Pera: ah, okay; I just saw that she was Dutch, so I invited her in Dutch :-)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: to play?
    Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: How does it go with you Pema??
    Pema Pera: oh, I'm fine, a bit busy
    Pema Pera: In a few days I'll be leaving Tokyo
    Pema Pera: for a three-week visit to Europe
    Pema Pera: so I'm tying up loose ends now
    Gaya Ethaniel: Sounds busy :) Where about in Europe you're visiting Pema?
    Pema Pera: a week France, a week Germany, and a week Holland :-)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Gaya Ethaniel: [1:29] SophiaSharon Larnia: and also, why does the one need to be the many - I don't understand this bit SophiaSharon [catching up now]
    SophiaSharon Larnia: if duality is a dream that we operate under, then why is this
    SophiaSharon Larnia: i dont think i can ever answer this and i get discouraged
    Gaya Ethaniel: Perhaps the point is the asking bit ...?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: perhaps
    sophia Placebo: by duality you mean?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: the stops actually brought this question on again, at first i hear One One One with the stops, then people here reminded me it was One Many, and I was brought to the question again
    Pema Pera: Perhaps I missed an earlier part, but I am not sure what you mean about One and Many?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: I’m sorry I babble.... one as in 'being', and many as in each individual egos (humans)
    Pema Pera: ah, yes, I see
    Pema Pera: what is interesting about Being is that it may seem at first like One
    Pema Pera: but in fact, Being is beyond the distinction between One and Many
    Pema Pera: like it is beyond any pair of dualities
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes
    Pema Pera: So Being is not something that is outside of our world of Many, not a single source from which everything flows forth . . . .
    Pema Pera: . . . though it may at first perhaps help to think about it that way, that kind of picture can then become a trap
    Pema Pera: But perhaps this is not related to what you mentioned -- you talked about your experience during the 9-sec breaks?
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes it is exactly related to what I was thinking
    SophiaSharon Larnia: yes, at first I hear in my mind 'one one one' I don’t know why
    SophiaSharon Larnia: like a gong
    SophiaSharon Larnia: until it became unbearable
    SophiaSharon Larnia: talked about it, and was reminded it was not one but many, I did misunderstand
    SophiaSharon Larnia: misunderstand*
    Gaya Ethaniel: Sorry I'm just listening here SophiaSharon.
    SophiaSharon Larnia: im babbling talk too much
    Gaya Ethaniel: Not at all, it's interesting, just don't have anything to add :)
    Pema Pera: Oh no, Sharon, I think I have a sense of what you mean
    Pema Pera: Anything we experience is Being, in fact all of Being, in what it really IS . . . but what that means is not easy to put into words
    SophiaSharon Larnia: and your right, it is a trap, I need to think about that some more
    Pema Pera: so instead we "play as Being"
    Pema Pera: as if we already know what Being is
    Pema Pera: and while playing as Being, we find out little by little :-)
    Gaya Ethaniel: Pema, how do you 'play'?
    Pema Pera: well, at first when I was searching for the truth, I was not very playful :-)
    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    Pema Pera: I was trying to reach and find something, like I guess most of us when we start
    Pema Pera: but over the years and decades I have learned more and more that there is nothing to obtain, but that instead the challenge is to celebrate what already IS
    Pema Pera: but of course, such a brief sentence can be rather misleading . . . .
    SophiaSharon Larnia: :)
    Pema Pera: . . . even so, the bottom line is: we don't lack anything, fundamentally, we already ARE what IS
    Pema Pera: but we don't seem to know what that means, so we playfully explore what it means
    Pema Pera: and little by little, everything then falls into place
    Pema Pera: that's the basic idea . . . .
    Pema Pera: And I'm happy to share this exploration, especially today, with a rabbit and a bright flower :-)

    Play as a flower.jpg

    Gaya Ethaniel: :)
    sophia Placebo: =)
    SophiaSharon Larnia laughs
    Pema Pera: play as rabbit, play as flower, all forms of play as Being
    SophiaSharon Larnia: bye everyone, have a great day :))
    Pema Pera: Bye Sharon!
    sophia Placebo: bye sophia
    Gaya Ethaniel: Have a good day :)
    SophiaSharon Larnia: thank you :))
    Pema Pera: I also should be going, dinner time or me here
    Gaya Ethaniel: Enjoy your evening Pema :)
    sophia Placebo: bye pema
    Pema Pera: thanks, Gaya!
    Pema Pera: See you both soon again!
    Gaya Ethaniel: Have a good day sophia. I need to get back to RL too.
    sophia Placebo: bye gaya :)

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