The Guardian for this meeting was Riddle Sideways. The comments are by Riddle Sideways.
As I add some comments, I know that I am not in the same moods as I was.. Several times, I have virtually commented this sessio.. Now that I really hit the keys, there is a different feeling that is not as deep.
Some dreams, some thoughts, some waking.
Deja Vu has become a smaller meaning then we need.
Same dreans, same thoughts, same waking.
Same as it always was, but different.
Yakuzza entered while I was deciding the pool size.
<bell>Yakuzza Lethecus: hey riddleIt had already started here. The fountain was not quite the same bell.
Riddle Sideways: good morning Yakuzza
Riddle Sideways: the same ol bell is different today
Yakuzza Lethecus: i have audio turned downHope you, the reader, are having your coffee, tea, me.
Riddle Sideways: ha, I did too until a minute ago
Yakuzza Lethecus: you are really early up
Yakuzza Lethecus: here it´s obviously already 4 pm
Yakuzza Lethecus: but ur on sl time
Yakuzza Lethecus: you drink coffee or tea for breakfast ?
Riddle Sideways: ah yes, coffee, SL/RL time zone is the same for me and I usually am up by this time
Riddle Sideways: I enjoy early mornings
Riddle Sideways: well, I enjoy late nights too :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: the only silent part of the day ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: everyone else still in bed ?
Riddle Sideways: exactly
Riddle Sideways: yes, the rest of house is in bed
Riddle Sideways: One of my favs is walking thru completly dark house
Riddle Sideways: using senses other then eye sight
Riddle Sideways: in the quiet
Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, but i only do that in order to not wake everyone up while i cook my first coffee when everyone is sleeping :)
Riddle Sideways: my daughter as baby would awake at 2am and I would rockingly walk her around the dark house for an hourWalking meditation anyone.
Riddle Sideways: knowing that there are 10 steps across my living room
Riddle Sideways: is a knowledge that makes me smile
Riddle Sideways: little things
Yakuzza Lethecus: i can imagine :)
Riddle Sideways: like whispering to the coffee maker to be a little more quiet so as not to awaken others
Riddle Sideways: it never is
Yakuzza Lethecus: i just use a watercooker and cook brew the coffee myself
Yakuzza Lethecus: we don´t even have a regular coffee machine
Riddle Sideways: did that same thing for years
Riddle Sideways: drip coffee
Yakuzza Lethecus: scald the coffee
Yakuzza Lethecus: brew is only for beer i guess ? :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: can i say scald the coffee ?
Yakuzza Lethecus: i would say aufbrühen in german
Riddle Sideways: I now call it expresso in californian
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe
Yakuzza Lethecus: no no expresso :)
Riddle Sideways: there is a very repeatative theme for me today
Yakuzza Lethecus: but expresso would be better for my stomach
Riddle Sideways: it is like I know the title of this session before it started
Riddle Sideways: the brand new same ol thing
Riddle Sideways: or the same ol thing anew
Riddle Sideways: an old song that goes "wake up in the morning, same thing for breakfast, so that every one can be feed..."
--BELL--
Riddle Sideways: <bell> every morning
Riddle Sideways: (except 2) I get up and make coffee
Yakuzza Lethecus: hi gaya
Riddle Sideways: but, over the years it changes
Riddle Sideways: Hi Gaya
Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Riddle and Yakuzza :) Sorry for being late.
Yakuzza Lethecus: lol, ur not a bunny :)
Riddle Sideways: you not late
Gaya Ethaniel: Not today :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks Riddle :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: how come, never saw u differently .:)
Riddle Sideways: we were just up earlier then you and getting it ready for you
Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
Riddle Sideways: me?
Gaya Ethaniel: Most of the time I've been human Yakuzza. You just met me after I changed into the bunny that's all :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: but ur korean right ? so this av also doesn´t fit ?
Gaya Ethaniel: What do you think Riddle. This AV Koreanesque enough?
Riddle Sideways: old saying... "if the av fits, wear it" (loosely)
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Riddle is familiar with this AV anyway as Gaya :)
Gaya Ethaniel: What's the topic btw? Please let me not interrupt you.
Riddle Sideways: Gaya, has been many nationalities of av over the last year
Gaya Ethaniel guffaws.
Yakuzza Lethecus: coffee and morning habits
Riddle Sideways: I think it might be the same ol thing
Riddle Sideways: every morning the sun rises
Riddle Sideways: but each is alittle different
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Riddle Sideways: at least our attitude toward the arising
Riddle Sideways: our point of view
Riddle Sideways: each day we make coffee
Riddle Sideways: some times it is bitter
Gaya Ethaniel nods.
Riddle Sideways: about every hour this kitty comes and gets in my face while it type
Riddle Sideways: tradition
Gaya Ethaniel: Which one?
Riddle Sideways: hmmm, the little black weird kitty, the morning tradtion
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Riddle Sideways: the brand new thoughts that we have each day at *:07
Riddle Sideways: 8:07
Gaya Ethaniel: mm ... you notice that pattern each day?
Riddle Sideways: hard nottoo
Riddle Sideways: [really having typing probs]
Gaya Ethaniel: At that precise moment?
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Riddle Sideways: close enough
Riddle Sideways: and there is the 5:53 wake up cat
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
Riddle Sideways: well, actually she is moved by the sunrise
Riddle Sideways: 16 minutes before sunrise she jumps up into the window by my head
Riddle Sideways: and I start thinking about coffee
--BELL--
Gaya Ethaniel: [sorry ... had to change skirt - weird sitting down ...]
Riddle Sideways: I gave up trying to change my skirt
Gaya Ethaniel giggles.
Gaya Ethaniel: You want to?
Riddle Sideways: just do not have the artist fashion gene
Riddle Sideways: actually no, I like my hakama
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ok looks it's ok now :)
Gaya Ethaniel: You know Riddle I wanted to ask you if you heard of a physicist called David Bohm.
Riddle Sideways: not sure, think not, but bad with names (goes to wikipedia)
Yakuzza Lethecus: the limits of thought
Gaya Ethaniel: Looks like he saw common 'features' between science and 'spirituality'.
Gaya Ethaniel: Limits of thoughts?
Yakuzza Lethecus is also just looking for him
Yakuzza Lethecus: a book he had written
Gaya Ethaniel: I forgot to ask Pema about it last time I saw him at PaB :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
Yakuzza Lethecus: discussions between krishnamurti and bohm
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes I've been reading up on Kirshnamurti a bit.
Riddle Sideways: ah, I am remembering now
Yakuzza Lethecus: i am also just looking him up, so he´s new to me
Gaya Ethaniel: ah :)
Riddle Sideways: manhatten project
Gaya Ethaniel: Yes ...
Riddle Sideways: what the manhatten project did to many of the worker's minds / thoughts
Riddle Sideways: many became deep thinkers
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ... you think so?
Gaya Ethaniel: It kind of left deep marks on people who worked on it right?
Riddle Sideways: seems like many went into philosphy
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
Riddle Sideways: hopefully you have no deep marks in/on your life, but yes it does
Gaya Ethaniel: I wondered about this point when Michael Jackson died ...
Gaya Ethaniel: You know the song Ben?
Riddle Sideways: (Gaya is testing our memories today :)
Riddle Sideways: can not remember Ben
Gaya Ethaniel: He sang this when he was very little with quite moving sensitivity ... making some claim that one doesn't need to have same experiences in order to express them.
Yakuzza Lethecus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwAmpn8ISV0
Gaya Ethaniel: But like what you said ... maybe those marks are necessary, like a trigger?
Gaya Ethaniel: Sorry to test so early in the morning Riddle :)
Riddle Sideways: ooooo nice lyrics (I luv the internet search engines)
Gaya Ethaniel: Me too :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Thanks Yakuzza :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Ben - a dog
Riddle Sideways: There are songs... we all have them, that bring back those moments
Riddle Sideways: the same ol song, that same ol feeling, deep or ...
--BELL--
Yakuzza Lethecus: hehe, ben was a rat :)
Gaya Ethaniel: I guess ... though I don't think the feeling of unsatisfactoriness arises only from negative events.
Gaya Ethaniel: ah thought it was a dog.
Yakuzza Lethecus: A lonely boy, played by Lee H. Montgomery, becomes good friends with Ben, a rat. This rat is also the leader of a pack of vicious killer rats... more | add synopsis
Yakuzza Lethecus: out of imdb
Yakuzza Lethecus: doesn´t have good ratings better keep what you associate with that song :)
Gaya Ethaniel: ah ok
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Gaya Ethaniel: So ... these are feelings that exist/picked up rather than being 'discovered' you mean Riddle?
Riddle Sideways: yes, better to keep our thoguhts, associations of OUR songs , not take other peoples
Riddle Sideways: not sure Gaya
Riddle Sideways: some are
Gaya Ethaniel: I think that commentator on M Jackson ignored the fact that Jackson had a highly unusual childhood ... probably affected him and perhaps helped him to express certain feelings beyond his age.
Riddle Sideways: what does it do to our thinings ... to have deeply related on personal non-influenced way with lyrics and chord structures and form our own meanings
Riddle Sideways: then read that it was about a rat
Gaya Ethaniel: yeah ... I couldn't believe it was about a rat [or dog] when I first heard it :)
Gaya Ethaniel: Who knows ... we can't ask him anymore.
Riddle Sideways: not sure that it really matters
Riddle Sideways: is it what it means to you
Riddle Sideways: or what you've been told
Yakuzza Lethecus: It doens´t there are many songs like the titanic song by celine dion
Riddle Sideways: or the product of his life
Yakuzza Lethecus: or vangelis 1492
Gaya Ethaniel nods ... that's true Riddle.
Yakuzza Lethecus: that are just great songs or music not necesserily related to the movies
Riddle Sideways: or Rhapsody in Blue
Gaya Ethaniel: Actually our own experiences act like filters when we listen to music or look at arts.
Riddle Sideways: or make coffee
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Riddle Sideways: or appreciate this chat
Gaya Ethaniel: I like Lebanese style best :)
Riddle Sideways: the sun arose once more this morning
Riddle Sideways: like it always does
Riddle Sideways: and we were different for it
Riddle Sideways: David Bynes "Same as it ever was, same as it ever was..."
Riddle Sideways: *r
Gaya Ethaniel thinks.
Gaya Ethaniel: I will ask you what prompted you to become an activist next time Riddle if I remember :)
Riddle Sideways: yes, another long subject
Gaya Ethaniel: You promised to tell us all about it for a while now :)
Riddle Sideways: opps, I thought it was just a way to get out of telling
Gaya Ethaniel guffaws/
Riddle Sideways: (caught)
Gaya Ethaniel: Off the hook today with time :)
--BELL--
Gaya Ethaniel: Have a good day both :)
Riddle Sideways: whew, thanks
Gaya Ethaniel: :)
Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
Riddle Sideways: bye
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