2009.09.23 01:00 - Birth and Death

The Guardian for this meeting was Fael Illyar. The comments are by Fael Illyar.

Archmage Atlantis: The 2nd way is to go to shops here in SL
Archmage Atlantis: Hi, hone
Fael Illyar: Hello Love :)
WuuCkii Tigerauge: okay thanks
Fael Illyar: Hello WuuCkii :)
WuuCkii Tigerauge: hej
Archmage Atlantis: Fael knows a lot more than I do
Archmage Atlantis: Fael, Wuuckii asked about getting clothes here in SL withouth spending real $
Fael Illyar: I have packages I could give...
Archmage Atlantis: You know a lot more about shopping than I do
Fael Illyar: I have no idea what's in them but... maybe there's something you might like
Fael Illyar: and shops usually have freebies too.
Archmage Atlantis: How does he find shops?
Fael Illyar: Myself, I talked to people, went to see places they liked.
Fael Illyar: one thing that works, I hear is to see if people whose style you like have interesting looking shops in their picks
Fael Illyar: but that usually needs money but might get you nice freebies too
Archmage Atlantis: How did you wind up here Wuuchii, this isn't an easy sim to get to by accident
WuuCkii Tigerauge: thanks
Fael Illyar: those are boxed, you'll need to rez and open them before you can get them
Fael Illyar: and those two are not boxed, they should appear as folders in your inventory
Fael Illyar: That'll propably keep you busy for a while, to sort those out.
WuuCkii Tigerauge: thanks
Fael Illyar: then there's this.
Fael Illyar: lots of notecards about things in SL.
Archmage Atlantis: But, putting in a word for PaB, there are smart good ppl here
Fael Illyar: including ways to get money without exchanging it for real money
Fael Illyar: (mind you, SL money is just as real)
Archmage Atlantis: This meeting is generally more esoteric tho
Archmage Atlantis: Meaning of life and all that junk
WuuCkii Tigerauge: gtg sry bye bye
Archmage Atlantis: Blesssings Wuu

Fael Illyar: Have fun Wuu :)
Archmage Atlantis: Fael, is my time off, isn't it 30 min past meeting time?
Fael Illyar: It is :)
Archmage Atlantis: Are you able to be the guardian?, I am not
Fael Illyar: Well, I could yes.
Archmage Atlantis: ty
Archmage Atlantis: Now we shall listen to the bell
Fael Illyar: well, not time yet to close ther recording :)
Archmage Atlantis: I mean the 15 min bell, silly
Archmage Atlantis: Oops
Fael Illyar: (I sent you some IMs, off the record :P)
Archmage Atlantis: Okkk
Archmage Atlantis: Seems we expect ppl to come here and "know" certain things already
Fael Illyar: we do?
Archmage Atlantis: Are there no more teachers?....is self learning the entire new world?
Fael Illyar: lots of teachers at Buddha Center :P
Archmage Atlantis: Lots of opinions, I do not consider that teaching

Fael Illyar: opinion is rife, yes :)
Archmage Atlantis: Do you think a physical place is a repository of meaning, or is a "spritual" space stronger in that role
Fael Illyar: but nothing new in that, is there?
Archmage Atlantis: Beloved, for 60,000 yrs there has been nothing new
Archmage Atlantis: Yet we learn slowly
Fael Illyar: frankly, I'm not sure what you take to be the difference between physical and "spiritual".
Archmage Atlantis: I the purest form, both serve equally well
Archmage Atlantis: But most of the children are not ready for that understanding
Fael Illyar: I still do not understand what is the difference between this physical place and this "spiritual" space you compare.
Archmage Atlantis: You remember how Koya M got his name
Archmage Atlantis: Oh sorry, I got to a different space, hyperjumped?????
Fael Illyar: I do remember some of how Koya M got his name. Although, I'm not clear at all from where it came from :)
Archmage Atlantis: This forum, building, place in SL is as a RLplace to me
Archmage Atlantis: I understand it could disappear today
Archmage Atlantis: As did Alexandria Novus
Fael Illyar: yes... and yet it does not diminish it's importance.
Fael Illyar: if it did disappear, there could be a new place or perhaps a few of them.
Archmage Atlantis: When the day comes, it shalll disappear
Fael Illyar: yes, except from memories of those who've been here.
Archmage Atlantis: And you are correct, as a blossum opens, is pollunated, make seed to spread, and dies.....of such is this place
Archmage Atlantis: Extie and I would call it a Meme
Fael Illyar: maybe the first but certainly not the last...
Fael Illyar: and yes, Meme I agree with as the term :)
Fael Illyar: but it is already transforming, changing it's form...
Archmage Atlantis: Yes, it has been a hour and I am the only one here.....you came out of love, not committment

Fael Illyar: Yes, that is true.
Fael Illyar: Tomorrow, I come from commitment.
Archmage Atlantis: Then the time has come for this place to change
Fael Illyar: tomorrow is my weekly commitment.
Archmage Atlantis: The professors have their results, they can publish their papers, and feed grad students from the carcass
Fael Illyar: are you sure there is a carcass? perhaps it's simply an empty shell?
Fael Illyar: become useless and discarded
Archmage Atlantis: You separate the soul and the body of this place
Archmage Atlantis: Are you comfortable with that?
Fael Illyar: the body has never been meaningful for me...
Fael Illyar: ah, slight correction. The exact body has never been meaningful to me.
Fael Illyar: there will be others
Archmage Atlantis: I will give blessing tothis place, then let us go in memory
Archmage Atlantis: Our Creator, our Sustainer, we have no other but you Our Creator, our Sustainer, help us for your own sake Our Creator, our Sustainer, grant us a blessed New Year Our Creator, our Sustainer, annul all miscreant decrees against us Our Creator, our Sustainer, annul the plots of our enemies Our Creator, our Sustainer, rid us of tyrants Our Creator, our Sustainer, rid us of pestilence, sword, famine, captivity,and destruction Our Creator, our Sustainer, forgive us and parden our sins.
Archmage Atlantis: It is to be as it as to be
Archmage Atlantis: Come now, it is done
Fael Illyar: (Have fun puzzling this one out, Pema :)