2009.08.10 07:00 - Nature, of Identity

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    Kallie Kira: hi Alexandra
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello
    Alexandra Sharkfin: Is the meeting taking place soon?
    Kallie Kira: yes, the meeting is taking place now
    Alexandra Sharkfin: may I join you?
    Kallie Kira: yes of course
    Kallie Kira: are you here for the play as being discussion?
    Alexandra Sharkfin: yes, exactly
    Kallie Kira: please have a seat :)


    Alexandra Sharkfin: actually, I am here because of a project I am participating in.
    Kallie Kira: I see, what is that?
    Alexandra Sharkfin: is Kiremimi Tigerpaw coming?
    Kallie Kira: I don't know
    Kallie Kira: whoever shows up shows up
    Alexandra Sharkfin: I understand
    Alexandra Sharkfin: I am quite new IN SL
    Kallie Kira: are you familiar with the group? have you attended before?
    Kallie Kira: yes, I saw your profile
    Alexandra Sharkfin: no, it would be my first time participating, but I do know what the group is about
    Kallie Kira: ok, also that the chat is recorded?
    Kallie Kira: and put on the web?
    Alexandra Sharkfin: I see "recording", so I figuerd out
    Alexandra Sharkfin: KIRA, right?
    doug Sosa: morning
    Kallie Kira: are you ok with your comments being in the log?
    Kallie Kira: hi Doug :)
    Kallie Kira: this is play as being which is part of Kira
    Alexandra Sharkfin: rather so, if I have anything interesting to say
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello
    Kallie Kira: what is your project Alexandra?
    Alexandra Sharkfin: well, it's a project about the nature of our identity in virtual world
    doug Sosa: interesting!
    Kallie Kira: and ...? :)
    Kallie Kira: so this is an assignment?
    Alexandra Sharkfin: it's just a beginning. I am trying to trace how we negotiate our identity with avatars we choose as our representation
    Alexandra Sharkfin: It's more than an assigment, I guess.
    Kallie Kira: there are lots of Kira activities to participate in... this particular one can be pretty personal :)


    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello everyone
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello
    Kallie Kira: hi Yakuzza :)
    doug Sosa: morning.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: not really :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: afternoon :)
    doug Sosa: well, if we get up late :)
    Kallie Kira: :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: do you have any particular topics that you choose for a meeting?
    Kallie Kira: this particular group is engaged in a form of micro-meditation where every 15 minutes we stop for 9 seconds .... we meet here to discuss our experiences ... and other things :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: good morning pema
    Kallie Kira: hi Pema :)
    doug Sosa: morning (afternoon)


    Pema Pera: Hi Kallie & friends :-)
    Kallie Kira: hi Stevenaia :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello stev
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello
    stevenaia Michinaga: waiting for pillow to rezz
    Kallie Kira: we are just getting started, explaining a little to Alexandra whom if I understand correctly is one of Kiremimi's students :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: exactly
    Pema Pera: oh, hi Alexandra!
    Pema Pera: welcome to Play as Being
    stevenaia Michinaga: Kiremimi?
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello:)
    Kallie Kira: the assignment is to explore the nature of identity in vw's :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: well, explain is a big word:)
    Kallie Kira: Kiremimi Tigerpaw is a Kira board member and professor in rl :)
    Pema Pera: yes, I heard from Kiremimi about it, and actually Kiremimi is sitting here next to me in San Francisco in RL -- as Eiko Ikegami, my wife :-)
    stevenaia Michinaga: thx
    Alexandra Sharkfin: :)
    Kallie Kira: ah, tell her she has a very good student doing homework! :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: that's nice to hear
    Pema Pera: And Eiko is saying hello to y'all !
    Kallie Kira: hey there Eiko :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello to professor Ikegami
    Alexandra Sharkfin: :)


    Pema Pera: I'm asking Kiremimi to join us for a moment, hang on!
    Kallie Kira: excellent
    doug Sosa: hm.
    Pema Pera: she's getting curious now . . . .
    Alexandra Sharkfin: ok,great
    stevenaia Michinaga: checks dog for eaten homework
    Pema Pera: hehehe
    Kallie Kira: while we wait I thought I'd acknowledge your last 100 days post Pema
    Kallie Kira: I thought I would respond but don't want to hog the channel, maybe some others will chime in :)
    Pema Pera: well, Eiko has postponed downloading the latest SL version . . . and now it seems you have to do so to get in; it may not work today
    Kallie Kira: ok
    Kallie Kira: we'll be here a while :)


    Pema Pera: (Eiko/Kiremimi is giving up, she is preparing a talk she has to give here in a few hours)
    Pema Pera: Thank you, Kallie!
    Pema Pera: It was fun yesterday, to do those explorations with the whole group
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey sophia
    Pema Pera: at 7 am and then again at 1 pm
    Pema Pera: Hi Sophia!
    Alexandra Sharkfin: (anyhow, best greetings to her)
    Kallie Kira: hi Sophia :)
    Pema Pera: (thanks Alex!)
    Pema Pera: did you have any specific responses to the 100 days post, Kallie?
    Kallie Kira: not specific responses, just my own small wanderings :) same ballpark though
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pema Pera: do you want to share a random small wandering, by any chance?
    Kallie Kira: lol
    Kallie Kira: it seems terribly random atm :)
    Pema Pera: (I loved the description you sent a while ago, about letting it all go!)
    Kallie Kira: ah, for sure, you know that was an amazing thing .... being a big sentient blob :)
    Pema Pera: a new term, BSB . . . .
    Kallie Kira: lol
    Pema Pera: find your own BSB at PAB
    Kallie Kira: I was thinking about watching thoughts come and then go, having them pop up and then release
    Kallie Kira: I was listening to a jazz trio the other night ....
    Kallie Kira: at an upstairs place with a big picture window that looked out on the city
    Kallie Kira: and the door was open with the breeze coming up the stairwell
    Kallie Kira: and outside, in the breeze was a beautifully formed tree
    Kallie Kira: that as the music played would dance back and forth
    Kallie Kira: and my thoughts, coming and going
    Kallie Kira: would dance from branch to branch, waving around
    Kallie Kira: then go to the sky on the breeze
    Kallie Kira: totally does not make sense but there you have it
    Kallie Kira: and one of the thoughts I had and let go was
    Kallie Kira: that I have been kind of floating along a lot recently
    Kallie Kira: doing my thing
    Kallie Kira: but often seeing and then seeing something else
    Kallie Kira: not attached to any of it
    Kallie Kira: my own branches kind of dancing and letting things hop place to place
    Kallie Kira: then not caring, just letting it go, maybe into the air to another tree
    Kallie Kira: it is awesome
    Pema Pera: I can feel the branches swaying, Kal, what a great description!
    Kallie Kira: it was amazing, like a dance performed for me to Charlie Parker's music ... it was gorgeous
    Kallie Kira: so, not really doing 9sec exactly but feeling the space of it
    Pema Pera: :)
    sophia Placebo: lovely


    Kallie Kira: ha ha, probably just totally and irrevocably losing it :)
    Kallie Kira: anyone else care to share?
    Pema Pera: that would be good, Kal, you don't want to go back :-)
    Kallie Kira: lol, makes me wonder :)
    Kallie Kira: almost made a wish :)
    sophia Placebo: :)
    Pema Pera: which wish?
    Kallie Kira: I wish my buddy would come with me :)
    sophia Placebo: hehe
    Kallie Kira: or at least visit :)
    Pema Pera: hahaha
    sophia Placebo: is it that hard to drag him to here ?
    Pema Pera: wouldn't it be nice to let them join in our dreams and day dreams . . . .
    Kallie Kira: yes, to know someone *really* gets what you are trying to say or what you feel


    Kallie Kira: an interesting question about the nature of identity Alexandra :)
    Kallie Kira: for your assignment :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: it's definitely a complex issue, the "I" in the vw
    Kallie Kira: sure in vw, and even dare we say, rl? :)
    Pema Pera: :)
    Pema Pera: during Real Jazz
    Alexandra Sharkfin: have you ever thought about it more?
    Kallie Kira: I think it has crossed the minds of everyone here :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: true
    doug Sosa: How much unfreedom is in our thoughts now? My guess, and it is onlythat, is that a transcript of our real thoughts would dwarf the posted one.
    Kallie Kira: good point.... I only touched the barest elements of description of what happened


    stevenaia Michinaga: I must get back to work, was reading this log and posting my own.... see you all soon
    doug Sosa: ciao
    Kallie Kira: ok, bye :) I think most here are multi-tasking :)
    Pema Pera: I was wondering about that too, Kallie :-
    Pema Pera: or just very quiet :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i also use a 2nd monitor :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: one more or less only for sl :)
    Pema Pera: actually, meanwhile Kiremimi managed to download her latest update for SL
    Pema Pera: progress :)
    Kallie Kira: :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: I will have to leave soon, it's getting late in rl here
    Yakuzza Lethecus: where r you from alex ?
    Pema Pera: bye Alex!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
    Alexandra Sharkfin: Warsaw, Poland:)
    Kallie Kira: late/early/today/tomorrow .... all part of identity :)
    doug Sosa: ah, it is almost early!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: germany here :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: its 4:50 pm
    Alexandra Sharkfin: here you can actually feel how relative time is:)
    Pema Pera: California where I am (almost a separate country)
    doug Sosa: I am just up the peninsula fro Pema.
    Pema Pera: :)
    Kallie Kira: will be in your country Wed Pema and Doug :)
    Pema Pera: and Kallie is from the Lone Star (State) in the universe!
    Alexandra Sharkfin: :)
    Pema Pera: yes, looking forward to seeing you at SLCC, Kallie
    Kallie Kira: for sure :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: lol, texas, i had to google that


    Pema Pera: did you know that Eiko and Steven and Saki and I will all be there at the first day at least?
    doug Sosa: CC?
    Pema Pera: hehehe, Yak
    Kallie Kira: yes, the only former Republic in the U.S. :)
    Pema Pera: Second Life Community Convention, Doug
    Pema Pera: in San Francisco this year
    doug Sosa: ah! I will drive past..
    Kallie Kira: there is a roadrunner outside my window!
    Pema Pera: yeah!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hello kireminmi
    doug Sosa: beautiful!
    Pema Pera: there is a skyflyer in front of me :-)
    Kallie Kira: lol
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: hi,
    Pema Pera: Doug, for SLCC see http://www.slconvention.org/
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello :)


    Kallie Kira: we named him Chappie, he comes for the bugs :)
    Pema Pera: Kallie and Chappie -- could be an opera!
    Kallie Kira: hi there Kiremimi :)
    Kallie Kira: cues Tx version of Verdi :)
    Kallie Kira: some nice bird aria
    Pema Pera: was thinking of Porky and Bess
    Kallie Kira: LOL
    Kallie Kira: even better
    Kallie Kira: just heard a Verdi aria, it's on my mind :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: hello:) I must say it's one of the most beautiful vw identities I have seen :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: I just wanted to see the Play as Being because I read the etxts
    Kallie Kira: lovely on the inside too :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: and got interested
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: very good
    Pema Pera: (just to wrap up from before: "I've got plenty of nothing", Kallie <-- your account, and Porky & Bess song)


    Pema Pera: glad you made it Kiremimi!
    Kallie Kira: lol, perfect!
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: thanks
    Pema Pera: you'll finally meet Kallie at SLCC in a few days
    Kallie Kira: yes, plus my sister Cal :)
    Kallie Kira: we all met at Kira Japan :)
    doug Sosa: i must go. thanks
    Kallie Kira: bye Doug :)
    Pema Pera: bye Doug!
    Alexandra Sharkfin: bye bye
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: it was a very very popular presentation.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye
    Kallie Kira: I'm so glad it went well :)
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: i am still getting very positive reactions from kira japan members
    Kallie Kira: lol, great!
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: one of them said that they wanted to hear more                                    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: so, you did a great promotion for it
    Kallie Kira: excellent! that's the game..... send out a little appetizer, have them return for a meal :)


    Pema Pera: I'll have to sneak out, back to RL -- bye Yak, Kallie, nice to meet you Alexandra!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: bye pema
    Kallie Kira: yes, have to make some appetizers :)
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: Ya,
    Kallie Kira: bye y'all .... see you soon :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: Unfortunatelly I need to go to. It was a pleasure meeting you
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: I am also attending the american sociological association convention
    Pema Pera: bye Europe and Texas!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: ok bye everyone
    Kiremimi Tigerpaw: nice to know, Alexsandra, that yo are in
    Kallie Kira: good luck with your project Alex :)
    Alexandra Sharkfin: thank you :)
    Kallie Kira: bye!

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