2009.08.02 07:00 - Slugs Who Are Aware

The Guardian for this meeting was Adams Rubble. The comments are by Adams Rubble.

Most of the session was Eliza and I but we were joined briefely by Qt and Stevenaia who unfortunately crashed due to a thunderstorm. Mick made a cameo appearance later

Adams Rubble: Good morning Eliza :)
Eliza Madrigal: Morning :) Dejavu
Adams Rubble: Eleven hours later
Eliza Madrigal smiles... Has it been that long?
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: you must have been having fun :)
Eliza Madrigal: The kids are off and about again today. The house is quiet :)
Adams Rubble: Mine too. They're not coming back today
Eliza Madrigal: Ah, one more day?
Adams Rubble: I was reading something you wrote and could not figure out who AR was :)

One day I had been out walking int he woods and was trying to keep focused on APAPB. I set the five words to a Gregorian-like chant, I began to silently chant the words as a mantra. Shortly afterwards I was talking to Eliza and for some reason that had come up. Eliza had tried it and had written about it.

Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
Eliza Madrigal: And did you finally?
Adams Rubble: yes, finally :)
Eliza Madrigal laughs... About the mantra?
Adams Rubble: Funny how others see us
Adams Rubble: yes
Eliza Madrigal: It was a helpful tool actually, in sitting with APAPB.
Adams Rubble: Hello Qt :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Qt! :)
Adams Rubble: I am glad :)
Adams Rubble: I don't think I ever blogged about that experience
Qt Core: hi all
Eliza Madrigal: Just something you mentioned once, and at the time it was 'nice idea' but not until it floated up when sitting did it become something really helpful :)
Eliza Madrigal: And the reason it was so helpful is that keeping my attention there... on what that means, didn't come as naturally to me as some other sentences, etc.
Adams Rubble: yes!
Adams Rubble: Qt we are taking about using APAPB as a mantra. I once set it to a chant and kept rerpeating it
Adams Rubble: I told Eliza and she mentioned it in some writing she did
Adams Rubble: and attributed it to an AR
Adams Rubble: and I could not figure out who AR was :)
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble: at first
Qt Core: was wondering about the topic ;-)
Adams Rubble: I think we are waking up (hehe)
Adams Rubble speaks for herself
Eliza Madrigal is certainly waking
Eliza Madrigal: The mornings are the most vibrant time for me though, generally... wake up crackling
Adams Rubble: Yes, I am a morning person but it is very humid here this morning
Adams Rubble: I am sort of swimming around
Eliza Madrigal: hehe
Adams Rubble: there was the sound of rolloing thunder when I woke this morning
Eliza Madrigal: MM
Eliza Madrigal: But no sign of rain?
Adams Rubble: yes, lots of rain :)
Qt Core: we are awaiting some refreshing rain in a few hours
Eliza Madrigal: haha...okay. In Miami, there is a distinct difference between humid weather and rainy weather, or seems that way. The humid/hot weather is not always eacy to embrace
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Eliza Madrigal: Especially if one has to go somewhere and look nice (hair)
Adams Rubble: :)
Qt Core: then you even enter a place with US style air conditioned and dye immediatly by pneumonia ;-)
Qt Core: die
--BELL--
Adams Rubble: Good morning Steve :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Steve :)
Eliza Madrigal: I've noticed that lately with everyone cutting back financially in America, even stores have less air conditioning on. I bet people are wishing they'd designed more windows :)
Adams Rubble: The 90 seconds is a long time when one wants to say hello to Steve :)
stevenaia Michinaga: Good morning, big storms here so I may dissappear nw and then
Eliza Madrigal: hah, yes it is
Qt Core: hi stevenaia
stevenaia Michinaga: I understand
Adams Rubble: I was in a museum without ac yesterday that was built before ac and wishing there was a little
stevenaia Michinaga: hello Adams, Eliza and Qt
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble: Everyone's hair was frizzy :)
Eliza Madrigal: hahaha
stevenaia Michinaga: for those with hair
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal smiles
stevenaia Michinaga: Sl avatars don;t have frizzy hair as much as they should
Adams Rubble: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: If they did, we'd have to have a store for hair products
Adams Rubble: betcha we could buy some
Adams Rubble: hehe Eliza
Adams Rubble thinking of virtual hair spray
Eliza Madrigal thinks the music she is playing this morning is quieting, possibly not helpful for chatting
Eliza Madrigal: :)
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: It is yoga music...very nice
Adams Rubble wondering why she read yogurt
stevenaia Michinaga: yga music?
stevenaia Michinaga: yoga? music to streach by?

Mantra kundatini music

Eliza Madrigal: yes, mantra kundalini music
Adams Rubble: wow, that is a mouthful
Eliza Madrigal: hehe.. The way the artist has managed this is very nice, but I just never noticed the automatic response... kind if a heavy quiet?
Eliza Madrigal: *of
Qt Core: i sadly have to go, have fun you all
Adams Rubble: bye QT...good to see you
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Qt :)
stevenaia Michinaga: sampling music now
Eliza Madrigal: This artist is Snatam Kaur
Adams Rubble: what is a kundalini?
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Eliza Madrigal: A type of yoga that deals with the concept of there being a kind of energy dormant... lying coiled... and bringing that up through chakras
Eliza Madrigal: So, many parallels to other practices
Eliza Madrigal: I was thinking about Tai Chi the other day... some of the discussions Steve and Pila have had, and put that together with the idea of some of the yoga poses... and came up with the walking meditation Fef described, but as yoga... like slow motion yoga
Eliza Madrigal: and then getting slower when you think you are already going very slowly... cutting it in half
Eliza Madrigal: I haven't done it though. haha
Adams Rubble: :)

Exercising

Adams Rubble: I guess when we spend more time contemplating and discussing we need to find a way to get our bodies involved
Adams Rubble: otherwise we become slugs
Eliza Madrigal: yes, sometimes ideas flow a thousand miles a minute
Adams Rubble: slugs who are aware :)
Eliza Madrigal: and one wants to get them out, but they aren't fully formed yet...not in practice
Eliza Madrigal: hahahahahha
Eliza Madrigal: That sounds like a log title to me
Adams Rubble: :)
Adams Rubble: Thanks, that'll save time (giggles)
Eliza Madrigal: You weren't sluggish yesterday
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: So are allowed to pour ideas endlessly today?
Adams Rubble: hmmm
Adams Rubble: Hello Mick :)
Eliza Madrigal: Hi Mick!
Adams Rubble: come join us :)
Eliza Madrigal thought about Mick when writing out a Rumi poem the other day
Adams Rubble: I must remember to look up that dance passage
Adams Rubble: whoops
Eliza Madrigal: Hmm
Adams Rubble: sometimes avatars are like fleeting thoughts

Diving for Pearls

Eliza Madrigal: Mick discussed diving for pearls one day, and thought he might like a line: "There is a pearl diver who does not know how to swim! No matter. Pearls are handed to him on the beach. "
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: I thought about my gecko when reading that
Adams Rubble: I like that muchly
Eliza Madrigal: I had few teachers, but everything, even a gecko can be a teacher :)
Adams Rubble: hehe
Adams Rubble: and the deer in the forest, and in the fields, and on the sidewalks, and in the roads, and in your own backyard
Eliza Madrigal: YES
Eliza Madrigal: My grandfather yesterday, told me that he thinks of the bible as the only 'living book' and I smiled. I said to him that everything and everyone becomes a living book at some point, when you are open.
Adams Rubble: :)
Eliza Madrigal: To which he responded that "everything bears the signature of god" and I thought about Sophia in talking about symbols
Adams Rubble: I was thinking that the Native Americans saw the deer as a gift of food from the creator
Eliza Madrigal: yes, they were appreciative and not wasteful
Adams Rubble: yes, we dont know what to do about the deer because we don;t see that point
Adams Rubble: the harmony of nature
Adams Rubble: who we are all part of one
Eliza Madrigal: In many cultures, there is a kind of communion in the hunt...
Adams Rubble: yes
Eliza Madrigal: becoming one by consumption
Adams Rubble: Sarah Palin (giggles)
Eliza Madrigal: Ack
Adams Rubble: Well hunting wolves from a heliocoptor isn;t being one with nature
Eliza Madrigal: :) I'm not sure shooting at magnificent beings from a helicopter qualifies as communing
Eliza Madrigal: Hah :)
Adams Rubble: hehe
Eliza Madrigal: When I lived in Colorado for a little while, the whole ritual around food was different. It was about no waste. I had even been invited to attend Thanksgiving up in the mountains with these peole who lived entirely on the land.
Eliza Madrigal: Unfortunately I didn't stay long enough.
Adams Rubble: we have become an incredibly wasteful society
Eliza Madrigal: yes
Eliza Madrigal: we take so much for granted
Adams Rubble: or just take
Adams Rubble: so much
--BELL--
Eliza Madrigal: yes, we'd be satisfied naturally if we just considered longer... lingered longer.
Adams Rubble nods
Eliza Madrigal: I talk a good game, but have much progress to make in this area
Adams Rubble: learning to appreciate all that is given to us
Eliza Madrigal nods
Adams Rubble: We all do Eliza
Adams Rubble: remember me and the chocolate cake. hehe
Eliza Madrigal: hahah, yes I certainly do

I was referring to one of the 7 am sessions last week when Sophia had us imagine a chocolate cake in front of us (http://playasbeing.wik.is/Chat_Logs/...-_The_Ego_Game). I was the Cookie Monster while others were considering sharing

Eliza Madrigal: There is a point at which this discussions slips into 'what is time' which I find myself alive toward lately
Adams Rubble: I didn't waste it though. I ate all the chocloate on my face. hehe
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, you did! AND you entertained your company with your display
Eliza Madrigal: heheh
Adams Rubble: tell me more about the time
Eliza Madrigal: Not sure I can do that succinctly just yet
Eliza Madrigal: but I was sitting in on a discussion yesterday
Eliza Madrigal: and though there were such interesting ideas bantered about,
Eliza Madrigal: I could not stop thinking of time as a kind of substance
Eliza Madrigal: a wave to ride on. I know I use that analogy a lot
Adams Rubble: hmmm
Eliza Madrigal: and one that flows from within
Eliza Madrigal: Much of this thinking has to do with learning that I didn't 'feel like' I was doing at all
Eliza Madrigal: but then there it all was
Eliza Madrigal: Of course, at the beginnings
Eliza Madrigal: Nonetheless, very exciting. Appreciation gives us endless time
Adams Rubble: yes...
Adams Rubble: we learn to live in the moment
Adams Rubble: seeing the next moment is empty
Eliza Madrigal: and even beyond
Adams Rubble: waiting to be filled with whatever we want to fill it with
Adams Rubble: and our learnning process is separate from time
Adams Rubble: (ubnless we are in a degree program)(hehe)
Eliza Madrigal giggles
Adams Rubble: there is no goal
Adams Rubble: but when we look backward we see there is some kind of progress
Adams Rubble: something may have changed in us
Adams Rubble: but what that is...
Adams Rubble: is learning to live in the present moment
Eliza Madrigal: Thinking about these things can cause great humility... One can plug along at something for decades and another learn it in a flash
Adams Rubble: (me talks up a good storm too)
Adams Rubble: yes Eliza
Adams Rubble: One thing I get excited about is learning that there is a relly nice humility
Adams Rubble: not the kind that makes us close up into a shell
Adams Rubble: but which opens out heart
Eliza Madrigal: YES!
Adams Rubble: our
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, that is truly inspiring
Eliza Madrigal wants to to give Stim much credit for the TSK book
Adams Rubble: yes
Eliza Madrigal: And the workshops
Adams Rubble: And Pema is a great salesman :)
Eliza Madrigal: And Pema for talking about this 'direct knowledge'
Eliza Madrigal: idea
Adams Rubble: although he tells everyone that there is no need to buy it, somehow everyone seems to be doing so (hehe)
Eliza Madrigal: As a group, I think our capacity is ready for it
Adams Rubble is very grateful for Pema
Eliza Madrigal: Indeed!!
Adams Rubble: well, I must be going
Adams Rubble: It has been good chatting with you :)
Adams Rubble: as always
Eliza Madrigal: Yes, always nice to float down the stream with you
Adams Rubble: good bye Eliza, have a good day :)
Eliza Madrigal: Bye Adams, You too