2009.09.04 01:00 - Flowers and boxes

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    Wol Euler was guardian and commenter for this session.


    I sat alone for half an hour listening to birdsong and tweaking the Autologging scripts, until Fael logged in. We talked about commerce and geekery.


    Fael Illyar: Hi Wol :)

    Wol Euler: hello fael

    Fael Illyar: crashed in a tp... that's been a while :)

    Wol Euler: heh, I wondered what happened

    Fael Illyar: I joined DSN as desiger now.

    Wol Euler: cool.

    Fael Illyar: stayed up way to late to get everything ready that it'd go out this morning :)

    Wol Euler: :)

    Wol Euler: ah, but it'll be worth it when the hordes start hammering at your doors.

    Wol Euler: brb, more coffee

    Fael Illyar: yes, hopefully it is hordes :)

    Fael Illyar: 370 packages of the gift got sent out this morning :)

    Wol Euler: were those individual requests?

    Fael Illyar: do you know how DSN works?

    Wol Euler: nope :)

    Fael Illyar: well, basically, there are designers (283 for the moment) and subscribers (9248 for the moment)

    Fael Illyar: I'm now included in both counts :P

    Wol Euler: :)

    Fael Illyar: designers set up dropboxes with a free gift in them and set it up to send on a certain channel. There are 9 channels.

    Fael Illyar: subscribers join what channels they want and receive at most one gift per channel every morning

    Wol Euler: interesting.

    Fael Illyar: no doubles

    Fael Illyar: so, basically, I subscribed :)

    Fael Illyar: the starter kit for designer cost me 390L

    Wol Euler: oh, I expected that to be far higher.

    Fael Illyar: Yes, I was O.O at it being so cheap

    Wol Euler: do you get the list of 370 names? (I expect not)

    Fael Illyar: I do, I can even put my own script in the dropbox to get link messages with keys of those getting sent the gifts

    Wol Euler: so you could watch for them and greet them specially as they entered your store...

    Fael Illyar: the package also comes with a scanner object that they apparently use to get statistics on how many have entered your store.

    Fael Illyar: but this is wider advertising than I've easily reached with any other method :)

    Wol Euler nods

    Fael Illyar: brilliant idea all in all :)

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    Wol Euler: now just wait for the visitors to overrun you.

    Fael Illyar: Yeah :P


    Fael Illyar: I put out the pink hairflower as a gift in accessories channel :)

    Wol Euler grins

    Fael Illyar: they also wanted a picture to show for if they happen to blog my gift. I made this

    Wol Euler: good, nice colour matching :)

    Fael Illyar: all the same color, really :P

    Wol Euler: that#s what I meant :)

    Fael Illyar: except hair, black :)

    Fael Illyar: the aspect in that is 4:3 but I sized it as they suggested :P

    Wol Euler: if you should remake it, that is a change I'd recommend. Fix the layer with your body, it is stretched horizontally

    Fael Illyar: it will show 320x240 on their blog (the notecard said to blame lindens)

    Wol Euler: but that's not obvious at first glance

    Fael Illyar: layer?

    Wol Euler: well, I'm assuming you made it in Photoshop :)

    Fael Illyar: gimp

    Wol Euler: force of habit

    Fael Illyar: + inkscape

    Wol Euler: but gimp has layering?

    Wol Euler: you didn't put the text and image and soft corner framing all on the same set of pixels?

    Fael Illyar: oh right, the streching, is intentional

    Wol Euler: ok

    Fael Illyar: it'll end up scaled to 320x240

    Wol Euler: aaaaah, gotcha.

    Wol Euler: ok ;)

    Wol Euler: one day SL will grow up and be able to handle non-square images

    Fael Illyar: it got a hazy horizontal thing from somewhere I'm not sure of but I thought it looks nice so I left it.

    Wol Euler: mmhmm, a good effect.

    Fael Illyar: perhaps something with inkscape and gimp's lanczos resizing filter combined do

    Fael Illyar: I can't see it in the not resized image

    Wol Euler: oh, how odd.

    Fael Illyar: oh, propably also since it was scaled to different aspect ratio

    Wol Euler: brb

    Fael Illyar: yes... cubic scaling algorithm doesn't do it

    Wol Euler: hmmmmm

    Wol Euler: sounds like a bug, IMHO

    Fael Illyar: well, the lanczos filter works hard to keep details and to not blur the image...

    Fael Illyar: for aspect ratio keeping scales, it's quite good.

    Fael Illyar: the image looks as sharp as before scaling

    Fael Illyar: got to remember this quirk though :)

    Wol Euler: mmhmm

    Fael Illyar: I'll set up another dropbox with my pink tattoo today I think. Just, the texture needs fixing.

    Wol Euler: can you join as many channels as you want? (as designer)

    Fael Illyar: all 9 if you wish

    Wol Euler: $$$?

    Fael Illyar: but there are rules on what you can put in them.

    Fael Illyar: so far only the starter kit cost




    Fael Illyar: oh, I might write a notecard with the link message protocol for changing colors and give you the script and notecard :)

    Fael Illyar: then we can have recording status shown with color :)

    Wol Euler: ah

    Wol Euler: I had had a different idea, actually: make the flower purly decorative, with a long slow colour change

    Wol Euler: like from pink to royal blue in 40 minutes

    Wol Euler: (next colour chosen randomly)

    Fael Illyar: well, that'd work

    Fael Illyar: although I do like the idea of color showing what it's doing :P

    Wol Euler nods.

    Wol Euler: but if people ignore the word "recording", they might also not remember what the colour means.

    Fael Illyar: not saying remove the word :)

    Wol Euler: nor I, I'm talking about distraction and inattention and human nature ;)

    Fael Illyar: Well, the primary reason I wanted it to change color according to mode is that it'd be something people can wonder about and then perhaps "get it" one day :P

    Wol Euler: ah

    Fael Illyar: and then go "oh my god, that's neat!" ... or not :)

    Wol Euler: fair enough :)

    Fael Illyar: plus, for someone who knows the colors, it's obvious without even focusing your eyes if the recording is still on

    Wol Euler smiles

    Wol Euler: btw, http://wondermark.com/549/

    Fael Illyar: Haha, yes :)

    Wol Euler: not that I have ever done anything like that, oh no.

    Fael Illyar: only applies in optimizing for just yourself :P

    Wol Euler: right.

    Wol Euler: but I do hate having to backtrack.

    Fael Illyar smiles.

    Fael Illyar: and also, if the problem he was solving is solvable, it won't be just one time thing :P

    Wol Euler: heheheheh

    Wol Euler: long-term optimization

    Fael Illyar: yep :)

    Fael Illyar: for something you'll do hundreds of times, it's worth it :)

    Wol Euler laughs

    Wol Euler: speaking of things one does hundreds of times, I shall have to leave for work :-/

    Fael Illyar: Ah, ok, have fun :)

    Wol Euler: not likely, but WTH.

    Fael Illyar: who cares, have fun anyway ;)

    Wol Euler: nice to see you, Fael. I hope that the subscribers turn up in droves.

    Wol Euler: bfn

    Fael Illyar: see you later :)

    Fael Illyar: me too, thank you :)


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