2009.09.14 13:00 - Exchanging Electrons

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Stim Morane. The comments are by Stim Morane.

    Wol Euler: monday 14 september, 1pm = 13:00
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hiya, nabend wol
    Yakuzza Lethecus: altes wollkneul :)
    Wol Euler: heheheheheeh
    Wol Euler: tja, es sieht schon besser aus wenn ich stehe :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: jep :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: meinen geschmackt trifft es nicht :)
    Wol Euler: fühlt sich doch recht gut an, als ob ich mich in eine dicke Decke eingewickelt hättte :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: aber steampunk war super, und einige andere kleidungsstücke auch
    Wol Euler: ja, würde ich auch zustimmen.
    Yakuzza Lethecus: also hey scah
    Wol Euler: diese Kleider von Eshi Otawara sind eher als skulpturen als Kleider zu geniessen.
    Wol Euler: hello scath
    Wol Euler: and here comes storm, if I'm not mistaken
    Wol Euler: oh, pila :)
    Wol Euler: hello
    Pila Mulligan: hi Wol, Yak and Scath
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Pila
    Pila Mulligan: you look well bundeled Wol
    Wol Euler: heheheh
    Wol Euler: yeah, this dress doesn't really work when sitting down
    Wol Euler: but it feels pretty comfy, like being wrapped up in a thick quilt
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i hope nobody asked me anything yesterday after 2:30 i think i fall litererally asleep during the homework
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pila Mulligan: :0
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes, we noticed:))
    Pila Mulligan: I hope it was restful
    Wol Euler: hello stim
    Pila Mulligan: hi Stim
    Scathach Rhiadra: hello Stim
    Wol Euler: hello bertram
    Stim Morane: Hi everyone!
    Pila Mulligan: hi Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: hello everybody ... :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Bertram
    Yakuzza Lethecus: yeah, i got to get up at 4:30 in the morning and it was already 11:30 pm for me, i didn´t intend to fall asleep but it was not a good idea to close my eyes because it was in voice :)
    Pila Mulligan: incidentally, an idea for those interested in the future of virtual worlds on opensim -- you can register your avi name for free at OSGrid, the largest of the open sim grids -- then it is yours there too
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.osgrid.org/elgg/account/register.php
    Scathach Rhiadra: mmm, we heard some snoring:)
    Bertram Jacobus: hi gaya ... :-)
    Pila Mulligan: hi Gaya
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello everyone :)
    Yakuzza Lethecus: what do we have to change in the regular sl client pila ?
    Yakuzza Lethecus: i have the hippoclient so far
    Pila Mulligan: you add a line to the shortcut that launches the SL borwser
    Yakuzza Lethecus: and is it possible to teleport to the osgrid out of the secondlife grid ?
    Pila Mulligan: I have niot used the other browsers, so I do ont know about hipppo
    Pila Mulligan: not yet, TP is not yet available
    Wol Euler: no, SL doesn't connect to the OSgrid
    Pila Mulligan: but within opensim it is
    Pila Mulligan: not yet
    Yakuzza Lethecus: so it´s not possible to have a scripted object ?
    Wol Euler: you can use hte normal SL browser to get to osgrid, there's an instructions page at their website
    Yakuzza Lethecus: that teleport from sl to opensim ?
    Pila Mulligan: this is what you add : -multiple -loginuri http://osgrid.org:8002 -loginpage http://osgrid.org/loginscreen.php -helperuri http://osgrid.org/
    Wol Euler: no, no connection.
    Wol Euler: (no teleport9
    Pila Mulligan: people are scripting and making stuff like craxy already in pensim
    Pila Mulligan: but the SL scripts are coyrighted, so they doont transfer, as I understand it
    Gaya Ethaniel: Yakuzza, did you fall asleep last night btw?
    Wol Euler smiles
    Pila Mulligan: he confessed just before you arrived Gaya
    Gaya Ethaniel: If so, maybe it's too late for people in the central European time zone ...
    Pila Mulligan: hi Mick
    Wol Euler: hello mick
    Bertram Jacobus: hey mick :-)
    Stim Morane: hi mick
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Mick :)
    Mickorod Renard: Hiya
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Mick
    Mickorod Renard: sorry I been missing,,but net was down
    Gaya Ethaniel: oops sorry I didn't mean to type that in the local chat ... :(
    Mickorod Renard: have I missed anything?
    Wol Euler: corvi!
    Yakuzza Lethecus: hey corvi, mick
    Bertram Jacobus: hello corvi ! ... :-)
    Pila Mulligan: hi Corvi
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Corvi
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Corvi
    Stim Morane: Hi Corvi!
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ohhh And Gaya...
    Stim Morane: nice to see you, Corvi
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello Corvi :)
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: and you, Stim..nice to see everyone..I dont' think I've been in this big a group for a while.
    Mickorod Renard: gig but quiet
    Mickorod Renard: big*
    Bertram Jacobus: so different : i mostly sit in such big groups here ... :-)
    Pila Mulligan: during yetredays voice chat I mentioned my thoughts about interconnectednes including all living beings, including animals and even trees -- there seemed to be some skpeticism there :) -- any thoughts here?
    Bertram Jacobus: but i don´t find it very important whether a group is big or small ... ;-)
    Wol Euler thinks of Maxine
    Wol Euler thinks of Maxine's rabbit and smiles
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Wol Euler: wb gaya
    Mickorod Renard: I have felt that too Pila,,but sometimes,,when I feel a bit stressed I loose that feeling
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: uh..in a very physical way we exchange bits of ourselves with everything
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: we breathe out and the tree breathes in...
    Pila Mulligan: that's kind of how I see it too
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: is that what you mean?
    Pila Mulligan: yes, maybe more too, energy wise
    Corvuscorva Nightfire considers this...well we're exchanging electrons with everythign we brush by..
    Pila Mulligan: and it is a sensitivity that is affected by other demands of the sesnes Mick
    Mickorod Renard: I like the feeling on interconnectedness very much,,and when I am not feeling it I identify it with not feeling as happy as I could
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Mickorod Renard: yes Pila,,exactly
    Pila Mulligan: my closest neighbors are a couple of horses that often hang out at a fence near my house -- we have a freindly greeting when they are there
    Mickorod Renard: managing that time of unconnectedness is a problem for me,,I feel very frustrated smetimes
    Wol Euler: :)
    Mickorod Renard: thats nice Pila
    Pila Mulligan: it is, indeed
    Wol Euler: hello doug
    Pila Mulligan: hi DOug
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Dog
    Gaya Ethaniel was thinking about 'interconnectedness' today too.
    Mickorod Renard: Doug,,sorry
    Gaya Ethaniel: Hello doug :)
    doug Sosa: quiety hi.
    Stim Morane: Hi Doug
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi doug
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Doug
    Bertram Jacobus: for me the connectedness of all is a permanent reality
    Bertram Jacobus: and hello doug ... :-)
    doug Sosa: :)
    Wol Euler: hello agatha, come down and join us :)
    Wol Euler looks up and grins
    Bertram Jacobus: huhu agatha ! ;-) - or stay up if you like :o)
    Wol Euler: seems to have scared her away
    doug Sosa: "permanent" feels to me conceptual, not so experiential. Do we need it? Maybe.
    Gaya Ethaniel is lagging so will just listen what shows up in the chat window.
    Bertram Jacobus: for me it seems to be a fact doug
    Mickorod Renard: contrasts sometimes provide clarity
    doug Sosa: no fact without theory?
    Pila Mulligan: maybe two different colroations there, in the word's use
    Bertram Jacobus: nothing at all in the end may be
    Bertram Jacobus: but to use a word you used doug : feelings are very real to me. and i feel also like written
    Bertram Jacobus: when ever i´m concious about that or touched
    Bertram Jacobus: and that´s most of the time
    Bertram Jacobus: "okay" : sometimes i´m so in my thoughts, in my own thoughts ... that i may not see, feel or think about something else. but that does not mean to me that the link to all is interrupted then
    Mickorod Renard: I long for a feeling of permanent connectivnes,,and also internal harmony
    Mickorod Renard: but wonder whether I would become used too it and loose the special feeling it gives
    Bertram Jacobus: that are two very different aspects mick i think
    Bertram Jacobus: harmony and being connected
    Mickorod Renard: maybe
    Bertram Jacobus: being connected can be very heavy
    Bertram Jacobus: so my experience
    Bertram Jacobus: and harmony : i like it very much, too ... *small sigh* ... ;-)
    Mickorod Renard: I feel very connected to life as a whole,,but not in a harmonious way,,I feel ruthless sometimes in the rush of life
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: ruthless?
    Mickorod Renard: if that makes sense
    Mickorod Renard: yes, in that its too intense
    Mickorod Renard: and some has to be disposed with
    Mickorod Renard: rather than enjoyed
    Corvuscorva Nightfire thinks about this...
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Corvuscorva Nightfire grins over and keeps thinking
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: that sounds related to Doug's thread of choosing what is "important"
    Bertram Jacobus: do you have an idea, how that could change mick ?
    Mickorod Renard: no..I think I keep coming to cross roads,,and maybe stay on the same route for fear of change
    Bertram Jacobus: i think, that that is also a matter of time ...
    Stim Morane: Yes
    Mickorod Renard: is waiting complacency?
    Bertram Jacobus: in german there is a phrase "many drips brake even a stone" ... in this way ...
    Stim Morane: :)
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,I know the saying
    Mickorod Renard: I have changed,with time,,but my surrounding life is still mad
    Bertram Jacobus: so not waiting, but trying to do something, to think about, to change - as it seems you do already (?) :-)
    Mickorod Renard: grin,,yes indeed
    Wol Euler: hello belily
    Mickorod Renard: hi Beilily
    Bertram Jacobus: and the surrounding ... can be a challenge ! i experience that by my own very intense at the moment (!) ... :-)
    Bellily Millar: late as usual. greetings all! cheeky grin
    Bertram Jacobus: hello belily :-)
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Bellily
    Mickorod Renard: a very nice cheeky grin
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: i Bellily
    Bellily Millar: smirking even more broadly..
    Bellily Millar: what were you all talking about?
    Mickorod Renard: Pila started it
    Pila Mulligan: interconnectedness
    Stim Morane: Hi Bellily
    Mickorod Renard: Pila Mulligan: during yetredays voice chat I mentioned my thoughts about interconnectednes including all living beings, including animals and even trees -- there seemed to be some skpeticism there :) -- any thoughts here?
    Bellily Millar: ja, we are all part of one life-love-energy thing.. how specifically do you mean?
    Bertram Jacobus: some of you may know thich nhat hanh (?) - he talks a lot about "interbeing" - in my eyes that is the same point. do you see that so too ? :-)
    Stim Morane: this is his own, somewhat ideosyncratic interpretation of the Buddhist teaching of dependent origination.
    Stim Morane: it works in some ways, not all.
    Bertram Jacobus: so it´s not that what pila means stim ?
    Pila Mulligan: well, let's see, on this idea maybe we can also consider the gaia theory, the noosphere of Tiehard de Chardin, Jung' s collective unconscious ...
    Stim Morane: yes
    Pila Mulligan: it is not an odd idea :)
    Stim Morane: there are lots of versions of this
    Stim Morane: you could add Taoism to the list to
    Stim Morane: *too
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Bertram Jacobus: but not thich nhat hanh´s intersein stim ? (sorry, i did not understand yet)
    Bellily Millar: so that's when the ego comes in and wants to be him/herself, unique. is that where the trouble starts?
    Stim Morane: Sorry, Bertram, I think we were just saying it's a rather common perspective.
    Pila Mulligan: as in seeing it my way, Belilly?
    Bellily Millar: maybe pila. i don't completely understand yet. comes from being tardy
    Pila Mulligan: I would affirm the idea that people tend to see things uniquely according to their own ideas and predispositions
    Bellily Millar: "my way" - oh! my way changes throughout the day and this life, and when we use the present moment to differentliate ourselves, we are forgetting about all the other states we have been in that would allow us to connect..
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Mickorod Renard: I have noticed that when I learn of something,,it follows that I become in contact with things relevant to what I have learnt,,this then poses the question about connectivness and also ignorance is bliss
    Stim Morane: :)
    Wol Euler: hello ara
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi, Arabella!
    Pila Mulligan: hi Arabella
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Ara
    Scathach Rhiadra: Hello Ara
    arabella Ella: Hiya everyone!
    Bertram Jacobus: hello ara ! ... :-)
    Stim Morane: Hi arabella
    Bellily Millar: Ara, Ilike te way you just floated in... :)
    arabella Ella: :)
    arabella Ella: like a snowdrop from the sky perhaps ...
    Bertram Jacobus: i´ll leave. ty all and have a good time please !
    arabella Ella: (wishful thinking)
    Stim Morane: bye, Bertram
    arabella Ella: bye Bert
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Bert
    Scathach Rhiadra: god night Bertram
    Mickorod Renard: by Bert
    Wol Euler: 'night bert
    Scathach Rhiadra: good*
    Bertram Jacobus: (and may all beings be happy) ...
    Mickorod Renard: and for u too Bert
    Bertram Jacobus: ty again
    Pila Mulligan: bye Bert (was away)
    Mickorod Renard: I love the feeling of interconnectedness when out in the country
    Mickorod Renard: walking and chilled out
    arabella Ella: u mean the feeling of being as one with everything around you Mick?
    Mickorod Renard: yes,,but sometimes its better at work to be slightly on the outside..looking in to get a better perspective
    arabella Ella: sounds a bit like codependent arising to me ...
    Wol Euler: :)
    Mickorod Renard: well I get lost in it all,,but cope as best as I can
    Stim Morane: :)
    arabella Ella: sounds like a familiar feeling to me Mick too
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Zeal
    Zeal Moonites: hi
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: Hi
    Yakuzza Lethecus: night everyone
    Pila Mulligan: bye Yak
    Mickorod Renard: nite yaku
    Stim Morane: I have to go too.
    Pila Mulligan: bye Stim
    Stim Morane: Bye everyone
    Scathach Rhiadra: good night Yakuzza
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: bye, Yakuzza, Stim.
    arabella Ella: bye Stim bye Yaku
    Scathach Rhiadra: good night Stim
    Wol Euler: 'night stim, take care
    Mickorod Renard: bye stim
    Stim Morane: :)
    Mickorod Renard: ;)
    Stim Morane: I hope interconnectedness works out in a positive way for you all!
    Scathach Rhiadra: :)
    Pila Mulligan: thanks
    arabella Ella: :)
    Mickorod Renard: he he
    Scathach Rhiadra: I must go too, good night all:)
    Pila Mulligan: bye Scath
    Mickorod Renard: nite Scath
    arabella Ella: nite Scath
    Wol Euler: 'night scath
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: G;night Scath...good to see you.
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: time for me to go as well.
    Scathach Rhiadra: yes good to see you too Corvi:)
    Wol Euler: I shall have to go too, goodnight all.
    Mickorod Renard: nite corvi
    Pila Mulligan: bye Wol and Corvi
    Corvuscorva Nightfire: night all
    Mickorod Renard: hang on wol
    Wol Euler: bye for now
    Wol Euler: mmm?
    Mickorod Renard: just checking out ur outfit
    arabella Ella: nite Wol
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Wol Euler grins and twirls
    Mickorod Renard: twirl
    Mickorod Renard: very nice
    Wol Euler: :)
    Pila Mulligan: billowy
    arabella Ella: lovely Wol :)
    Wol Euler: looks better standing than sitting.
    arabella Ella: original too
    Wol Euler: hello arch
    Wol Euler: gotta go, take care
    Pila Mulligan must be going also
    Mickorod Renard: bye Pila
    Mickorod Renard: Hi Arch
    Pila Mulligan: hi and bye Arch, and bye Mick and Ara
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi and by
    Archmage Atlantis: Ah well, way too late
    arabella Ella: nite Pila
    arabella Ella: ah Hiya Arch
    Mickorod Renard: Arch,,i have to go too
    Mickorod Renard: sorry to leave you
    Archmage Atlantis: ccccccccccccccccccccccccxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx....
    Archmage Atlantis: oops
    Mickorod Renard: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx to u too Arch,,he he
    arabella Ella: is that a code Arch?
    Archmage Atlantis: Yeah, its called fall asleep at the PC, make dumb mistakes, after being late :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh well
    arabella Ella: i know the feeling :)
    arabella Ella: i must leave too Arch
    arabella Ella: nite nite
    Archmage Atlantis: Go, nite

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