The Guardian for this meeting was Storm Nordwind. The comments are by Storm Nordwind.
Storm Nordwind: Hello Eliza. Greetings! :)Perhaps Gaya wants some structure to the meeting!
Eliza Madrigal: Greetings Storm :) All well?
Storm Nordwind: Yes thank you. And you?
Eliza Madrigal: Very, thanks :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Storm and Eliza :)
Storm Nordwind: Greetings wistful rabbit! :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Long time no see Storm :)
Gaya Ethaniel: How are you both?
Storm Nordwind: It seems so
Eliza Madrigal: Lovely little mask hat, Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Thank you :)
Storm Nordwind: Well I am fine thank you. very busy, but fine.
Gaya Ethaniel pats the cushion next to her ... Eliza? :)
Eliza Madrigal is well, thanks
Gaya Ethaniel: :) I'm good too.
Eliza Madrigal smiles :
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hm
Gaya Ethaniel: What's topic?
Storm Nordwind: What topic would you like? We have only just arrived.
Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Chi?
Eliza Madrigal looks for Pila
Eliza Madrigal: heh
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Sure though :)
Storm Nordwind: Chi is good (as a topic too)
Gaya Ethaniel: I don't know much about it.
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Storm Nordwind: What do you understand by Chi?
Gaya Ethaniel: Life energy? Something to do with breath as well?
Storm Nordwind: That's a good working definition for me, sure
Gaya Ethaniel: Is it? :)
Eliza Madrigal nods... my understanding too..releasing of breath throughout body and life...
Eliza Madrigal: I wonder if it is the same thing that is meant by 'winds' in buddhism...similar?
Storm Nordwind: Yes it may well be, Eliza
Gaya Ethaniel listens.
Storm Nordwind: I find the problem with Chi (or winds) is that there's often too much theory and not enough practice!
Storm Nordwind: Chi, for me, is something to experience
Storm Nordwind: And perhaps put to use
Storm Nordwind: And it can even form the focus of powerful meditation
Eliza Madrigal nods. I'm only learning about these things just now
Gaya Ethaniel: ooo do share Storm.
Storm Nordwind: I'll ask Eliza to share her learning with us first Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes do do Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hm... Oh goodness
Storm Nordwind chuckles
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I was quite reluctant to go near anything with complex maps and such...
Storm Nordwind nods
Eliza Madrigal: but it seems I get an idea about something, and then it shows up.
Eliza Madrigal: to learn about, etc
Eliza Madrigal: so THAT makes me more interested... so I read, in fact Storm, the book you mentioned a while ago about the Heart Sutra...
Gaya Ethaniel listens.
Storm Nordwind has a memory like a ... er ... er ... holey thing
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Ah... Essense of Wisdom...
Storm Nordwind: Great
Eliza Madrigal: Anyway, I've become now more interested in tibetan buddhism in particular, and this idea of winds/subtle winds...
Eliza Madrigal: but I know *nothing* :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Storm Nordwind: That's probably the best starting point!
Storm Nordwind: And I know that sounds like a flippant comment but it's true
Eliza Madrigal: I now what you are saying... and in fact it ties in with Stim's workshop... sunyata..this idea of groundlessness/no place to land
Storm Nordwind: It is best to take an empty cup to be filled, not a partly full one
Eliza Madrigal: I hear you
Storm Nordwind: I experienced Chi decades before experiencing emptiness
Eliza Madrigal listens
Storm Nordwind: or before I even read the Heart Sutra
Gaya Ethaniel listens too.
Storm Nordwind: 35 or more years ago, I learnt a technique of meditation
Storm Nordwind: And ostensibly it focused on the breath
Storm Nordwind: and also on a mantra to be chanted internally in sync with the breath
Storm Nordwind: And there were huge claims made for this particular sort of meditation
Storm Nordwind: And people pointed to scriptures of all religions, even Christianity, saying it was at the heart of all things
Eliza Madrigal: Hm
Storm Nordwind: But at first it seemed odd to me, that one's own breath and this sound of the mantra could be universal or powerful
Storm Nordwind: But after some practice, an amazing thing happened
Storm Nordwind: I started to feel a tide of energy sweep through me, almost like it was moving my breath
Eliza Madrigal: MM How nice
Gaya Ethaniel: What kind of mantra Storm?
Storm Nordwind: And I switched the focus of my meditation to this flow, instead of being on the breath or the mantra
Eliza Madrigal: ahhh
Gaya Ethaniel: Would you mind giving us a bit of details?
Storm Nordwind: The mantra was a sound, two syllables, that I promised not to pass on
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Mick :)
Eliza Madrigal waves to Mick
Mickorod Renard: hi all
Storm Nordwind: And in the end I was able to experience this flow outside meditation sessions
Gaya Ethaniel: Did you have to stick to a specific number of inhalation/exhalation?
Storm Nordwind: And focus on it whatever else I was doing
Gaya Ethaniel: Per mantra sound
Storm Nordwind: Oh, it was one for one
Gaya Ethaniel: ahhh
Storm Nordwind: But I left that behind
Storm Nordwind: And when I read later, much later ...
Eliza Madrigal: I find mantra very powerful, and yet I've been so stubborn for years, in a way, doing things the way I 'prefer' rather than the way they are taught
Storm Nordwind: it appeared that was i was experiencing might be Chi, or perhaps prana
Gaya Ethaniel: What's the difference?
Eliza Madrigal: yes, I belive Pila correlates prana and chi often
Storm Nordwind: But do they work for you Eliza?
Eliza Madrigal: yes :)
Storm Nordwind: I see them as the same Gaya
Storm Nordwind: Then perhaps no need to worry Eliza!
Gaya Ethaniel: ok
Storm Nordwind: When I had that solid link and experience, I could then use it for healing too
Eliza Madrigal: Well lately I may be getting to a place where a teacher I might consult for specifics and have in physical presence might be nice
Storm Nordwind: It was almost like a transmissible fluid
Gaya Ethaniel: How interesting!
Storm Nordwind: That's often very useful Eliza
Storm Nordwind: I have made the most progress, I believe, when a real life teacher has been near
Eliza Madrigal: At the same time, I feel I'm flooded with teachers here... Spiritual Friends :)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Storm Nordwind: In the end, they are calling to the teacher within you
Eliza Madrigal: MM :)..sitting with that a moment :)
Gaya Ethaniel: How do you use mantra Eliza?
Mickorod Renard: Hi ra
arabella Ella: hiya
Mickorod Renard: Ara
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello arabella :)
Storm Nordwind: Ra is a good name too! :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Ara :)
Mickorod Renard: grin
arabella Ella: yea ra ra ra la la la
Storm Nordwind was thinking of Egyptian links
Eliza Madrigal: I began mantra through yoga really.. and yogic breathing excercizes, Gaya... and my UU sangha has a man who is wonderful with chanting...
Mickorod Renard: Ara'a been to see lady Ga Ga
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Mickorod Renard: see it rymes
Gaya Ethaniel: What's UU?
Eliza Madrigal: So instead of singing in the morning in the normal way, I started singing Om Mana Padme Hum, then other things as they've come :)
Eliza Madrigal: Oh, sorry. Universalist Unitarian Church... I attend a small, informal buddhist group there sometimes
Eliza Madrigal: brb
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
Storm Nordwind: Hello Fefonz
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Fefonz :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi Fef
Fefonz Quan: Heya!
Gaya Ethaniel: Is everyone being silent or I'm lagging?
Fefonz Quan: 1 2 3 silent
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
arabella Ella: :)
arabella Ella: we are silently meditating ... possibly
Gaya Ethaniel: We are talking about chi, prana, breath ... mantra ... etc :)
Storm Nordwind: Sometimes I sits and thinks, and sometimes I just sits
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Mickorod Renard: I am asleep
Gaya Ethaniel: Just checking - I've been having problems with my new machine, using SL.
Storm Nordwind: perhaps you could breathe some chi into it ;)
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Moon :)
Moon Fargis: greetings everyone
Fefonz Quan: Hey Moon :)
Mickorod Renard: Hi moon
Storm Nordwind: Hello Moon!
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
arabella Ella: hiya Moon
Eliza Madrigal: wow! Hi Moon, Fef ...we're blooming :)
Moon Fargis: pab blooms :)
arabella Ella: yes what happened?
Moon Fargis: *giggles*
arabella Ella: Storm is this you or is it Moon?
Gaya Ethaniel: Moon, you are clouds ... on my screen :(
arabella Ella: who is the culprit?
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Moon Fargis: i am :)
Fefonz Quan: interestingly i see the blossom behind Arabella and Mick but infront of the fountain...
Moon Fargis: ah i am cludy?
arabella Ella: me blossoming Fefonz?
Moon Fargis: yes sl cant deal with transparencys wich come from attachments
Mickorod Renard: someone is monk(ey)ing around
Moon Fargis humms cutely.
Fefonz Quan: no, the plant are behind you ara
arabella Ella: so innocent
arabella Ella loves innocence
arabella Ella: he he
Fefonz Quan: Moon, so you try to say that pool is not REAL 3-D! i am shocked
Moon Fargis: ofcourse the pool is not real! it makes a Bing soudn every 15 minutes.. does real pools do that ?:) nooo :)
Fefonz Quan: oh, guess my cucu clock is not reall too, hmmm
Moon Fargis: :))
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Storm Nordwind: What is 'real' anyway?
arabella Ella: i am real
arabella Ella: i think i am real
Moon Fargis: (someone say "let there be forrest" ?)
Storm Nordwind chuckles
arabella Ella: Let there be NO forrest!
Moon Fargis: Meep Meep
arabella Ella: (let's see!)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
arabella Ella: Let there be NO pool!
arabella Ella: (ouch no good)
Moon Fargis: :)
arabella Ella: cool
Fefonz Quan: pool?
arabella Ella: pool now gone
arabella Ella: so your wish is my command!
Time to water the plants. A Storm is brewing.
Storm Nordwind: let there be rain!
Eliza Madrigal: YAY!! My *favorite* thing
Fefonz Quan: wonder who pooled that off :)
arabella Ella: rain sounds in orbit
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Eliza Madrigal: The flowers are happy now
Fefonz Quan: cool, thunders too!
arabella Ella: yes rain gives us all so much more energy especially if it is brit style pitter patter rain
Fefonz Quan: just like the east coast at summer, hehe
arabella Ella: british summer rain
arabella Ella: :)
Eliza Madrigal turns up volume
Fefonz Quan: is it just me or this rain is purple?
Storm Nordwind: Well you were talking about 'winds' Eliza!
Eliza Madrigal: Yes indeed :)
arabella Ella: i cannot see the rain i can only hear it
arabella Ella: hey the plants sure grow fast here
arabella Ella: soon we will all be lost
Gaya Ethaniel: The rain doesn't exist! heheheh I can't see or hear because of lag.
Gaya Ethaniel: rebooting brb
Fefonz Quan: Eliza, your hair fits quite well with the lilachs
Moon Fargis: hehe yes!:)
Moon Fargis: (laveder)
Eliza Madrigal: Thank you Fef : ) heh
Moon Fargis: wb gaya
Eliza Madrigal: Clouds and mist...this is beautiful
Gaya Ethaniel: ty :) [rezzing slowly ... on the ocean atm]
arabella Ella: Moon are you always like this ... also in RL ... incorrigible?
Storm Nordwind: Some things never change
Moon Fargis: depends what has to be corrected:)
Mickorod Renard: love the rain
Eliza Madrigal basking
Mickorod Renard: feel at home now
arabella Ella: well ... i can think of lots of stuff that can be corrected ... both in RL and in SL ... would put you in good business i guess
Moon Fargis: i am no business man :)
Moon Fargis: i love to live
Eliza Madrigal: Gaya, where are you now?
Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... on green field ...
Gaya Ethaniel: Actually I don't see what I'm typing ...
Eliza Madrigal: we see your typing
Gaya Ethaniel: Apologies I may move to the cafe for now - less things to rezz. Nice to see you again :) Have a good day/evening.
Eliza Madrigal: See you soon Gaya
Storm Nordwind: Bye for now!
Storm Nordwind waves
Mickorod Renard: bye Gaya
Moon Fargis: bye gaya ^^/
Fefonz Quan: bye Gaya
arabella Ella: bye gaya
Moon Fargis: ahyes just wanted to take a look and say hell, bedtime also calls me now
arabella Ella: oh no
Storm Nordwind chuckles
arabella Ella: just when we were beginning to appreciate your company Moon :)
Eliza Madrigal: So nice to see you Moon. :) Night
Moon Fargis: aww
Moon Fargis: il be back :)
arabella Ella: ok :)
Storm Nordwind: Well do call in again soon!
arabella Ella: nite for now
Fefonz Quan: Night moon, good to see you here!
Moon Fargis: ^^/
Mickorod Renard: nite moon
Storm Nordwind: I was thinking about chi ... and then wondered ... if we talked about consciousness (=chit), we would have chit-chat
Storm Nordwind: But then I thought, only Fefonz would make such a pun
Eliza Madrigal: hehe..very cute Storm
Fefonz Quan: apparently not :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Storm Nordwind: Which must prove there is no separation between us Fefonz ;)
Fefonz Quan: :)
Storm Nordwind: Are people going on to Stim's workshop now?
Fefonz Quan: yep
Eliza Madrigal: I'm about to head over... think everyone yes?
Mickorod Renard: I was goin to yes
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for the heads up
Mickorod Renard: not done homework
Storm Nordwind: Then this is a good time to stop this session
Storm Nordwind: Thank you for coming!
Mickorod Renard: thanks Storm
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks for the Stormy weather
arabella Ella: lovely outfit Eliza
Eliza Madrigal: Thanks, ara :)
arabella Ella: see u there soon
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