2009.06.30 13:00 - One Family regardless of diferences

    The Guardian for this meeting was Mickorod Renard. The comments are by Mickorod Renard.

    sophia Placebo: hello mick
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Sophia
    sophia Placebo: nice hat ^^
    Mickorod Renard: aha.thought u could creep up on me?
    Mickorod Renard: from behind..he he
    sophia Placebo: :)
    Mickorod Renard: the hat,,well, I thought I would have a change
    Mickorod Renard: nice shoes
    sophia Placebo: ty ^^
    Mickorod Renard: hey,,you have a tail?

    I notice notice Sophia has a tail and the number 13 on her back

    Mickorod Renard: now then,,is 13 an unlucky or lucky number where u are from?
    sophia Placebo: hehe yep
    sophia Placebo: no lucky or unlucky things here
    Mickorod Renard: thats good,,here 13 is supposed to be unlucky
    sophia Placebo: yes i heard
    sophia Placebo: wonders why and how
    sophia Placebo: how was your trip btw ara ?
    Mickorod Renard: well,,i am sure some know why,,not me though
    arabella Ella: it was very good sophia thanks
    Mickorod Renard: Ara has a cold , yes?
    arabella Ella: i enjoyed the conference, the hospitality, the friends ... the food ... everything
    sophia Placebo: good to hear ^^
    arabella Ella: yes ara is ill and injured tonite
    sophia Placebo: oh?
    Mickorod Renard: I should havelooked to see if I had a doctors outfit
    Mickorod Renard: wow,,hair changes
    Mickorod Renard: I quite like that one Sophia
    arabella Ella: sophia you were talking about luck ... but you do have things which are bad luck in your culture too dont you?
    sophia Placebo: sorry , i do it when im thinking in many things at one time , it is just a habit
    Mickorod Renard: he he he
    sophia Placebo: not sure ara that we do - here locally at least , do you know some ?
    arabella Ella: well some people are said to have evil powers like what you may call the maghmul?
    Mickorod Renard: that mystique may have started from the last supper
    arabella Ella: or the 'ghajn'?
    sophia Placebo: thats not bad luck , thats like bad aura or bad tele-something- or like magic
    sophia Placebo: or bad energy , really lots of ways to look at it
    arabella Ella: oh ok ... i would also have classified it as bad luck ... when things go badly
    arabella Ella: see Mick sophia understands my language :)
    sophia Placebo: hehe , hmm, it is kind of paranoied poeple stuff
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,I noticed before

    We try out some Arabic /maltese words

    Mickorod Renard: Iva
    arabella Ella: you should try ... hannini ... Mick?
    arabella Ella: he he
    sophia Placebo: whenever something goes bad they pointed out to other poeple :)
    arabella Ella: yes we have some similar things here too
    Mickorod Renard: merhba?
    arabella Ella: you see Sophia, Mick wants to learn new languages :)
    Mickorod Renard: I can see I need to be careful
    arabella Ella: you bet you do mick
    sophia Placebo: hehe good for him , it saied if you want to think diffrently learn new language
    Mickorod Renard: well,,i have a job thinking in my own language
    arabella Ella smiles
    Mickorod Renard: how about,,sabieha?
    Mickorod Renard: go on then sophia..teach me a useful word
    sophia Placebo: well the first words i teach to kids here in english is fool crazy and stupid
    sophia Placebo: and the first word girls ask about is love
    Mickorod Renard: lol,,that sounds like universal for kids
    Mickorod Renard: thats nice
    sophia Placebo: no thats just girlish
    arabella Ella: and ... let's compare notes sophia ... for me love is 'imhabba' ... and for you?
    Mickorod Renard: I must admit,,when I lived in france the first words I was tought were for pick up lines and swear words
    sophia Placebo: same :)
    arabella Ella: cool
    Mickorod Renard: not just habb?
    arabella Ella: so you teach english to kids?
    sophia Placebo: imhabba or mahabba :) the first is local spoken , the other is proper arabic
    Mickorod Renard: cool
    arabella Ella: we only use the first one imhabba
    sophia Placebo: i teach everything to kids in family , anyone in need
    arabella Ella: fantastic
    sophia Placebo: habba : verb that means he loved , hubb : love mahabba is love too
    Mickorod Renard: sounds great
    arabella Ella: yes although 'habba' is also ... was ... a measure at one time here for a half penny
    Mickorod Renard: so is jekk joghghok and jogbok arabic too?
    sophia Placebo: ara there is 7abbeh and 7abba the first meant beans or greans or seeds and used in many times to refer to the few or the little , mick what ?
    sophia Placebo: grains*
    Mickorod Renard: grains or seeds sounds right
    arabella Ella: yes we have something similar ttoo

    A quick look into world issues

    Mickorod Renard: has the Iran thing settled down u think?
    arabella Ella: I doubt it would settle down so soon ... it is such a complicated matter
    sophia Placebo: dont know , news from there are divers
    Mickorod Renard: Its always a worry,,not knowing if it will cause suffering to the populus
    arabella Ella: well mick we must not forget that not all the news filters out and there is more suffering than we know about
    Mickorod Renard: its dificult for people from other cultures to relate to what is wanted
    sophia Placebo: true
    arabella Ella: well the media we chose to read or follow imposes its own filters too...
    arabella Ella: whenever i travel to asia i find it fascinating to read newspapers with such different slants to those in europe
    Mickorod Renard: I think as a people,,the folk in the uk just want to see peace and freedom,,,but they see it from their perspective,,as any culture would
    arabella Ella: hey coralee no shopping here
    sophia Placebo: the thing about iran is just i dont want it to go like iraq or afghanistan ie into chaos
    sophia Placebo: iran is a major stabelizer countery here ,and if it goes into that it would make a miss in all reigon
    arabella Ella nods
    sophia Placebo: mess*
    arabella Ella: but sophia ... the mess came about as a result of foreign intervention
    Mickorod Renard: yes I can understand that Sophia
    sophia Placebo: no ara foriegn intervention only intiated it
    sophia Placebo: the rest is natural phenomenon
    arabella Ella: what do you mean sophia ... only initiated it?
    sophia Placebo: poeple naturlaly nenvr agreed on one thing
    Mickorod Renard: It doesnt help when a country is divided in its desires..
    sophia Placebo: so just make a friction here and there with a loud speaker , the rest would follow
    Mickorod Renard: would the populus prefer a more western style life or a more non western one?
    sophia Placebo: would a western prefer a more non western ?
    Mickorod Renard: its hard to tell without trying them out
    sophia Placebo: besides it is not about westeranization , more power war there
    arabella Ella: depends sophia although i see your point ... but when i visit some remote places in Asia I realise we have lost the 'simple' life
    Mickorod Renard: so I guess the answer would be that western style countries hang onto what they feel comfortable with
    sophia Placebo: im not against or with culture or traditions , these things changes as cultures meets
    sophia Placebo: like you and me ara :)
    arabella Ella: yes :)
    arabella Ella: well sophia in my hotel in malaysia i had a copy of the koran
    arabella Ella: and i read some parts of it
    arabella Ella: and i was amazed at the similarities there are between the major religions
    sophia Placebo: true :)
    sophia Placebo: not only major even some ancient ones like the eygiptians
    Mickorod Renard: it only really seperated with ishmael and issac ,,yes?
    sophia Placebo: like for example Ma'at , a godess or a judge who said some things like what we have in major living religions
    arabella Ella: yes?
    arabella Ella: where was that sophia? in mesapotania?
    Mickorod Renard: but some probs are between the sects or whatever(not wishing to be offensive) like sunni or barth or others?
    sophia Placebo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%27at
    sophia Placebo: the negative confessions
    sophia Placebo: oh sorry
    Mickorod Renard: by the way sophia,,i am sorry I missed the talk you did on Saturday..I had to go on a course for work
    arabella Ella: very interesting sophia thanks for the link :_
    sophia Placebo: ba'ath is political party and by pointing to diffrent sects you are not at all offensing anyone , that what is there
    Mickorod Renard: ok,,ty
    Mickorod Renard: I had a good friend who was sheite or however u spell it
    sophia Placebo: yes i missed you there :)
    sophia Placebo: yw ara
    Mickorod Renard: i remember before the gulf war,,he said that saddam was a stabalising charachter,,even though not popular
    sophia Placebo: who said ?
    Mickorod Renard: my friend,,the sheite
    sophia Placebo: iraq is a stabilazing country too , hmm country not a regiem
    sophia Placebo: well i guess we got enough wars , maybe we solve our problems so slowly but wars btw each other is not a first choice
    Mickorod Renard: well,,his take on it at the time was,,that there were so many diferent groups that would want power at saddams downfall,,that leaving saddam may be the better option
    sophia Placebo: well you can tell now
    sophia Placebo: bombs everyday
    Mickorod Renard: yes
    sophia Placebo: it hurts more than an enemy bombs

    Mickorod Renard: yes,,cos also its hard to see how it will resolve
    sophia Placebo: true , betterness would persist for longer time like it is in lebanon

    Perhaps there are signs of hope around the world

    Mickorod Renard: yes,,such a pity,,but in hope,,it looks better in northern ireland now,,at last
    sophia Placebo: :)

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