2009.09.23 19:00 - yin/yang + me makes three

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    The Guardian for this meeting was stevenaia Michinaga. The comments are by stevenaia Michinaga.


    A short evening with  Paradise Tennant

    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: hiya steve :)
    Paradise Tennant: how are you :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am good
    stevenaia Michinaga: thanks, jsut got in
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: ready for tomarrow? I'll be around to assist you in posting the log
    Paradise Tennant: err no .. when I said I will take on Thurs .. it has to start in october ..i have an agm to attend tomorrow :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: ok, my misunderstanding
    stevenaia Michinaga: hello Pila
    Pila Mulligan: hi Paradise and Steve
    Paradise Tennant: I mentioned it twice to pema so I suspect he will have a sub :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: nods
    stevenaia Michinaga: october is almost here
    Pila Mulligan: they've started making delicious subs at the local store here
    stevenaia Michinaga: different kind of subs, Pila
    Pila Mulligan: yes, Pila was havig fun
    stevenaia Michinaga: laughs
    Paradise Tennant: :))
    Paradise Tennant: how are you pila :)
    Pila Mulligan: I'm fine thanks, and how are you (both:)?
    Paradise Tennant: very well drinking bergamot tea .. and winding down :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I am good, backk to weekly tai chi again
    Paradise Tennant: cool
    Pila Mulligan: nice
    Pila Mulligan: makes me think of chai tea
    stevenaia Michinaga: teacher took 15 minutes on one move a few of us were learing,
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Pila Mulligan: that is how teachers often do
    stevenaia Michinaga: learning, still wasn;t enought time
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Paradise Tennant: time and practise ..
    Pila Mulligan: yes, teach minute detail and then after learning forget it
    stevenaia Michinaga: talkes some time for it to become a habit, like meditation
    Pila Mulligan: yes, it does
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Paradise Tennant: what would we llike to talk about tonight ?
    stevenaia Michinaga: nudge
    Paradise Tennant: or did you come with a topic in mind steve :A)
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: brb, have to urge to practice that Tai Chi move
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Pila Mulligan: verse 48 of the Tao Te Ching:
    Pila Mulligan:
    In the pursuit of learning, every day something is acquired. In the pursuit of Tao, every day something is dropped. Less and less is done Until non-action is achieved. When nothing is done, nothing is left undone. The world is ruled by letting things take their course. It cannot be ruled by interfering.

    Paradise Tennant: thank you pila .. beautiful
    Paradise Tennant: i have been meditating on letting go
    Paradise Tennant: of late
    stevenaia Michinaga: nicely said
    Pila Mulligan: learning tai chi detail reminded me of it
    Pila Mulligan: then dropping it :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: of course my cat always gets involved with my feet
    Paradise Tennant: lol
    Pila Mulligan: the cat must be learning too, or maybe just playing
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: now I just learned how much I forgot
    Pila Mulligan: shall we watch your practice Steve?
    Pila Mulligan: or is it a bad time for an audience
    Pila Mulligan: at first ... trying to rememebr :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: don;t think we figured out how to fo group video yet
    stevenaia Michinaga: *do
    Pila Mulligan: ok
    Pila Mulligan: I always do it by myself, almost, and when people watch I sometimes get lost
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    stevenaia Michinaga: I find it best to watch yourdself (mirror or video)
    Pila Mulligan: yes, it helps
    Pila Mulligan: as long as you don't get lost in the watching :)
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Paradise Tennant: pila once explained .. an intriguing aspect of tai chi how it allows you balance external forces with internal forces ..
    Paradise Tennant: ....
    Pila Mulligan: balance being the big idea
    stevenaia Michinaga: seems there are amny kinds of balance
    Pila Mulligan: ....
    stevenaia Michinaga: many
    Paradise Tennant: yes
    Pila Mulligan: part of the balance is in using tai chi as a martial art
    stevenaia Michinaga: which is the naure of yin/yon
    Pila Mulligan: letting someone else's energy function as you would like it to
    Pila Mulligan: yin/yang :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: that too
    Paradise Tennant: :)
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Paradise Tennant: could be yon .. we don't know about :)
    Pila Mulligan: could be
    stevenaia Michinaga: teachers accent?
    Paradise Tennant: how to do you let someone's energy function as you would like
    Pila Mulligan: well, it is true that some mis-pronounce it like 'yankee'
    Pila Mulligan: it is yang link 'song'
    stevenaia Michinaga: simple version would be someone running toward you and step out of the way and trip them
    Pila Mulligan: or just step aside and let them keep going -- even more fun
    Paradise Tennant: never .. viewed tai chi as a martial art
    Pila Mulligan: it really isn't essentially, but it can be
    Pila Mulligan: those soft hands can be used to push away an intrusion
    Paradise Tennant: hmm because it puts you in such an advanced stage of a balance it allows you to unbalance an attacker?
    Pila Mulligan: or to stay where the aggression does not reach
    Pila Mulligan: better to be empty than push back
    Paradise Tennant: run between the rain drops
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Pila Mulligan: yes, exactly
    Paradise Tennant: use to try to do that as a kid
    Pila Mulligan: Steely Dan
    Pila Mulligan: or Donald Fagen at least
    Pila Mulligan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKmOI12oHqE
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Pila Mulligan: one of the most interesting phenonmena of this part of the practice is what I call shrinking
    Pila Mulligan: it is not explained easily in scientific terms, except maybe as an illusion of perspective
    Pila Mulligan: but it invovles shrinking in size as an aggression approaches
    stevenaia Michinaga: a psycologial tactic?
    Pila Mulligan: you might want to explain it that way, maybe it is -- when I first saw it I was befuddled
    Pila Mulligan: the teacher was doing some moves and then walked about ten feet further away and did the same ones
    Pila Mulligan: as he walked away his body shrank much more than you wold expect
    Pila Mulligan: so it looked like he was more than ten feet away
    Pila Mulligan: ... you get it eventually
    Pila Mulligan: it is not done conciously
    Paradise Tennant: blinks
    Pila Mulligan: :)
    Pila Mulligan: yep, blinks
    Pila Mulligan: this is why some people complain that when they try to spar with a tai chi master 'he is never there'
    Paradise Tennant: ;0
    Paradise Tennant: happily so
    Pila Mulligan: yes, much better tha getting all entangled in contention
    stevenaia Michinaga: the best fight is one to be avioded
    Pila Mulligan: yep
    Paradise Tennant: agree the more you push the more force you give your oponent it seems
    Pila Mulligan: it is true
    Pila Mulligan: secrets of tai chi night ... reminds me of another
    Pila Mulligan: when you touch someone there is an instant kinetic reaction on contact
    Pila Mulligan: so part of the practice is to be yielding when you are touched, to minimize that kinetic moment and, conversely, to be sensitive to the kinetic moment of an aggressor to redirect their momentum
    Paradise Tennant: hmm
    stevenaia Michinaga: I must leave early tonight, my apologies
    Paradise Tennant: no worries steve :))
    Pila Mulligan: nice to see you Steve
    Paradise Tennant: big wave from toronto :)
    stevenaia Michinaga: good seeing you both, wednesdays nights are becoming special
    Paradise Tennant: ;)
    Pila Mulligan: is there much new at your place Paradise
    Paradise Tennant: hmm lol
    Paradise Tennant: a little
    Paradise Tennant: would you like to see ?
    Pila Mulligan: sure
    Paradise Tennant: kk
    Seems they both left.... 
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