2009.09.23 01:00 - Birth and Death

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    The Guardian for this meeting was Fael Illyar. The comments are by Fael Illyar.

    Archmage Atlantis: The 2nd way is to go to shops here in SL
    Archmage Atlantis: Hi, hone
    Fael Illyar: Hello Love :)
    WuuCkii Tigerauge: okay thanks
    Fael Illyar: Hello WuuCkii :)
    WuuCkii Tigerauge: hej
    Archmage Atlantis: Fael knows a lot more than I do
    Archmage Atlantis: Fael, Wuuckii asked about getting clothes here in SL withouth spending real $
    Fael Illyar: I have packages I could give...
    Archmage Atlantis: You know a lot more about shopping than I do
    Fael Illyar: I have no idea what's in them but... maybe there's something you might like
    Fael Illyar: and shops usually have freebies too.
    Archmage Atlantis: How does he find shops?
    Fael Illyar: Myself, I talked to people, went to see places they liked.
    Fael Illyar: one thing that works, I hear is to see if people whose style you like have interesting looking shops in their picks
    Fael Illyar: but that usually needs money but might get you nice freebies too
    Archmage Atlantis: How did you wind up here Wuuchii, this isn't an easy sim to get to by accident
    WuuCkii Tigerauge: thanks
    Fael Illyar: those are boxed, you'll need to rez and open them before you can get them
    Fael Illyar: and those two are not boxed, they should appear as folders in your inventory
    Fael Illyar: That'll propably keep you busy for a while, to sort those out.
    WuuCkii Tigerauge: thanks
    Fael Illyar: then there's this.
    Fael Illyar: lots of notecards about things in SL.
    Archmage Atlantis: But, putting in a word for PaB, there are smart good ppl here
    Fael Illyar: including ways to get money without exchanging it for real money
    Fael Illyar: (mind you, SL money is just as real)
    Archmage Atlantis: This meeting is generally more esoteric tho
    Archmage Atlantis: Meaning of life and all that junk
    WuuCkii Tigerauge: gtg sry bye bye
    Archmage Atlantis: Blesssings Wuu
    Fael Illyar: Have fun Wuu :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Fael, is my time off, isn't it 30 min past meeting time?
    Fael Illyar: It is :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Are you able to be the guardian?, I am not
    Fael Illyar: Well, I could yes.
    Archmage Atlantis: ty
    Archmage Atlantis: Now we shall listen to the bell
    Fael Illyar: well, not time yet to close ther recording :)
    Archmage Atlantis: I mean the 15 min bell, silly
    Archmage Atlantis: Oops
    Fael Illyar: (I sent you some IMs, off the record :P)
    Archmage Atlantis: Okkk
    Archmage Atlantis: Seems we expect ppl to come here and "know" certain things already
    Fael Illyar: we do?
    Archmage Atlantis: Are there no more teachers?....is self learning the entire new world?
    Fael Illyar: lots of teachers at Buddha Center :P
    Archmage Atlantis: Lots of opinions, I do not consider that teaching
    Fael Illyar: opinion is rife, yes :)
    Archmage Atlantis: Do you think a physical place is a repository of meaning, or is a "spritual" space stronger in that role
    Fael Illyar: but nothing new in that, is there?
    Archmage Atlantis: Beloved, for 60,000 yrs there has been nothing new
    Archmage Atlantis: Yet we learn slowly
    Fael Illyar: frankly, I'm not sure what you take to be the difference between physical and "spiritual".
    Archmage Atlantis: I the purest form, both serve equally well
    Archmage Atlantis: But most of the children are not ready for that understanding
    Fael Illyar: I still do not understand what is the difference between this physical place and this "spiritual" space you compare.
    Archmage Atlantis: You remember how Koya M got his name
    Archmage Atlantis: Oh sorry, I got to a different space, hyperjumped?????
    Fael Illyar: I do remember some of how Koya M got his name. Although, I'm not clear at all from where it came from :)
    Archmage Atlantis: This forum, building, place in SL is as a RLplace to me
    Archmage Atlantis: I understand it could disappear today
    Archmage Atlantis: As did Alexandria Novus
    Fael Illyar: yes... and yet it does not diminish it's importance.
    Fael Illyar: if it did disappear, there could be a new place or perhaps a few of them.
    Archmage Atlantis: When the day comes, it shalll disappear
    Fael Illyar: yes, except from memories of those who've been here.
    Archmage Atlantis: And you are correct, as a blossum opens, is pollunated, make seed to spread, and dies.....of such is this place
    Archmage Atlantis: Extie and I would call it a Meme
    Fael Illyar: maybe the first but certainly not the last...
    Fael Illyar: and yes, Meme I agree with as the term :)
    Fael Illyar: but it is already transforming, changing it's form...
    Archmage Atlantis: Yes, it has been a hour and I am the only one here.....you came out of love, not committment
    Fael Illyar: Yes, that is true.
    Fael Illyar: Tomorrow, I come from commitment.
    Archmage Atlantis: Then the time has come for this place to change
    Fael Illyar: tomorrow is my weekly commitment.
    Archmage Atlantis: The professors have their results, they can publish their papers, and feed grad students from the carcass
    Fael Illyar: are you sure there is a carcass? perhaps it's simply an empty shell?
    Fael Illyar: become useless and discarded
    Archmage Atlantis: You separate the soul and the body of this place
    Archmage Atlantis: Are you comfortable with that?
    Fael Illyar: the body has never been meaningful for me...
    Fael Illyar: ah, slight correction. The exact body has never been meaningful to me.
    Fael Illyar: there will be others
    Archmage Atlantis: I will give blessing tothis place, then let us go in memory
    Archmage Atlantis: Our Creator, our Sustainer, we have no other but you Our Creator, our Sustainer, help us for your own sake Our Creator, our Sustainer, grant us a blessed New Year Our Creator, our Sustainer, annul all miscreant decrees against us Our Creator, our Sustainer, annul the plots of our enemies Our Creator, our Sustainer, rid us of tyrants Our Creator, our Sustainer, rid us of pestilence, sword, famine, captivity,and destruction Our Creator, our Sustainer, forgive us and parden our sins.
    Archmage Atlantis: It is to be as it as to be
    Archmage Atlantis: Come now, it is done
    Fael Illyar: (Have fun puzzling this one out, Pema :)
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